RX-7 Laughing stock of Track
 

Went to the track last night. A lot of fast cars out. Most cars were running 8's down to 5.0's in the 1/8th.

The funniest thing was there was an RX-7 out, He didn't crack the 10 second barrier even once! His buddy had an Acura (I don't know what model, don't care) he broke into the high 9's once or twice.

What was so funny was that the RX-7 ran a big dually dodge truck (80's vintage) and LOST!! LOL, people were laughing for like 5 minutes after. It was great.

Hammer was running some good times, but he was having a hell of a time getting traction, but I'll let him post his times :)

That's damn funny!!! But no joke, I have seen a modified powerstroke run 113 mph in the quarter. No Sh**, saw it with my own eyes. Granted the ET was crap, but once the turbo spooled up, that damn thing was haulin!!! I guess people in Kentucky get really bored.

My grandpa has a new Dodge pickup. Extended cab and the turbodiesel engine. It's a ******* straight 6. With a turbo. It just amazes me that a 6 could make the power that thing does. From a standstill if you punch it you will not keep traction, it will screech immediately then after about 10 yards the tires will be completely loose. It's not fast by any means, but it's torquey as heck. My cousin and I got to fart around with it a lot this summer. We worked for his contracting company so he let us take it on trips to get materials and stuff like that.

I HATE the smell of diesel.:mad:

that must have been an older non turbo rx7. My bf wants a hard to find 93 yellow with black interior rx7

It was the newest generation RX-7. It was silver with a big fart pipe. It was so slow I thought it was non-turbo also, but I didn't think they made an NA version of the latest Generation RX-7.

The guy totally sucked at driving too. He bogged off the line everytime. I think he was shifting way to early. Anyway The best I saw him run was like a 10.1 in the 1/8th.

They did make the newest models of RX-7's in non-turbos. Actually it's harder to find one with a turbo than not. You've got to admit though, they are sharp looking cars. I like the curves. Almost like a Vipers. But if this guy was bogging and shifting early... it's no wonder he was getting spanked. Those wenkels (rotorary motors) are non exsistant under 5 grand. The way to get any power out of those is to rev the crap out of them.

if it was the newst years It is alest a low 14 to High 13's He needs to learn to drive!!!!!!

Actually,

The last generation of the RX7 was only available in the states with the twin sequential turbos. There was the R1 and R2 version. The R1 had a much more road race set-up, and the R2 had the killer stereo.

A 93 would have to be twin turbo, and driven well, they go pretty deep into the 13s. If I remember correctly, around 13.6 stock.

The Gen III RX7 TT was a 14 flat car. Trap speeds right about 100mph even.

It had a very good hole shot potential due to the 2800lb curb weight, but the car really fell off about 80mph or so. Race one with a bone stock fox body GT from 80-120. The GT will beat it with a competent driver.

Rated 255hp, 217lb/ft. The thing to note is the really narrow powerband on those cars. The keep accelerating to a higher top speed than the Mustang, but it's a drag thing, not a power thing. Their IRS robs more power than a solid axle car like the Mustang, so that's a big deal for RWHP. Also worth noting is they are junk after about 80,000mi. Kiss performance goodbye. That and reliability is rather poor, and when it does break, parts are super expensive. There's a reason that neat little car didn't sell for **** here....

According to the people on NoPistons.com the last generation RX7's came with and without turbos

rx7s didnt sell well??? HA WHAT KINDA CRACK ARE U SMOKING BOY. rx7s sold fine. at least u dont see an rx7 every other car like u do a mustang. stupid me 2 caRS. if u walk up to someone on teh street and they ask u what kinda car u have and u say mustang they are gonna say yeah me to! cuz everyone has those pos fartcans.

There is no doubt that they did come without turbo's because I was going to buy one way back when. But then I started hearing all the horror stories about the reliability and scrapped that. I actually ended up buying a 1991 Toyota MR2 Turbo. That was a much better choice. And no... I didn't have a fart-pipe on it. I had a very modest exhasut. It was actually too quiet to even sound like if was aftermarket.

