Killed a 96-98 Cobra, an 01 GT and got stomped by a Fox. - Page 2

fastang · 02-01-2001, 02:24 PM

302LXERIC, good luck and congradulations on your marriage. JL1314, Yeah Foxes usualy make me think twice about starting anything too. Sky has a mean fox and personaly I think hes going to rape me at the track but Im gonna try and give him a run for his $ anyway.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

02-02-2001, 11:18 PM

You should race a real 96-98 Cobra. I have a bone stock motor in my 97. Less mods than you. I bet you ain't running 12.3 either. Maybe the guy you ran was sleeping or spinning.

Whatever it was, congratulations on the win, but don't even try to say the GT is faster than a 96-98 Cobra!!! I beat Vorteched 99 GT's, let alone N/A GT's. Ford may have F'kd up the 99 Cobra but they built the 96-98 Cobra right.

Later, Jason

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N/A 1997 Cobra

12.34
111.58 MPH
1.64 60 ft. on Drag Radials

Going for N/A 11's on the completely stock motor

fastang · 02-03-2001, 04:12 AM

Ok How the HE11 did you ever run a 12.3 on a STOCK motor? A 12.3 will probalby beat most supercharged 5.0 GT's as long as the motor is not built as well, but no stock cobra EVER ran that good of a time I dont care what year it is. I will gladly race any STOCK 96-98 cobra you hand me. I guess your drag radials must have dropped 2 and a half seconds off of your ET since your
"going for 11's on a stock motor" Very few of those Cobras ever saw the 13's stock. And who the he11 are you to judge my combo anyway? The car I raced WAS a Cobra and it DID have exh mods at the very least.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

02-03-2001, 04:41 AM

Its called having a good combo. All I have is bolt-ons. You obviously have never seen a Cobra run like it is supposed too. So don't be spreading false info about them. They are rated at 13.99 @ 101.9 stock and you obviously raced a stock one. Just adding a 4.30+ gear will take a Cobra to the very low, low, 13's. Add pulleys, offroad H, timing adjuster, and some good driving, and you end up with the following timeslip.

Here is a pic of how the car looked that day.

Oh, yeah, the 12.3 has been backed up multiple times at a totally different track and I have plenty of eye witnesses. Although, if you got out more often, you would find that there are a bunch of Cobras running the same and better times than me with the stock motor. Like, Bob Cosby, the Corral.net owner, his 99 Cobra ran 12.31 @ 110 on drag radials as well.

I have no reason to lie to you. I will be at multiple FFW and NMRA races this year and also running the 4VNA class at the Modular Shootout.

Later, Jason

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N/A 1997 Cobra

12.34
111.58 MPH
1.64 60 ft. on Drag Radials

Going for N/A 11's on the completely stock motor

fastang · 02-03-2001, 11:38 AM

How am I spreading false info about the Cobra. And if you add pulleys the motor isnt stock anymore and the car itself is definitly not stock with those gears and H pipe. Ok maybe some mag rated the 96-98 Cobra at a 13.999 but who gives a $hit. Facts are that most of them did not see a 13 off the showroom floor. I am not putting them down and I NEVER said that the GT was better than the Cobra, I had to really mod my car to beat them. You seem to be doing realy well for bolt ons, congratulations. I never said that wasnt possible. I just said it wasnt possible STOCK. Adding all that crap doesnt make it stock anymore.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

02-03-2001, 09:37 PM

I never said my car was bone stock. I said my MOTOR is bone stock. And for the record, my friends 96 Cobra with only Flowmasters ran a 13.55 @ 105. This car still had the stock 50,000 mile air filter with silencer.

Its just like every other car. When a car is bone stock, it takes serious driver skill to get it moving. You obviously ran a poor driver. A win is a win no less so I am not taking anything away from you. Just like the 5.0, there are some that can't get out of the 15's to save their own life, but there are some that have ran low 14's and even broke into the 13's stock. Its all about driver skill at stock power levels. I think you were just making rash statements because of one Cobra you beat. Just because you beat one, you wont beat them all, so don't just write them off like that.

And, I don't read magazines as gospel. The stock ET I quoted you came from my owners manual and the run was probably made by a lousy driving Ford Employee. Please don't make me scan that for you.

