SS's and WS-what?

bigwhitecobra · 09-25-2001, 10:58 AM

I went to the l9ocal track last week, I didn't get to run, but I watched as all the other guys did. I kept noticing how slow the Camaro's and Firebird's were. The quickest SS I saw ran a 9.5, I forget the MPH. The rest of them were in the 9.7-10.5 range. Now, I don't claim to be the fastest car around, but with the few mods I have I usually run in the 9.10-8.80 range(depending on traction).
What happened to Camaro's being the fastest cars stock? I have a cold air intake, 3.73's, headers, off road H, and a 2.95 first gear. I have a few other things, but they really don't count for much.

I don't mind the Brand X cars being so slow. I just wish I had a little bit more competition.

CAMARO GUY · 09-25-2001, 11:32 AM

uh yeah there are some slow ones out there but there are also some faster ones. the same goes for any car. driver also has alot to do with it. oh and if you didn't know there are alot of slow mustangs out there as well. and there sure as hell some f-bod's out there that will give you a run for your money. brand x lol where did that come from

Mercury · 09-25-2001, 01:07 PM

Brand X being a representation of the subjects (Mustangs) Competitors. (Other pony Cars, Camaro's, FireBirds and...well thats about it) Its a polite ways to point fingers in a general direction.

Its true about alot of it wieghing in on the Drivers ability, I've seen guys who can make Cobra's and SS loose to a 100 percent stock V-Tech (Well not really

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64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 valves, 11:1 comp, 1.7:1 rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, modified 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. GT Apperance pkg. And to many others to list

2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle, 40 series Flowmasters, Steeda Tri-Ax
64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Future resto.

blue00gt · 09-25-2001, 03:32 PM

It could also be that those GM's are fast in the 1/4, but not so great in the 1/8. When I race SS's I can get them until 3rd gear alot of times before they pass me.

bigwhitecobra · 09-26-2001, 10:28 AM

Well, whatever it is, I almost got brave enough to race a few with the Focus. Almost. I have gotten the Foci in to the 10.6 range, but that's about it's limit stock.

With the Cobra and a pair of slicks, I'll race anyone(of course I realize that 90% of the time I'll lose).

With the GT, well, you gotta be brave to race it. On street tires at street pressures, I've ran a 11.24@124mph. Not freaking bad huh?

Where was I going with this?........Hmm, maybe I'll figure it out later.

Eh, whatever. Later guys.

CAMARO GUY · 09-26-2001, 11:00 AM

do you seriously take a stock focus to the track? what does it run in the 1/4?

90dpscoupe · 09-26-2001, 11:07 AM

Those ls1's really come alive after the 1/8th, trust me, i agree with blue00gt, they catch me after the 1/8th ususally, i saw a 01 t/a running 14.3-14.6 @ 101mph, yes this guy just couldnt drive that car, i mean i thought even the most idiotic driver can nail a 14.0 @ 103 in a stock ls1.

I might add, this is the only ls1 i ever killed on the strip

plenty of lt1's though.

PGkelly · 09-26-2001, 08:41 PM

F-bodies strength is their third gear. if they're pulling a little before then, they start pulling more. if they are losing before third, that is when they start winning. and since they'd be shifting to third about the 1/8 mile mark, it doesn't surprise me their 1/8 mile times are slower than others.

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AOL: MCVillain45

donkey hunter · 09-27-2001, 10:09 PM

I PERSONALY OWN A 98 SS CAMARO AND IT RAN A 9.29 AT 82.3 MPH WITH A 2.5 SIXTY FOOT TIME. I WOULD RUN YOUR MODIFIDED!!!!! COBRA WITH MY STOCK F-BODY AND WITH GOOD TIRES SMOKE YOU REAR END.

gt-hunter · 09-27-2001, 11:50 PM

I guess some people just suck at driving cause my best n/a run to 1/8 was 8.634 @ 83.87mph and my worst was 8.905 @ 83.69mph.

Mike

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1999 Z28 M6 Arctic White,
13.27 @ 106.39, 2.022 60' n/a

CAMARO GUY · 09-28-2001, 11:19 AM

How many f-body owners are on this board?

Mercury · 09-28-2001, 12:14 PM

TO MANY!