Actaully, last summer, a buddy and I took a non turbo out for a test drive from a used car lot. It was the latest version. There has got to be an RX7 enthusiast website out there... they have a pretty decent following. I'm sure it would have more info on it.

Why was it discontinued here, bright boy? Some people should come with a defective stamp on their forehead, like yourself if you think the RX7 was a hot seller.

I'll give you the answer, Ford told Mazda to nix the damn thing cause they couldn't sell it for a profit. Car companies do not nix a popular flagship model that is selling well and making money.

Just to be clear:
The first gen RX-7 (79-85) was non-turbo only in the US.
The 2nd gen (86-91) was available as either turbo or non-turbo.
No new cars were brought over to the US by Mazda in '92.
The 3rd gen (93-95) was available only as a sequential twin-turbo.
The RX-7 continues to be sold in Japan.

A third gen hitting 10s in the 1/8 either has something wrong with it or the driver doesn't know how to shift, which by the original description its the latter.

ok genious learn to read before you respond next time.... i said it sold fine... no where in my reply did it say that it was "popular" or was a great seller. i said it sold fine now go back to preschool and learn to read.

Look, bigtime. You ask me if I'm smokin crack cause I say the RX7 didn't sell. You also say "sold fine." It did not sell "fine." Like I said, it sold like ***. Which was why it was discontinued here.

Hot seller is pretty open for interpretation, and the tone you set comes across as my statement is completely false. Here, let me spell it out for you a little more.

Car companies do not discontinue "fine" selling profitable flagships without replacement models lined up.

I read your post, but quite frankly, I don't give people **** for credit when they come surfin around trolling for a reason to be a dick when their favorite car is insulted.

sorry i can't understand you i don't speak redneck. learn english and try again.

On behalf of all rational RX-7 owners, let me say that we, like most other enthusiasts, realize the shortcomings of our favorite car. By the time the 3rd gen came out, prices had skyrocketed, it was difficult to find a mechanic that understood rotaries so support was limited, the cars were abused leading to what I think is an undeserved bad reputation (while shopping for a 3rd gen, I found too many stupid owners that had turned up the boost without the appropriate fuel and ignition upgrades, which leads to detonation and a blown apex seal) so Mazda wasn't making sufficient money selling them in the US.

Me, I'm looking forward to the upcoming RX-8. With its rear suicide doors its a true 4 seater as can be seen in the attached pic, its supposed to have ~250hp, but a measly ~170lb-ft of torque. Hopefully in a year or two, they'll add forced induction, or maybe I'll just migrate the Paxton. :D

Peace

SuperchargedREX you seem like a very rational and decent person here and your input is helpfull.

bigtime however, seems to be a bigtime sore ***. WTF are you doing here? The whole "I dont speak redneck" deal is just plain LAME. Thats like me saying "sorry I dont speak chink, learn english and try again" Grow up.

I have yet to see an RX7 hit a 13 totaly stock but thats just me. Im sure it happended somewhere.

ROFLMAO! That is freaking hillarious. lol I gotta use that one sometime. lol
Either way back to the orignal post that was funny too. I gotta learn how to drive my car so I'm sure I will get laughed at when I take my car up to the track but I'm sure I am very capable to beat a truck. lol

Those RX7's aren't the fastest things in the world stock, but you know the potential of factory turbo cars....
There was one here last year running 13.2's at 109 mph in the 1/4 and was quiet doing it. :D

I know that RX-7's have some potential, but this guy driving this car = 10 + seconds in the 1/8th. My opinion is that the guy could not drive, but I don't know the whole story. I don't know what he had done to the car or anything. I just know that he couldn't get into the 9's.

Thanks for the intelligent input SCREX, you seem really cool, I hope you stick around and contribute here. We could all learn some things from you.

bigtime1148 with the redneck talk or whatever, go back to reading rice magazines and playing with your barbies.

You're welcome, and thanks!
 

