89 lx vs 88 GTA

stevstum · 08-03-2001, 11:39 AM

I was wondering who would win me or the GTA. Both are stock except the GTA has a flowmaster on it. It has the 350 and I read that it has about the same HP as mine does. I have just heard that the GM thirdgens with a 350 are faster than a mustang. Do I have a shot at beating him.

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Steve Stumbaugh

89 LX 5.0 5sp.
Removed air silencer
Motorcraft 8mm wires
Autolite platinum plugs
BBK O/R h-pipe

onefastlx420 · 08-03-2001, 12:13 PM

i once raced a slightly modified gta in my brothers all stock including air silencer 90 lx notchback i got my *** handed to me, not to make an excuses but i also had two other people in the car with me and he was by himself good luck

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89lx cocaine white,cobra wing/emblems,chrome 18in cobra r's/nitto xtremes, gt40 longblock from ccm,forged pistons,f303,1.6 rockers,performer rpm intake,70mm tb,75mm bullet,bbk fenderwell induction,24#inj,190l pump,bbk fuel pressure regulator,140amp alt,msd ignition/disributor,aluminum 3 row radiator,bbk shorty's,off road h pipe,flowmasters,king cobra clutch,world class t-5,3.73's,strut tower brace,subframe connectors

89 Cobra LX · 08-03-2001, 12:26 PM

I've beaten a GTA before by a few car lengths. At the time I had a K&N, underdrive pulleys, headers, off-road pipe, 3-chamber Flowmasters and 3.73 gears.

I don't think a stock 5.0 will take a stock GTA. Get some gears and you'll beat him all day.

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Eric - 89 Mustang LX coupe
302 - Cobra Intake - GT40p heads - TFS stage 1 cam - FRPP 1.6 roller rockers - Naturally Aspirated
3:73 gears - KYB shocks and struts - Eibach springs - HPM Mega-bite Jr lower control arms - HPM upper control arms

onefastlx420 · 08-03-2001, 12:30 PM

hey cobra lx didthose gt 40p heads wake up your motor any, i have some and i should be getting my car back in a couple of weeks i just wanted to know what i could expect thanx

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89lx cocaine white,cobra wing/emblems,chrome 18in cobra r's/nitto xtremes, gt40 longblock from ccm,forged pistons,f303,1.6 rockers,performer rpm intake,70mm tb,75mm bullet,bbk fenderwell induction,24#inj,190l pump,bbk fuel pressure regulator,140amp alt,msd ignition/disributor,aluminum 3 row radiator,bbk shorty's,off road h pipe,flowmasters,king cobra clutch,world class t-5,3.73's,strut tower brace,subframe connectors

08-03-2001, 01:26 PM

Stock, he should win, unless you get a much better jump. If you get gears, get a good launch, the race is yours. You never know - race him and let us know what happens.

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'90 LX 5.0;12K original miles (no sh*&);3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside welded subs;K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini's 3" turbo hood;A/C delete; gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS chip; Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113 - 1.78 60')

89 Cobra LX · 08-03-2001, 01:56 PM

onefastlx420 (nice)

If you're running the stock heads you'll get a very noticeable difference. You do need to run some headers specifically designed for the GT-40p heads due to the different spark plug angle.

I'm actually having some problems with my combo right now. I think the cam wasn't installed correctly so I have yet to get the full potential from the heads. Let me know how yours is running when you get it back (it's scary how similar our combos are). I'd like to know what I should be expecting.

Is cocaine-white the stock color from Ford?!

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Eric - 89 Mustang LX coupe
302 - Cobra Intake - GT40p heads - TFS stage 1 cam - FRPP 1.6 roller rockers - Naturally Aspirated
3:73 gears - KYB shocks and struts - Eibach springs - HPM Mega-bite Jr lower control arms - HPM upper control arms

exgmguy · 08-03-2001, 03:18 PM

GTA's are slooooowwww!!!!! I had an 88 that I built the heck out of. The 1990 and later L98's run a lot better. They went from early mass air to speed density in 1990. GTA's are heavy cars. They weigh 3500-3600 lbs and have 240 hp. Mine and many other 87-89's ran low 15's stock around 90-92 mph. The later ones ran in the mid-high 14's around 95-96 mph. The advertised hp is not higher, but they do make more power.

All the 5.7's are automatics with the 700R4. They can launch pretty good out of the hole. Mine got 1.8 60 foots on street tires all day long after gears and some motor work.

You should take him. Just be careful on the holeshot. From a roll you walk right by.