CAMARO GUY · 09-28-2001, 06:30 PM

HA HA

09-28-2001, 06:54 PM

wwwwaaayyy too many.by the way donkey hunter , the governer called & said you are to be extridited to west va., by the way why are you hunting donkey's , a little sat night date ? hum .a stock ss beating a cobra hehe.eeeyaw

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bstang46 · 09-30-2001, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by donkey hunter:
I PERSONALY OWN A 98 SS CAMARO AND IT RAN A 9.29 AT 82.3 MPH WITH A 2.5 SIXTY FOOT TIME. I WOULD RUN YOUR MODIFIDED!!!!! COBRA WITH MY STOCK F-BODY AND WITH GOOD TIRES SMOKE YOU REAR END.

I take you up on that 98 SS. I got a 01 mustang and i ran it stock just with a KN filtier and i ran in the 9.2's @88 mph. And dont forget this was in 90's degree weather at 9:30 at night can you imagine what it might have been if it was good racing conditions. Maybe 9 flat's??? How does that SS do now. But i will admit that the SS is hell on the top end i found that out personally with a 01 SS.

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bri32z · 09-30-2001, 04:06 PM

Hey I want some of that SS too!!!!! They are easy prey

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95 gt:347 stroker balanced,edelbrock 150 shot, edelbrock intake and heads ported and matched, 70mm throttle body, 75mm mass air meter, 2040 cam, 1.7 cobra rockers,cold air induction, bbk equal lengths,high flow h-pipe, super chip, 24lb injectors,190lph fuel pump(bbk), under drive pulleys, 4;30 gears, Has other mods but not too sure what my mechanic did. Hoping for low 11's in the 1/4 mile. To see all mods look at my spec page.

My Car: [URL=http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?

09-30-2001, 08:11 PM

hey , B staNG & BRIE let him alone it's the weekend he is out on a date with his donkey, he does not have time to even look at a stang right now , maybe on mon night eeeyyyawww.

donkey hunter · 09-30-2001, 08:17 PM

WE ARE DONKEYHUNTERS BECAUSE THATS WHAT'S ON THE FRONT OF YOUR CARS, IT KINDA RESEMBLES A HORSE BUT IT CAN'T BE ITS NOT FAST ENOUGH. I DO HAVE A SERIOUSE QUESTION IF COBRA'S ARE SO BAD HOW COME FORD HAD TO LIE FOR SIX YEARS ABOUT THE HP (NOT DONKEYPOWER) IN THEIR CARS. ALSO HOW COME EVERY TIME YOU SEE A DONKEY CAR THEY ARE ALWAYS REVING IT UP. IS IT AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX? IF THEY MAKE SO MUCH POWER HOW COME THEY ALWAYS USE NOS, SUPERCHARGERS, OR TURBOS. YOU KNOW GM MADE A SIX CYLINDER THAT WAS TURBO CHARGED AND RUNS 8 SECONDS IN 1/4 WIN MODIFIED. IF DONKEYS ARE SO FAST (ESPECIALLY NEW ONE'S) WHY DO YOU NOT SEE THEM IN SUPER STOCK OR STOCK ELIMINATOR, THE ONLY NEW CARS THAT RUN ARE CAMARO'S AND TRANS-AMS.

bri32z · 09-30-2001, 08:29 PM

Hey Donkey Boy! I see that you are in TN. Right up the street from me. If you would like to run them let me know. I will even do it on just motor for ya if you would like.

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95 gt:347 stroker balanced,edelbrock 150 shot, edelbrock intake and heads ported and matched, 70mm throttle body, 75mm mass air meter, 2040 cam, 1.7 cobra rockers,cold air induction, bbk equal lengths,high flow h-pipe, super chip, 24lb injectors,190lph fuel pump(bbk), under drive pulleys, 4;30 gears, Has other mods but not too sure what my mechanic did. Hoping for low 11's in the 1/4 mile. To see all mods look at my spec page.

My Car: [URL=http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?

SaleenGTS · 09-30-2001, 08:30 PM

Are you actually listening to this guy??? Some kids never learn...

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Dustin
89 Saleen GT Sport,428 rwhp,TFS Street Heat Intake,TFS TW Heads,TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's

12.3@119 street tires

11.496@121.08slicks

09-25-2001, 10:58 AM	#1
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	SS's and WS-what? I went to the l9ocal track last week, I didn't get to run, but I watched as all the other guys did. I kept noticing how slow the Camaro's and Firebird's were. The quickest SS I saw ran a 9.5, I forget the MPH. The rest of them were in the 9.7-10.5 range. Now, I don't claim to be the fastest car around, but with the few mods I have I usually run in the 9.10-8.80 range(depending on traction). What happened to Camaro's being the fastest cars stock? I have a cold air intake, 3.73's, headers, off road H, and a 2.95 first gear. I have a few other things, but they really don't count for much. I don't mind the Brand X cars being so slow. I just wish I had a little bit more competition.