Thanks for the invite. My temperment comes with age and experience, I'm not your typical 20-something riceboy RX-7 owner. I've been driving for over 20 years, and have had the pleasure to experience a lot of different cars, and understand their potential in both stock and modified states. Fundamentally, I'm a car nut, and I understand that all the same basic principals apply if you want to go fast, regardless of what type of car you drive. I also think that a lot of the import guys could learn a lot from the "old school" technology: nitrous, superchargers, turbochargers, bore and stroke, gearing; its all been done before so why re-invent the wheel? Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now. ;)

1969mach1
lets meet at the track and run each other our first runs so we look stupid at the same time
this spring will be my first trip to the strip
i'm gonna buy some et streets to ease the pain

SuperchargedRex - welcome to the board! :)

Overall, I love the stlying of the late model RX-7's. However, for the reasons stated above, I would not purchase one. The whole "no-piston" thing is just cool. I need to surf over to one of the RX-7 sites to learn about them. Neat stuff, if you ask me.

At our local track we have a beautiful red RX-7 that is there quite often. The owner seems pretty cool. He's put alot of money in the stereo, HUGE exhaust tip, awesome wheels, boost gauges, etc, etc. Anyways, I have seen him race on many occasions and I have not seen him crack into the 13's once. Each time I see him at the track I think that he has got to get into the 13's this time...but still can't. Not sure why. But his car is always very clean, has a nice stereo and some wheels that probably cost as much as my future ProCharger! :D

Take it easy,
E

I am from the NoPistons.com forum and they have this thread posted up there for us to view and i thought that i would just maybe say a few things about our cars.

-First your guys cars a great and all, but... about the 80 to 110 race, RX-7's are geared more for 0-60 times because of my next point.
-RX-7's are geared that way because they were ment more to be a track racing car than a drag car, in which your car accels at..
-A BIG reason RX-7's failed was because MAZDA dealers didn't have advanced technology enough to support them, something that no offense to anyone, hasn't been said about domestics.
-Another thing is that rotaries throw out a lot more harmfull emissions than you guys which is an accounting reason for their being slow stock.
- ANd last, just a little thorn in your side. The Siguel racing RX-7 is the world's quickest Pro Class Racer with a 7.33@ 179 m.p.h defeating the Hoyos Racing Ford Focus (with the mustang engine in it) with i must say a too close 7.389@ 189.1m.p.h. Yikes. Maybe next year guys!:D

P.S. Us turboed RX-7's get 59 HP out of a down pipe back exhuast. Muhhahahha:)

Yeah....and they STILL wont pull a 13 :D jk. Turbo cars always have a lot of potential. They come with a crutch from the factory. Wish I had the TDC twin turbo kit on my stang. Stage III can easily yeild 1200 hp as long as the seals hold:D

The emissions is a definate problem with the rotory engine. Actually, efficiency in general. Displacement vs fuel usage is pretty nuts. Of course the power to displacement is pretty huge as well. The RX7 doesn't actually get what I'd consider good fuel economy for a 2800lb car. My 3050lb Mustang 5.0 gets 19-21/27-29. Not too shabby for the equivelent in hp. We get 40hp from H pipe, exhaust, and timing, and removed silencer. ;) I think one of the important things to note is the expense of the RX7's exhaust too though. Hehe.

With twin sequential turbocharging 255hp out of 1.3L. If you drop it back to N/A, however, it becomes a lot less impressive.

Snowmobiles played with the wankel engine concept back in the early 70's. Ton's of advancements have allowed the rotory engine to get to it's peak, starting off from being humbled by the piston engines, even in terms of hp to displacement.

I will have to agree on the RX7 looking badass though. Other than a simple to fix cooling problem, if left alone you can expect relatively good reliability out of them from what I've been told. You'll never get the long term 160,000mi performance like my car has though.

You could argue back and forth all day. I could say that while factory turbo cars have great potential, we can add a $4k turbo kit, set it very conservative and make 450hp easy. Both cars have their strong and weak points.

PS. About the gearing comment, lol, don't even want to go there when comparing to a 5.0 Mustang. 2.73's and a wide ratio 5spd. LOL.

What did bigtime say? My browser doesn't support "RicerMagazine" text, and I don't feel like downloading the plug in.

