Ricer says he can beat me with 100 shot...
 

A ricer from my school yesterday said that his Civic SI with custom headers, exhaust, and a 100 shot of NOS could kick my stang's ***. I don't know much about Civic SI's are they known to be pretty quick with that setup? Just curious. He also said that he beat a BMW M3 on the highway. He estimates he can run a 12.9 in the 1/4. I'm not exactly sure how fast my car is in the quarter mile but I assume i probably got around 240 HP, and a little over 300 ft.- lbs. of torque (Check sig for my mods). Can I beat him by a lot or will he actually propose a threat to me?

No worries. Run him and find out.

Hi,

I really doubt he can run in the 12s with that setup. There is no way he can shoot 100shot in first or second gear.

Without nitrous his setup if good for low 15s. And I would guess somewhere in the high 13s with nitrous. Maybe mid 13s at best.

I would definatly put my money on him on the highway tho.

My girlfriend drives an Si, quick little car. With induction, a header and a 100 shot it will go 13's easy With the 100 shot that little motor will be making about 275 hp in a very light car in comparison. You'll probably get the launch because your rear wheel drive, but he'll probably suck you up in second and just keep goin. Good luck, but dont race him.

i had one with only a 55 shot and i can tell ya, if you race him, don't put money down unless you're feeling VERY lucky.

Pretty much my sentaments too ;) Dont put down money but I'd take him on a similar 1/8th run only to get the jump :)

First question:
Does he actually HAVE those mods or his he spewing bull crap?
(Typical for ricers)

Get some practice at the track, run him in the 1/8 and get a good launch....

My bet is he'll nail it in first with the NAAWWWSS, blow his 60 foot all to hell, and not have enough room to catch up by the traps.
(Hell, those stock civic tires weren't exactly made for putting power to the ground...)

Just don't run him on the freeway...

My next response to him would be:
"Pretty sad that you need a 100 shot of nitrous to have a chance..."

Like I said in another post. I can strap a rocket to a roller skate, doesn't mean I want to drive it...
:D

Not sure what your setup is, but I can say this with confidence; I wouldn't be afraid to race him whatsoever.

I ran a civic with a Nitrous, I don't know how big it was, I would guess no less than a 50 shot.

In my 95 GT, with 2.73 gears, and a BAD stock MAF, I took him all the way. I wasn't pulling hard on the guy, but I would have won 1/8th or 1/4.

But there is a big difference between a regular civic and a Civic Si.

My brother had a Civic Ex(127hp) with a 55shot of nitrous and he was still slower then my stock Civic Si(160hp)

Why?! I got more rev and better gearing!

Its time for a pro-m MAF Cam...

Heck, Its BEEN time... ;)

I have a Pro-M 75 mm unit now (well Granitelli).

My car needs a lot of stuff, I just don't have the money to do it here in Canada :(

Hey, I called you tonight, and you weren't home. Robyn sounded tired though.

Run the dude. He might be lying about his mods and he might not. Never hurts to find out.

Tell the dude you want to see underneath his hood and see if what he's saying is true. That may make him back down.

Daniel.

i would think it would take some internal work for the Si to handle a 100 shot...i raced an integra LS with 85 shot and he had no chance...9.4 1/8th's i doubt the Si is spryin that much and how well he can control it will be another issue ,but you need to beable to put down a 13.9 1/4 to do ok and his 12.9 just goes to tell you how full of **** he is....better make it a 200 shot 12.9 jeeze...now if he strips to whole interior maybe...maybe

I agree a stock B16A2 will not last very long with 100shot!

I agree but have a different suggestion.

Run him straight up. Make a couple passes if it's close. If so, see where his weakness is and exploit it. If you're better from a dead stop then insist on those type runs. If you get beat consistently be a good sport and congratulate him on his faster ride and acknowledge defeat. No shame in it. What is is what is. There's ALWAYS someone faster than you, even if it's a rare ricer.

As far as exploiting weaknesses when I ran my 1st Lightning it was a tough go for me from a 40 mph roll, that's his strength. I slowly pulled on him but not good enough to satisfy me. He was proud of his accomplishment and I took advantage of his pride. My car's superb at launches from a dead stop so I challenged him to a run from a red light. He eagerly agreed not expecting a plain white '89 T/A to CATAPULT off the line like a jet fighter leaving an aircraft carrier. I had'em by 2 car lengths just leaving the intersection and he was disposed of in short order.

Another strategy I use when racing cars with manual transmissions is to get them from a dead stop too. Most can't launch without smoking the tires. Their adrenalin and heart are racing, they're eager to win, revving their engines and BAM pop the clutch and the tires go up in smoke while I'm hooking up and GONE.

