IMPORTS??!!???!!??

[tangystangy]

hello, i have a question, why am i getting beat by these acura integras?? my car is a 97 v-6 stock engine(manual), my friend has an integra(manual) and we wanted to race for fun, he beat me!! his car is a 4 cylinder and its stock as well, is this supposed to happen??? what kinda numbers do those things put up?? thanks

[cobrayankee]

Unfortunately, yes it is supposed to happen. They have 160hp in the GSR. (I think I'm right) Your car is a lot heavier too. Unfortunately your model year and engine were severely under powered. Nothing at all compared to the 99 v-6 Stangs. Fortunately there are quite a few accessories and bolt ons now available for your car. So check them out and get back to your buddy later on. Good luck!

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1997 Cobra (Black on black), C+L 80mm MAF, K+N filter, Pro 5.0 shifter, BBK Springs, Taylor Wires, 2 Chamber Flows, ASP Pulleys, BBK off road H pipe.

[AB89GT]

I'm sorry to say, but I have personally witnessed a 98 dodge caravan hold dead even with a 2000 mustang v6. It was two of my buddies that were racing. This is not a cut on your car but Im just telling you what I saw. His stang was also an auto.

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89 black GT, 5 spd
air silencer removed
flowmaster cat-back + h-pipe
FMS 9mm wires
looking to modify more!!!



[This message has been edited by AB89GT (edited 12-29-2000).]

V6 stangs are good drivers, but if you want to race, you need the V8.

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67 Fastback - Arctic White Pearl paint
351W 415 hp, Trick Flow Alum. Heads, C-4 Trans, 3.55 gears, Front Disc Brakes, 1-1/8" Fr. 3/4" rear sway bars.

[SMOKE]

Painful but true.

Like cobrayankee said there are som mods for your V6 I/H package just came out and slap on Vortech almost 300 rwhp.

That would make for an interesting rematch.

[smithbling]

Sorry "TANGY STANGY" but your coming across this board with your first message as a "Getting Killed" story. Sounds like you own an Integra and wanted to just cut up the V6 Stangs. They put up shitty numbers, the GSR is 170 HP and like 117 lbs/ft of torque and stock runs very low 16's maybe high 15's. HA

In saying that "Get the ****** off this board". Quit wasting our time!

[FivepointOH]

There is a new intake/head package out for v6's that I saw in a magazine(think it was 5.0) that supposedly puts the car at 225 at the wheels(or maybe it was flywheel) which is the same as a older GT and I think the v6's are faster too... throw one of those vortech's on top of that and you could be winning lots of money off mustang and camaro owners.

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92 AOD GT, K&N, ram air, pulleys, 2 ch. flowmasters, 4:10's, shift kit, 1 5/8 mac longtubes and offroad hpipe 14.249 @ 97.34 mph before the headers and hpipe

[Special K]

Originally posted by smithbling:
Sorry "TANGY STANGY" but your coming across this board with your first message as a "Getting Killed" story. Sounds like you own an Integra and wanted to just cut up the V6 Stangs. They put up shitty numbers, the GSR is 170 HP and like 117 lbs/ft of torque and stock runs very low 16's maybe high 15's. HA

In saying that "Get the ****** off this board". Quit wasting our time!

I agree that this guy is probably an integra owner who want to start something but your 1/4 times for GSR are just plain wrong man... If I run 15.368 with an SI(R) I cant see why a GSR couldnt do the same or better... beside I have a friend who is runnin 14.29 with only Cold Air Intake, Header, Catback, and a few other bolton and thats on stock tires soo 16s is not right man...

peace!

[smithbling]

Special K:

Didn't SCC just do a test on a Civic and Integra stock then supercharged?

The Integra ran like 15.7 with an intake or something. Then supercharged it ran a 15.0.

Sorry if I got the numbers wrong but, that's what I recall the mag. saying.

I don't have the article with me but the 2 things that could be different are

1)That the test used an 140HP LS Integra. However, I am sure they used the 170HP GSR.

2) The SCC drivers suck but the MPH's suggest good driving. (89 mph stock and 94 supercharged?)

Peace.

[tangystangy]

umm sorry guys, why am i getting flamed??? i just wanted to know if it was my driving that caused me to lose. I am not into street racing! but i thought a v-6 should always beat a v-4?? but i guess i will not bother to post on a board where i am not welcome , thanks to you guys who actually gave me some answers

[smithbling]

I'm Sorry. LOL

V-4 okay play dumb.

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C ME FLY

88 coupe
14.75 @ 98 mph
Traction Limited

[FivepointOH]

Hmm sorry but I have to agree with smithbling, unless you guys are talking about the Integra type R, my friend has a stock GS-R and we raced and it wasn't even funny. A mid 15 at best but more like high 15. I can't see one running a low 14 with a few boltons, maybe a low 15 or high 14. Isn't your civic a lot lighter than the Integra too?

