I lost! What's the deal?

NitroNixon · 01-14-2004, 01:28 PM

I lost to a 2003 GT from a 30mph roll. We race 4 times and lost by 1.5 car lengths each time. I went through all 5 gears also. I'm pretty sure the guys car was stock, because he had brand new temp tags on it.

My engine is completely stock now because I'm building my GT40 motor. But I still kept my off-road h-pipe, crane ignition, pulleys, and 373 gears.

Does anyone know the horsepower ratings for the new GT's. I didn't think he would be me that bad.

Stang_Crazy · 01-14-2004, 02:20 PM

'03 GT = 260 hp

I'm assuming it was a stick as well.

NitroNixon · 01-14-2004, 02:29 PM

Yep, it was. I was very unhappy with the results. Maybe it's my driving. I was shifting at 5200rpm.

jonnyk · 01-14-2004, 02:44 PM

Not likely. They're 13 second cars when driven right. I'd say the outcome was about what I expected...
Time for more mods

NitroNixon · 01-14-2004, 02:57 PM

Well, I've got my P heads waiting to be installled, now I'm looking for a nice cam and a good set of springs to go with it. Hopefully this will wake my motor up a bit.

Dark_5.0 · 01-14-2004, 03:41 PM

Ditch your crappy stock heads and you will 0wn the 99+ GT's.

Skyman · 01-14-2004, 06:20 PM

What were you doing racing in 5th gear with 3.73s?

NitroNixon · 01-15-2004, 08:17 AM

Oh! Sorry, I didn't make it to 5th, I had to slow down before then> LOL

T5superduty · 01-19-2004, 10:01 PM

brand new car is more horsepower of course will own an old 5.0 in anyway shape or form prolly even with a bad driver.

Dark_5.0 · 01-19-2004, 10:41 PM

5 speed notchbacks give 99+ GT's a run for there money stock vs stock.

Back in 99 I was spanking the new GT's in my 88GT vert with gears and bolt ons.

On the average though a 99+ GT will beat a slightly modded 5.0.

Ackbar00 · 01-20-2004, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dark_5.0
Ditch your crappy stock heads and you will 0wn the 99+ GT's.

"Im with stupid"

Skyman · 01-20-2004, 01:50 PM

Really depends, if your cars in top running shape you should hang.

Two of my friends one has a 03 GT, runs 14.1@99 w/ a x-pipe and cat back and pulleys.

Other buddy has a Stock 90LX, in a real good tune, driven well w/ 3.55's went 13.6@102.

go figure.

302 LX Eric · 01-20-2004, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skyman
Other buddy has a Stock 90LX, in a real good tune, driven well w/ 3.55's went 13.6@102.

go figure.

There's gotta be some more mods there than just 3.55s and 'a real good tune'.

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T5superduty · 01-20-2004, 06:39 PM

Ya it prolly had some slicks and something else for sure.

Skyman · 01-20-2004, 07:47 PM

Yeah no one believes it. The more stock parts he put back on the car the quicker it went. That was on ET STREETS.

420nitro · 01-20-2004, 10:55 PM

Hold up! When I had just 3.73 gears and a Flowmaster Cat back my car ran 14.0's all day long. (car had only 4,500 mile on it). This was back in the fall of 1992! (and no it wasn't 40 degrees either)
True my car as well as the other 87-93 Mustangs didn't make as much power as the new ones, but we didn't weigh as much as the newer Mustangs either!
I have a 92 notchback. My buddy had a Gt with simlar mods and went on average 2-3 tenthes slower.
By the way the car sat on stock Michlins 225/55/ZR16's.
14.05 @98 was the norm with a 2.0-2.1 60ft.
And yes the car went slower with new mods until I found slicks!

Then I broke into the 13's and I was hooked on speed from there out!
My 2 cents and true!

