4cyl times and #'s??

HiFlow5 0 · 03-24-2002, 01:34 PM

I have a 89 4cyl notch that I need to know 0-60 times, 1/4miles times, and any other times that might help me get off a speeding ticket. The cop said I was doing 47 in a 30, but I know that's false and its hard to fight when he said it was radared! I was driving up a hill and made a complete stop almost at the top, for the truck in front of me to turn. As I crested the top there the cop was sitting with his lights on, I passed and he then pulled me over. I know there is no way I could have been going that fast from where I started. Not to mention that it snowed out that morning, and the roads were still icy in spots. Damn cops and the quota's!!!!!!!

lx mike · 03-24-2002, 02:33 PM

if he got you on radar like he said then it's going to be hard to beat.

1969Mach1 · 03-24-2002, 02:58 PM

You should of asked him to see the radar. I know here in Ontario if you get a speeding ticket you can request to see the radar to prove the speed you were doing. I know if I ever get pulled over I will ask to see it just to verify. As for times, I'm not to sure sorry.

Unit 5302 · 03-24-2002, 03:36 PM

88hp@4000rpm, 132lb/ft@2600rpm. Curb weight, about 2800lbs for the hatch or coupe.

Expect 0-60 times to be around 11sec for the non-verts. Maybe a little quicker with the stick. It's slow as molasses in January.

I've had 2-88LX Hatchs with the 2.3L and A4LD auto, I know all about it, hehe.

You were cresting a hill? If he got you on radar, you should be scott free. The radar would not only measure your vehicles physical speed, but also the change in direction over the crest. If it's lazer, it will be much harder to defend. Show up, and try to get the prosecutor to keep it off your record by making it unreasonable acceleration, or something that doesn't go on your insurance record.

Mr 5 0 · 03-24-2002, 03:57 PM

I don't have any hard data on the quarter-mile et/ 0-60 mph times for the '89 2.3 Mustang (hard to find as no one cares) but I would guess that it's around 19-20 seconds in the quarter-mile and probably 12 seconds or more 0-60.

88 HP doesn't do much and they don't get better with age.

HiFlow5 0 · 03-24-2002, 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by Unit 5302
You were cresting a hill? If he got you on radar, you should be scott free. The radar would not only measure your vehicles physical speed, but also the change in direction over the crest. If it's lazer, it will be much harder to defend. Show up, and try to get the prosecutor to keep it off your record by making it unreasonable acceleration, or something that doesn't go on your insurance record.

How would I get off "scott free" if he got me on radar? Isn't radar suppose to be accurate?

Rev · 03-24-2002, 07:19 PM

What you need is a lawyer. You won't get off convincing a judge of the technical inaccuracy of radar.

Where you will prevail is with the legal expertise of a good lawyer. You will need to pay the lawyer's fee of course.

Good representation is usually worth the money.

Rev

HiFlow5 0 · 03-24-2002, 07:27 PM

I'm sure I could get off with representation, but its really not worth it. The ticket is only $75 and I would more then likely pay out my butt for a lawyer.

Someone was telling me that they have to keep records at city hall of radar calibrations, and when they were last done in that town. If that's true would that work to my advantage if it wasn't done in a while of improperly?

Unit 5302 · 03-24-2002, 10:15 PM

Radar is not accurate unless it's tracking a target moving in a straight line because it can compound speeds.

No lawyer is going to be able to do **** for you. They are worthless in traffic court, although they may be able to get you a better plea bargain.

1BAD89 · 03-25-2002, 01:28 AM

Quote:

You should of asked him to see the radar. I know here in Ontario if you get a speeding ticket you can request to see the radar to prove the speed you were doing. I know if I ever get pulled over I will ask to see it just to verify.

If you tried saying that around here, they would either
A. Laugh at you, and write you a ticket.
B. Get upset, and write you a ticket. or
C. Write you a ticket.

For a $75 ticket.... Don't get a lawyer, most of them charge at least $500. Just go up there and talk to the prosecutor, and see what you can do to keep it off our record. Most of the time the prosecutor's will work with you and are fairly cool about it all. Community service, def. driving, etc....maybe not even that.

Mustangbelle306 · 03-25-2002, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rev
What you need is a lawyer. You won't get off convincing a judge of the technical inaccuracy of radar.

Where you will prevail is with the legal expertise of a good lawyer. You will need to pay the lawyer's fee of course.

Good representation is usually worth the money.

Rev

I agree. I don't know what the points on the ticket are, or what your previous record is, but if its at least 3 points, $500 up front for a clean driving record and no insurance increases would be worth it to me, assuming you would win.

