Mustang Averages at track?????

Lazer50 · 07-24-2004, 10:48 AM

Last night i went to the track, and there seemed to be an unusual amount of newer mustangs, and none of them were running that great (13-14's) and when i looked around most of them were bolt on cars, but i did think the newer mustangs were faster than that w/blot ons, anyone have some input if they see a lot of this at track?

Steven

PS I also ran the best ever in my truck, with a still traction limited take off in second (See Sig)

tireburner163 · 07-24-2004, 12:15 PM

It's hard to hook a car on 17" street tires.

-Josh, aka the tireburner

Skyman · 07-24-2004, 07:54 PM

Greatly depends on the driver and tire. Most drivers cant get a new GT outta the 14's on stock tires, its very hard. With boltons and tires they are 13-12 cars.

1989GT · 07-25-2004, 12:27 PM

A guy I work with has an '03 GT, with bolt-on's, slicks and suspension it has run a best of 12.5 can't remember the MPH. He's a hell of a driver though.
-Ryan

Rev · 07-25-2004, 04:10 PM

A stock '03 Mach 1 that I lined up against at the track ran a 13.50. I got him by a few lengths mostly because I got him out of the hole.

Rev

Lazer50 · 07-26-2004, 01:15 AM

I don't know, maybe its just these valley guys can't build a car or something, the only mustangs i see are either in the 14's or 12's (Nitroused Notch) so far i havn't lost to a mustang but its probally been luck

anyway, thanks for the replys

Steven

PS Josh- im taking off in second gear on street tires so i think that takes away any advantage 17" street tire car has

302 LX Eric · 07-27-2004, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lazer50
PS Josh- im taking off in second gear on street tires so i think that takes away any advantage 17" street tire car has

You're kidding, right?

jonnyk · 07-27-2004, 07:41 PM

17" street tires are an advantage?

Dark_5.0 · 07-28-2004, 12:37 PM

When I had my 01 cobra I pulled 2.1 60 fts all day with the 17 inch tires and an IRS rear.

Keep in mind the air can get as bad as 4800ft here but the best I have seen is a 14.49 out of a stock 99+GT wich would be a high 13 at sea level.

69fastback · 07-29-2004, 02:24 PM

Most of the tracks in Califronia are alot slower than what you would see back east by 4-5 tenths. The only fast track in southern cal is Pomona wich you can't get on unless it is NHRA or super chevy.

SleeperGT · 07-29-2004, 07:31 PM

Down here in north FL, stock GT's typically run low 14's with 60 ft's of 2.2 - 2.4. With a few light mod's (drag radials, gears & exhaust) they'll run 13.7 and above with the 60 ft's of 1.9 to 2.1. Slicks make a big difference, seen pure stock '99+ cut 1.7-1.8 60 ft times. I've seen a few posts with guys saying they were on street tires cutting less than 2.0's, even some boasts of 1.9 and less, but I'd have to see it to believe it. Mustangs, espeically 5-spds, are very tough to launch.

Skyman · 07-29-2004, 07:48 PM

My buddys 03 gt, with pulleys only goes 14.0-14.1@99-100 stock tires, with a hell of a driver behind it. With him. 14.3-14.4@98

Lazer50 · 07-30-2004, 01:11 PM

Sry, about the 17" street tires, i didn't mean it was an advantage, i meant that with 17s and spinning would be even to me taking off in a second,

So far that fastest stock pass iv seen was a 02 GT that went 14.311, then another with exhaust and stripped out interior went 14.2, im more suprised that the Fox cars arn't faster, i raced a GT w/5spd, he had exhaust, pullies, TB, MAF, and a Edelbrock intake and he as only running 14.4-14.6

Steven

Rev · 08-01-2004, 01:46 PM

I lined up once against a n '01 GT AOD which was mostly stock (it had under drive pulleys). It ran a 14.21 et. HRP, where I race, is almost at sea level, but humidity is almost always high and summer heat here is also bad.

Rev

orange04gt · 08-04-2004, 12:36 PM

My Boyfriend has an 87' LX 5.0 He ran it at Mason Dixon in Hagerstown, MD on Sunday for his 1st time ever. It was 100+ degrees w/pretty high humidity and he ran 14.6 which was rather impressive to me because all he has is underdrive pullies, cat back Flowmasters and a short throw shifter! Other 5.0's where running low-mid 15's! He was only 1 second slower than an 02' Camaro Z28!

Any suggestion on weight reductions/hp increases would be helpful he a beginner at dragracing.

sdd228 · 08-04-2004, 08:11 PM

wow those times seem pretty slow. im hitting 14.1-14.3 consistently with just the basic mods and street tires. i wonder what DR's and a 125 shot would do for my car, what do you think?

Dark_5.0 · 08-06-2004, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sdd228
wow those times seem pretty slow. im hitting 14.1-14.3 consistently with just the basic mods and street tires. i wonder what DR's and a 125 shot would do for my car, what do you think?

