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Nissan suprises me
Cruising down Braeswood in Houston and I see what I thought was a customized Nissan Stanza coupe. It had a front fascia with large round driving lights that looked kinda like the ones on the new Subaru WRX. About 3/4 the size of normal round head lights. This wasn't a WRX. About the size of an earlier Accord and a little "boxy". Not any big wing and no stickers anywhere. I looked at the rear for any model designation and saw none. All I saw was a GTR on the deck lid.
To make a short story even shorter we ran even from a light to 60 MPH. My jaw probably dropped 6". The guy waved friendly like and turned off. My car runs 0-60 at 5.3 on a good day. 5.5 probably on a day like today (100 F in Houston). This was either an earlier Skyline ('90ish), or a heavily and tastefully modified Nissan Stanza with N2O2. I had to let off at 60 on an ordinary street because a car pulled out in my lane. We were dead even. Needless to say, this Nissan suprised the heck out of me. Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi. |
Not that it has much to do with your encounter, but... I heard the new Nissan Maxima will have 260HP - that is definitely going to suck if I get beat by a FOUR door! Think I can convince my wife I need a few more mods...
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Well, build it faster, build it better, then no worries.. and if all else fails, spray it.
------------------ 93 Coupe, long tubes, pro chamber, flowmasters, 3.73, auburn, alum driveshft, subframes, tri-ax, pulley, 73mm MAF, cold air, TFS TW heads, stage 1 cam, track heat intake, 1.6 roller rockers, 24 lb injectors, mac 70mm throttle body, edelbrock water pump, be cool radiator. best ET of 8.73 @ 79.2 in 1/8th before heads, cam, intake, rr's, and tb. |
I had a little honda with no stickers at all no wing at all (which in itself is an accomplishment) and the stock exhaust pipe run me only to put barely a car and a half on him at the end of 110mph. Of course it was from a 25mph roll but still...this thing was fast. That's why I laugh and rev at the sticker crowd but take the sticker-less more seriously.
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Those ricers in plain wrappers are usually the ones that are faster. Not to say they are really fast. The ones that are all stickered out want to look fast and cool but usually don't have any idea about how to make their car any faster except for adding nitro and a fart pipe. I'm not really sure if that pipe alone even helps power or just sounds like a vacuum cleaner.
"Rice, it's what's for dinner" ------------------ 65 fastback 347 DFI injected, TFS heads, T5, 4.11 9", tc subframe conns, torq thrust D's A little history lesson using today's tech. |
You can usually tell the fake ricer by his flowmaster and K&N filter stickers that even if he had wouldn't add anything but noise.
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From a Friend:
Hate to tell you the bad news, but the Skyline GTRs are already here. These things (R34s and R36s) are AWD and 280 hp out of the factory (Just like Impreza WRXs and the forthcoming Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VII) and can give a Cobra a severe run for its money. Then on top of that, these cars can be modded to 1000 hp very easily. There is already a company importing Skyline GT-Rs to us over here. I'll give Kid the URL. |
What the hell is a "skyline"? Manufacturer? I'm not convinced this dude is describing a 280 hp car-maybe a quick import but not 280hp. I could be wrong, Im no rice chef-maybe Im confused because they have no torque and need more hp to run fast.
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skyline is made by nissan. Very powerful little engines I believe they come with V6. Some up to 450 hp with mods that are easy to do. If I ever had to drive an import it would be a skyline.
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Skylines are pretty awesome cars - I saw one at the Lemans races at Sears Point that one of the companies that imports them brought. All wheel drive twin turbo 2.5L V6. These cars have a traction control system unlike on other cars I have seen (most cars use the brakes at each corner). The Skyline senses lateral and longitudinal G-forces as well as yaw rate and uses front/rear and left/right viscous differentials to control how much torque gets to each of the four wheels individually. Brakes into a corner effectively in a rear-wheel-drive mode to allow the front tires more traction for braking and turn-in, then uses the all-wheel drive to pull out of a turn like crazy.
The pamphlet that they were giving out claims that the new R35 model can run the 1/4 mile in the high-12 to low-13 range on street tires. From what I have seen, the Japanese companies underrate the cars that they sell in Japan because they are not allowed to have more than 285hp on a street car. Obviously most of the Japanese turbo cars that they sold here (3000GT-VR4, 300ZX twin turbo, Supra) were rated for 320hp and that's not because they actually have more horsepower than the Japanese models. Oh yeah, did I mention that they also have rear wheel steering actuated by an electric servo motor... [This message has been edited by blue00gt (edited 08-06-2001).] |
How much do these Skylines cost?
