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Should I be afraid?? 94-96ish Z28(not LS1)
I raced one when I had the AOD and kept right up with him, but I don't know anything about the car.
Everybody keeps telling me they're very fast, and I kind of fear getting my a$$ kicked. Does anybody know what they run. Should I be able to take them now that I have 3.55's ------------------ 90LX Ragtop. 14.7@95.3 Strut tower brace, K&N, 2.25'' Flowmasters, Hollow cats, Crank pulley, Crane 2031, Crane rockers, Holley FPR, 155lph, Heavy duty clutch, and alum quadrant. Need Gears Bad!!! |
well all the people you talk to must be full of $hit cause i used to beat those camaros all the time when i ran mid 14s there not very fast. my has a 96 6 speed z28 with drag lights w/nitto drags, 4.10s, MTI heads, and an lt4 hotcam and he can barely beat stock ls1s. hes a good driver too.
------------------ 1995 gt convertible: 3.55 gears, underdrive pulleys, cobra intake , fenderwell cold air, 65mm throttle body, 75mm mass air meter, off-road h pipe, borla cat back, custom diablo chip, 155lph fuel pump rpms, yokohama a520(drag radials) 275s |
depends on the car amd the driver.. brothers 94 firehawk has gone 13.90@103 bone stock with 70k miles... and a 2.4 60ft.. soo... good luck...some are pretty quick ;-)
------------------ 84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer 3.55's, underdrives stock shorties stock cam, 1.7's 14.06@100.21, 255RWHP on a hot day 265 on the mph/weight chart |
I have one and its true some are quicker than others lucky for me I have one of the faster ones http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif It depends on your launch if you can get the hole shot you should be able to hold them off.
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i had a 96 t/a with a auto and it dyno like 290 a rear tires at mti with a programer borla cat back it dyno around upper 260 stock at tires the car ran its best in dec @ 13.34 on street tires so the can and well run by the way i know a girl with a6 speed that ran 1300's witha 373 gear my car had 342's
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I think your mid 14's might not be enough to hang w/ LS1's. Although it depends on the driver......how well does his guy drive? I wouldn't be afraid.....it's only a race - you never know what the outcome is gonna be.
Good luck. ------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 30# injectors; JMS Chip; 190 lb fp; TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113) |
My 95 Z is a dog, but look at what it is comaed to....lol
------------------ Dustin 89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp UNTUNED(TFS Intake, spacer,Heads and #2 cam, BD-11A 9#(only boosting 6???WTF),1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MSD 6BTM,FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes and H-Pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55 lots more... 12.564@118.49 on street tires is my best so far. Still untuned |
i wouldnt be affraid unless the had nitrous or a hell of a lot of motor work, they're dogs... go after the LS1s
------------------ My slo aod- 3.73s, pullies, flowmasters, h-pipe, bbk cold air, and 13.42 in the 1/4 @ 103 mph |
oh and who cares if you lose...? its only a race. just have fun, never be affraid to lose (except for $$$) i've been smoked by supercharged mustangs, an el camino (dont tell anyone), and a few pro stock cars, but i always had fun
13secvert- your friends 96 sounds slo for all the mods... what does it actually run in the 1/4? ------------------ My slo aod- 3.73s, pullies, flowmasters, h-pipe, bbk cold air, and 13.42 in the 1/4 @ 103 mph |
Funny you mention that, i just got back from the track and i raced a 96 lt1, his best was 14.30's @99mph, he had me on mph but i was running 14.0's and 14.1's all night but @ 96-97, he was cool, he said he had exhaust headers to catback and k@n, he was like you must have alot of work done to your car, i was like "nope just a coldair and elctrc fan" http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif oh my 60' was around 2.0 and 2.1 it was sooooo humid outside, and his 60' was 2.3's, thats where i was gettin him, he definately had more hp.
so i say run him, but cut good reactions and 60's, thats where i get all camaros even ls1's but those cars start pulling hard about mid track to trap 104-106 mph http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/eek.gif ------------------ 90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,ADS chip (not yet track tested),3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 98.17 Best 60': 1.9607 next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe |
They can be pretty quick. I lined up against a '95 Z-28 last night at HRP. He was heavily modded with heads, cam, exhaust, 3200 stall converter and I don't know what else. He ran a 12.57 to my 14.05.
I have beat stock ones on the street a couple of times. I agree with 90dpscoupe. I think stock, they probably run 14.3 or so. Might be a tight race. But what the heck, it'll still be fun. Anyone who races much is gonna get beat occasionally if he races anything worthwhile. Have fun but be careful. Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi. |
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That's not too bad. I'm really not that worried about it, it's not like I won't race him if I think he's faster. I just wanted to know where I stood.
I was playin around with another one the day before I put in the new rear. It had BORLA in 2 foot letters down the side of his car, but other than that it was sweet lookin. He wouldn't race me from the stoplight, but around 50 he started coming up on me. I kind of got a jump on him and he stayed about three cars back up to about 120, but I wasn't trying to go any faster on the road we were on. (stock suspensions suck) I gotta say though when he passed me, those borla pipes sounded tight, but when I heard him cruising at 30mph it sounded awful. Real tinny sounding. |
It depends. Can he drive? Is it a 6 speed?