Hmm, I always thought it was the other way around? Could be wrong here but I beleived the Rx7's esp. the 3rd gens were geared well for the 80-100 race, rather than the 0-60. if they were meant to be a 0-60 car then why not more torque? I had a few friends w/ them and they just wasnt impressive to say the least out of the hole shot. They were pretty quick from a roll however, and this is where I could actually see the car shine.
BTW, a 7.33,,pretty fast eh? esp 179mph, however the focus seems to have more potential with 189mph wouldnt you say? besides I dont think your "one race theory" here stands a chance when thinking rationally..LOL, I can name many times an Rx7 would lose to a mustang. BTW is that the fastest Pro Race class rx7? Might wanna check out pro 5.0 mustang class, which runs actual mustangs with mustang motors, and heavier than most rx7 track cars. Last I checked these cars were well into the 6.8's@ over 200mph, maybe faster but I havent checked back on them in a few months...LMAO
whatever dude Rx7's are a decent car, but they are NOT everything nor the greatest, maybe thats one of the reasons the WANKLE RX7 ( eghem) motored cars wasn't brought back into the U.S? Overpriced? unreliable? you tell me? And btw your not gonna win an import arguement on a mustang board coming over here posting 7.3 ET numbers from an Rx7 and laughing at how much your downpipe give your cars. I would be willing to be if I had a stock set of headers on my supercharged cobra that a set of long tube headers, equivalent to your downpipe would give me just as much hp and torque gain as your modification did.
Compare apples to apples not oranges to apples.
later
Dan
95 rio red cobra #2021

come on! havent you guys seen fast and the furious? i'll bet with dominic behind the wheel that mofo would be untouchable....

Like i tried to say before i didn't mean to put down anyone's car i just wanted to throw in my two cents. while yes our cars are not the best car in the world no, but I'm not trying to win anything in the mustang forum because that would be stupid to think that. I just don't want you guys thinking that any rx-7 you pull up to is gonna lose without a strong fight. And by the way about Paluka21's coments here. hmm how much did you pay for your car? and tell me when has mazda stopped producing the rotary engine? And oops i forgot what car is coming in 2003??? OHHHH! The RX-8 which has solved the emissions problems and has about ohh 245 hp naturally aspirated. while i will admit this engine has low torgue it will have a red line double yours. If i had a triple rotor thrown in my car its still a little under a 2liter engine that has a hell of a lot more torque. Mazda was the long time winner at Le Mans too with its quad rotor.
And acorrding to the august issue of TURBO Magazine, yes the RX-7 is the QUICKEST PRO STREET RACER.
My last point before i rationalize is MOST american companies researched the rotary engine in thought of replacing the piston engine for example GM had plans for a quad rotor corvette.

Sorry about venting but i had to get my points across to paluka.
the last thing i have to say is
Any car that you put money into can be fast. and there is always someone out there who is faster than you.

To be honest, I really don't understand how this thread has become such a debate. All aports cars have areas in which they excel. But its up to the driver to bring out the beast in it. I mean, you give a Viper to an SUV driving soccer mom, and you may be seeing 10s in the 1/8 with a lot of damage to the fenders as she sideswipes the rails down the track...

To be honest, a car as hyped as the RX-7, to go out to the track and get beaten by a stock dually truck... You deserve to get laughed at... period. I don't think any less of the car, but I'm gonna snicker at the driver....

Hell, I have the horsepower for a high 11-low 12 timeslip, and I was out there running equivelent to a 13.0 in the quarter....
Why?

1. Driver!
Its harder than you think to launch 380 at the wheels on 3.73s

2. Traction!
Good luck finding any traction at all in 1st or 2nd when you're still using stock size street tires and stock control arms. (2.2 60 foots are not impressive)

So what's my point?
You go to the track to see where you and your vehicle have problems and come back another day. And on that day the RX-7 sucked... period. No amount of "Well look at what so and so did with their RX-7.." can argue with a time slip

Run what you brung and deal with the result...

Have a nice day... ;)

Since we're on the subject of RX-7's, I got a question for the RX-7 guru's: My aunt has a 10th anniversary edition RX-7. It's all white, white wheels even. Sharp car, extremely clean with less than 20,000 miles on the dial. Anyways, we've talked a few times about who would win in a drag race between her RX-7 and my little 91 Coupe. She insists that she will roast me...I just don't think so.

