331 vs. new GT 5 speed

jonnyk · 09-15-2003, 06:57 PM

Well I admit I've been lazy at posting, I don't think I've posted any of my races yet this year (I'm about 50/50 now, most of my losses are stoplight races that I burn the tires for the first 60 mph and run out of room to run them down).

Anyways, I was out on Saturday night cruising down a local strip, and pulled up to a light against a nice new yellow GT. Looked over to the side, nodded, and knew it was on. The opposite light turns yellow and I get ready to give buddy a blast of tire smoke and hopefully hang with him for a ways. The green light drops and I roll into the throttle and SIDEWAYS just about instantly. I hit 2nd, ease off, and then roll back into it, and go sideways again banging the 6000 limiter on the Crane ignition, and the Magnaflows are ROARING! At this point there are parked cars on the right ahead and I'm hanging halfway into that lane so I decided to shut down. GT 1, LX 0

He had me by about 3 cars because I really couldn't get moving. Time for some new tires, my bald 245's and road race caliber suspension don't make for good 60' times, especially on cold asphalt.

Anyways, we continue along and pull up to another light and chat...blah blah, what's a 5.4? Stuff like that. (I have 5.4 badges on the side of my car to let the losers know what lurks beneath). Light turns green again and I'm not willing to suffer defeat so I ease away, and the other guy wasn't racing either. We cruise for another couple blocks and the road widens out and speed limit increase, he drops a gear beside me and gets a 2-3 car length jump (I knew he needed it so no panic). I downshift to 2nd in the meat of the powerband around 40 mph and drill it. Top of 2nd gear I'm right beside him, and I powershift 3rd and spin a bit, giving him a nice shot of exhaust. Wind out 3rd gear and hit 4th and he's already 3-4 car lengths back, and I wind out 4th until around 110 and I can barely see his headlights anymore

The motor sure pulls nice in 40 degree weather!
Revenge was very sweet.

My car went 13.4 on the bald tires before I did my Magnaflows, in the heart of July's heat, humidity, and we're at about 2400' altitude here too. For reference, most LS1 Camaros/Firebirds go 13.8-14.0 at around 100 mph here, and a headers/CAI/drag radial auto C5 Vette went 13.2 @ 106. Same night also a ZO6 went 13.2 @ 107, although I admit the guy probably wasn't the greatest driver. I suspect I'll be close to the 12's with the new exhaust now, it makes a lot more torque and pulls a lot harder in the 5300+ rev range. I have one more track day on the 5th of October to find out (with a lot COOLER air)!

Jonathan

Fox Body · 09-15-2003, 11:17 PM

Nice races. Yes, revenge is sweet. Now PLEASE, go get some drag radials, learn how to ease that baby out of the hole, and quit embarassing us here!

j/k

Dark_5.0 · 09-16-2003, 12:48 PM

Traction is your friend.

RoadWarrior · 09-20-2003, 06:36 PM

Ya the cars doing good. Now i have to hear it with the new exhaust. Maybe ill line up beside you sometimes. I just need to get some gears to keep up to all you guys. My little 3.08s are starting to fall behind.

red82gt · 09-21-2003, 03:21 AM

My 373's aren't cutting it, I couldn't imagine 308's. My car's power peak is at 6100 rpms so I'm practically crossing the line in 3rd

(Actually did cross in 3rd a couple of times this weekend).
Roadwarrior, don't fear the gear, if you want to get the most out of your car, get 4.10s. If I were to do it over again, I'd go with 4.30's. I'm probably just going to bottle my car which will make the 373's useful again.

RoadWarrior · 09-21-2003, 04:31 PM

Actually right now i dont mind the gears that i have. Even with the 3.08's i managed a 13.9 @ 101.8mph. And thats at the same track as jonny. But i think that changing the gears and getting some beefy tires should cut a good chunk off my timeslips.

sedanman · 09-23-2003, 10:29 PM

Traction can make or break a street race, if you drive it mostly on the street I would reccommend some Nitto Dr's.

USMC302 · 09-25-2003, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Traction can make or break a street race

Damn straight, I went out in drag radials and the other stang was on slicks (go figure) after we finally hooked, he did NOT pull away anymore, we were about 1 car length apart the entire race, it was all out of the hole that mattered. Funny how no one remembers the part about him on slicks and me on drag radials, just that I got my *** handed to me by the 93 cobra. Oh well, I'll see him again.....

jonnyk · 09-25-2003, 05:39 PM

I will only be addressing traction to a limited amount on the street because I do put on a lot of miles despite it being a weekend warrior. I think I can work on the front suspension a fair bit with coilovers so I can soften it up, and I am also adding wider tires in the rear and thinking about ballast also. It sounds extreme now but I'm sure once I supercharge it I will be thanking myself

Coupe50h · 09-26-2003, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by red82gt
My 373's aren't cutting it, I couldn't imagine 308's. My car's power peak is at 6100 rpms so I'm practically crossing the line in 3rd (Actually did cross in 3rd a couple of times this weekend).
Roadwarrior, don't fear the gear, if you want to get the most out of your car, get 4.10s. If I were to do it over again, I'd go with 4.30's. I'm probably just going to bottle my car which will make the 373's useful again.

Naw man, look what im getting out of 3.27's, and slicks!!

with that cam of yours 4.10's would be great though.