Moral; go race'em and give that ricer a little "what for" of American Muscle. Go for $20, not a big deal if you lose, but make sure it's agreed that it's a best of 3 back to back. Go get'em and good luck.

Re: Ricer says he can beat me with 100 shot...
 

12.9? :rolleyes: Yeah, sure.

Everybody overestimates their own car. Then they go to the strip and make excuses why they didn't run what they thought they could. I think he'll be lucky if he gets into the 13s.

Race him, like the Turbo Trans Am guys said.

theres this kid at my school that has an 80's model Civic SI with a b16 moter or whatever in it. he was talking all this **** saying that his ricer is the fastest one bla bla bla. i raced him in my mustang twice after school. the first time, i beat him by about a half a car length, then the secound time we went from about a 30mph roll on, he floored it first, then I and we were about dead even, up to about 60, then i started to real him in slowly, but there was a car in his lane and he had to shut it down. i would have defanitaly beaten him if we kept goin. shows ya how much american cars are better than imports. a `94 v6 with 160,000miles on it can still beat a freakin light *** modded civic, truely sad, i bet he thought he was truely fast too.

-BAleR-

CONVERTABLE none the less.

And just imagine if you had a 5.0L V8 :)

sounds like BAIeR is formulating, or at least reinforcing his opinion off some schoolboy in an 80's honda with a hackjob engine swap........

find some imports built right and driven by people that know what they are doing and see how much better you 6 cylinder is

i'll even point you in the right direction: SCCA

find your region, then look up Solo II if you are just getting started.......you'll meet guys worth talking to that drive both imports and domestics

i once ran a 92? SI hatch with a b16 in it, he also had headers, exhaust, nitto DR's, and a 65 shot....

he kicked my mustangs *** when it was stock.

now i am on mickey thompsons and a 100 shot, needless to say, i got my 5 bucks back!

The problem with those swap is that the engine they swap in there are 10-12 years old! Some old crap first gen B16A1. Of course the shop who sell you the engine will tell you it got less then 30 000miles. But we all know thats bullsh!t! ;)

If the swap is correctly done with all the parts it should have. A civic hatch 1990 with a Stock B16A1 should run high 14s, flat 15s!

If he swap a B18C1 ou a B16A2 (Civic Si 99-00) now thats another story. My friend with a stock B16A2 ran 14.38 in a 1992 civic cx!

My friend with a stock JDM H22A in a civic coupe ran 13.5 on slicks!

Civics with swap can be quick... if its done right!

He is right. I raced a stock one in my SHO this year. It went a 15.50@90 and the kid didnt look a day older than 16. If he DOES have a 100 shot, who knows.

I would have to say you would kill him off the line, youll kill him even more if he hits his nawwssszzzz. He will try to be sweet and launch at like 6 grand, and his litle pizza cutter front tires will spin like mad. Quite frankly, a 100 shot seems a little much for that little 1.6? to handle. Ive seen them with 30 and 50 shots, but never a 100 on a stock engine. Hell we have to start upgrading fuel systems after about a 125 shot. Id love to hear what happens with this race. - John

tick..tick...tick...."whats that???" OH, MY POOR LITTLE HONDA IS DETONATING!!!!"

I was talking to this guy a year ago or so and he was telling me how his freind was running a 300 WHP on his stock civis with juice. Of course he went on to tell me that he "hung" with a Porsche 911 Tubo to 170 MPH in his Stock Toyota Celica :rolleyes:

5 bucks! LOL

The fact that you lost the 5 bucks in the first place is unacceptable.

put it this way if the kid is spraying a 100shot it is not going to last long. Around my town there is not much other than ricers and let me tell ya they are fast ricers too. Most of the ricers around here are the little baby shoes straped with a fat turbo or nitrous... I hang around with alot of them because there are not many other car guys around here... All of the ricers i talk to around here do not spray more than 75shot with out internal engine work. If you think about it what are most people spraying in stock mustangs... 100hp-150hp and we have 4 more cylinders to feed. I think that guy is pushing the bs.....
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why are they "ricers", drtbiker?

beacuse just like 99% of domestic guys, he's single-minded and refers to any import car, regardless of whats done to it or who's driving it, as rice/ricer. it's pathetic imo.

na that is just what i call them around here i am not against them nor do i down them.. I think it is impressive that a 4cylinder motor can put out that much power


not trying to start anywars

just my wording
like some call it dinner some call it supper

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since it often bears negative connotations, many find the "ricer" term offensive

i wonder why some people call all imports ricers even the ones that dont come from japan, i mean i always thought they were called rice because they were relating them to the japanese because they eat alot of rice????ya got me....:D