Every time a friend of mine (thank goodness not myself yet!) has brought a lawyer to court, its been worth the expense. You could always try going yourself, then appealing with a lawyer.

Good Luck!

Mustangbelle306 · 03-25-2002, 10:23 AM

Whoops, forgot to add this...

I remember a few years back, a 4 cyl notch (Project White Trash) running ~22s in the 1/4 before they sprayed and destroyed the 2.3L mill

03-24-2002, 01:34 PM	#1
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	4cyl times and #'s?? I have a 89 4cyl notch that I need to know 0-60 times, 1/4miles times, and any other times that might help me get off a speeding ticket. The cop said I was doing 47 in a 30, but I know that's false and its hard to fight when he said it was radared! I was driving up a hill and made a complete stop almost at the top, for the truck in front of me to turn. As I crested the top there the cop was sitting with his lights on, I passed and he then pulled me over. I know there is no way I could have been going that fast from where I started. Not to mention that it snowed out that morning, and the roads were still icy in spots. Damn cops and the quota's!!!!!!! __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

03-24-2002, 02:33 PM	#2
lx mike Undescribable Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Ft Myers Fla Posts: 1,539	if he got you on radar like he said then it's going to be hard to beat. __________________ Rice Haters Club Member #101

03-24-2002, 02:58 PM	#3
1969Mach1 HEY I CAN SET A NAME NOW! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,556	You should of asked him to see the radar. I know here in Ontario if you get a speeding ticket you can request to see the radar to prove the speed you were doing. I know if I ever get pulled over I will ask to see it just to verify. As for times, I'm not to sure sorry. __________________ 1969 Mustang Mach 1Sold 351-4V Windsor, 4 Speed MACH 1 - Moving At The Speed Of Sound. 1979 Mustang Indianapolis 500 Pace Car For Sale - Email me for Info 302-2V, 3-Speed Auto One of 2,106 made One of 405 sent to Canada. Yes those are caution lights, and No you can't pass me when there on. Ricer Hater's Club - Member #4

03-24-2002, 03:57 PM	#5
Mr 5 0 Conservative Individualist Join Date: May 1997 Location: Wherever I need to be Posts: 7,487	Radar hassle I don't have any hard data on the quarter-mile et/ 0-60 mph times for the '89 2.3 Mustang (hard to find as no one cares) but I would guess that it's around 19-20 seconds in the quarter-mile and probably 12 seconds or more 0-60. 88 HP doesn't do much and they don't get better with age.

03-24-2002, 07:19 PM	#7
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	What you need is a lawyer. You won't get off convincing a judge of the technical inaccuracy of radar. Where you will prevail is with the legal expertise of a good lawyer. You will need to pay the lawyer's fee of course. Good representation is usually worth the money. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

03-24-2002, 03:36 PM	#4
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	88hp@4000rpm, 132lb/ft@2600rpm. Curb weight, about 2800lbs for the hatch or coupe. Expect 0-60 times to be around 11sec for the non-verts. Maybe a little quicker with the stick. It's slow as molasses in January. I've had 2-88LX Hatchs with the 2.3L and A4LD auto, I know all about it, hehe. You were cresting a hill? If he got you on radar, you should be scott free. The radar would not only measure your vehicles physical speed, but also the change in direction over the crest. If it's lazer, it will be much harder to defend. Show up, and try to get the prosecutor to keep it off your record by making it unreasonable acceleration, or something that doesn't go on your insurance record.

03-24-2002, 07:27 PM	#8
HiFlow5 0 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Springfield, Ma, usa Posts: 706	I'm sure I could get off with representation, but its really not worth it. The ticket is only $75 and I would more then likely pay out my butt for a lawyer. Someone was telling me that they have to keep records at city hall of radar calibrations, and when they were last done in that town. If that's true would that work to my advantage if it wasn't done in a while of improperly? __________________ NewEngland Auto www.baystategearheads.com -91 Mustang Coupe, ex 4cyl (sold) -99 F150, 3" lift, 35" Procomps, Magnaflow exhaust

03-24-2002, 10:15 PM	#9
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Radar is not accurate unless it's tracking a target moving in a straight line because it can compound speeds. No lawyer is going to be able to do **** for you. They are worthless in traffic court, although they may be able to get you a better plea bargain.

03-25-2002, 10:23 AM	#12
Mustangbelle306 Yay for Chickys Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,532	Whoops, forgot to add this... I remember a few years back, a 4 cyl notch (Project White Trash) running ~22s in the 1/4 before they sprayed and destroyed the 2.3L mill

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