What do you guys think???

LS1JAY · 11-10-2001, 09:05 PM

Some guy posted this today on another site, it this possible, no one seems to believe him!

I just got back home a few minutes ago(went to a friends after the track) things didn't quite go as planned, first off it warmed up more than I had expected, second I experienced some clutch problems but here how it went!!!!!

R.T 572
60FT 1.561
1/8 7.411
MPH 88.48
1/4 12.101
MPH 109.86

I'll post the slip later, it was just too hot to run 11's! it hit about 80 today after being in the high 50's this morning!!!! DAMN

he says he has a stock '01 GT and here is his mods:
4.56's,B&M Ripper,K&N,MAC cold air,MAC long tube headers,DynoMax Ultra-Flo w/turndowns,BBK 70MM TB,87MM Pro-MAF,short belt,pulleys,Weld draglites,ET streets,weight reduction mods...

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98'Trans Am LS1 A4 273 gears. Whisper lid,Whisper MAF ends,K&N,Flowmaster,Best ET on street tires 13.17 @ 106.49mph
NEW MODS:3" Flowtech cutout,Magnecor wires,NGK TR55's,180 thermostat.

Coupe5oh · 11-11-2001, 08:29 PM

hmm, sounds fishy, he would need maximum traction for that run, and more than stock hp to see that mph, i could believe he is having clutch problems

especially if its stock clutch, and having slicks, and those grs it would burn up!!

Unit 5302 · 11-11-2001, 10:16 PM

If his 60ft was 1.52, yes. It sounds totally possible to me. The mph sounds a little high, but a 1.52 on a totally stock car would be good for a mid 12.

Hell, if I cut a 1.52 with my 87GT I'd probably be running a mid 12.

Hyper92GT · 11-12-2001, 09:44 AM

It is possible for the time the MPH however are suspect. It would depend how much weight was dropped. His mods should put him into the 102-104mph range not including weight loss, but 109MPH is really pushing it.
So, I wouldnt flame the guy. It just isnt the norm.

Coupe5oh · 11-12-2001, 11:16 AM

hyper92, you got a nice setup there, i just think that setup of yours should be pushing around 310-320 at least, at the wheels?

my buddy has stage 3 tfs and he's probaly making about 375rwhp, but with a 347.

91GTturbo · 11-12-2001, 04:10 PM

Isn't 7.40s in the 1/8th close to 11.70s to 11.80s in the 1/4. Something dosn't look right to me.

Hyper92GT · 11-12-2001, 04:38 PM

Coupe5oh, yea I agree. Every dyno operator is different though. Also I had the march ram air box on the car, limiting air flow in a garage a wide open throttle (i expect the car is makeing over 310 once in motion...proof in the 110mph traps on a warm motor).
Anyway, its build for a blower so not bad numbers all around.
Mike

BTW 91Turbo what kind of times are you running with that set-up..looks nice.

SaleenGTS · 11-12-2001, 04:53 PM

With those mods and gears, if he can really drive, it might be possible.....he does however have 300 bhp of a little less. I just can't see a 300 hp stock block GT running near 11's. Depends on what his exact weight is, but 109 mph is about a 290-300 rwhp speed on a 3200 lb car. Sounds fishy, but I did once see a stock 89GT with gears, exhaust and pullies run a 13.1.

91GTTurbo 7.4's re equivalent to that, but with his gears and lack of tons ot torque and hp, he will fall off rather quickly.

Unit 5302 · 11-12-2001, 06:58 PM

Take a look at Jmeiers' setup. He's running 110mph with a stock engined Cobra putting down around 280rwhp, I believe.

I've seen quite a bit of stuff out there where stock engined Cobra's are pushing into the 11's at 110mph+. They weigh more than a GT off the floor by about 150-200lbs.

As far as 7.40's in the 1/8 computing to a mid 11, I'll have to agree with SaleenGTS. The 1/8 mile to 1/4 mile calculations don't usually take into account a hole shot in the 1.5sec 60ft category. If you followed an analyzer to get his 1/4 based on his 1/8, he should also be running near 112mph through the traps. It's just a general idea of what you would come out to, not a perfect calculation.