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1988 Mustang GT
11.8 @ 123 (7/14/01)
1992 BadAzz Wrangler
1993 Explorer

Nitrous Al · 08-03-2001, 07:59 PM

Can soneone loan stevstum some slicks or drag radials? You have to buy a 3.55:1 gearset, flowmaster mufflers and get some headers. Dyno tune your stang after. Stock 5.0's make around 180 rear wheel hp. The L98 Camaro/Firebird twins make around 190 rear wheel hp. As long as you can hook and shift that T5, you'll win. Buy the parts just in case he has some mods he didn't tell you about. Good Luck!!!

gt-hunter · 08-03-2001, 10:02 PM

Dude, if you are both stock you won't have any problem...in the 80s the mustangs (especially the LXs) were the king of the street. That GTA is very heavy and you have as much hp but much lighter than even a GT. With traction and equal drivers you will get at least 1/2 car on him

DISCLAIMER:
What color is it? Why does this make a difference? Well...1989 was the 20th anniversary of the T/A and a very few limited numbers of GTA (ALL WHITE) got the Buick Grand National Turbo'd V6. those things were MUCH faster than the 350 V8s....I can't tell from your post if you are SURE it's a 350 or are just assuming. Don't assume...find out.

Good luck

Mike

[b]edit: my bad...you said 89 LX and 88[/]GTA...got the years mixed up....in that case..shouldn't be a problem

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1999 Z28 M6 Arctic White, MTI-Clear Lid w/K&N, B&B Triflo, BMR STB, Pro 5.0 Power Tower, 160 Powerstat, HPP3, TB Coolant bypass, Ported MAF, Taylor 409 wires(10.4 mm), NGK TR-55s, Redline Synthetic Lubricants, K&N oil filter,
BEST E.T. 13.27 @ 106.39, 2.022 60'(street tires)
323.1 rwhp, 333.9rwtq

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90dpscoupe · 08-03-2001, 10:51 PM

Yea those buick v6 gta's are rare i believe, but they are straight up wicked, and can run high 12's on an auto, but i bet it's a 350.

And stock, or just exhaust, i know id spank the hell outta him, the mustang was king in the 80's like said above, just run one and find out.

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90 lx coupe: 175k miles, steeda water pump pully, hurst shifter, Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil, ADS chip, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs.
Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph: 98.17
Best 60': 1.9607

next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

exgmguy · 08-05-2001, 09:13 AM

I remember seeing those 89 pace car T/A's a few times at the track in the "old days" They were in the low 13's back in 1990 or so. And for you kiddies, A low 13 second street car was pretty damn rare back then. A low 13 stocker was unheard of.

I just saw one actually the last time I went to the track. It was going around 13.1-13.3 105.

08-03-2001, 11:39 AM	#1
stevstum Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Salem, Or. USA Posts: 233	89 lx vs 88 GTA I was wondering who would win me or the GTA. Both are stock except the GTA has a flowmaster on it. It has the 350 and I read that it has about the same HP as mine does. I have just heard that the GM thirdgens with a 350 are faster than a mustang. Do I have a shot at beating him. ------------------ Steve Stumbaugh 89 LX 5.0 5sp. Removed air silencer Motorcraft 8mm wires Autolite platinum plugs BBK O/R h-pipe

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08-03-2001, 12:13 PM	#2
onefastlx420 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: augusta ga usa Posts: 54	i once raced a slightly modified gta in my brothers all stock including air silencer 90 lx notchback i got my *** handed to me, not to make an excuses but i also had two other people in the car with me and he was by himself good luck ------------------ 89lx cocaine white,cobra wing/emblems,chrome 18in cobra r's/nitto xtremes, gt40 longblock from ccm,forged pistons,f303,1.6 rockers,performer rpm intake,70mm tb,75mm bullet,bbk fenderwell induction,24#inj,190l pump,bbk fuel pressure regulator,140amp alt,msd ignition/disributor,aluminum 3 row radiator,bbk shorty's,off road h pipe,flowmasters,king cobra clutch,world class t-5,3.73's,strut tower brace,subframe connectors

08-03-2001, 12:26 PM	#3
89 Cobra LX Don Corlione Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Omaha NE USA Posts: 491	I've beaten a GTA before by a few car lengths. At the time I had a K&N, underdrive pulleys, headers, off-road pipe, 3-chamber Flowmasters and 3.73 gears. I don't think a stock 5.0 will take a stock GTA. Get some gears and you'll beat him all day. ------------------ Eric - 89 Mustang LX coupe 302 - Cobra Intake - GT40p heads - TFS stage 1 cam - FRPP 1.6 roller rockers - Naturally Aspirated 3:73 gears - KYB shocks and struts - Eibach springs - HPM Mega-bite Jr lower control arms - HPM upper control arms

08-03-2001, 12:30 PM	#4
onefastlx420 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: augusta ga usa Posts: 54	hey cobra lx didthose gt 40p heads wake up your motor any, i have some and i should be getting my car back in a couple of weeks i just wanted to know what i could expect thanx ------------------ 89lx cocaine white,cobra wing/emblems,chrome 18in cobra r's/nitto xtremes, gt40 longblock from ccm,forged pistons,f303,1.6 rockers,performer rpm intake,70mm tb,75mm bullet,bbk fenderwell induction,24#inj,190l pump,bbk fuel pressure regulator,140amp alt,msd ignition/disributor,aluminum 3 row radiator,bbk shorty's,off road h pipe,flowmasters,king cobra clutch,world class t-5,3.73's,strut tower brace,subframe connectors

