Can't get an S2000 to race.
 

I've tried to get 5 S2000's to race me in the last month and a half, and nothing.

The gray one wouln'nt race after pacing next to him for 2 miles.

The two red ones conveniently turned off.

The other gray one was haulin a$$ through traffic and was smokin past everybody, but when I got next to him he did'nt want anything to do with me.

Then of course the Yellow one, I was three cars back in traffic and see him picking on a defensless 4-cyl 90 coupe. He was revving at him and dogged him from the stoplight.
Conveniently, I was beside him at the next light and he would'nt even look at me. I tached 1st and knew he was a no go. What a wuss.

Car and Driver claims they run 14.1. With that, he'll probably beat me. Maybe he was afraid to have his $30,000 honda beat by a car that looks as bad as mine does. (dented door and quarter and needs paint)

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90LX Ragtop.
14.7@95.3
Strut tower brace, K&N, 2.25'' Flowmasters, Hollow cats, Crank pulley, Crane 2031, Crane rockers, Holley FPR, 155lph, Heavy duty clutch, and alum quadrant.
Need Gears Bad!!!

I have also tried to get 3 or 4 different S2000's to race and none of them would run. One of them was even on a windy 4-lane road and didn't want to play so I pulled ahead of him a little and pitched it sideways.
I can't figure out if these guys are just so arrogant that they think they are in a league above Mustangs, or if they are just scared to lose to a car that costs a lot less money like Jeb said.

100% of those S2000 owners ignore me (i've only tried to race 2, but i've driven next to alot of others), and this is what i figure:
They're usually older guys and especially here in washington they're probably microsoft employees who just want the image.
Maybe they only race similar cars like other hondas, BMW convertibles, etc. Although i've never seen ANY S2000's race, maybe this is a plausible theory.
Maybe someday i'll find one to kick my @ss on the street, but until then they're just another rich guy who doesn't want to "use" his car (like most Porsche/Ferrari/exotic car owners)


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'84 Mustang 5.0 LX
My car

I have seen a Honda S2000 at the track and I was very impressed he pulled off 14.40's all day long if you convert his time to sea level that puts him at a mid 13 not bad at all, but for that price I would rather get a SS camaro a cobra or a vette.

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88 mustang gt convertible bored to 306 BBk equal length headers mac cold air fender kit 3.73 FMS gears cowl hood nitto drag radials ford racing clutch flow masters h-pipe 160* thermostat 16 degrees of timing electric fan off 94' t-bird jacobs electronics cap and wires. Edelbrock 1 1/2 inch drop springs.

typical reply.... you guys need to understand that the S2000 was produced to go against Porsche Boxster, Mercedes SLK, BMW Z3, etc... and it does great agianst those... it not only cost sveral thousand dollars less... but it also out perform every single car in his class. Of course when you compare with an SS... it look stupid to buy a S2000... same problem with the NSX... the NSX was build to go agianst ferraris... not Mustangs and camaros!!!

and I think... 13s 1/4 with a N/A 2.0L is not bad at all!!!

Peace http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

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2000 Honda Civic SiR
15.217 @ 91.884 mph
(w/ AEM CAI in +100F temp)
1989 Ford Mustang LX Coupe 5.0L (RIP)
14.120 @ 98.126 mph

Correct me if I am wrong but I was pretty sure that S2000 does not run 13's...and I know that whatever it is that they claim it runs best...keep in mind that those cars are very difficult to drive perfectly every time and to do their best times they have to put alot of wear on their clutches...you will see if you try and look stuff up on em

I'll tell you what I understand. A sports car is a sports car. Its made to go fast. And when someone wants to race me, regardless of what it is, I'll race. Its about fun. I don't care what was built to compete against what. If it is next to me at a light, it was built to compete with me. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/cool.gif I do not know why these s2000 owners won't race. I have the same problem here. Only I also have NSXs, '90+ 300zxs, and your typical ricers and they are all driven buy asians! THEY NEVER RACE. For all of you keeping score at home, that is zer0. Hey, thats fine. If I can, I always tell them to roll their window down and inform them on how much of an idiot they are for spending all that money on a sports car they don't use.

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94' Stang GT Convertible --Cobra upper&lower, Mac cold air w/K&N, BBK equal length shorties, BBK offroad H-pipe, American Thunder cat-back, BBK T/B 65mm, 24lb injectors, Pro-77mm MAM, pulleys, aluminum driveshaft, 3.55s 14.4@100. (Sad, i know. i have stock heads)

14.4@98MPH was what R&T got with one.

I am a Truck driver and I transport new Hondas and Acuras to the dealers and as soon as the S2000's get to the dealer they Jack the price up to $40-41k. I sure as hell wouldn't pay that much for one maybe $30k besides I don't fit in them at all(I am 6,3 245), its bad enough trying to get my head out the window to back them on the truck! http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

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Danny M
98 Cobra
Bone stock for Now

My friend have one... he tried it 2-3 times at the 1/4 and did a best of 13.855 @ 100.356 MPH . Yes those cars are hard to drive perfect on the 1/4 because they were just not made to do 1/4. Its a sport car... its a road racing car... and its what my friend use it for... SOLO I & SOLO II!

