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90dpscoupe 01-09-2001 02:35 AM

What! thats a retarded curve, i hope i dont ever use any dynos like that. Im still not reading it right then

302 LX Eric 01-09-2001 08:54 AM

That's odd, my dyno sheet looks nothing like the one pictured above. Why are the scales not equal? Why is the "curve" not a curve? And what's up with all the spikes?

Lets see, I have 289 RWHP & 312 RWTQ so I guess my Stang would be running low 12's and 110+ mph if I could just figure out how to drop say...1000 lbs!!! http://www.mustangworks.com/interact...rd/biggrin.gif

Later, E

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1991 5.0 LX Coupe -37,800 miles

13.17 @ 106.14 mph w/ 2.138 60'

Pro-Charger D-1SC on the way!!!

Try Me 01-09-2001 12:39 PM

That's weak man!
Also, whenever i pull up on suspension-less econo car like the black one you posted, i have no choice but to offer them a srewdriver and wood screws.. he'll need these to fasten the doors back on after i blow them off at the next stop light!!!

Furthermore, doesn anyone have any proof that fart cans make more power asides from lot's of noise?
"George Foreman rice cooker - attaches to your exhaust for annoying bumble bee effect - can be heard within 3 square miles"

I think the LIZARD KING should say something here.

Guffinator 01-09-2001 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Try Me:
doesn anyone have any proof that fart cans make more power asides from lot's of noise?
"George Foreman rice cooker - attaches to your exhaust for annoying bumble bee effect - can be heard within 3 square miles"

I think the LIZARD KING should say something here.

I'd like to know that myself. I'd bet that those annoying fart pipes don't help much at all if any. If I had an import I would PURPOSELY stay away from one of those.



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89 GT 5.0

Big hit of NITROUS!!

NoSlow5.0 01-09-2001 02:12 PM

I think it's the funiest damm thing how we you guys took over tangy stangy's post and booted him out. Like going to a party and kicking the host out of his own house http://www.mustangworks.com/interact...rd/biggrin.gif I also think that dyno looks really fuced up, all the peaks and sh1t. BTW: if these cars are really running those times, how can a stock trans in am import hold up to that kind of power? Serious question, i really would like to know Light Em Up!!! http://www.mustangworks.com/interact...oard/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by NoSlow5.0 (edited 01-09-2001).]

88GT5.013.02 01-09-2001 02:46 PM

Their transmissions don't hold up that well. They are supposed to but they don't. My buddy has a Honda CRX that I put a turbo on (non v-tec) (T03/04 hybrid). He spent lots o' money on the shortblock to handle 20+ lbs of boost. He was only running 10lbs of boost (@190-200 at the wheels) and blew his trans. I have yet to take a hell run yet, but when I do I'll let you know. BTW he said I could drive it with full 20+ lbs of boost.

[This message has been edited by 88GT5.013.02 (edited 01-09-2001).]

Try Me 01-09-2001 04:12 PM

My chum had a newer 4WD Turbo Talon.
In three years i'm told he went through 3 tranny's.

It's like... only drive it hard twice a year, or else the driveline grenades.

As for the 'Stang... i wonder how many hundreds of thousands of launches, burnouts, doughnuts and powershifts it would take to acheive a driveline failure.


IRACERICE 01-09-2001 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by NoSlow5.0:
BTW: if these cars are really running those times, how can a stock trans in am import hold up to that kind of power? Serious question, i really would like to know Light Em Up!!! http://www.mustangworks.com/interact...oard/smile.gif



To answer your question. The B-series (i.e. DOHC)transmissions hold up very well. The 8 sec honda people were referring to before utilizes a honda 5 speed transmission as well as all other honda powered fast race cars out there. My trannies in my cars have take 6000+ rpm launches (7000 in the crx) on slicks every weekend during the race season and they are still good. Keep in mind that the trannies i use in the crx are 10 years old, In my del sol I replaced the diff with a lsd. Seems like my friends in the 14 and 13 second mustangs have more tranny problems than I do in my 12 second cars, and they run street tires. So actually the trannies are pretty strong and can handle alot of power. One serious question from me. How many 5 speed, clutch powered mustangs are there out there than run 8s and 9s. Just would like to know. BTW is that civic hatch a stock motor or built?