Later, Jason

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N/A 1997 Cobra

12.34
111.58 MPH
1.64 60 ft. on Drag Radials

Going for N/A 11's on the completely stock motor

fastang · 02-03-2001, 11:55 PM

There are still a lot of new GT's that will beat a Cobra. In fact I would bet that LizardKings could. But Im sick of arguing. Im not writing cobras off at all and I do have a LOT of respect for them. I was just suprised at how well this GT is performing.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

02-04-2001, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lizard King:
What can I say StreetStang37 ... the truth hurts.

I invite you to gather up all the bolt-ons you can think of and race my Cobra heads up at any track of your choosing. We will see if the truth hurts. I won't mind one bit to drive all the way there just to show you the truth.

I will even give you a .500 second head start!!!

Time to put-up or shut-up!!!! How about at the World Ford Challenge, then the whole Ford world can see the truth.

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N/A 1997 Cobra

12.34
111.58 MPH
1.64 60 ft. on Drag Radials

Going for N/A 11's on the completely stock motor

90dpscoupe · 02-04-2001, 03:02 AM

I have also read in a "muscle car review" an old issue from 97, a 97 svt cobra tested at 13.9 @ 101 mph. Oh and i agree driver skill has a lot to do with it

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90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,advncd ignition,3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows.
Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph: 97.80
Best 60': 2.0047

next mods: subframes, 3.73's

96SNAKE · 02-04-2001, 08:43 PM

I side with Jason on this one but the truth is you never know how crappy the other driver is or the true condition of the car, so if somebody can run anywhere near low 14's it's possible to beat a 96-98 Cobra, just not mine or Jason's.

I have driven a 99GT and was impressed with the torque but it just doesn't have the upper end balls of the DOHC Cobra, especially with gears. My car is far from stock but it isn't that modded either. I have never seen a 99/00 Gt come close to me. BUT I have dusted some 96-98 Cobras too and wondered what was wrong with their cars when I would beat them so badly. The fact is, some people can't drive and some people have fast cars out of the box but to generalize about the Cobra being slower than the GT is downright silly.. I'm kidding around here but you get the idea.

Jason, one time we got to meet up and put our Snakes against each other bro.

Excellent ET and trap speed.

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formerly 96cobra89lx306

(96Cobra/softtop-3.73,almdrvsht,fancontrl,steeda sbfrmes+shifter,eibachspgs,KYB's,FR-upper arms,Saleen copy-polished 18's,pulleys,Bassani X pipe(gutted),C&L 80mm
Cobra DYNO 301rwhp horsepower before gutting the X pipe
93 Ford Probe Gt(slower but turns)

02-04-2001, 09:12 PM

Lance,

Yeah, that would be great. Only thing, my car is setup to race from a complete stop.

I ditched the 4.30's and now have 4.56's. Although, 5th gear pulls like a MOFO now, I wouldn't think about using it for a highway race where you seem to capitalize.

I should warn you that even though I still have an all stock motor, I have every bolt-on available now for the Cobra to include BBK Longtubes. I have Weld ProStars all the way around with skinnies on the front and 15x10's on the back and MT ET Drag slicks are now used exclusively on my car. Almost a full drag suspension. I am going to shatter my best times in signature this coming race season.

I will be at the NMRA race in June at Maple Grove, we should meet up there. Or I will be at Cecil County Dragway on opening day Feb. 23rd. I might also be at Atco Raceway in New Jersey next Sunday, Feb. 9th.

Later, Jason

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N/A 1997 Cobra

12.34
111.58 MPH
1.64 60 ft. on Drag Radials

Going for N/A 11's on the completely stock motor

96SNAKE · 02-04-2001, 10:24 PM

I'll try to meet up with you at the Grove Jason. I live about 30 mins from there.

With a complete drag set-up and 4.56's, I doubt I could pull your 60 ft times but I'd try.

I plan on going with decent lower control arms to complement my uppers and KYB's but a drag car it is not. My drag days were spent in my LX but this car is much easier to launch. The best I ran my LX was a 12.4 on drag radials and I beat that car with my Cobra from a 5 mph roll by 2 cars to 90 or so. My future plans are to install the SHM 5.2 or 5.4 stroker motor this summer since I have reason to suspect a slightly damaged piston. Maybe it will be done by the time you come to town.

Later,

Lance

[This message has been edited by 96SNAKE (edited 02-04-2001).]

90dpscoupe · 02-04-2001, 11:20 PM

quote- "Going for N/A 11's on the completely stock motor"

i would say stock block, but "completley" would mean no bolt ons, but whatever.