So what does the 10th anniversary RX-7 run? I really don't know anything about the engine, except that I am pretty sure it has a turbo (I think).

E

Eric,
Compared to your car the 10th ann.is a joke. 14.8-15.2 at maybe 94mph. It is basically a turbo II with 188hp, only heavier with all the options. It is a nice car, I was looking at buying one.
Race for fun, but it will not even be close.

I think you should really take the time to read my first post more carefully, THEN post your remarks. IF you read my first post carefully, I did not state ALL rotary motors, I just said the RX7 wankle car is not brought into the U.S anymore, mainly because of inreliability, and overpriced japanese expectations. That could be my opinion, but it seems logical why there aren't more rotary motors, and alot of piston motors. And dont try to tell me the rotary motor is new cause its not, it has been in existence since when? before WWII? You can use all the excuses in the world, but they still don't seem feasable. What happened to the supra? same thing that happened w/ the RX7. You are not talking to an ignorant car enthusiast here, I may not know everything about my competition, however I do know enough.
Rx8 eh? who really cares about where it redlines...LMAO :rolleyes: is that supossed to make it a supercar or something? It NEEDS to redline that high to make any kind of power, and I DOUBT seriously it doubles my redline..lol. Maybe YOU should do some more reasearch on piston motors to know what your dealing with there bud. For example the DOHC cobra 4.6 motor redlines at 7K, so does that mean that this RX8's redline is at 14K? And that makes it a faster, better car? ( sorry but this is how you are coming across )
Ok, you want to compare pricing? how much do you really think I paid for my car back in 1995? Man I guess you think its more than your rx7 eh? Sticker price was $24.5, and I have a total of around $31K in the car. Supecharger, intercooler, aluminum heads, cam, exhaust, gears. Heck not too bad, I and I am pretty darn close to 500rwhp with this little bit of mods. And don't tell me for a second that the RX7 is cheaply modified, cause its not. Then again, most cars arent, but you see my point.
Yeah yeah, you could have a 3 rotor under your hood and make this amount of torque..but know what YOU DONT! So, dont refer to it if you don't have it. And if your trying to compare the 1.3L engine to a 5.0L engine, cmon I already told you " compare apples to apples not apples to oranges." A rotary motor at 1.3L cannot be compared to a 5.0, or 4.6, or even a 5.7L motor with pistons. They are two different concepts as I'm sure you know and need to be weighed differently, what scale are they weighed on, who knows? But that 1.3L bogus **** doesn't really fly in my opinion. They also come with twin turbos that make up a HUGE difference, and weight an ungodly 2800lbs..so we can throw in all the factors, but I dont really care to.
And yes your TURBO magazine might tell you one thing, but I'm not a magazine racer if you know what I mean. I guess this pro circuit or whatever your referring to must be compact cars or something, Im not real familiar with it, and yes I admit that I am not. Just seems odd that a lighter focus w/ a mustang motor can only muster a 7.3, when heavier larger cars with the same motor are cracking down mid 6's or so @ well over 200mph.
And yes I remember hearing about the Vette trying to get the rotary motor, either way it didnt, so thats not really a logical argument either. hell, for all of this, I can say that , "well, the 4.6L cobra could have gotten the 5.4L supercharged motor that cranks out over 550hp" but it didnt, so Im not gonna try to use this point, kinda pointless. BTW why didn't chevy use the rotary motor? did they have trouble getting the rights to it? I thought I remembered hearing thats what it was, but who knows?
All in all, you can still come over here in your passive aggressive attitude and say your not trying to put down a mustang, or say your not trying to make an RX7 look better, cause im my opinion, and most others they are not. If we wanted an Rx7, or really wanted to know "everything" about them we would either own one instead of our mustang ( well those of us who would throw down the cash to buy a used 93- that are still overpriced ) or we could go out and do research on them ourselves. Ive had the luxury of hearing about these cars for the last few years and my friends ranted and ravved about them. Guess what, The three guys who've owned the 3rd gens, no longer do! Two of the threes motors grenaded at low milage. I beleive the apex seal went in one of the motors possibly throwing chunks of metal into the turbos, so their prolly shot, the other guy's turbos went out early and had to have a replacement motor put in the car before this even happened. he sold it cause of too many repairs and just inconvenience. The other guy blew his motor up as well, and had the most modifications out of the three.
So, after me saying this, it may help to just save your breath on something more important than this topic, because no matter what you say there is always something that I or we can come back with, cause we are comparing oranges to apples, but this comparison does have a few things is common.
later
Dan
95 rio red cobra #2021