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93 del sol 12.14 @ 115.8 (retired)
on order: 2001 Spa yellow S2000
still have: 91 crx 12.49 @ 108 mph

MercDude 01-09-2001 05:38 PM

I don't know about anyone else in this club, but how come i've killed 2 hondas that look exactly like that black one? they were lowered with big wheels and tires... although one gave me a run for my money (cause screwed up shifting auto :|) I really like how those cars look, but i don't like any type of imports... most of the stuff is cheap as$ sh!t... yeah the engines last a long time, but it's all about what the engine is designed for. I know of plenty of guys who are running their 5.0 V8's with 200K miles on it and it still doesn't smoke or use oil! Dependable vs. speed... what do you want? economy = dependability... you do the math! why do you think hondas suck at street racing, but they are said to be very dependable? It's all about DESIGN!!

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'63 Merc Meteor hardtop, warm 302, C4 auto, 2.25" Flowmaster Exhaust,
'65 289 heads - ported/chevy valves, performer cam, edelbrock f4a intake, full length hookers, 600 holley, roller rockers, k'n, 10.5:1 hyperutetic pistons... mid 13's hoping to reach into 12's

95mustanggt 01-09-2001 06:10 PM

I was at a buddies shop (for oil patch trucks) I was helping my buddy fix his brakes and one of his co-workers was in there with a 2 year old TSi AWD Talon. It was a nice looking car, but he was changing out his 2nd clutch and 1st transmission. I've had my car for 2 years and drive it hard and yet my tranny and clutch are fine.

I'm not an import hater or anything, but I've heard this story one too many times to believe that some of these cars are able to hang out with mustangs, LS1, Corvettes etc, etc. I'm not saying imports can't hold up, but some of the lower cost imports that everyone thinks are so great have not faired so well. Just my experience.

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White 1995 Mustang GT
Dynomax Cat-Back, Offroad H-pipe, K&N Filters w/o Air Silencer
My 1995 Mustang GT
http://members.mustangworks.com/95mu...must-white.jpg

97snakedriver 01-09-2001 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IRACERICE:

To answer your question. The B-series (i.e. DOHC)transmissions hold up very well. The 8 sec honda people were referring to before utilizes a honda 5 speed transmission as well as all other honda powered fast race cars out there. My trannies in my cars have take 6000+ rpm launches (7000 in the crx) on slicks every weekend during the race season and they are still good. Keep in mind that the trannies i use in the crx are 10 years old, In my del sol I replaced the diff with a lsd. Seems like my friends in the 14 and 13 second mustangs have more tranny problems than I do in my 12 second cars, and they run street tires. So actually the trannies are pretty strong and can handle alot of power. One serious question from me. How many 5 speed, clutch powered mustangs are there out there than run 8s and 9s. Just would like to know. BTW is that civic hatch a stock motor or built?


Not too many. When most people get serious enough to build a 8 second or faster Mustang they usually switch to an auto for consistancy, and between Ford and GM, there are seriously beefy autos you can get pretty cheap, C4, C6, ect.

But how many 8 second, street car (stock unibody, not tube body) based, Hondas are there exactly? I have some friends that are seriously into this, and I seem to remember a NSX in the 7s, and the record for a "Civic" somewhere in the very high 8s. (???)

BTW, any insite on why modified Hondas tend to dyno so "crazily"?

IRACERICE 01-10-2001 01:19 PM

Honestly there are no stock unibody hondas in the 8s. The fastest unibody in the world is lisa kubo at 9.21 @ 158 (or 159)- all turbo on regular race gas..i.e. not alcohol. The fastest unibody Quick class car is a AWD talon that runs NOS too at 9.1X (sean Glazer). The 8.71 FWD honda is full tube frameand hits traps in excess of 167 mph... I understand that it is easy and more consistent to run auto, I just wondered if anyone was stupid enough to use a 5 speed trans. Unfortunately, Honda people have no choice right now.

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93 del sol 12.14 @ 115.8 (retired)
on order: 2001 White S2000
still have: 91 crx 12.46 @ 108.5 mph


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