2001 LS1 Camaro Z28 SS

aurilius_maximus · 04-28-2001, 04:29 PM

My buddy used to have a 97 Mustang GT, but I think he got sick of loosing to my 96 Cobra, so he just traded it in and bought a 2001 Camaro Z28 SS(Lame as hell if you ask me). Anyways yesterday he took me for a ride in it, and it did not feel any faster than my Cobra. After I felt it out, I decided I wanted some of him... That night we went out to a back road, and marked out a 1/4 mile strip. We lined up and went for it. He launched harder than me, and had about a car by second,(I have some messed up synchros or something because I can no longer power shift second). Through second it was pretty even, I was pulling him a bit, then I hit third and we pretty much leveled off. He won by maybe 3\4 of a car length. Needless to say I am not very impressed with these new Z28's. I think I may have been able to take him with a new tranny, or maybe just a short shifter. Oh well, all good you cant win them all...

Skyman · 04-29-2001, 04:31 AM

Not bad not bad, sounds like your cobra runs strong, get some gears in it!

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
Going for 11's on 87 octane with A/C and 20+MPG!!!

stamper99Z · 04-30-2001, 03:48 PM

Gears and tires, then you'll make your friend want to start modding. Fun as hell.

sedanman · 04-30-2001, 11:02 PM

Sounds like a stout cobra, but also remember that LS1 cars run a LOT better after about 3K miles on them.

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1991 Lx sedan 5.0, 5spd, GT-40 Heads, Cobra intake, 73MM mass air, 65mm TB, FPR, 24lb injectors, E303, Headers,off road H-pipe, Flows, K&n , hurst, 3:55's, pullies,electric fan, mac upper and lower control arms, HD trac-loc, lakewood 50/50's on back, shift light, centerforce dual friction, and rebuilt heavy duty T5, A/C SP delete 255/50/16 BFG DR AL D/S
New time
13.2@105.5

Mercury · 05-01-2001, 01:21 AM

Theres a guy at the local Muscle car hang out that has a 2000 Z28 SS. He ran it hard from the start. Well ten thousand miles later, its starting to throw some oil out the pipes on deacceleration (not just a little slight puff) and starting to act a little rough at idle occasionally.

It runs strong, but not the earth shattering beast the guy said it was.

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64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, 3:1 rear gear. Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 windsor valves, high side of 10.5:1 comp, 1.7:1 sled rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, autolite 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. And to many others to list

2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle

64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Auto. project car.

46stang · 05-01-2001, 08:54 AM

get some gears and you'll take him!!! good race. all though i was pretty impressed the first time i drove a stock ss. still wouldn't buy one but the hp is pretty good.imo.

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96 stang,ported 99 heads, 99 intake, 99 cams,Steeda power pullies,Kirban adj.reg.,Pro-m 87,24#inj.,70mm t/b,BBK longtube headers,Bassani x-pipe w/cats, Dynomax ultraflow catback,iat mod, home depot ram air, k@n,373's,cobra brakes,fms spings, tri-ax shifter.

aurilius_maximus · 05-01-2001, 10:25 AM

Yeah after riding in it, the only thing I like about the Camaros's is the T-Tops and the stock 6 speed. I certainly did not feel the 20 horsepower over my car...

Steve2000SS · 05-06-2001, 02:11 AM

I have to ask what you have in your 97 Cobra? Its just a curiosity thing.. Oh and couple more things.. i pound my car hard and with 11k miles i use zero oil.. and its true that the cars make more HP after breaking in (what kind of dope races a brand new car?) .. with $200 in mods i dynoed at 320rwhp (~370at crank) and 333rwtq.. So i wouldnt go knockin GM too much..

long live the blue oval / bow tie battle!

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2000 M6 SS Camaro.. mostly stock go mods.. lots of show stuff..
320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE

99SSragtop · 05-06-2001, 09:30 AM

First off hes not lame hes just smart

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Secondly give the guy and the car a chance.How many miles on the car and I'm sure he has to get used to it.
Let him get some of those free mods in place and a lid and try to run him again,the out come will be differant.

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99 SS black convert.#223
All the free mods,K&N,cut out.
13.2 1/4 mile at 105 mph.

exgmguy · 05-06-2001, 08:04 PM

Yeah, I would hardly consider a car that makes about 300 rwhp stock lame. Those cars can run really hard.

LT1 Z28 · 05-07-2001, 12:06 PM

I don't care if it is a Mustang or a Z, beating a new motor is the stupidest thing to do. You risk screwing your compression by damaging your cylinder walls and lose lots of power you'd have if it was driven nice for a while.

Not all LS1's dyno at 300 RWHP but there seems to be a few of the 2001's pushing lots more than they are supposed to.

And don't forget, it is still de-tuned from the factory, lots more potential to be opened with a couple of little mods.

aurilius_maximus · 05-07-2001, 01:15 PM

I wasnt saying that I though the Camaros are lame, I just though it was lame of him to trade in his GT for a new Camaro. So much more money... He is only 20 years old and now he has some huge car payments... My Cobra is bone stock other than synthetics (Mobil 1), and new Kumho tires. I have 29,000 miles on my cobra and I go through a quart of oil every oil change.