Have fun!
http://pages.infinit.net/sev/13.855RunOn22Oct2000.jpg

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2000 Honda Civic SiR
15.217 @ 91.884 mph
(w/ AEM CAI in +100F temp)
1989 Ford Mustang LX Coupe 5.0L (RIP)
14.120 @ 98.126 mph



[This message has been edited by Special K (edited 07-23-2001).]

I can't get S2000s to race either. It's because they think they've got an unbeatable car, but don't really want to take the chance of finding out the truth.

Ease up everybody. S2000s are not drag cars. My buddy has one and I drove it. Handling is amazing - like a slot car. So much less car to throw around a corner than any stang. Don't get me wrong, its fast, but has a lot less torque and all of it's power comes way up the tach. I think it redlines at 9K or so. Ridiculously high!

We had a friendly race at a light once and my Cobra clobbered him... not even close. However, I'd probably have a hard time staying with him on a road course.

That 4 cyl engine is a marvel in my opinion and the car is very, very fun... but I'll never trade my Cobra for one http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif

oh and my friend dynoed his car at 211 rwhp ... either the drivetrain is GREAT or the engine is underated!

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2000 Honda Civic SiR
15.217 @ 91.884 mph
(w/ AEM CAI in +100F temp)
1989 Ford Mustang LX Coupe 5.0L (RIP)
14.120 @ 98.126 mph

I can get one to race either. But as for saying they are only built for road coarses thats crap. How many of us have raced M3's? Designed to be a great all around car. thats what honda was shooting for with the s2000. i would love the looks on their faces if they ran with a lightning. stock on stock run door to door. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif oh and dont forget you can also tow him when he tosses a piston a 9000 rpms

The s2000's have no bottom end at all. They only have 150 ft/lbs@7500rpm and 240hp @ 8900rpm. I did see one though at the track. Actually was a friend of mine. His first time at the track he turned a 13.9 at about 97 or 98. If one does race you and you aren't ready he may get ya.

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90 GT 150k on the motor never had the valve covers off, 1 5/8" headers, x-pipe, 2chamber flowmaster,fms aluminum ds, 3.55, best time on 245/45/17 2.08 60', 13.906 @ 98.98

I think it was Motor Trend that took a bunch of cars out and beat the hell out of them trying to get good 1/4 mile times. The S2000 managed to pull off a 13.9, but they said they had to slip the clutch out from 6000rpms and shift at redline to get it to do it.

They said when they shifted at something like 5500rpms or 6000, the 0-60 time went into the 11's.

So yes, it's possible for a person who know's what they are doing to get them into the 13's, a few times before the clutch is roasted beyond recognition.

They shifted at 5500 and only hit 60 in 11 seconds? I think that is a typo or you are very mistaken...I can hit 60 in prolly 10 or 10 and half with my 4000 pound sled...those torque numbers are gross though...its like a joke...I have enough torque for me and 1 of them with a/c on and 4 passengers...just no horsepower http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif I saw some guy on website one time with a turbocharged civic or somethin that barely broke 200 ft/lbs torque...thought that was pretty funny.

"It only took the S2000 5.8 seconds to reach 60 mph, and it did the quarter mile in 14.2 at 98.1. This compares favorably to 6.3 seconds 0-60 and 14.8 seconds at 91.4 mph for the BMW, and 6.0 seconds 0-60 and 14.5 at 94.6 for the Porsche. The S2000 numbers came after launching at 8000 rpm (producing little tire spin) and shifting at 8300. On one run, we launched and shifted at 5500; the 0-60 time rose to more than 11 seconds." - Motor Trend November 1999.

I can't imagine that the clutch will hold up long after a few 8000 rpm "slip of the clutch" launches.

Sounds like you have to drive the piss out of them to get them to move.

On another note, did anyone see the mew MM&FF article on the 01 Cobra? They ran a couple 13.4's and one 13.3 @ 104 in BONE STOCK trim. It is about time! http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif

E

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1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 38,000 miles

13.17 @ 106.14 mph w/ 2.138 60'

What's wrong with shifting at redline if your car is still making power there? And about the 0-60 with the 5500 shift, of course it is going to be slower!! If you shift any car before it's powerband, it is going to take longer to get to 60....

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90 Honda CRX aka Project Mongoose
Estimated Completion: ON STANDBY

84 Toyota Supra:
Japanese 6mge installed within two weeks.....
High flow cat, two chamber flowmaster, custom 2.5" piping, msd 8.5mm wires. Will have boost before 2002.
Have HKS turbo manifold for it:D.....