Skyman · 02-05-2001, 12:34 AM

I have to say he is right. It is a stock motor. When you buy a motor or long block you get the block, pistons, heads, not usually intake, etc. You dont get pulleys, exhaust, gears etc. So his motor is stock. Yes his car is so damn fast it frustrates the hell out of me too. I have no idea why I cant pull a decent 60' with lowering springs but I can't, and its not me, Ive let other people drive it too, it wont hook!

Cobras perform really well with gears. Im thinking about going to 4.30's in my car too.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-
TFS Heads, Edelbrock intake, E-303, 3.73's, 1 5/8 shortys, Offroad-H, 2chamber flows, 36psi FPR, 15degrees timing, 70mm tb, 73mm maf, 24lb inj, Crank pulley, MSD6A, Alum driveshaft.

Added: B&M Ripper, Subframes, & Turndowns.

90dpscoupe · 02-05-2001, 02:32 AM

Well then he should say "stock block" with boltons", then.

yea sky get the 4.30's my friend has em on his lx, but you think u cant hook now huh lol....

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90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,advncd ignition,3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows.
Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph: 97.80
Best 60': 2.0047

next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

02-05-2001, 02:41 AM

There is a difference between a BONE STOCK CAR and a BONE STOCK MOTOR.

My motor is BONE STOCK from the Throttle Body down to the oil pan. The intake has never been removed.

It is really simple, you know what I am talking about, don't get all technical because I have pulleys.

Skyman:

I will have 4.56 gears and a built-rear on Tuesday. I will also have a custom dynotune on Wednesday. I will post some before and after numbers. My car has never been dynoed before.

The reason 4.30+ gears work so well on the Cobra is because Peak HP is at 6100 rpms and there is NO torque down low. We need all the gear we can stand to keep the rpms up between shifts and stay in the powerband. We also shift at 7000 rpms.

Once I get my 11.99 timeslip on this stock motor. I will be shipping the entire motor to Houston Performance for complete rebuild to include, 11:5:1 Compression, Maximum Ported stock heads, and lopey-azz custom regrinded cams. Then I will top it off with a new HCI Intake when they finally come to market. Peak HP will be above 7000 rpms and I will step up the gears to 5.13. Should be interesting!!!

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N/A 1997 Cobra

12.34
111.58 MPH
1.64 60 ft. on Drag Radials

Going for N/A 11's on the completely stock motor

[This message has been edited by jmeiers (edited 02-05-2001).]

02-01-2001, 02:24 PM	#21
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	302LXERIC, good luck and congradulations on your marriage. JL1314, Yeah Foxes usualy make me think twice about starting anything too. Sky has a mean fox and personaly I think hes going to rape me at the track but Im gonna try and give him a run for his $ anyway. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

02-02-2001, 11:18 PM	#22
jmeiers Guest Posts: n/a	You should race a real 96-98 Cobra. I have a bone stock motor in my 97. Less mods than you. I bet you ain't running 12.3 either. Maybe the guy you ran was sleeping or spinning. Whatever it was, congratulations on the win, but don't even try to say the GT is faster than a 96-98 Cobra!!! I beat Vorteched 99 GT's, let alone N/A GT's. Ford may have F'kd up the 99 Cobra but they built the 96-98 Cobra right. Later, Jason ------------------ N/A 1997 Cobra 12.34 111.58 MPH 1.64 60 ft. on Drag Radials Going for N/A 11's on the completely stock motor

02-03-2001, 04:12 AM	#23
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	Ok How the HE11 did you ever run a 12.3 on a STOCK motor? A 12.3 will probalby beat most supercharged 5.0 GT's as long as the motor is not built as well, but no stock cobra EVER ran that good of a time I dont care what year it is. I will gladly race any STOCK 96-98 cobra you hand me. I guess your drag radials must have dropped 2 and a half seconds off of your ET since your "going for 11's on a stock motor" Very few of those Cobras ever saw the 13's stock. And who the he11 are you to judge my combo anyway? The car I raced WAS a Cobra and it DID have exh mods at the very least. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

