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Lost AGAIN!
FUUUUUUUUUUCK!! I cant beat this guy! I work for a dealer and I sold my friend a 94 LT1 camaro a while ago. I drove it and found that it was incredibly fast for a stocker. So I called him up and he bought it. Its a ******* auto too. He went to Pomona totaly stock and hit a 14.2 even when he screwed up the 2-3 shift. Dont ask me how you screw up manualy shifting an auto but he did. Since then he has added a cat back only. He still pulls me in 3rd! http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/mad.gif If I get a really good launch I can take him and he wont reel me in. But most of the time I spin and he beats me by about half a car, and every time we race from a roll he slowly pulls me in third. Im seriously pissed. If these heads an intake dont put me into the low 13's Im taking a sledgehammer to my motor.
------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors [This message has been edited by fastang (edited 07-24-2001).] |
The heads and intake will definitely help and your friend's LT1 will be about two to three cars behind you the next time around.
Do you use synthetics in your car? I bet if you added amsoil to your trans and rear and ran Valvoline durablend in the engine you'd have that guy beat already. Just a thought! http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif What kind of a H or X pipe are you running? Kick some a$$ ------------------ formerly 96cobra89lx306 (96Cobra/softtop-3.73,almdrvsht,fancontrl,steeda sbfrmes+shifter,eibachspgs,KYB's,FR-upper arms,Saleen copy-polished 18's,pulleys,Bassani X pipe(gutted),C&L 80mm Cobra DYNO 301rwhp horsepower before gutting the X pipe 93 Ford Probe Gt(slower but turns) |
I use Mobil 1 synthetic oil in my engine and GM synchromesh in my trans. Thats what Tremec said to use. I hope these heads help a lot since I already have everything needed to make them efficient like a good exhaust, injectors, induction, and gears.
------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors |
you will blow him away once you install a good set of heads. Your whole combo is screamin' at you for them!
BTW, Some stock cars just run really well. A friend who usually races sportbike took his daily driver TOTALLY stock, down to the paper air filter 94 auto Z28 with 2.73 gears to the track. He was in the high 13's all day with a best of 13.8 @ 100. That is damn quick! ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT 11.8 @ 123 (7/14/01) 1992 BadAzz Wrangler 1993 Explorer |
Yeah, I really think that this cam is too large for unported heads because it falls off up top. Low end torque on my car is great but up top it lags.
Im pretty sure that he could have hit a 14 flat stock. I cant beat him unless I get a perfect launch on my DR's. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors |
If you had the exhaust side ported you would see that cam work some top end magic. I love that B303. I had it set up with ported and milled truck 302 heads for awhile but with your TF heads you might even do better with a more radical cam once you get it all dialed in.
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One of my friends ha a 93 z28 and he ran 14.1 stock so don't get mad yet you'll kill him here shortly
------------------ P.M.D. PERFORMANCE 88GT 306ci |
you will definently take him with heads, and if you do heads and intake.....he's one dead mutha. what heads are you puttin in?
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Once you get those heads, buddy will be no competition! That's what's great about our cars, you can always make them faster http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/wink.gif
------------------ 1995 Mustang GT |
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------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors |
So he has a quick stock LT1. Your motor combo is going to be similar to mine. So lemme remind you of a race I had with a 93 Auto LT1 a while back.
His car has a cage, stall, 3.73s, full exhaust, and throttle body. its a Brand new LT1. I raced him on street tires. He pulled me out of the hole sooo bad. By 2nd gear he had about 3-4 car lengths on me. and I was still roasting them bad through 2nd gear. (I mean fishtailing and smoking). I finally hit 3rd behing a full 4 car lengths back and caught traction. I was still worried I wouldnt catch him. I was pulling hard in 3rd. I powershiftd 4th and was at his back bumper. I held it through 4th pulled right past him and put about 2.5 car lengths on him to the end. He was shocked afterwards. He said "I thought I smoked you then I look by my window and you fly by like I'm sitting still! So don't worry... LT1's wont be a problem soon. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20. 12.54@107.4 Motor 1.69 60' |
Yup, the heads will put you past him, no doubt,......do the intake too, for extra measure http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif.