04-28-2001, 04:29 PM	#1
aurilius_maximus Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Mt. Shasta, California, 96067 Posts: 77	2001 LS1 Camaro Z28 SS My buddy used to have a 97 Mustang GT, but I think he got sick of loosing to my 96 Cobra, so he just traded it in and bought a 2001 Camaro Z28 SS(Lame as hell if you ask me). Anyways yesterday he took me for a ride in it, and it did not feel any faster than my Cobra. After I felt it out, I decided I wanted some of him... That night we went out to a back road, and marked out a 1/4 mile strip. We lined up and went for it. He launched harder than me, and had about a car by second,(I have some messed up synchros or something because I can no longer power shift second). Through second it was pretty even, I was pulling him a bit, then I hit third and we pretty much leveled off. He won by maybe 3\4 of a car length. Needless to say I am not very impressed with these new Z28's. I think I may have been able to take him with a new tranny, or maybe just a short shifter. Oh well, all good you cant win them all...

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04-29-2001, 04:31 AM	#2
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Not bad not bad, sounds like your cobra runs strong, get some gears in it! Sky ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph Going for 11's on 87 octane with A/C and 20+MPG!!!

04-30-2001, 03:48 PM	#3
stamper99Z Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8	Gears and tires, then you'll make your friend want to start modding. Fun as hell.

04-30-2001, 11:02 PM	#4
sedanman Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 963	Sounds like a stout cobra, but also remember that LS1 cars run a LOT better after about 3K miles on them. ------------------ 1991 Lx sedan 5.0, 5spd, GT-40 Heads, Cobra intake, 73MM mass air, 65mm TB, FPR, 24lb injectors, E303, Headers,off road H-pipe, Flows, K&n , hurst, 3:55's, pullies,electric fan, mac upper and lower control arms, HD trac-loc, lakewood 50/50's on back, shift light, centerforce dual friction, and rebuilt heavy duty T5, A/C SP delete 255/50/16 BFG DR AL D/S New time 13.2@105.5

05-01-2001, 01:21 AM	#5
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	Theres a guy at the local Muscle car hang out that has a 2000 Z28 SS. He ran it hard from the start. Well ten thousand miles later, its starting to throw some oil out the pipes on deacceleration (not just a little slight puff) and starting to act a little rough at idle occasionally. It runs strong, but not the earth shattering beast the guy said it was. ------------------ 64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, 3:1 rear gear. Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 windsor valves, high side of 10.5:1 comp, 1.7:1 sled rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, autolite 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. And to many others to list 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle 64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Auto. project car.

05-01-2001, 08:54 AM	#6
46stang Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: moorpark ca Posts: 340	get some gears and you'll take him!!! good race. all though i was pretty impressed the first time i drove a stock ss. still wouldn't buy one but the hp is pretty good.imo. ------------------ 96 stang,ported 99 heads, 99 intake, 99 cams,Steeda power pullies,Kirban adj.reg.,Pro-m 87,24#inj.,70mm t/b,BBK longtube headers,Bassani x-pipe w/cats, Dynomax ultraflow catback,iat mod, home depot ram air, k@n,373's,cobra brakes,fms spings, tri-ax shifter.

05-01-2001, 10:25 AM	#7
aurilius_maximus Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Mt. Shasta, California, 96067 Posts: 77	Yeah after riding in it, the only thing I like about the Camaros's is the T-Tops and the stock 6 speed. I certainly did not feel the 20 horsepower over my car...

05-06-2001, 02:11 AM	#8
Steve2000SS Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 31	I have to ask what you have in your 97 Cobra? Its just a curiosity thing.. Oh and couple more things.. i pound my car hard and with 11k miles i use zero oil.. and its true that the cars make more HP after breaking in (what kind of dope races a brand new car?) .. with $200 in mods i dynoed at 320rwhp (~370at crank) and 333rwtq.. So i wouldnt go knockin GM too much.. long live the blue oval / bow tie battle! ------------------ 2000 M6 SS Camaro.. mostly stock go mods.. lots of show stuff.. 320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE

05-06-2001, 09:30 AM	#9
99SSragtop Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Orleans,Ontario Posts: 18	First off hes not lame hes just smart . Secondly give the guy and the car a chance.How many miles on the car and I'm sure he has to get used to it. Let him get some of those free mods in place and a lid and try to run him again,the out come will be differant. ------------------ 99 SS black convert.#223 All the free mods,K&N,cut out. 13.2 1/4 mile at 105 mph.

05-06-2001, 08:04 PM	#10
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	Yeah, I would hardly consider a car that makes about 300 rwhp stock lame. Those cars can run really hard.

05-07-2001, 12:06 PM	#11
LT1 Z28 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Ottawa, ON, CA Posts: 142	I don't care if it is a Mustang or a Z, beating a new motor is the stupidest thing to do. You risk screwing your compression by damaging your cylinder walls and lose lots of power you'd have if it was driven nice for a while. Not all LS1's dyno at 300 RWHP but there seems to be a few of the 2001's pushing lots more than they are supposed to. And don't forget, it is still de-tuned from the factory, lots more potential to be opened with a couple of little mods.

05-07-2001, 01:15 PM	#12
aurilius_maximus Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Mt. Shasta, California, 96067 Posts: 77	I wasnt saying that I though the Camaros are lame, I just though it was lame of him to trade in his GT for a new Camaro. So much more money... He is only 20 years old and now he has some huge car payments... My Cobra is bone stock other than synthetics (Mobil 1), and new Kumho tires. I have 29,000 miles on my cobra and I go through a quart of oil every oil change.