S2000 vs. 2000GT

09-01-2002, 01:45 PM

my friend seems to think that the s2000 stock could kill a 00-02gt stock and i told him that the gt could take the it. i'm just going off the #'s i have herd. what do you guys think?

StoplightWarrior · 09-01-2002, 01:52 PM

If both cars are driven to the best of their ability, it would be VERY close....it really comes down to driver...Throw some mods on each car and the GT will win.

Hammer · 09-01-2002, 02:25 PM

3 out of 4 times the GT's going to get the best of the S2000....

MattwantsSpeed · 09-03-2002, 01:15 AM

Unfortunately, I think the S2000 would take the GT, not "kill" the GT but it would win with someone who knows how to drive. I've heard they are VERY difficult cars to launch and drive.

95mustanggt · 09-03-2002, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MattwantsSpeed
Unfortunately, I think the S2000 would take the GT, not "kill" the GT but it would win with someone who knows how to drive. I've heard they are VERY difficult cars to launch and drive.

Most people would say a GT would beat an S2000 for that very fact, very hard to launch. Waste of a car, IMO. 0 torque, you have to redline the freakin engine to get any power from it. But it is a fast little Freak.

Aquaman · 09-03-2002, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by StoplightWarrior
If both cars are driven to the best of their ability, it would be VERY close....it really comes down to driver...Throw some mods on each car and the GT will win.

Nice summation.

Dark_5.0 · 09-03-2002, 09:52 AM

I have beaten many a new GT. I have raced only one S2000 and that little Phucker stayed at my rear bumper all the way through the first 10ft or so then I smoked his @ss.

Most of the new GT's put up a way better fight than the S2000 did. Launching at 8000rpms and slipping the clutch cant be good for the car.

Later,

Lizard King · 09-03-2002, 09:52 AM

Been there... one of my good buddies bought an S2000.

Stock. His best time was a 13.72, allthough it was not consistant.
Stock. My best time was a 13.662 ... and fairly consistant.

We had more than a few runs, and not once did he take me... luck of the draw? Naw. The S2000 is not a good drag car. No torque at low RPMs means you have the rev the SOB up there and ride the clutch to get a good launch.

On the high way, he would have an edge in the 80-100MPH then I would get the edge from 100MPH to ~140MPH ... and then he would walk me.

*Steeda90GT* · 09-03-2002, 12:03 PM

Whats the top speed of the S2000?

Lizard King · 09-04-2002, 07:32 AM

Could be around 160MPH IMO.

*Steeda90GT* · 09-04-2002, 09:59 AM

So why would a S2000 walk a new GT from 140 on if the GT has the edge, Dont the GTs go to 150MPH(Limited)

Lizard King · 09-05-2002, 08:20 AM

The reason the s2000 starts walking at 225km/h (140MPH) is we shift in 5th, and RPMs drop at about 3700 at that point. From there on I have had the patience to hold it for about 5 miles and it drag it self up to 245km/h (151MPH).

So the car is a brick in the wind (with all the fake scoops and all) and it doesn't have the right gear to move up there.

The S2000 has better aerodynamics and 6 gears (the right ones) to move it up there.

*Steeda90GT* · 09-05-2002, 08:47 AM

So let's say a stock GT had a 6speed instead. Would it have the ability to reach higher speed, and accelerate faster at 40MPH? The new GTs are pretty aeordynamic in my opinion. Its not like the S2000 is shaped like a missle or anything, it's nothing special in the aero dept.

Sonics2042 · 09-05-2002, 06:09 PM

I dunno...I didn't think s2000s were that fast in the 1/4 mile. I would have thought closer to a 14.3 or 14.4...

My friend has a s2000 and he has gone 146 (he's crazy). Handles amazingly well for a convertible.

I would think that a 2000 GT would cream it, but if they run 13.7s...

Those cars (s2000) are meant to be driven like that...my friend drives like a madman, and the only evidence of it are the worn tires.

240 HP out of a 2 liter engine...not bad at all

. They are sweet cars and 0 torque is relative...actually has like mid-upper 150s which is still nothing

. I still think a 2000 GT should take it.

After I hit like 120 in my car, it gets real scary real fast! My top is 125 although I had plenty more RPMs left.

Thanks,
DoranW

The Deuce · 09-05-2002, 06:16 PM

I've driven a bunch of stuff pretty fast, and the most unsettling thing about the Mustang is the rear axle. At that speed the IRS makes a car feel much more stable, rightly or wrongly so.

With a more agressive gearing and a T-56 the Mustang would still beat the s2000 at speed. It's a matter of power and cd above 100 mph, but again I don't know the tunnel numbers for the cars either.

tireburner163 · 09-05-2002, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by *Steeda90GT*
The new GTs are pretty aeordynamic in my opinion

lol, here's a tasty little bit of info for you then. A 2002 Mustang GT and a Fox body both have the drag coeffcient.