Never waste money on drag radials.

I 60ft 1.94 on nitto drag radials and 1.63 on mickey thompson et streets.

That 3 tenths is the difference between 12's and 13's on my my car. 12's sounds alot better.

sdd228 · 08-07-2004, 02:11 PM

what do you think my car would run with a 125 shot? what else do i have to do, to make sure my car can handle the shot?

Skyman · 08-08-2004, 05:04 PM

Get a 255lph fuel pump, retard your timing appropriately, and your set to go.

You could hit 12.5's with slicks.

Lazer50 · 08-10-2004, 05:59 PM

First night i have lost to a mustang

the guy was actually cool, he trailered in a N/A Bullet and ran a 12.919 @ 111, I think it might just be a combination of our track, and maybe a lack of experienced mustang drivers that are running the times below capabilities, but anyway, i also ran my new best 13.949. Oh im thinking of joining the late model mustang ranks again, i found a 95 GT 5spd, it has 65K miles on it and is bone stock, any ideas what these run stock, my old slug probally wouldn't have been in the 15's

Steven

PS A new GTO with a guy claiming he worked for vortech had an SQ-Trim on and was running 13.2 @ 6psi

07-24-2004, 10:48 AM	#1
Lazer50 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Central Coast, Ca Posts: 24	Mustang Averages at track????? Last night i went to the track, and there seemed to be an unusual amount of newer mustangs, and none of them were running that great (13-14's) and when i looked around most of them were bolt on cars, but i did think the newer mustangs were faster than that w/blot ons, anyone have some input if they see a lot of this at track? Steven PS I also ran the best ever in my truck, with a still traction limited take off in second (See Sig) __________________ 48 Ford F1 Pickup- NEW BEST 8/20 Best ET- 13.765 @ 103.31 60FT 2.193 (My Flying Brick) 67 GTA Mustang (All Stock) Best ET- 15.454 @ 90.58MPH 60FT 2.45

07-24-2004, 12:15 PM	#2
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	It's hard to hook a car on 17" street tires. -Josh, aka the tireburner __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

07-24-2004, 07:54 PM	#3
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Greatly depends on the driver and tire. Most drivers cant get a new GT outta the 14's on stock tires, its very hard. With boltons and tires they are 13-12 cars. __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

07-25-2004, 12:27 PM	#4
1989GT Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Cincinnati,OH Posts: 1,511	A guy I work with has an '03 GT, with bolt-on's, slicks and suspension it has run a best of 12.5 can't remember the MPH. He's a hell of a driver though. -Ryan __________________ 89GT,Pro-Bullet 306, H/C/I and a bunch of other stuff. Sold 00GT, Vortech S-Trim, Steeda Boost Pipe, C&L intake, Mac off-road H-pipe, Flowmasters, B&M Ripper shifter, Eibach Sportline springs, Koni Struts/shocks, MM full length subframe connectors, Cobra brakes, 3.73's. My Car Domain Page

07-25-2004, 04:10 PM	#5
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	'03 Macxh 1 A stock '03 Mach 1 that I lined up against at the track ran a 13.50. I got him by a few lengths mostly because I got him out of the hole. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

07-26-2004, 01:15 AM	#6
Lazer50 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Central Coast, Ca Posts: 24	I don't know, maybe its just these valley guys can't build a car or something, the only mustangs i see are either in the 14's or 12's (Nitroused Notch) so far i havn't lost to a mustang but its probally been luck anyway, thanks for the replys Steven PS Josh- im taking off in second gear on street tires so i think that takes away any advantage 17" street tire car has __________________ 48 Ford F1 Pickup- NEW BEST 8/20 Best ET- 13.765 @ 103.31 60FT 2.193 (My Flying Brick) 67 GTA Mustang (All Stock) Best ET- 15.454 @ 90.58MPH 60FT 2.45

07-27-2004, 07:41 PM	#8
jonnyk Being stroked is great Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 772	17" street tires are an advantage? __________________ Novi 2000 now spinning off the snout of the 331... Mods Pics

07-28-2004, 12:37 PM	#9
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	When I had my 01 cobra I pulled 2.1 60 fts all day with the 17 inch tires and an IRS rear. Keep in mind the air can get as bad as 4800ft here but the best I have seen is a 14.49 out of a stock 99+GT wich would be a high 13 at sea level. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

07-29-2004, 02:24 PM	#10
69fastback IRAQ VET Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: high desert California Posts: 1,480	Most of the tracks in Califronia are alot slower than what you would see back east by 4-5 tenths. The only fast track in southern cal is Pomona wich you can't get on unless it is NHRA or super chevy. __________________ 428 Cobra Jet SOHC 5.4 3V F-150 96 mystic cobra 91 GT