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92 AOD GT, K&N, ram air, pulleys, 2 ch. flowmasters, 4:10's, shift kit, 1 5/8 mac longtubes and offroad hpipe 14.249 @ 97.34 mph before the headers and hpipe

[Special K]

Originally posted by smithbling:
Special K:

Didn't SCC just do a test on a Civic and Integra stock then supercharged?

The Integra ran like 15.7 with an intake or something. Then supercharged it ran a 15.0.

Sorry if I got the numbers wrong but, that's what I recall the mag. saying.

I don't have the article with me but the 2 things that could be different are

1)That the test used an 140HP LS Integra. However, I am sure they used the 170HP GSR.

2) The SCC drivers suck but the MPH's suggest good driving. (89 mph stock and 94 supercharged?)

Peace.

I saw that article too... but I try not to quote magasine times because they suck at driving... in the same mag there is a turbo hatch with a B20 anyway they did 13.3s I think (SCC) and the owner got a best of 12.7 if I recall correctly... anyway im just telling what I saw with my own eyes... its like S2000 most domestic owners are quoting the 15.1s C&D did at the first test drive... while im quoting the 13.84 my friend did with his stock S2000.... with Civic SI (R) C&D did 15.7 and SCC 15.9 ... while I did 15.368 my second time at the track... so I don know what to say man...

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And my R.I.P. stang

[Special K]

Originally posted by FivepointOH:
Hmm sorry but I have to agree with smithbling, unless you guys are talking about the Integra type R, my friend has a stock GS-R and we raced and it wasn't even funny. A mid 15 at best but more like high 15. I can't see one running a low 14 with a few boltons, maybe a low 15 or high 14. Isn't your civic a lot lighter than the Integra too?

Im not trying to get into an argument My car weight about 2600lbs while a GSR is about 2675lbs ... I know not every cars or drivers can get those times... like I said once... the night I did my 15.368 with my stock SI(R) I saw 2 other car like mine with I/H/E in the high 15s soo... the best mod you an have for your car is a good driver... and yes my friend Martin is running 14.29 with his 1995 GSR with I/H/E, Cams sprocket and V-AFC... thats on street tires and he is gettinf constant 2.1** 60' at the beginning of the summer he had the same mods and was running 14.79 ... he just improved his driving skils!

Peace,

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And my R.I.P. stang

[fastang]

The last time I was at pomona I saw a GSR with an air intake setup and a full exhaust run 16.1-16.0 all day, he never hit a 15 anything. The fastest stock GSR is around a 15.7 with a great driver. This is also true for 99-01 mustangs though. Most of them hit 14.3-14-2 stock but someone here supposedly hit a 13.68 with one. Go figure.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, K&N, off road pipes, ADS chip, pulleys, msd coil,9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

[smithbling]

AHH WELL BOYS....

Let's just drop it and believe whatever we want! No need to get the boys fighting eachother.

I still say bash TangyStangy though!!

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C ME FLY

88 coupe
14.75 @ 98 mph
Traction Limited

[Guffinator]

Funny...I've seen numerous ones at the strip and the best I've seen so far had the basic mods and he was hitting 15.0's PRAYING to break into the 14's. Special K...you keep saying that we are all off on our times. But this is what I've seen from SEVERAL different cars. Guess maybe NONE of those guys could drive huh?

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89 GT 5.0

Big hit of NITROUS!!

[Unit 5302]

I've already said that I think Special K has the quickest stock Si in the universe.

As far as flaming TangyStangy, why?

Most people don't know the V-6 stangs only had a 3.8L OHV 140hp motor. The Integra GSR is a quick little rice machine for what it is, and I'd be suprised if they aren't low-mid 15 sec cars.

Actually you'd never imagine how many times I've heard people quoting V-4, it's not obviously, it's an I-4 but who cares. Correct him and give him the benefit of the doubt. Jeez... If he's over here trying to rip on the base Mustang that costs a few grand less than an Integra, then he's just been smoked by way too many V-8's.

[Guffinator]

Well I hang out over at ClubSi sometimes. I also know quite a few ricers in the local area. NONE of them can run the times that Special K claims. Even over at ClubSi most of the Type R guys claim 15's....and EVERY evaluation I've read in any mag on the Type R claims they run high 15's to 16's. Now granted a 16 is a terribley slow time and I have no doubt that they run better times. But I think a low 15 is a fairly average time for one.

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89 GT 5.0

Big hit of NITROUS!!

[Lizard King]

Here is the big problem with these imports.

Well actually it's a quantity of issues.

4 cylinders, little wheels, front wheel drive.

FRONT WHEEL DRIVE... right there you are F**C UP... you almost need a miracle to go to 11s.

How many Stang do you see in the 11s???

Why do you want to upgrade a four cylinder engine anyways. Don't give me that full economie thing... I used to own a Turbo Talon TSI... and that 4 cylinder was as hard as my GT00 on gas.

I think imports are GREAT!... winter beaters that is.

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Lizard King - 00GT
>> 13.698 @ 101.2MPH - BONE STOCK, yes BONE(even air filter) stock.

"I can do anything, I'm the Lizard King." - The Doors