02-03-2001, 04:41 AM	#24
jmeiers Guest Posts: n/a	Its called having a good combo. All I have is bolt-ons. You obviously have never seen a Cobra run like it is supposed too. So don't be spreading false info about them. They are rated at 13.99 @ 101.9 stock and you obviously raced a stock one. Just adding a 4.30+ gear will take a Cobra to the very low, low, 13's. Add pulleys, offroad H, timing adjuster, and some good driving, and you end up with the following timeslip. Here is a pic of how the car looked that day. Oh, yeah, the 12.3 has been backed up multiple times at a totally different track and I have plenty of eye witnesses. Although, if you got out more often, you would find that there are a bunch of Cobras running the same and better times than me with the stock motor. Like, Bob Cosby, the Corral.net owner, his 99 Cobra ran 12.31 @ 110 on drag radials as well. I have no reason to lie to you. I will be at multiple FFW and NMRA races this year and also running the 4VNA class at the Modular Shootout. Later, Jason ------------------ N/A 1997 Cobra 12.34 111.58 MPH 1.64 60 ft. on Drag Radials Going for N/A 11's on the completely stock motor

02-03-2001, 11:38 AM	#25
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	How am I spreading false info about the Cobra. And if you add pulleys the motor isnt stock anymore and the car itself is definitly not stock with those gears and H pipe. Ok maybe some mag rated the 96-98 Cobra at a 13.999 but who gives a $hit. Facts are that most of them did not see a 13 off the showroom floor. I am not putting them down and I NEVER said that the GT was better than the Cobra, I had to really mod my car to beat them. You seem to be doing realy well for bolt ons, congratulations. I never said that wasnt possible. I just said it wasnt possible STOCK. Adding all that crap doesnt make it stock anymore. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

02-03-2001, 09:37 PM	#26
jmeiers Guest Posts: n/a	I never said my car was bone stock. I said my MOTOR is bone stock. And for the record, my friends 96 Cobra with only Flowmasters ran a 13.55 @ 105. This car still had the stock 50,000 mile air filter with silencer. Its just like every other car. When a car is bone stock, it takes serious driver skill to get it moving. You obviously ran a poor driver. A win is a win no less so I am not taking anything away from you. Just like the 5.0, there are some that can't get out of the 15's to save their own life, but there are some that have ran low 14's and even broke into the 13's stock. Its all about driver skill at stock power levels. I think you were just making rash statements because of one Cobra you beat. Just because you beat one, you wont beat them all, so don't just write them off like that. And, I don't read magazines as gospel. The stock ET I quoted you came from my owners manual and the run was probably made by a lousy driving Ford Employee. Please don't make me scan that for you. Later, Jason ------------------ N/A 1997 Cobra 12.34 111.58 MPH 1.64 60 ft. on Drag Radials Going for N/A 11's on the completely stock motor

02-03-2001, 11:55 PM	#27
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	There are still a lot of new GT's that will beat a Cobra. In fact I would bet that LizardKings could. But Im sick of arguing. Im not writing cobras off at all and I do have a LOT of respect for them. I was just suprised at how well this GT is performing. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

02-04-2001, 03:02 AM	#29
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	I have also read in a "muscle car review" an old issue from 97, a 97 svt cobra tested at 13.9 @ 101 mph. Oh and i agree driver skill has a lot to do with it ------------------ 90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,advncd ignition,3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 97.80 Best 60': 2.0047 next mods: subframes, 3.73's

02-04-2001, 08:43 PM	#30
96SNAKE Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: allentown,pa,u.s. Posts: 780	I side with Jason on this one but the truth is you never know how crappy the other driver is or the true condition of the car, so if somebody can run anywhere near low 14's it's possible to beat a 96-98 Cobra, just not mine or Jason's. I have driven a 99GT and was impressed with the torque but it just doesn't have the upper end balls of the DOHC Cobra, especially with gears. My car is far from stock but it isn't that modded either. I have never seen a 99/00 Gt come close to me. BUT I have dusted some 96-98 Cobras too and wondered what was wrong with their cars when I would beat them so badly. The fact is, some people can't drive and some people have fast cars out of the box but to generalize about the Cobra being slower than the GT is downright silly.. I'm kidding around here but you get the idea. Jason, one time we got to meet up and put our Snakes against each other bro. Excellent ET and trap speed. ------------------ formerly 96cobra89lx306 (96Cobra/softtop-3.73,almdrvsht,fancontrl,steeda sbfrmes+shifter,eibachspgs,KYB's,FR-upper arms,Saleen copy-polished 18's,pulleys,Bassani X pipe(gutted),C&L 80mm Cobra DYNO 301rwhp horsepower before gutting the X pipe 93 Ford Probe Gt(slower but turns)