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damn i got to get me rw turning car.....u could do donuts like the monster trucks do!!!!!!!!!if i werte to drive an import it would be a supra tt or rx7 turbo......
but that will never happen so ------------------ Black 1990 gt cobra bonestock not for long |
As I said, I think this was an older one that someone somehow got into the country. I think these were inline 6's with twin turbos. I looked at some Nissan sites and this looked like an older one. Definitely said GTR on the deck lid and had the Nissan Logo. Actually a pretty nice looking car...and damned quick.
Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi. |
I've never seen a skyline in the country, they are very rare. If it was right side drive, then it's a possibility, but you can be assured its not if it was left side drive.
And about the japaneese under rating their cars, yes. Its funny the things they do to pass. Skylines have had systems where they have an easilly acessable "plug" installed from the factory. It takes like 40 or so hp out of the fuel/timing curve so that it can pass the jap standards. All the user has to do is remove this plug, or flip a switch and unleash the power. ------------------ '90 Eclipse GS Turbo |
I had a 1971 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe that I bought brand new. From what I had read, it was supposed to be quick. 2200 lbs., a 5 speed (very rare then) and a 1600 CC DOC engine. After I broke it in it wasn't near what it should have been. Turns out the timing was very retarded and the Webber 2v with vacuum secondary was set where the second barrel never opened at all. This stuff was done so it would pass emissions.
What I did was put the spring on the other side of the vacuum diaphram, thus turning the Webber into a mechanical progressisive 2V. A decent distributor advance and this little car would scoot. Couldn't keep it out of the shop, so I had to sell it. Was fun when it ran though. Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi. |
Has someone been playing GT3>? =P
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Hey I thought this was a Mustang site not Uncle Bens cooking recipies http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif. Naw just kidding, hey if the imports go fast then they are not rice. Rice is the extraneous crap that idiots add to cars to make them look faster. If the stuff they add actually .does. make it go faster then it certainly isn't rice. It's beef baby http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif
Those engines they have in some of those imports have a hell of a lot better engineering in them than the Ford ones do. Hey we have a lot of cubic inches to play with so who cares about refinement? Well it would be nice if Ford did as much as we do... maybe we wouldn't have to spend a bunch of dollars on getting heads ported or new camshafts and the like. Why is it that everything stock has to be average and only just good enough to do the job. Ford doesn't put any potential into their engines, we have to swap everything out to get there. The only thing we have to work with is cubic inches, and the imports don't even have that yet they put out some fantastic horsepower numbers. Hmmm. |
It is soooooo hard to get power out of na import engines without displacement. Hondas especially are so well engineered that you have to spend big bucks on forced induction to get any usable power out of them though.
I hear where you're coming from from an engineering standpoint. The supra can support 1000 plus hp on the stock bottom end, the 4g63 engine in dsm's is good for 550-600 hp. For a further testiment, my friend is running mid 11 second slips on the stock head, and stock bottom except for higher compression 2g pistons in his 1g. The skyline however is pretty much a supercar. With an engine every bit as stron as a supra, with an indestructible 4wd system. Plus, with stock "artifical displacement aka: turbocharged" it's suprisingly easy to get those, and any boosted car to run. Fast is fast, and I don't descriminate when it comes to speed. Wether it's a v8 or an inline 4 or 6 cyl pushing me back in the seat it's all the same. ------------------ '90 Eclipse GS Turbo |
I am hearing the same thing the skylines are here beware http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/tongue.gif I would like to catch one slipping to see what it can do. From what I read they were illegal for street use but I guess they decreased the hp for U.S. sales. Yeah right! I have seen the older skylines while visiting Japan they looked more like nissan stanza with the hatchback.
------------------ 93 cobra #3786 K/N filter 3:73 gears bbk headers, H Pipe flowmaster catback exhaust, triple crome plate 17" original factory wheels |
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------------------ 90 Honda CRX aka Project Mongoose Estimated Completion: ON STANDBY 84 Toyota Supra: Japanese 6mge installed within two weeks..... High flow cat, two chamber flowmaster, custom 2.5" piping, msd 8.5mm wires. Will have boost before 2002. Have HKS turbo manifold for it:D..... |
Hmmm pity you guys don't have many 'lines running around, much like we miss out on american muscle cars... we gotta settle for aussie made V6's n V8's...
