Got beat driving a friends Mustang

Bad89stang · 10-24-2002, 03:25 AM

Well, at least it wasn't my car. My friend just bought a '92 coupe with nothing but longtubes, Off-road H, E-cam and a Cobra intake. Our neighbor had a friend over that was yelling trash across the street about the new stang.

Later the same night he let me drive it around a bit and the dude across the street followed us. He is in a new 1.8 Golf with whatever bolt-ons and 18 PSI! He tried to get us doing a fly-by starting at about 40, but I stayed even. Then we punched from about 35 and the Golf left us. I heard the boost over the sound of the longtubes. I don't know much else about the Golf, but I was impressed.

Then I got to thinking...
$20,000 Golf
$5,000+ for a huge turbo and other bullshit
1st time I ever drove the guys mustang
Didn't feel very confident about the condition of his clutch and tranny.
Not too bad considering he paid 3K for the car.

Now if I can just find the guy when I am in my car...

StoplightWarrior · 10-24-2002, 02:47 PM

that sucks...but I wouldnt consider a cam, intake and longtubes to be minor mods...that guy should see 12's in an LX with those mods on slicks.

tireburner163 · 10-24-2002, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by StoplightWarrior
that sucks...but I wouldnt consider a cam, intake and longtubes to be minor mods...that guy should see 12's in an LX with those mods on slicks.

13's yes, 12's no

this is not cbring · 10-24-2002, 03:52 PM

if you can, find out exactly what the volkswagen has.......

i seriously doubt he has an upgraded turbo........and i wouldn't consider any of the potential upgraded turbo kits available for this car as a "large turbo"...........the stock turbo might be about the size of my fist (and i'm about 5'7" 130 lbs)

you can run 18 psi for about $35 (though, i wouldn't recommend it as the only mod to even my worst enemy) and be in the 13's with sloppy 60 ft times

NotchJohnson · 10-24-2002, 07:38 PM

Check to see if your buddy has the stock heads on his car, If he does that cobra intake and cam isnt gonna do much for him right now. That might equate to your loss. - John

StoplightWarrior · 10-25-2002, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by tireburner163
13's yes, 12's no

Are you kidding! My friend is in the 12's on a stock motored LX w/ gears and suspension work! With those mods on slicks, if he can drive, easy 12's.

Bad89stang · 10-25-2002, 02:13 AM

I don't know much more info on the VW, but the car is pretty nice. The guy has spent some pretty good money on it and it is built right(for a VW). I was just really impressed with the top end on the Golf. It really made me respect the power of properly tuned turbo 4 cylinders. 18 psi is nothing to sneeze at. I doubt stock 1.8T's come with large intercoolers conveniently mounted behind the front bumper either. Not just a turbo upgrade kit I assume.

My friend just bought the Mustang and it basically just has a fresh engine going for it. As far as all the suggestions with the engine combos... it is not my car. I have been wrenching on stangs for quite awhile and I definitely would not build the same combo that he is running. Yes, the heads are stock. However, I was pretty impressed with the power of the cam combined with the intake and LT's. His gears are much too high for me though and I had a hard time shifting it. His gears are one ratio higher than 4:56 i believe. Fun car to stomp on from a roll, but he is definitely in need of some good heads. He also had some SSM control arms that hooked VERY well on radials. My car would have been sideways with only 3:55 gears.

this is not cbring · 10-25-2002, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bad89stang
......Not just a turbo upgrade kit I assume...........

"JUST a turbo upgrade"........i don't understand that statement at all

BTW, stock intercooler is in the wheelwell..........some of the fastest 1.8T's run FMIC's, some don't see the relocation as a worthwhile mod *shrugs*

Bad89stang · 10-25-2002, 11:10 AM

It means that the car has other modifications such as intake, exhaust and other supporting parts needed for a properly built turbo car with a lot of boost.

this is not cbring · 10-25-2002, 12:08 PM

i didn't understand the "just" part.......

an upgraded turbo is about the most extensive mod you'll find on an amateur built street car

i took it as if you were downplaying it as if it was a k&n drop-in or exhaust or something

StoplightWarrior · 10-25-2002, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by this is not cbring
i didn't understand the "just" part.......

an upgraded turbo is about the most extensive mod you'll find on an amateur built street car

i took it as if you were downplaying it as if it was a k&n drop-in or exhaust or something

Dude, dont trip, last week I installed Just a vortech supercharger on my GT. No biggie.

It's no flowmaster exhaust, but it does alright.

*Steeda90GT* · 10-25-2002, 01:45 PM

E-Cam with stock heads is hurting more then helping...