Sonics2042 · 09-06-2002, 01:55 PM

And God knows my car wasn't designed with aerodynamics as a number 1 priority.

I wouldn't have thought the new GTs were that bad...anyone know what the best car since 87+ as far as aerodynamics?

Thanks,
DoranW

blue00gt · 09-06-2002, 06:51 PM

Tireburner - the new GT has the same COD as a Fox LX, but the Fox GT has more drag. Here are some numbers I looked up:
'89 GT 0.38
'89 GT Vert 0.40
'89 LX 0.34
'94 V6 0.32
'94 GT 0.34
'02 GT 0.34
Shelby Cobra 427 S/C 0.42
'02 Camaro Coupe 0.33
'02 Camaro Z28 0.34
C5 Coupe 0.29
C5 Vert 0.33
Z06 0.31

09-01-2002, 01:45 PM	#1
50DAVIDLX Guest Posts: n/a	S2000 vs. 2000GT my friend seems to think that the s2000 stock could kill a 00-02gt stock and i told him that the gt could take the it. i'm just going off the #'s i have herd. what do you guys think?

09-01-2002, 01:52 PM	#2
StoplightWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 1,311	If both cars are driven to the best of their ability, it would be VERY close....it really comes down to driver...Throw some mods on each car and the GT will win. __________________ Black 2000 GT Auto V2-SQ, Full Steeda G-trac Suspension, Baer Brakes, Saleen Body Kit, Corbeau CR1s, Chrome Cobra R's, etc, etc... 341rwhp, 338 torque 1994 Cobra #4343 Bolt on's only... Cofounder of Raccoon Racing

09-01-2002, 02:25 PM	#3
Hammer AKA "Dr. Evil" Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: South Fork Ranch Posts: 1,721	3 out of 4 times the GT's going to get the best of the S2000.... __________________ Uncle Sam "What the hell is up with all the gauges? Calling Captain Kirk, your ride awaits... Phasers on stun...."

09-03-2002, 01:15 AM	#4
MattwantsSpeed Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lakeland, Fl Posts: 224	Unfortunately, I think the S2000 would take the GT, not "kill" the GT but it would win with someone who knows how to drive. I've heard they are VERY difficult cars to launch and drive. __________________ 89 LX Hatch 5.0 5spd, alot of miles, terrible 2.73's, mac cai, pullies, Tri-Ax, 16* timing, elect fan, 3G alt Best to date: 14.331@97.46mph with 14*/stock fan/short belt and a 2.222 60' in 90 degree weather Waiting to put on Off road H and 1 5/8 headers Rice Hater's Club #36

09-03-2002, 09:52 AM	#7
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	I have beaten many a new GT. I have raced only one S2000 and that little Phucker stayed at my rear bumper all the way through the first 10ft or so then I smoked his @ss. Most of the new GT's put up a way better fight than the S2000 did. Launching at 8000rpms and slipping the clutch cant be good for the car. Later, __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

09-03-2002, 09:52 AM	#8
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	Been there... one of my good buddies bought an S2000. Stock. His best time was a 13.72, allthough it was not consistant. Stock. My best time was a 13.662 ... and fairly consistant. We had more than a few runs, and not once did he take me... luck of the draw? Naw. The S2000 is not a good drag car. No torque at low RPMs means you have the rev the SOB up there and ride the clutch to get a good launch. On the high way, he would have an edge in the 80-100MPH then I would get the edge from 100MPH to ~140MPH ... and then he would walk me. __________________ NEW CAR! - 2002 GT TrueBlue - Best Stock ET - 13.77 Old Lizard - 2000GT Electric Green - Best ET STOCK: 13.662 @ 100.2MPH

09-03-2002, 12:03 PM	#9
Steeda90GT Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 297	Whats the top speed of the S2000? __________________ 94 Oxford White GT. 17" Factory wheels with 275/40/17 Nitto Drag Radials. Vortech S-Trim, Anderson Power Pipe, 24lb injectors, T-Rex external, 190lph internal, 3.55s, 65mm TB, Pro M 77mm MAF, Pro 5.0 shifter, Saleen Gauges, Crane ignition, MAC longtubes, catalytic h-pipe, flowmasters.

09-04-2002, 07:32 AM	#10
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	Could be around 160MPH IMO. __________________ NEW CAR! - 2002 GT TrueBlue - Best Stock ET - 13.77 Old Lizard - 2000GT Electric Green - Best ET STOCK: 13.662 @ 100.2MPH

09-04-2002, 09:59 AM	#11
Steeda90GT Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 297	So why would a S2000 walk a new GT from 140 on if the GT has the edge, Dont the GTs go to 150MPH(Limited) __________________ 94 Oxford White GT. 17" Factory wheels with 275/40/17 Nitto Drag Radials. Vortech S-Trim, Anderson Power Pipe, 24lb injectors, T-Rex external, 190lph internal, 3.55s, 65mm TB, Pro M 77mm MAF, Pro 5.0 shifter, Saleen Gauges, Crane ignition, MAC longtubes, catalytic h-pipe, flowmasters.