07-29-2004, 07:31 PM	#11
SleeperGT Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ponte Vedra Beach, FL Posts: 122	Down here in north FL, stock GT's typically run low 14's with 60 ft's of 2.2 - 2.4. With a few light mod's (drag radials, gears & exhaust) they'll run 13.7 and above with the 60 ft's of 1.9 to 2.1. Slicks make a big difference, seen pure stock '99+ cut 1.7-1.8 60 ft times. I've seen a few posts with guys saying they were on street tires cutting less than 2.0's, even some boasts of 1.9 and less, but I'd have to see it to believe it. Mustangs, espeically 5-spds, are very tough to launch. __________________ '00 GT 5-spd Vortech S-Trim 3.1" Pulley Paxton Air-to-Air Aftercooler 90 mm MAS 42 lb injectors Cobra Fuel Pump 70 mm AccuFab Throttlebody C & L Intake Plenum 2 1/2" X-pipes Anderson PowerPipe MagnaFlow Mufflers Diablo Custom Chip 3.73's Steeda Lower Control Arms 358 rwhp (Mustang Dyno) New Track Times Coming Soon

07-29-2004, 07:48 PM	#12
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	My buddys 03 gt, with pulleys only goes 14.0-14.1@99-100 stock tires, with a hell of a driver behind it. With him. 14.3-14.4@98 __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

07-30-2004, 01:11 PM	#13
Lazer50 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Central Coast, Ca Posts: 24	Sry, about the 17" street tires, i didn't mean it was an advantage, i meant that with 17s and spinning would be even to me taking off in a second, So far that fastest stock pass iv seen was a 02 GT that went 14.311, then another with exhaust and stripped out interior went 14.2, im more suprised that the Fox cars arn't faster, i raced a GT w/5spd, he had exhaust, pullies, TB, MAF, and a Edelbrock intake and he as only running 14.4-14.6 Steven __________________ 48 Ford F1 Pickup- NEW BEST 8/20 Best ET- 13.765 @ 103.31 60FT 2.193 (My Flying Brick) 67 GTA Mustang (All Stock) Best ET- 15.454 @ 90.58MPH 60FT 2.45

08-01-2004, 01:46 PM	#14
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	'01 GT AOD I lined up once against a n '01 GT AOD which was mostly stock (it had under drive pulleys). It ran a 14.21 et. HRP, where I race, is almost at sea level, but humidity is almost always high and summer heat here is also bad. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

08-04-2004, 12:36 PM	#15
orange04gt Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Harpers Ferry, WV Posts: 1	track averages My Boyfriend has an 87' LX 5.0 He ran it at Mason Dixon in Hagerstown, MD on Sunday for his 1st time ever. It was 100+ degrees w/pretty high humidity and he ran 14.6 which was rather impressive to me because all he has is underdrive pullies, cat back Flowmasters and a short throw shifter! Other 5.0's where running low-mid 15's! He was only 1 second slower than an 02' Camaro Z28! Any suggestion on weight reductions/hp increases would be helpful he a beginner at dragracing.

08-04-2004, 08:11 PM	#16
sdd228 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: penfield, ny, u.s. Posts: 78	wow those times seem pretty slow. im hitting 14.1-14.3 consistently with just the basic mods and street tires. i wonder what DR's and a 125 shot would do for my car, what do you think? __________________ '89 lx 5.0-FLowmasters, H-pipe with cats, 373's, pulleys, BBk headers Best 1/4 mile- 14.1 @98 mph (67 deg. 90+ humidity) Married and bought the new mods... Nitto DR's 245/50R16 NOS hopefully 100 shot

08-07-2004, 02:11 PM	#18
sdd228 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: penfield, ny, u.s. Posts: 78	what do you think my car would run with a 125 shot? what else do i have to do, to make sure my car can handle the shot? __________________ '89 lx 5.0-FLowmasters, H-pipe with cats, 373's, pulleys, BBk headers Best 1/4 mile- 14.1 @98 mph (67 deg. 90+ humidity) Married and bought the new mods... Nitto DR's 245/50R16 NOS hopefully 100 shot

08-08-2004, 05:04 PM	#19
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Get a 255lph fuel pump, retard your timing appropriately, and your set to go. You could hit 12.5's with slicks. __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

08-10-2004, 05:59 PM	#20
Lazer50 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Central Coast, Ca Posts: 24	First night i have lost to a mustang the guy was actually cool, he trailered in a N/A Bullet and ran a 12.919 @ 111, I think it might just be a combination of our track, and maybe a lack of experienced mustang drivers that are running the times below capabilities, but anyway, i also ran my new best 13.949. Oh im thinking of joining the late model mustang ranks again, i found a 95 GT 5spd, it has 65K miles on it and is bone stock, any ideas what these run stock, my old slug probally wouldn't have been in the 15's Steven PS A new GTO with a guy claiming he worked for vortech had an SQ-Trim on and was running 13.2 @ 6psi __________________ 48 Ford F1 Pickup- NEW BEST 8/20 Best ET- 13.765 @ 103.31 60FT 2.193 (My Flying Brick) 67 GTA Mustang (All Stock) Best ET- 15.454 @ 90.58MPH 60FT 2.45

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