10-24-2002, 03:25 AM	#1
Bad89stang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Ft. Worth, TX Posts: 456	Got beat driving a friends Mustang Well, at least it wasn't my car. My friend just bought a '92 coupe with nothing but longtubes, Off-road H, E-cam and a Cobra intake. Our neighbor had a friend over that was yelling trash across the street about the new stang. Later the same night he let me drive it around a bit and the dude across the street followed us. He is in a new 1.8 Golf with whatever bolt-ons and 18 PSI! He tried to get us doing a fly-by starting at about 40, but I stayed even. Then we punched from about 35 and the Golf left us. I heard the boost over the sound of the longtubes. I don't know much else about the Golf, but I was impressed. Then I got to thinking... $20,000 Golf $5,000+ for a huge turbo and other bullshit 1st time I ever drove the guys mustang Didn't feel very confident about the condition of his clutch and tranny. Not too bad considering he paid 3K for the car. Now if I can just find the guy when I am in my car... __________________ You're gonna need your seatbelt

10-24-2002, 02:47 PM	#2
StoplightWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 1,311	that sucks...but I wouldnt consider a cam, intake and longtubes to be minor mods...that guy should see 12's in an LX with those mods on slicks. __________________ Black 2000 GT Auto V2-SQ, Full Steeda G-trac Suspension, Baer Brakes, Saleen Body Kit, Corbeau CR1s, Chrome Cobra R's, etc, etc... 341rwhp, 338 torque 1994 Cobra #4343 Bolt on's only... Cofounder of Raccoon Racing

10-24-2002, 03:52 PM	#4
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	if you can, find out exactly what the volkswagen has....... i seriously doubt he has an upgraded turbo........and i wouldn't consider any of the potential upgraded turbo kits available for this car as a "large turbo"...........the stock turbo might be about the size of my fist (and i'm about 5'7" 130 lbs) you can run 18 psi for about $35 (though, i wouldn't recommend it as the only mod to even my worst enemy) and be in the 13's with sloppy 60 ft times __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T Last edited by this is not cbring; 10-24-2002 at 09:40 PM..

10-24-2002, 07:38 PM	#5
NotchJohnson Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 593	Check to see if your buddy has the stock heads on his car, If he does that cobra intake and cam isnt gonna do much for him right now. That might equate to your loss. - John __________________ 89 notch-finally not stock!! ported gt40's, ported cobra intake, 65mm tb, 75mm maf, mac cai, lt's,prochamber, fms 1.6 rr, 125 shot.

10-25-2002, 02:13 AM	#7
Bad89stang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Ft. Worth, TX Posts: 456	More info... I don't know much more info on the VW, but the car is pretty nice. The guy has spent some pretty good money on it and it is built right(for a VW). I was just really impressed with the top end on the Golf. It really made me respect the power of properly tuned turbo 4 cylinders. 18 psi is nothing to sneeze at. I doubt stock 1.8T's come with large intercoolers conveniently mounted behind the front bumper either. Not just a turbo upgrade kit I assume. My friend just bought the Mustang and it basically just has a fresh engine going for it. As far as all the suggestions with the engine combos... it is not my car. I have been wrenching on stangs for quite awhile and I definitely would not build the same combo that he is running. Yes, the heads are stock. However, I was pretty impressed with the power of the cam combined with the intake and LT's. His gears are much too high for me though and I had a hard time shifting it. His gears are one ratio higher than 4:56 i believe. Fun car to stomp on from a roll, but he is definitely in need of some good heads. He also had some SSM control arms that hooked VERY well on radials. My car would have been sideways with only 3:55 gears. __________________ You're gonna need your seatbelt Last edited by Bad89stang; 10-25-2002 at 08:44 PM..

10-25-2002, 11:10 AM	#9
Bad89stang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Ft. Worth, TX Posts: 456	It means that the car has other modifications such as intake, exhaust and other supporting parts needed for a properly built turbo car with a lot of boost. __________________ You're gonna need your seatbelt

10-25-2002, 12:08 PM	#10
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	i didn't understand the "just" part....... an upgraded turbo is about the most extensive mod you'll find on an amateur built street car i took it as if you were downplaying it as if it was a k&n drop-in or exhaust or something __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T

10-25-2002, 01:45 PM	#12
Steeda90GT Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: NJ Posts: 297	E-Cam with stock heads is hurting more then helping... __________________ 94 Oxford White GT. 17" Factory wheels with 275/40/17 Nitto Drag Radials. Vortech S-Trim, Anderson Power Pipe, 24lb injectors, T-Rex external, 190lph internal, 3.55s, 65mm TB, Pro M 77mm MAF, Pro 5.0 shifter, Saleen Gauges, Crane ignition, MAC longtubes, catalytic h-pipe, flowmasters.

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