91GTturbo · 11-12-2001, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hyper92GT
BTW 91Turbo what kind of times are you running with that set-up..looks nice.

Thanks. I have yet to take it to the track. Right now I'm waiting on the installation of a new fuel pump, a new 1-5/8" passenger side header(still has factory one on it), and an adjustable boost control. Taking it to the track with only 6 lbs(current setup) seemed like a waste, so once everything gets installed, a little race gas, and 10-12 lbs and I'll post some numbers.

Coupe5oh · 11-13-2001, 02:57 AM

yea hyper, thats true, 110 mph proves more hp, those dynos just arent accurate or somethin......

topless tire fryer · 11-13-2001, 12:24 PM

You never know, his "weight reduction mods" may mean hes sitting on a milk crate with the seats out, doors and hood off and a dixie cup of gas.

Maybee he's just a really good driver.

LS1JAY · 11-14-2001, 01:07 PM

What is the fastest 4.6 stock motored N/A that you guys have ever seen? and what was his mods???

Hammer · 11-14-2001, 02:02 PM

Fastest 2 valve N\A 99-01 stang I know of is Mustang92's...

Best ET 12.91
Best MPH 105.49

Theoretically, a 4 valver might be able to go a bit more, but with that IRS.... who knows...

11-14-2001, 09:54 PM

I don't believe it.. he went from a low14-high13 sec car to a low 12s car?! with exhaust, gears, tires, cold air and losing some weight?! Let's add it up, maybe 300hp(being real generous here)... I'd like to see the list of weight reductions! Did he lose 1000 lb?!

Why is he using a short belt if he has pulleys? For that .005?? He could have beat Bob Cosby's cobra at the NJ event with that time!

I think he forgot to mention the blower...

Kponti · 11-15-2001, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LS1JAY
4.56's,B&M Ripper,K&N,MAC cold air,MAC long tube headers,DynoMax Ultra-Flo w/turndowns,BBK 70MM TB,87MM Pro-MAF,short belt,pulleys,Weld draglites,ET streets,weight reduction mods...

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98'Trans Am LS1 A4 273 gears. Whisper lid,Whisper MAF ends,K&N,Flowmaster,Best ET on street tires 13.17 @ 106.49mph
NEW MODS:3" Flowtech cutout,Magnecor wires,NGK TR55's,180 thermostat.

I didn't know they had a 70mm TB for 01 GTs

Hammer · 11-15-2001, 07:31 PM

Put him on street tires, at a light at an intersection with a gtech on the dash. I have money down you'll see 13.5-13.8 and my rear end at the end of the quarter....

11-15-2001, 07:31 PM

That crossed my mind today too... I bet he has a Cobra.

Unit 5302 · 11-15-2001, 07:40 PM

A stock motored SD Fox body can hit 12's with nothing more than some weight reduction, gears, slicks, suspension, and a good driver.

It's not that far off to believe an additional 70hp, very low gearing and weight reduction could get a car into the low 12's with a 1.5sec 60ft.

Every tenth in the 60ft is good for 2 tenths at the big end. In other words, when a bone stock new GT pulling a 2.0 60ft can run a 13.8, doing nothing more than getting a 1.5 would put him at 12.8. Adding some more hp and gearing is likely to drop him down to low/mid 12's pretty quick. Now looking at the 12.1, it's a really tall call, moreso than what I initially thought, but I can't sit back and say it's impossible.

There are stock, I repeat STOCK engined DOHC Cobra's in the 11's at over 110mph.

Dark_5.0 · 11-18-2001, 09:56 AM

That time slip is B.S. his time slip equates to a 11.63 in the 1/4. Maybe he let off at the end and still ran a low 12. Sorry guys but there is NO WAY. This guy just made up a time slip.

It is funny to me how if someone post some incredible stuff about a ford most of you are real quick to believe it.

If he said that this time slip was an LT1 camaro he would be getting flamed all to HELL......