02-04-2001, 09:12 PM	#31
jmeiers Guest Posts: n/a	Lance, Yeah, that would be great. Only thing, my car is setup to race from a complete stop. I ditched the 4.30's and now have 4.56's. Although, 5th gear pulls like a MOFO now, I wouldn't think about using it for a highway race where you seem to capitalize. I should warn you that even though I still have an all stock motor, I have every bolt-on available now for the Cobra to include BBK Longtubes. I have Weld ProStars all the way around with skinnies on the front and 15x10's on the back and MT ET Drag slicks are now used exclusively on my car. Almost a full drag suspension. I am going to shatter my best times in signature this coming race season. I will be at the NMRA race in June at Maple Grove, we should meet up there. Or I will be at Cecil County Dragway on opening day Feb. 23rd. I might also be at Atco Raceway in New Jersey next Sunday, Feb. 9th. Later, Jason ------------------ N/A 1997 Cobra 12.34 111.58 MPH 1.64 60 ft. on Drag Radials Going for N/A 11's on the completely stock motor

02-04-2001, 10:24 PM	#32
96SNAKE Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: allentown,pa,u.s. Posts: 780	I'll try to meet up with you at the Grove Jason. I live about 30 mins from there. With a complete drag set-up and 4.56's, I doubt I could pull your 60 ft times but I'd try. I plan on going with decent lower control arms to complement my uppers and KYB's but a drag car it is not. My drag days were spent in my LX but this car is much easier to launch. The best I ran my LX was a 12.4 on drag radials and I beat that car with my Cobra from a 5 mph roll by 2 cars to 90 or so. My future plans are to install the SHM 5.2 or 5.4 stroker motor this summer since I have reason to suspect a slightly damaged piston. Maybe it will be done by the time you come to town. Later, Lance [This message has been edited by 96SNAKE (edited 02-04-2001).]

02-04-2001, 11:20 PM	#33
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	quote- "Going for N/A 11's on the completely stock motor" i would say stock block, but "completley" would mean no bolt ons, but whatever.

02-05-2001, 12:34 AM	#34
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	I have to say he is right. It is a stock motor. When you buy a motor or long block you get the block, pistons, heads, not usually intake, etc. You dont get pulleys, exhaust, gears etc. So his motor is stock. Yes his car is so damn fast it frustrates the hell out of me too. I have no idea why I cant pull a decent 60' with lowering springs but I can't, and its not me, Ive let other people drive it too, it wont hook! Cobras perform really well with gears. Im thinking about going to 4.30's in my car too. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, Edelbrock intake, E-303, 3.73's, 1 5/8 shortys, Offroad-H, 2chamber flows, 36psi FPR, 15degrees timing, 70mm tb, 73mm maf, 24lb inj, Crank pulley, MSD6A, Alum driveshaft. Added: B&M Ripper, Subframes, & Turndowns.

02-05-2001, 02:32 AM	#35
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	Well then he should say "stock block" with boltons", then. yea sky get the 4.30's my friend has em on his lx, but you think u cant hook now huh lol.... ------------------ 90 lx coupe: Mac cold air fenderwell, accel supercoil,advncd ignition,3-core radiatr, FMS alum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs, 3chbr flows. Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks) Best mph: 97.80 Best 60': 2.0047 next mods: subframes, mac h-pipe

02-05-2001, 02:41 AM	#36
jmeiers Guest Posts: n/a	There is a difference between a BONE STOCK CAR and a BONE STOCK MOTOR. My motor is BONE STOCK from the Throttle Body down to the oil pan. The intake has never been removed. It is really simple, you know what I am talking about, don't get all technical because I have pulleys. Skyman: I will have 4.56 gears and a built-rear on Tuesday. I will also have a custom dynotune on Wednesday. I will post some before and after numbers. My car has never been dynoed before. The reason 4.30+ gears work so well on the Cobra is because Peak HP is at 6100 rpms and there is NO torque down low. We need all the gear we can stand to keep the rpms up between shifts and stay in the powerband. We also shift at 7000 rpms. Once I get my 11.99 timeslip on this stock motor. I will be shipping the entire motor to Houston Performance for complete rebuild to include, 11:5:1 Compression, Maximum Ported stock heads, and lopey-azz custom regrinded cams. Then I will top it off with a new HCI Intake when they finally come to market. Peak HP will be above 7000 rpms and I will step up the gears to 5.13. Should be interesting!!! ------------------ N/A 1997 Cobra 12.34 111.58 MPH 1.64 60 ft. on Drag Radials Going for N/A 11's on the completely stock motor [This message has been edited by jmeiers (edited 02-05-2001).]