03stangGT · 01-23-2004, 09:25 PM

man I must suck at driving, I've got an 03 gt, I ran it with 3.73's pro50 and K&N, ( stupidly took out the quadshocks and have horrrrrrrrrible wheep hop) and the best I ran was a 14.4 at 99.3 mph, I know my trap speed was good for about 14.0, I've recently put on underdrive pulleys, t/a at 14 degrees, jd's performance upper/lower control arms, and steeda sport springs, does 14.0 sound reasonable?? This is also my first car/ 5spd, that I am paying for by myself! I'm also planning on spraying my car with a 100shot, high 12's sound reasonable with nitrous? thanks

03stangGT · 01-23-2004, 09:27 PM

oh yea how could I forget when I ran the car I also had 2 chamber flows, and an offroad H

Dark_5.0 · 01-24-2004, 08:21 AM

Sounds like the wheel hop and probably a crappy 60ft was killing your ET. Since you more than likely fixed your wheel hop problem with the control arms I would expect you to hit easy 13's with your current mods.

On the nitrous you should knock off about a second over what you run all motor.

Buy two junk rims and some slicks if you dont want any more dissapointing trips to the track.

01-14-2004, 01:28 PM	#1
NitroNixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DC Posts: 129	I lost! What's the deal? I lost to a 2003 GT from a 30mph roll. We race 4 times and lost by 1.5 car lengths each time. I went through all 5 gears also. I'm pretty sure the guys car was stock, because he had brand new temp tags on it. My engine is completely stock now because I'm building my GT40 motor. But I still kept my off-road h-pipe, crane ignition, pulleys, and 373 gears. Does anyone know the horsepower ratings for the new GT's. I didn't think he would be me that bad. __________________ 87 GT As of 2/1/06 650 DP Carb Crosswind Intake Edelbrock Performer Heads 97 Explorer Bottomend w/ B-303 Cam 1.7 Roller Rockers Flowtech Longtube Headers Flowtech H-Pipe MSD Black Wires MSD ignition MSD Distributor Blaster 3 Coil Electric Fan Underdrive Pullies T5 Trans Hurst Shifter Lowered 1.5" 373 Gears

01-14-2004, 02:20 PM	#2
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	'03 GT = 260 hp I'm assuming it was a stick as well. __________________ ~Dan 2001 SVT Lightning 89' GT : Taking up garage space and waiting for a buyer... Rice Hater's Club - Member #11

01-14-2004, 02:29 PM	#3
NitroNixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DC Posts: 129	Yep, it was. I was very unhappy with the results. Maybe it's my driving. I was shifting at 5200rpm. __________________ 87 GT As of 2/1/06 650 DP Carb Crosswind Intake Edelbrock Performer Heads 97 Explorer Bottomend w/ B-303 Cam 1.7 Roller Rockers Flowtech Longtube Headers Flowtech H-Pipe MSD Black Wires MSD ignition MSD Distributor Blaster 3 Coil Electric Fan Underdrive Pullies T5 Trans Hurst Shifter Lowered 1.5" 373 Gears

01-14-2004, 02:44 PM	#4
jonnyk Being stroked is great Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 772	Not likely. They're 13 second cars when driven right. I'd say the outcome was about what I expected... Time for more mods __________________ Novi 2000 now spinning off the snout of the 331... Mods Pics

01-14-2004, 02:57 PM	#5
NitroNixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DC Posts: 129	Well, I've got my P heads waiting to be installled, now I'm looking for a nice cam and a good set of springs to go with it. Hopefully this will wake my motor up a bit. __________________ 87 GT As of 2/1/06 650 DP Carb Crosswind Intake Edelbrock Performer Heads 97 Explorer Bottomend w/ B-303 Cam 1.7 Roller Rockers Flowtech Longtube Headers Flowtech H-Pipe MSD Black Wires MSD ignition MSD Distributor Blaster 3 Coil Electric Fan Underdrive Pullies T5 Trans Hurst Shifter Lowered 1.5" 373 Gears

01-14-2004, 03:41 PM	#6
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Ditch your crappy stock heads and you will 0wn the 99+ GT's. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-14-2004, 06:20 PM	#7
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	What were you doing racing in 5th gear with 3.73s? __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