I ran a best of 13.79@102mph with my 95 6-speed when it was totally 100% stock including filter. I averaged 13.9@101 when stock though. They produce max torque at 2300rpm so they are VERY hard to launch well. Drive well and you should take him. Take care, Jason ------------------ SHP RACING http://www.shpracing.com/images/shp_logo.gif http://www.shpracing.com/images/cars.gif www.SHPRACING.com Hang on for the ride of your life! |
THE LS1 WILL GET YOU IF HE CAN DRIVE IT.MOST OF THE LS1 ,S ARE SPINNING THRU THE 60 FOOT LIGHTS THEN SHORT SHIFTING TO SECOND GEAR,THATS THE REASON YOU SEE THEM PULLING SO HARD AT MID TRACK REVING TO 5500 THRU THE GEARS AND RUNNING 13.50 1 RIGHT BEHIND THE OTHER NO BIG SECRET ON DRIVING.THESE CARS ARE BEGGING FOR SLICKS.IF THEY HAVE THE B F G RACE RADIALS DONT EVEN TRY UNLESS YOU ARE A HEAVY WIEGHT YOUR SELF.
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Hey SL67, it was an LT1 rather than an LS1. Quite some difference there from my experience. Maybe .5 seconds in the ET. Sock/stock anyway.
Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi. |
I think it's funny that everyone is saying 95,96 Z28's are "dogs". They have 285 hp. Everyone has there opinion I suppose, I guess it's kinda like one of friends the other day telling me a new viper runs mid 13's. Believe what you want to believe, I'm not taking up for camaro's. As far as Lt1 vs. Ls1, The lt1 in the camaro(285hp)and the Ls1 in the new camaro Z has 310hp. But I think with your 3:55's if you get the start you should win. Good luck and be careful. =P
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Hey BAD, what's your guess on stock LT1 Camaros? I'm not trying to low ball them. Low 14's seems right to me, but as I've mentioned , mid 12's are possible with a lot of mods. I mainly am interestested in stock times. anything is possible with mods.
Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi. |
Now i agree with rev, with mods are different, 285 hp and that heavier car, it would even out to my weight hp ratio, but the stang gets the holeshot, depending on driver, i would say that guy coulda beat me, because we had some very close runs, but he had modified exhaust i didnt, but he had poor 60ft's, but still i pulled hard thru 2nd still putting lenghts.
------------------ 90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,ADS chip (not yet track tested),3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 98.17 Best 60': 1.9607 next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe |
Hey blkrain, if you read this, whats up http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif, you been busy i guess, but we had a good time on fun ford at RCR, you need to get out there another day, a nicer day, and get some good times, i know your car will hit 12's with the nos, that car can launch pretty goood on those street tires...peace
------------------ 90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,ADS chip (not yet track tested),3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 98.17 Best 60': 1.9607 next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe |
Saleen/Dustin.....wow, that 1/4 and trap time (12.5 @118) on street tires is outrageous.....what's your secret?
------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL box w/ blaster 2 coil; Motorsport E303 cam; Pro-M 75mm MAF; BBK 70mm TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside welded subs; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass turbo hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; 2 chamber Flos; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 30# injectors; JMS Chip; 190 lb fp; TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113) |
Not sure, low 14's? mid 14's? It all depends on when and where, and driver.
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With a good driver or a auto the Lt1 will put up a good fight but most of the people I have come across on the street suck on launching so most of the Lt1s I have raced run in the low 14 range I would say. Last night I raced a friend in his 5.0 and he runs in the 14.2 range I went on his move and he would get me by a car and by the end of the 1/4 I had 1 1/2 to 2 cars on him. So you should give most Lt1s a good fight.
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Yeah, and that 310hp rating is real accurate http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/rolleyes.gif
I've taken all the LT-1's I've come up against. It's always been a decent fight from them, I can only put 2-4 cars on em, and after the begining triple digits they start in with the advantage. Everybody has seen the fast LT-1, except me. I've raced 3 LS1's, never to triple digits. I've won all three of those races, two have been nearly dead even, one was a blowaway from 5-70. |
Actually, I raced my friends LT1 '96 Camaro for the first time on saturday. The first time I bogged and he spun too much and I got almost 2 carlengths by the beginning of second when he missed second (grinded) and gave up. On the second race we both spun too much and we were running dead even and I guess we hit a small gravel patch and both spun bad in second so I let off (too dangerous). On the third race we both got great launches (no spin at all, but no bog) and we ran even with him not pulling and me neither (except when he shifted and vice/versa) but he edged me out with my bumper at his front wheels at 80 mph. I was surprised. I thought I would need to get the jump from the start on him in order for me to hang but I guess not. Im gonna get some DR later though and stop running on these Dunlop SP5000's Ultra-Highperfomance All-Season's.
------------------ 1993 Mustang GT - March Ram Air & Pullies, K&N, C&L 73mm MAF, 3.73 Gears, Super Competition Hooker Headers, 2 1/2 in. High Flow H-Pipe & Cat Back, Pro 5.0 Shifter, 16* Timing Advance, 8.5mm MSD Plug Wires |
Hey Unit, were you being sarcastic when ou said that 310hp is real accurate? Because if you are, it really is pretty accurate. The new Ls1 camaro's are puttig down like 290-300 rear wheel horsepower all stock. Good thing most of the people that own them don't have gears in them. =P I've also beaten all but one Lt1 camaro I have raced. But he had a 383 with a vortech. =P See ya.
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I think he meant they are under-rated. Most 2000 LS1's are dynoing at 300rwhp which means about 345 at motor. ------------------ SHP RACING http://www.shpracing.com/images/shp_logo.gif http://www.shpracing.com/images/cars.gif www.SHPRACING.com Hang on for the ride of your life! |
You are correct, very sarcastic. The LS1's are way underrated.
To my understanding the LT1 was slightly underrated (I'm not sure on that). So were the 5.0 Cobra's. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif |
stock LS1s usually run anywhere from 12.80 to 13.60 around here, and stock LT1s usually go 13.80 to 14.40. i am always very picky when trying to pick on an LS1. they simply haul *** .
------------------ My slo aod- 3.73s, pullies, flowmasters, h-pipe, bbk cold air, and 13.42 in the 1/4 @ 103 mph |
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