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exgmguy 04-28-2002 08:32 PM

I will never go 10's!!!!!
 
The car club I am in, www.motownmuscle.com went to St. Thomas Dragway in Canada for our season opener Saturday.

I made 4 motor passes, All 12.0's @ 111-112, then I sprayed it to an 11.15 @122.86 mph. My 60 ft was a nice 1.54, the 1/8th mile was 7.10 @ 99 mph, BUT NO STINKIN" 10!!!!!
I did not powershift the "glass T-5" considering I drove my car to the track, But I figured with my previous fuel system issue fixed I would have it in the bag. Nope. :(

And on my spray pass my PCV line blew out of the back of the intake, and also shot out the screen and the bushing. That has never happened before. I guess I may have a serious blow-by issue on my hands.

Any suggestions on what I could do to pick up maybe two mph?
I was tossing these Ideas around:

Switching to long tubes and an X-pipe
Swapping out the E-303 cam for ??????
Powershifting the T-5
MORE NAAWWWSSSS!!!!:D

I also tried swapping on a 70 mm throttle body in place of my 65. Absolutely no difference at all.

I placed 2nd in the quick 8, beat a 383 LT1 Camaro in the first round, then lost to a 10.90 383 Trans Am in round two.

lx mike 04-28-2002 09:07 PM

Quote:

Switching to long tubes and an X-pipe
Swapping out the E-303 cam for ??????
Powershifting the T-5
MORE NAAWWWSSSS!!!!
all of the above!! :D :D

SprchrgdPony 04-28-2002 09:17 PM

If you can pick up a F cam to use, id go with that. An F cam is a great power adder cam, and works a bit better then the E cam. With running an 11.1 with the E, im pretty sure you will pick up a few more .10ths and be in the 10's without changing anything but your Cam. Going from a 65mm to a 70mm could have actually hurt you, since with a N/A-Nitrous car you arent trying to force so much air into the Intake so you dont need such a big opening, a street/nitrous car always works great with a 65mm T/B. I say go with the F303 cam :)

Skyman 04-28-2002 09:26 PM

Damn your gettin close... Hmm, did your plugs melt or anything this time? Id you get all those problems resolved? I thought u were gettin 125mph before. Id try some race fuel and a little more aggressive tune? that might get you there.

Skyler

89 Cobra LX 04-29-2002 07:56 AM

You still have some great times.

I would start with long tubes and an X or H-pipe (more expensive than a cam, but easier install).

Your combo would definitely benefit from a different cam. Didn't Rick91GT drop something sick like .4 from his 1/4 mile time when he switched to an Anderson Ford Motorsport cam? A custom grind would help you a lot.

joe4speed 04-29-2002 12:52 PM

Don't give up!!! You're so close!! You will hit it!

sedanman 04-29-2002 01:55 PM

I just swapped out to long tubes, h-pipe, mac produmps from bbk equallength shorties, h-pipe, and flowmaster cat back. It is obvious that I picked up time (I think 1 to 2mph) so you might pick up even more. And the sound from the produmps is without a doubt the best sound I have heard from a 5L car.

Red514LX 04-29-2002 04:18 PM

If it's only the number that matters, just add a little more nitrous, get your 10, and be done with it. Long-term, think about a 302 or, better yet, 351W stroker motor....

In my opinion, a stroker motor is about the best way to spend $$ on a car. You get added hp while also freshening up the motor at the same time......it's a win-win situation.

302 LX Eric 04-29-2002 04:39 PM

I'd go with the long tubes and a custom cam.

E

exgmguy 04-29-2002 04:47 PM

I do believe I resolved my fuel system issue. I added a T-rex pump and did not melt any plugs this time. Although my previous best mph was 125. This weekend I only ran 122 something. I had my inital timing at 10 degrees for the spray, and when I ran 125 I had the timing at 15 degrees initial. So the extra timing I was running before may have contributed. This weekend I also ran with about 1/2 94 octane and half Torco 110.

It smells nice. :D

I also think I should be running a little quicker on the hose. I would imagine that a 150 shot should get me around 12 or 13 mph, not 10 mph. Maybe a dyno-tune with a wideband might get things in order. An N.O.S. Tech guy told me that his Mustang traps 108 on motor, and 122 on a dry 150 shot!

I know I could benefit from a cam with more than the E's 220 degrees @ .050. This cam should stop making power around 5500 RPM, and on the dyno I peaked @ 5800. I dunno, It would really suck to spend a day swapping my cam and not go any faster.

Eric4Nitrous 04-29-2002 06:45 PM

Man, you are SO close!!! I think you should definately get rid of the E-cam. I don't really care much for it. The F cam previously mentioned is really a good cam. But It works better with superchargers than nitrous. You should look into getting a custom ground cam. If you do, get Ed Curtis to grind you one. He does some of the best nitrous cam's etc out there. I don't think long tubes will really benefit you at the moment. Get the custom cam, and spray some more NAWSSSS!!! If you don't want more nitrous, get a big fart pipe and some japanese writing...that will surely get you into the 10's..lol

Eric

EZRIDN 04-29-2002 11:36 PM

You'll get there man!

Just have fun and drive it, you'll get in the 10's when you least expect it and not trying to.

Stangrrr 04-30-2002 04:50 PM

So close, yet so far! I think that I'd switch cams also. I never did like the E cam that much (sorry, no offence - to all E cam users!)

I wish that I could have made it out to the track to see you guys, but something came up. Maybe next time I 'll finally get to meet you, Rob!

mysweetlx 05-01-2002 04:20 PM

Damn those are nice times......and that 60' is sick! You're just about there man. I think you'd be there w/ either the cam upgrade or the longtubes and x-pipe. Both together should get you @ least .3 off that 11.1. Good luck....it's only a matter of time.

ReefBlueCoupe 05-02-2002 07:58 AM

powershifting alone should do it, but I dont blame you for not doing it.. especially driving the car to the track.

if it's not an emissions problem, i cant understand why anyone would use shorties over long tubes. GET EM :D

86GT 05-06-2002 08:45 AM

I almost made it there for Saturday, but my T-5 is messed up again. How is the track? Last year I remember it as being awful, the starting line was pretty much untouched, and the kid spraying water into the burnout box always liked to spray the car a little bit if it went around the box. Anyway, I'm hoping to get my T-5 out and fixed this week, and then I'm off to Grand Bend, which is "supposed" to be better. If you go to St. Thomas or Grand Bend, drop me a line.


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