JMO

11-10-2001, 09:05 PM	#1
LS1JAY Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Central Florida Posts: 102	What do you guys think??? Some guy posted this today on another site, it this possible, no one seems to believe him! I just got back home a few minutes ago(went to a friends after the track) things didn't quite go as planned, first off it warmed up more than I had expected, second I experienced some clutch problems but here how it went!!!!! R.T 572 60FT 1.561 1/8 7.411 MPH 88.48 1/4 12.101 MPH 109.86 I'll post the slip later, it was just too hot to run 11's! it hit about 80 today after being in the high 50's this morning!!!! DAMN he says he has a stock '01 GT and here is his mods: 4.56's,B&M Ripper,K&N,MAC cold air,MAC long tube headers,DynoMax Ultra-Flo w/turndowns,BBK 70MM TB,87MM Pro-MAF,short belt,pulleys,Weld draglites,ET streets,weight reduction mods... ------------------ 98'Trans Am LS1 A4 273 gears. Whisper lid,Whisper MAF ends,K&N,Flowmaster,Best ET on street tires 13.17 @ 106.49mph NEW MODS:3" Flowtech cutout,Magnecor wires,NGK TR55's,180 thermostat.

11-11-2001, 08:29 PM	#2
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	hmm, sounds fishy, he would need maximum traction for that run, and more than stock hp to see that mph, i could believe he is having clutch problems especially if its stock clutch, and having slicks, and those grs it would burn up!! __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

11-12-2001, 09:44 AM	#4
Hyper92GT slow like mud Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: toronto Posts: 180	It is possible for the time the MPH however are suspect. It would depend how much weight was dropped. His mods should put him into the 102-104mph range not including weight loss, but 109MPH is really pushing it. So, I wouldnt flame the guy. It just isnt the norm. __________________ 1992 DECH GT Not stock, still slow.

11-12-2001, 11:16 AM	#5
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	hyper92, you got a nice setup there, i just think that setup of yours should be pushing around 310-320 at least, at the wheels? my buddy has stage 3 tfs and he's probaly making about 375rwhp, but with a 347. __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

11-12-2001, 04:10 PM	#6
91GTturbo Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Valdese, NC Posts: 361	Isn't 7.40s in the 1/8th close to 11.70s to 11.80s in the 1/4. Something dosn't look right to me. __________________ 91 single turbo vert

11-11-2001, 10:16 PM	#3
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	If his 60ft was 1.52, yes. It sounds totally possible to me. The mph sounds a little high, but a 1.52 on a totally stock car would be good for a mid 12. Hell, if I cut a 1.52 with my 87GT I'd probably be running a mid 12.

11-12-2001, 04:38 PM	#7
Hyper92GT slow like mud Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: toronto Posts: 180	Coupe5oh, yea I agree. Every dyno operator is different though. Also I had the march ram air box on the car, limiting air flow in a garage a wide open throttle (i expect the car is makeing over 310 once in motion...proof in the 110mph traps on a warm motor). Anyway, its build for a blower so not bad numbers all around. Mike BTW 91Turbo what kind of times are you running with that set-up..looks nice. __________________ 1992 DECH GT Not stock, still slow. Last edited by Hyper92GT; 11-12-2001 at 04:43 PM..

11-12-2001, 04:53 PM	#8
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	With those mods and gears, if he can really drive, it might be possible.....he does however have 300 bhp of a little less. I just can't see a 300 hp stock block GT running near 11's. Depends on what his exact weight is, but 109 mph is about a 290-300 rwhp speed on a 3200 lb car. Sounds fishy, but I did once see a stock 89GT with gears, exhaust and pullies run a 13.1. 91GTTurbo 7.4's re equivalent to that, but with his gears and lack of tons ot torque and hp, he will fall off rather quickly. __________________ Dustin 89 Saleen GT Sport Supercharged 306 Started her up 6/8/03 Old Motor Supercharged 347 516 rwhp 553 rwtq 11.249@126.83 1997 Honda CBR 1100XX Super Blackbird 162 hp

11-12-2001, 06:58 PM	#9
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Take a look at Jmeiers' setup. He's running 110mph with a stock engined Cobra putting down around 280rwhp, I believe. I've seen quite a bit of stuff out there where stock engined Cobra's are pushing into the 11's at 110mph+. They weigh more than a GT off the floor by about 150-200lbs. As far as 7.40's in the 1/8 computing to a mid 11, I'll have to agree with SaleenGTS. The 1/8 mile to 1/4 mile calculations don't usually take into account a hole shot in the 1.5sec 60ft category. If you followed an analyzer to get his 1/4 based on his 1/8, he should also be running near 112mph through the traps. It's just a general idea of what you would come out to, not a perfect calculation.