13.1's@106? LOL it won't even be close, you will destroy your aunt's car from anywhere she wants to race you, a roll, stop, whatever, cept maybe in the twisties. I think its time to go out and embarass her.
You have a high 12 second car there on slicks, cause mine went 13.1@106 on drag radials, 17" that is, and high 12's on 16" drag radials with a higher side wall and lower 60'. So your stang isn't a push over my any means.
later
Dan

YA ok this is hillarious, umm im not even going to get in this. But i am going to give you guys a website i saw or maybe 2.
http://www.mazdarx7.com/
http://www.nutsandvolts.com/rx7/
i hope this will help, but i think were already to deep in the discusion. lol

Hmm, I'm beginning to think we have some trolls on this board? All of a sudden we get a post about Rx7's and a few newcomers pop outta nowhere, showing rx7 stats and claiming to drive mustangs or whatever.
If you do have the 72 mach one, more power to ya! Either way I dont really care, I just think its funny defending an rx7 to the hilt on a mustang message board.
I alway said they are nice looking cars and pretty fast and handle decent too, just unreliable in their 3rd generation form it seems.
got any more cool stats? LOL

I totally agrea with you paluka, do not take my last post as like i was defending the rx7. I totally think the rx7 is unreliable. I have the mustang i can even show you a pic of me in it if you wanted, but do not take it that I am here to defend other cars or anything, I love the mustang and it will forever be my favorite car. I dont know why you drew these conclusions of defending a rx7? In fact all i did was give 2 website's that i searched for at altavista.com

EDIT. oh yah and if you dont beleive i have a mach 1 check the users rides section i put 2 pictures of the car at my house there. thank you

I feel the same way ;) I like the look of the cars, definetly sporty, but they just arent for everybody. My buddy plans on buying another 3rd gen and putting a V8 in it..lol. I guess that sums up the motor blues..hehe
I just took you the wrong way, my fault. I dont mind seeing someone defend their favorite car, or what they beleive is right, I just hate it when you get someone bragging how their car is better than someone elses.
But, I took a look at that Rx7 page, and it gives specs etc on them. not sure if those #'s are accurate or not. My friend w/ his 93 had a downpipe, apexi catback, and some type of intake mod and went 14.0@99mph with a 2.0 60'. Not too shabby if you ask me for those mods. This was also at a bad track, if it were at a better track that would have been 13.8's or so. This other guy I was referring to had an ECU, 13 or 14psi, full exhaust straight with midpipe, home made intake, some type of fuel system, pulley, and upgraded intercooler, he was only going low 13's I beleive but at like 114mph. So that car was definetly capable of low 12's on better tires.
anyways, sorry for the harsh greeting, welcome to the board
Dan

Hey its all cool man, Im glad that im not makin enimies here. ya that v8 should be interesting in a rx7 lol. donno what would happen?

Well for palukas points about it, Most motor companies ended their research on the rotary engine because of the energy crisis in the early 70's.
And yes i will agree with you on the point of third gens being bad. The 3 catalytic converters that mazda had to put on the 3rd gens caused so many boost spikes that it litterally blew the turbo's at 70k.

And as for the V8 conversion, say hello to hella torque. only problem is lots of frustration in puting it in and still very unreliable. Not to mention throwing off the whole 50/50 weight balance of the car.

But as for whoever said that whole thing about most of the car being about the driver is right. And i have too admit my car has plenty of soft points which i'm sure your cars are no where near to rivaling(not being sarcastic) but what can i say? The rotary engine grabbed me by the throat before any v8's could.