09-15-2003, 06:57 PM	#1
jonnyk Being stroked is great Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 772	331 vs. new GT 5 speed Well I admit I've been lazy at posting, I don't think I've posted any of my races yet this year (I'm about 50/50 now, most of my losses are stoplight races that I burn the tires for the first 60 mph and run out of room to run them down). Anyways, I was out on Saturday night cruising down a local strip, and pulled up to a light against a nice new yellow GT. Looked over to the side, nodded, and knew it was on. The opposite light turns yellow and I get ready to give buddy a blast of tire smoke and hopefully hang with him for a ways. The green light drops and I roll into the throttle and SIDEWAYS just about instantly. I hit 2nd, ease off, and then roll back into it, and go sideways again banging the 6000 limiter on the Crane ignition, and the Magnaflows are ROARING! At this point there are parked cars on the right ahead and I'm hanging halfway into that lane so I decided to shut down. GT 1, LX 0 He had me by about 3 cars because I really couldn't get moving. Time for some new tires, my bald 245's and road race caliber suspension don't make for good 60' times, especially on cold asphalt. Anyways, we continue along and pull up to another light and chat...blah blah, what's a 5.4? Stuff like that. (I have 5.4 badges on the side of my car to let the losers know what lurks beneath). Light turns green again and I'm not willing to suffer defeat so I ease away, and the other guy wasn't racing either. We cruise for another couple blocks and the road widens out and speed limit increase, he drops a gear beside me and gets a 2-3 car length jump (I knew he needed it so no panic). I downshift to 2nd in the meat of the powerband around 40 mph and drill it. Top of 2nd gear I'm right beside him, and I powershift 3rd and spin a bit, giving him a nice shot of exhaust. Wind out 3rd gear and hit 4th and he's already 3-4 car lengths back, and I wind out 4th until around 110 and I can barely see his headlights anymore The motor sure pulls nice in 40 degree weather! Revenge was very sweet. My car went 13.4 on the bald tires before I did my Magnaflows, in the heart of July's heat, humidity, and we're at about 2400' altitude here too. For reference, most LS1 Camaros/Firebirds go 13.8-14.0 at around 100 mph here, and a headers/CAI/drag radial auto C5 Vette went 13.2 @ 106. Same night also a ZO6 went 13.2 @ 107, although I admit the guy probably wasn't the greatest driver. I suspect I'll be close to the 12's with the new exhaust now, it makes a lot more torque and pulls a lot harder in the 5300+ rev range. I have one more track day on the 5th of October to find out (with a lot COOLER air)! Jonathan __________________ Novi 2000 now spinning off the snout of the 331... Mods Pics Last edited by jonnyk; 09-15-2003 at 07:37 PM..

09-15-2003, 11:17 PM	#2
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	Nice races. Yes, revenge is sweet. Now PLEASE, go get some drag radials, learn how to ease that baby out of the hole, and quit embarassing us here! j/k __________________ 351W-powered 1979 Ford Mustang Ghia notchback '79 Video @ Idle Stock 5.8L under 4" cowl 'glass hood, C4 w/ Transgo shift kit, Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake; Fluidyne Al radiator, Flexalite 175 electric fan, 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, FRPP Al driveshaft; S&W 6-point cage; 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters, 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s; Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 275/50/15 Nitto NT 555R Drag Radials; 14 x 4” K&N X-stream air filter. '92 GT (5-speed) Small In Car Video Stock 5.0L, 2-chamber Flowmasters, MAC CAI, Tri-Ax, Al pedals... "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

09-16-2003, 12:48 PM	#3
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	Traction is your friend. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

09-20-2003, 06:36 PM	#4
RoadWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Edmonton,Alberta,Canada Posts: 317	Ya the cars doing good. Now i have to hear it with the new exhaust. Maybe ill line up beside you sometimes. I just need to get some gears to keep up to all you guys. My little 3.08s are starting to fall behind. __________________ Fast Company

09-21-2003, 03:21 AM	#5
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	My 373's aren't cutting it, I couldn't imagine 308's. My car's power peak is at 6100 rpms so I'm practically crossing the line in 3rd (Actually did cross in 3rd a couple of times this weekend). Roadwarrior, don't fear the gear, if you want to get the most out of your car, get 4.10s. If I were to do it over again, I'd go with 4.30's. I'm probably just going to bottle my car which will make the 373's useful again. __________________ 393W: AFR 205's, hydraulic roller, TKO600.

09-21-2003, 04:31 PM	#6
RoadWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Edmonton,Alberta,Canada Posts: 317	Actually right now i dont mind the gears that i have. Even with the 3.08's i managed a 13.9 @ 101.8mph. And thats at the same track as jonny. But i think that changing the gears and getting some beefy tires should cut a good chunk off my timeslips. __________________ Fast Company

09-23-2003, 10:29 PM	#7
sedanman Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 963	Traction can make or break a street race, if you drive it mostly on the street I would reccommend some Nitto Dr's. __________________ 04 Screamin Yellow Cobra KB 2.4 (585/556 pump 626/666 race) 00R brakes, DFX clutch, Level 5's, return fuel system, Lts with 3" exhuast, FR500 wheels and all the other fun stuff. GONE 1991 Lx sedan 5.0, 5spd (Liberty proshifted TKO) S-trim, Ported TF heads everything parted out.

09-25-2003, 05:39 PM	#9
jonnyk Being stroked is great Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 772	I will only be addressing traction to a limited amount on the street because I do put on a lot of miles despite it being a weekend warrior. I think I can work on the front suspension a fair bit with coilovers so I can soften it up, and I am also adding wider tires in the rear and thinking about ballast also. It sounds extreme now but I'm sure once I supercharge it I will be thanking myself __________________ Novi 2000 now spinning off the snout of the 331... Mods Pics

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