11-13-2001, 02:57 AM	#11
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	yea hyper, thats true, 110 mph proves more hp, those dynos just arent accurate or somethin...... __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

11-13-2001, 12:24 PM	#12
topless tire fryer All show, some go 4 now! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Franklin, NH Posts: 175	stang You never know, his "weight reduction mods" may mean hes sitting on a milk crate with the seats out, doors and hood off and a dixie cup of gas. Maybee he's just a really good driver. __________________ '95 Chrome Yellow GT ragtop, KN filter charger, Dynomax cat back, Accel plugs and wires, Chromed '95 Cobra R's (bought for $19.95, now 2 are warped!) Cervinis stalker ram air hood Our baby <a href="http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?1883">

11-14-2001, 01:07 PM	#13
LS1JAY Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Central Florida Posts: 102	What is the fastest 4.6 stock motored N/A that you guys have ever seen? and what was his mods??? __________________ 1999 Camaro SS / A4 / #0877 Best ET with only Mac's, Lid & 160* Thermostat: 12.73@109.15 New Mods: '02 LS6 Cam & Springs, LS6 Oil Pump & PCV System, Yank 2600 Stall Converter & LS1 Edit. http://jayscustomrods.homestead.com/index.html

11-14-2001, 02:02 PM	#14
Hammer AKA "Dr. Evil" Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: South Fork Ranch Posts: 1,721	Fastest 2 valve N\A 99-01 stang I know of is Mustang92's... Best ET 12.91 Best MPH 105.49 Theoretically, a 4 valver might be able to go a bit more, but with that IRS.... who knows... __________________ Uncle Sam "What the hell is up with all the gauges? Calling Captain Kirk, your ride awaits... Phasers on stun...."

11-14-2001, 09:54 PM	#15
rbatson Guest Posts: n/a	I don't believe it.. he went from a low14-high13 sec car to a low 12s car?! with exhaust, gears, tires, cold air and losing some weight?! Let's add it up, maybe 300hp(being real generous here)... I'd like to see the list of weight reductions! Did he lose 1000 lb?! Why is he using a short belt if he has pulleys? For that .005?? He could have beat Bob Cosby's cobra at the NJ event with that time! I think he forgot to mention the blower...

11-15-2001, 07:31 PM	#17
Hammer AKA "Dr. Evil" Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: South Fork Ranch Posts: 1,721	Put him on street tires, at a light at an intersection with a gtech on the dash. I have money down you'll see 13.5-13.8 and my rear end at the end of the quarter.... __________________ Uncle Sam "What the hell is up with all the gauges? Calling Captain Kirk, your ride awaits... Phasers on stun...."

11-15-2001, 07:40 PM	#19
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	A stock motored SD Fox body can hit 12's with nothing more than some weight reduction, gears, slicks, suspension, and a good driver. It's not that far off to believe an additional 70hp, very low gearing and weight reduction could get a car into the low 12's with a 1.5sec 60ft. Every tenth in the 60ft is good for 2 tenths at the big end. In other words, when a bone stock new GT pulling a 2.0 60ft can run a 13.8, doing nothing more than getting a 1.5 would put him at 12.8. Adding some more hp and gearing is likely to drop him down to low/mid 12's pretty quick. Now looking at the 12.1, it's a really tall call, moreso than what I initially thought, but I can't sit back and say it's impossible. There are stock, I repeat STOCK engined DOHC Cobra's in the 11's at over 110mph.

11-18-2001, 09:56 AM	#20
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	That time slip is B.S. his time slip equates to a 11.63 in the 1/4. Maybe he let off at the end and still ran a low 12. Sorry guys but there is NO WAY. This guy just made up a time slip. It is funny to me how if someone post some incredible stuff about a ford most of you are real quick to believe it. If he said that this time slip was an LT1 camaro he would be getting flamed all to HELL...... JMO __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

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