some info on skylines... There's a lot of different types n models of em... and different shapes of skylines too. First off theres no such thing as an R36... lol starting with R31 (first modern skyline to have some sort of performance scope) Engine: RB30E: SOHC Inline 6 3.0L engine, EFI 2 Door or 4 Door, most of them were N/A and the Turbo versions are rare. R32 (First Skyline that had some serious power) comes in different types: GTS (N/A) RB20DE (2.0L DOHC) or RB25DE (2.5L DOHC) GTSt (Single Turbo) RB20DET or RB25DET (rare) GTS4 (GTSt with All Wheel Drive, previous ones were RWD) RB20DET GTR (Twin Turbo AWD 2.6L, nicknamed Gojira, or Godzilla) RB26DETT - This is the one you guys can import to the US, you guys cant get the lower spec ones. (Which make very very very nice Drift cars) There are 2 door coupes or 4 door versions R33 - these don't use 2.0L anymore only available in 2.5L R34 - Current model one, that unfortunately they're gonna use in FnF2 and attractt he attention of every single riceboy on earth. Most of us don't like the idea or ricers putting our signature stoveplates on their Honda's n eclipses, or GTR badges on 4cyl shitboxes, or buying a 'line only to lace it with stickon graphics and T-Wings that double as park benches. If you guys want more info check out www.skylinesaustralia.com or skylinesdownunder.co.nz |
Oh and GTR's are sold in Japan with the stock power stated as the legal limit when they actually put out a bit more, n they're very easy to tweak.
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who wants to buy me one? :D
Hey Funkmonkey have you looked at what Ford and GM of australia is doing now? There cars are MUCH better than ours for the most part. V8 RWD sedans, Turbo Inline 6 sedans for Ford and then of course the Holdens too. One day i will get rich and retire to Australia :D :D :D it is too bad you guys dont get many of the 60's and 70's musclecars like we do. I know you guys have some but arer they pretty rare? |
OKay so these skylines are fast, hmmm well i guess 280 is good, but my Stang will put 400hp on the ground with 400+torque,
and this is before the Powerdyne gets into the act... Remember boys.... No replacement for displacement, and i don't care how bad those turbos spin, they arent' going to put the same torque down as a well tuned 351W supercharged....sorry but the torque gets me off the line and the HP gets me down the line.... So bring on those skylines...I'll send them back to japan in pieces... :D :D :D |
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Spend a little time researching the skylines, and you will realize what the rest of the world already knows. They are the best production car to never be imported to the US. Period. |
So the Ford production S7 is a better car
and for the price the Z06 is a much better ride, and modded would hand the skyline its *****$ any day of the week.... sorry not buying it here in SD:D |
Tell me does this skyine do 6 second runs?
i have yet to see anything that comes out of japan that is that fast that doesn't have a rocket shoved up its arse and lit or falling off a cliff...a very high cliff... :D :D |
ImportKiller:rolleyes:, hope you see my challenge in the other post. My car doesn't have a rocket and isn't falling off a cliff...but I am sure that it will beat your "superior" vehicle.
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When ever Where Ever....
I'll cook your rice.... oh and by the way here are the specs of the skyline that you're all bowing down too... R34 Specifications as tested by Road and Track February 1999 Horsepower 276 bhp @ 6800 rpm Torque 271 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm Acceleration 0-40 mph 2.7 0-60 mph 5.3 0-80 mph 9.1 0-100 mph 12.9 0-1320 ft (1/4 mile) 14.0 @ 104 mph Braking From 70 mph 159 ft Handling 300 ft skidpad 0.94 g Interior Noise Idle in neutral 47 dBA Full throttle acceleration 81 dBA 70 mph cruising 72 dBA 70 mph coasting 71 dBA Horsepower 277 bhp @ 6800 rpm Torque 293 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm Acceleration 0-40 mph 2.7 0-60 mph 5.2 0-80 mph 8.7 0-100 mph 13.0 0-1320 ft (1/4 mile) 13.7 @ 103.5 mph Braking From 60 mph 120 ft From 80 mph 204 ft Handling 200 ft skidpad 0.89 g 700 ft slalom 60.8 mph Fuel Economy Normal Driving 22.8 mpg Interior Noise Idle in neutral 52 dBA Maximum 1st gear 78 dBA 70 mph 76 dBA 13.7 seconds stock.... You give me that money you spent on that pos and i'll put it into a mustang and i'll be in the 9's or even 8's..... It all comes down to one thing....you spent all that money and you can still be beaten by a man who spent 20k on his domestic.... and lets not even begin to talk about chevys...obtaining hp in a chevy is so easy even my lil brother could do it.... :mad: :D |
Set a date ImportKiller. I am waiting on you.
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Lying dormant?
How the heck did this thread get started again after lying dormant for a year?
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That's a good question Rev.
Why don't you guys set a date and get this crap over. Put your money where your mouths are and do it. Geez, I'm tired of reading this stuff. Keep it confined to emails, not the boards. |
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