09-05-2002, 08:20 AM	#12
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	The reason the s2000 starts walking at 225km/h (140MPH) is we shift in 5th, and RPMs drop at about 3700 at that point. From there on I have had the patience to hold it for about 5 miles and it drag it self up to 245km/h (151MPH). So the car is a brick in the wind (with all the fake scoops and all) and it doesn't have the right gear to move up there. The S2000 has better aerodynamics and 6 gears (the right ones) to move it up there. __________________ NEW CAR! - 2002 GT TrueBlue - Best Stock ET - 13.77 Old Lizard - 2000GT Electric Green - Best ET STOCK: 13.662 @ 100.2MPH

09-05-2002, 08:47 AM	#13
Steeda90GT Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 297	So let's say a stock GT had a 6speed instead. Would it have the ability to reach higher speed, and accelerate faster at 40MPH? The new GTs are pretty aeordynamic in my opinion. Its not like the S2000 is shaped like a missle or anything, it's nothing special in the aero dept. __________________ 94 Oxford White GT. 17" Factory wheels with 275/40/17 Nitto Drag Radials. Vortech S-Trim, Anderson Power Pipe, 24lb injectors, T-Rex external, 190lph internal, 3.55s, 65mm TB, Pro M 77mm MAF, Pro 5.0 shifter, Saleen Gauges, Crane ignition, MAC longtubes, catalytic h-pipe, flowmasters.

09-05-2002, 06:09 PM	#14
Sonics2042 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 381	I dunno...I didn't think s2000s were that fast in the 1/4 mile. I would have thought closer to a 14.3 or 14.4... My friend has a s2000 and he has gone 146 (he's crazy). Handles amazingly well for a convertible. I would think that a 2000 GT would cream it, but if they run 13.7s... Those cars (s2000) are meant to be driven like that...my friend drives like a madman, and the only evidence of it are the worn tires. 240 HP out of a 2 liter engine...not bad at all . They are sweet cars and 0 torque is relative...actually has like mid-upper 150s which is still nothing . I still think a 2000 GT should take it. After I hit like 120 in my car, it gets real scary real fast! My top is 125 although I had plenty more RPMs left. Thanks, DoranW __________________ What I have: 1990 Red Mustang 5.0 LX: [BBK X-Pipe]-[MAC Cat-Back Exhaust] [MAC Cold Air Intake]-[BBK Equal Shorties] [3.55 Gears]-[Cobra Intake Manifold (Upper and Lower] [E-303 Cam]-[Granetelli Mass Air Flow Sensor] [Front and rear sway bars]-[New black carpet and seats.] [Adjustable Fuel Regulator]-[T5 Conversion w/ K. Cobra Clutch/Hurst STS] [Cobra Throttle Body]-[130A Alt. Conversion] Thinking about: Aftermarket Heads! Vortech A-Trim

09-05-2002, 06:16 PM	#15
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	I've driven a bunch of stuff pretty fast, and the most unsettling thing about the Mustang is the rear axle. At that speed the IRS makes a car feel much more stable, rightly or wrongly so. With a more agressive gearing and a T-56 the Mustang would still beat the s2000 at speed. It's a matter of power and cd above 100 mph, but again I don't know the tunnel numbers for the cars either. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

09-06-2002, 01:55 PM	#17
Sonics2042 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 381	And God knows my car wasn't designed with aerodynamics as a number 1 priority. I wouldn't have thought the new GTs were that bad...anyone know what the best car since 87+ as far as aerodynamics? Thanks, DoranW __________________ What I have: 1990 Red Mustang 5.0 LX: [BBK X-Pipe]-[MAC Cat-Back Exhaust] [MAC Cold Air Intake]-[BBK Equal Shorties] [3.55 Gears]-[Cobra Intake Manifold (Upper and Lower] [E-303 Cam]-[Granetelli Mass Air Flow Sensor] [Front and rear sway bars]-[New black carpet and seats.] [Adjustable Fuel Regulator]-[T5 Conversion w/ K. Cobra Clutch/Hurst STS] [Cobra Throttle Body]-[130A Alt. Conversion] Thinking about: Aftermarket Heads! Vortech A-Trim

09-06-2002, 06:51 PM	#18
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	Tireburner - the new GT has the same COD as a Fox LX, but the Fox GT has more drag. Here are some numbers I looked up: '89 GT 0.38 '89 GT Vert 0.40 '89 LX 0.34 '94 V6 0.32 '94 GT 0.34 '02 GT 0.34 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C 0.42 '02 Camaro Coupe 0.33 '02 Camaro Z28 0.34 C5 Coupe 0.29 C5 Vert 0.33 Z06 0.31 __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

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