08-03-2001, 01:26 PM	#5
bada$$lx Guest Posts: n/a	Stock, he should win, unless you get a much better jump. If you get gears, get a good launch, the race is yours. You never know - race him and let us know what happens. ------------------ '90 LX 5.0;12K original miles (no sh*&);3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside welded subs;K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini's 3" turbo hood;A/C delete; gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS chip; Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat Intake (12.299 @ 113 - 1.78 60')

08-03-2001, 01:56 PM	#6
89 Cobra LX Don Corlione Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Omaha NE USA Posts: 491	onefastlx420 (nice) If you're running the stock heads you'll get a very noticeable difference. You do need to run some headers specifically designed for the GT-40p heads due to the different spark plug angle. I'm actually having some problems with my combo right now. I think the cam wasn't installed correctly so I have yet to get the full potential from the heads. Let me know how yours is running when you get it back (it's scary how similar our combos are). I'd like to know what I should be expecting. Is cocaine-white the stock color from Ford?! ------------------ Eric - 89 Mustang LX coupe 302 - Cobra Intake - GT40p heads - TFS stage 1 cam - FRPP 1.6 roller rockers - Naturally Aspirated 3:73 gears - KYB shocks and struts - Eibach springs - HPM Mega-bite Jr lower control arms - HPM upper control arms

08-03-2001, 03:18 PM	#7
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	GTA's are slooooowwww!!!!! I had an 88 that I built the heck out of. The 1990 and later L98's run a lot better. They went from early mass air to speed density in 1990. GTA's are heavy cars. They weigh 3500-3600 lbs and have 240 hp. Mine and many other 87-89's ran low 15's stock around 90-92 mph. The later ones ran in the mid-high 14's around 95-96 mph. The advertised hp is not higher, but they do make more power. All the 5.7's are automatics with the 700R4. They can launch pretty good out of the hole. Mine got 1.8 60 foots on street tires all day long after gears and some motor work. You should take him. Just be careful on the holeshot. From a roll you walk right by. ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT 11.8 @ 123 (7/14/01) 1992 BadAzz Wrangler 1993 Explorer

08-03-2001, 07:59 PM	#8
Nitrous Al Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Everett, MA Posts: 417	Can soneone loan stevstum some slicks or drag radials? You have to buy a 3.55:1 gearset, flowmaster mufflers and get some headers. Dyno tune your stang after. Stock 5.0's make around 180 rear wheel hp. The L98 Camaro/Firebird twins make around 190 rear wheel hp. As long as you can hook and shift that T5, you'll win. Buy the parts just in case he has some mods he didn't tell you about. Good Luck!!!

08-03-2001, 10:02 PM	#9
gt-hunter Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Weston, Florida USA Posts: 115	Dude, if you are both stock you won't have any problem...in the 80s the mustangs (especially the LXs) were the king of the street. That GTA is very heavy and you have as much hp but much lighter than even a GT. With traction and equal drivers you will get at least 1/2 car on him DISCLAIMER: What color is it? Why does this make a difference? Well...1989 was the 20th anniversary of the T/A and a very few limited numbers of GTA (ALL WHITE) got the Buick Grand National Turbo'd V6. those things were MUCH faster than the 350 V8s....I can't tell from your post if you are SURE it's a 350 or are just assuming. Don't assume...find out. Good luck Mike [b]edit: my bad...you said 89 LX and 88[/]GTA...got the years mixed up....in that case..shouldn't be a problem ------------------ 1999 Z28 M6 Arctic White, MTI-Clear Lid w/K&N, B&B Triflo, BMR STB, Pro 5.0 Power Tower, 160 Powerstat, HPP3, TB Coolant bypass, Ported MAF, Taylor 409 wires(10.4 mm), NGK TR-55s, Redline Synthetic Lubricants, K&N oil filter, BEST E.T. 13.27 @ 106.39, 2.022 60'(street tires) 323.1 rwhp, 333.9rwtq [This message has been edited by gt-hunter (edited 08-03-2001).]

08-03-2001, 10:51 PM	#10
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	Yea those buick v6 gta's are rare i believe, but they are straight up wicked, and can run high 12's on an auto, but i bet it's a 350. And stock, or just exhaust, i know id spank the hell outta him, the mustang was king in the 80's like said above, just run one and find out. ------------------ 90 lx coupe: 175k miles, steeda water pump pully, hurst shifter, Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil, ADS chip, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 98.17 Best 60': 1.9607 next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

08-05-2001, 09:13 AM	#11
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	I remember seeing those 89 pace car T/A's a few times at the track in the "old days" They were in the low 13's back in 1990 or so. And for you kiddies, A low 13 second street car was pretty damn rare back then. A low 13 stocker was unheard of. I just saw one actually the last time I went to the track. It was going around 13.1-13.3 105.