01-15-2004, 08:17 AM	#8
NitroNixon Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: DC Posts: 129	Oh! Sorry, I didn't make it to 5th, I had to slow down before then> LOL __________________ 87 GT As of 2/1/06 650 DP Carb Crosswind Intake Edelbrock Performer Heads 97 Explorer Bottomend w/ B-303 Cam 1.7 Roller Rockers Flowtech Longtube Headers Flowtech H-Pipe MSD Black Wires MSD ignition MSD Distributor Blaster 3 Coil Electric Fan Underdrive Pullies T5 Trans Hurst Shifter Lowered 1.5" 373 Gears

01-19-2004, 10:01 PM	#9
T5superduty Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 114	brand new car is more horsepower of course will own an old 5.0 in anyway shape or form prolly even with a bad driver. __________________ Gt40 X heads,B-303 Cam, Cobra 1.7 Roller Rockers, Edelbrock Victor water pump, 3 Core Radiator, Edelbrock RPM "Air Gap"intake, Road Demon 625 cfm carb, Hooker Super competition Headers, offroad H pipe, T5

01-19-2004, 10:41 PM	#10
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	5 speed notchbacks give 99+ GT's a run for there money stock vs stock. Back in 99 I was spanking the new GT's in my 88GT vert with gears and bolt ons. On the average though a 99+ GT will beat a slightly modded 5.0. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

01-20-2004, 01:50 PM	#12
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Really depends, if your cars in top running shape you should hang. Two of my friends one has a 03 GT, runs 14.1@99 w/ a x-pipe and cat back and pulleys. Other buddy has a Stock 90LX, in a real good tune, driven well w/ 3.55's went 13.6@102. go figure. __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

01-20-2004, 06:39 PM	#14
T5superduty Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 114	Ya it prolly had some slicks and something else for sure. __________________ Gt40 X heads,B-303 Cam, Cobra 1.7 Roller Rockers, Edelbrock Victor water pump, 3 Core Radiator, Edelbrock RPM "Air Gap"intake, Road Demon 625 cfm carb, Hooker Super competition Headers, offroad H pipe, T5

01-20-2004, 07:47 PM	#15
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Yeah no one believes it. The more stock parts he put back on the car the quicker it went. That was on ET STREETS. __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

01-20-2004, 10:55 PM	#16
420nitro Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rockford Posts: 596	Hold up! When I had just 3.73 gears and a Flowmaster Cat back my car ran 14.0's all day long. (car had only 4,500 mile on it). This was back in the fall of 1992! (and no it wasn't 40 degrees either) True my car as well as the other 87-93 Mustangs didn't make as much power as the new ones, but we didn't weigh as much as the newer Mustangs either! I have a 92 notchback. My buddy had a Gt with simlar mods and went on average 2-3 tenthes slower. By the way the car sat on stock Michlins 225/55/ZR16's. 14.05 @98 was the norm with a 2.0-2.1 60ft. And yes the car went slower with new mods until I found slicks! Then I broke into the 13's and I was hooked on speed from there out! My 2 cents and true!

01-23-2004, 09:25 PM	#17
03stangGT Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Massachusettes Posts: 26	man I must suck at driving, I've got an 03 gt, I ran it with 3.73's pro50 and K&N, ( stupidly took out the quadshocks and have horrrrrrrrrible wheep hop) and the best I ran was a 14.4 at 99.3 mph, I know my trap speed was good for about 14.0, I've recently put on underdrive pulleys, t/a at 14 degrees, jd's performance upper/lower control arms, and steeda sport springs, does 14.0 sound reasonable?? This is also my first car/ 5spd, that I am paying for by myself! I'm also planning on spraying my car with a 100shot, high 12's sound reasonable with nitrous? thanks

01-23-2004, 09:27 PM	#18
03stangGT Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Massachusettes Posts: 26	oh yea how could I forget when I ran the car I also had 2 chamber flows, and an offroad H

01-24-2004, 08:21 AM	#19
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Sounds like the wheel hop and probably a crappy 60ft was killing your ET. Since you more than likely fixed your wheel hop problem with the control arms I would expect you to hit easy 13's with your current mods. On the nitrous you should knock off about a second over what you run all motor. Buy two junk rims and some slicks if you dont want any more dissapointing trips to the track. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

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