By the way i know how unreliable RX-7's can be. i'm almost 18 and already on my second one looking for a third. my first one blew its apex seals.

Oh and yes from what i have heard the redline should be up around the 14k mark.

I was wondering what happened to the rotary in the covette. See I always thought that they couldnt get rights to the motor, as mazda didnt have rights to it at that point either. ( from what I understood, but I could be wrong ) Either way a 3 or 4 rotor corvette which is what I thought it was supossed to be would be hella fast.
boost spikes, yeah..hehe I've heard my friends talk about them alot. The one guy who blew up his motor had a manual boost controller on the car, and was actually wanting the stock pills back so he wouldnt be getting boost spikes in cooler weather, as supossedly if the rotory motor goes lean at "ALL" its **** outta luck. Which is why I assume they throw flames when they have a straight exhaust. ( yep I've been there, my car is running WAY too rich )
I actually thought an LT1 V8 conversion would put the car at a near perfect 50/50 weight distribution, in a 3rd gen that is. My buddy said there have been people who've done it w/ success and it gives the car more wieght in the front where the 3rd gen needs it, as the lt1 motor only weights slightly heavier than the rotory. But ,this is just what he was telling me. However I can imagine that it would accelerate like mad, LT1 motor has 275 hp at the crank stock you put that in a 2800lb car w/ all that torque, its gonna more than likey be a high 12 second car, low 13's at the worst. seems to be very easy to make fast.
And yes, it seems that the RX7 performance has to do w/ driver, seems easier to launch a mustang since it has good torque, but when you have a car w/ little torque its easier to bog, or get the wheel hop the rx7 gets. ( man I've been hanging out w/ these rotary guys too much ) but these are the things that seemed to be their problem w/ the car. which is why the above looks like it does. intercooler, 14psi, ECU, full exhaust, pulley, fuel system, = low 13's @114mph.
Yeah it seems that the Rx7 motors are very high maintanance, and are unpredictable. My bud took great care of his, prolly just as good or better than my cobra and it grenaded at around 45k miles. He sold it online to some guy on his rx7 list he knows, or something with a blown motor as is.
BTw 14K redline, damn whats the point? why not make more torque for the car down low and take redline to 9K, seems like it would make more sense to me..unless your driving an indy car..hehe
later
Dan

LT1? WTF, LS1 son, if your doing the swap why put an LT1 in?:rolleyes:And I think you guys need to shut up, and stop bitching back and forth at each other, I'm sure everyones sick of it now.;)

There is a lot of wild speculation and false statements flying back and forth.

If you cannot launch a twin turbo RX7 that weighs only 2800lbs, then you're doing something wrong. You need to spool the turbos before you launch, that is where you get a great launch. Just like any small displacement turbo car.

As for a 14k redline, it's not gonna happen.

Layout: Longitudinal mounted front engine
Disp./Cylinders: 1.308 L 2-Rotor Wankel Rotary
Bhp@RPM: 250 @ 8500
Torque (lb.-ft.)@RPM: 153 @ 7500
Fuel System: Electronic Fuel Injection

Those are the specifications I pulled off

http://www.velocityjrnl.com/jrnl/200...l2429spec.html

With peak power coming in at 8500rpm, I seriously doubt a redline higher than 9k. Those numbers are EXTREMELY suggestive of performance in line with the S2000, except with the RX8 weighing in at a few hundred lbs more, it'll be very lucky to see a 13sec stock pass. Other totally speculative sites do not list the RX8's redline to be in excess of 10k, and why would it be?

The rotory engine has it's advantages, so do piston engines. I think the RX8 is a serious step backwards from the RX7. I think engine longevity will be poor in the RX8. Too bad we won't know for 10 years, if ever.

This site is dedicated to a piston powered car with a powerplant so incredibly different it's not even worth comparing the two on that level. The 7.3sec Pro Stock pass may be the fastest IMPORT pass. The Mustang Pro Stock class is well into the 6's. Car vs car, for the money, the Mustang is superior. It's why the Mustang is still here and the RX7 is not.

Ahhh, another import debate. Think this one has gone on long enough, I'm blue in the face from just reading.