------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; Cervini's 3" turbo hood; A/C-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats; FMS 30# injectors; JMS chip; Holley 190lb fp; TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113 - 1.78 60') |
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------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors |
Let me tell you, I am going to keep posted to this topic, for I have been in a similair situation! We have a somewhat close setup besides weight, cam, etc. But I am waiting for some aluminum GT-40Y heads as we speak to arrive at my door. I was beaten pretty badly from a kid in a 97 z28 with an auto not too long ago and he is supposedly stock. He is a cocky lil f&*@#er and worst of all, he was doing my ex girl for a while, so this is all like a testosterone test to him. A test I want to win.. Since then he too has installed a cat-back which doesnt worry me much. I have only raced this guy from 2nd to 4th so I can prolly beat him from a start since he "needs" to win. People this anxious always screw up, I'm sure everyone here knows what I mean. But yes, I'm sure you'll beat him. In fact you have a better chance of beating him than me beating this other guy over here, but remember, yes we can make our cars faster. But so can he.
------------------ 94' Stang GT Convertible --Cobra upper&lower, Mac cold air w/K&N, BBK equal length shorties, BBK offroad H-pipe, American Thunder cat-back, BBK T/B 65mm, 24lb injectors, Pro-77mm MAM, pulleys, aluminum driveshaft, 3.55s 14.4@100. (Sad, i know. i have stock heads) |
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I went to buy my heads today and my mastercard/debit wouldnt work!!! It has a 750 per day limit that I wasnt aware of. Im so damn mad! Now I have to go to the bank tommorow and withdraw all this cash and the drive all the way back to the damn shop. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors |
The B cam and 1.7's add up to a big cam. You've got .514 lift and 224* of duration. I don't care how wigged the stock heads are, they will never show the potential in that cam setup.
I hate to say this, but I didn't see you listing an intake, the stocker is going to restrict the hell out of you still. If you don't have one, pick up an Explorer intake for a couple hundred on Ebay. You will annihilate him once you add that. I'm talking not even funny. "Pick your mph!" LOL |
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No I dont have an itake yet. Im going back to pick up the heads, bolts, rockers, and pushrods today. I'll have to wait untill late next month for the intake and gaskets. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors |
Credit cards :-D http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif
------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20. 12.54@107.4 Motor 1.69 60' |
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Sky, I heard that you are selling your intake, what kind are you getting next? ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors |
I GOT EM!! DAMN theyre beautiful. The ports and valves are ****** HUGE!
------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors |
Theres a couple small imperfections in the end of two exhaust ports. Looks like I'm going to have to touch em up with the dremel. Its a tiny bump right at the end where the header mounts up. Other than that theyre immaculate.
------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors |
One thing to remember about ours cars is the computer sucks. Even after you install your intake and heads, the car may not run good. It may even run a bit worse, like mine did, after I installed my GT-40Y heads. Your car will need tuning, be it a dyno-tune with custom chip or some other custom tuning device. My car stuttered and hesitated during acceleration on a regular basis. Unfortunetly I never had the car dyno-tuned in its naturally aspirated form so I can't say what my numbers were. However, if you check the readers rides on this site and look under 94-98 conv., a guy by the name of fweathers has an excellent write-up on his GT-40 set-up and his gains from his dyno-tune/custom chip. He went from like 255/290 to 270/305 at the wheels with his tune. I really recommend it, very good info and reading. Good luck.
------------------ FMS/Powerdyne 6psi SC, 73mm maf, 65mm TB, Cobra u/l intake, 24lb inj, 1.7" rockers, GT-40Y aluminum heads, Steeda #19 cam, MAC 1 5/8" long-tubes, MAC 2 1/2" pro-chamber, Dynomax Super Turbo mufflers, MAC 2 1/2" chromed exhaust, BBK 255lph fuel pump, FMS aluminum drive shaft, FMS 3.55 gears, and custom chip dyno-tuned by Swanson Performance. 391.0rwhp/377.5 rwtq SAE corrected |
Yeah Feweather has a ncie Vert he used to goto pomona. Havn't seen him on the site in a while. Definatly get that ***** dyno tuned.
Im thinking about selling my intake for a Track heat or Street Heat. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS TW Heads, E-303, Edelbrock intake, 70mm TB, 73mm MAF, 24lb injectors, 1 5/8 shorties, Off Road H, 3 Chamber flows, Jaz Race seats, Back seat removed, sub-frames, Roll Cage, and a 80 shot of N20. 12.54@107.4 Motor 1.69 60' |
So fairweather was only putting down 255 rwhp after his heads and intake? I put down 230 rwhp and 299 rwt a few months ago with a bad MAF sensor. Im sure its doing better now.
Im really hoping to break 300 rwhp before the dyno tune. I think Sky is putting down nearly 340 rwhp with a smog cam and shorties. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors |
I thought that the only prob with 94-95 cpus was that they pulled timing out of automatics for softer shifts. Am I wrong? What else is wrong with them?
------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors |
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