09-25-2001, 11:32 AM	#2
CAMARO GUY Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 87	uh yeah there are some slow ones out there but there are also some faster ones. the same goes for any car. driver also has alot to do with it. oh and if you didn't know there are alot of slow mustangs out there as well. and there sure as hell some f-bod's out there that will give you a run for your money. brand x lol where did that come from

09-25-2001, 01:07 PM	#3
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	Brand X being a representation of the subjects (Mustangs) Competitors. (Other pony Cars, Camaro's, FireBirds and...well thats about it) Its a polite ways to point fingers in a general direction. Its true about alot of it wieghing in on the Drivers ability, I've seen guys who can make Cobra's and SS loose to a 100 percent stock V-Tech (Well not really ) ------------------ 64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 valves, 11:1 comp, 1.7:1 rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, modified 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. GT Apperance pkg. And to many others to list 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle, 40 series Flowmasters, Steeda Tri-Ax 64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Future resto.

09-25-2001, 03:32 PM	#4
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	It could also be that those GM's are fast in the 1/4, but not so great in the 1/8. When I race SS's I can get them until 3rd gear alot of times before they pass me.

09-26-2001, 10:28 AM	#5
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	Well, whatever it is, I almost got brave enough to race a few with the Focus. Almost. I have gotten the Foci in to the 10.6 range, but that's about it's limit stock. With the Cobra and a pair of slicks, I'll race anyone(of course I realize that 90% of the time I'll lose). With the GT, well, you gotta be brave to race it. On street tires at street pressures, I've ran a 11.24@124mph. Not freaking bad huh? Where was I going with this?........Hmm, maybe I'll figure it out later. Eh, whatever. Later guys.

09-26-2001, 11:00 AM	#6
CAMARO GUY Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 87	do you seriously take a stock focus to the track? what does it run in the 1/4?

09-26-2001, 11:07 AM	#7
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	Those ls1's really come alive after the 1/8th, trust me, i agree with blue00gt, they catch me after the 1/8th ususally, i saw a 01 t/a running 14.3-14.6 @ 101mph, yes this guy just couldnt drive that car, i mean i thought even the most idiotic driver can nail a 14.0 @ 103 in a stock ls1. I might add, this is the only ls1 i ever killed on the strip plenty of lt1's though.

09-26-2001, 08:41 PM	#8
PGkelly Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 274	F-bodies strength is their third gear. if they're pulling a little before then, they start pulling more. if they are losing before third, that is when they start winning. and since they'd be shifting to third about the 1/8 mile mark, it doesn't surprise me their 1/8 mile times are slower than others. ------------------ If it ain't broke, make it go faster AOL: MCVillain45

09-27-2001, 10:09 PM	#9
donkey hunter Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: TN Posts: 9	I PERSONALY OWN A 98 SS CAMARO AND IT RAN A 9.29 AT 82.3 MPH WITH A 2.5 SIXTY FOOT TIME. I WOULD RUN YOUR MODIFIDED!!!!! COBRA WITH MY STOCK F-BODY AND WITH GOOD TIRES SMOKE YOU REAR END.

09-27-2001, 11:50 PM	#10
gt-hunter Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Weston, Florida USA Posts: 115	I guess some people just suck at driving cause my best n/a run to 1/8 was 8.634 @ 83.87mph and my worst was 8.905 @ 83.69mph. Mike ------------------ 1999 Z28 M6 Arctic White, *13.27 @ 106.39, 2.022 60' n/a*

09-28-2001, 11:19 AM	#11
CAMARO GUY Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 87	How many f-body owners are on this board?

09-28-2001, 12:14 PM	#12
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	TO MANY!

09-28-2001, 06:30 PM	#13
CAMARO GUY Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 87	HA HA

09-28-2001, 06:54 PM	#14
mustang marty gt Guest Posts: n/a	wwwwaaayyy too many.by the way donkey hunter , the governer called & said you are to be extridited to west va., by the way why are you hunting donkey's , a little sat night date ? hum .a stock ss beating a cobra hehe.eeeyaw ------------------ [This message has been edited by mustang marty gt (edited 09-28-2001).] [This message has been edited by mustang marty gt (edited 09-28-2001).]

09-30-2001, 04:06 PM	#16
bri32z street racing junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 231	Hey I want some of that SS too!!!!! They are easy prey ------------------ 95 gt:347 stroker balanced,edelbrock 150 shot, edelbrock intake and heads ported and matched, 70mm throttle body, 75mm mass air meter, 2040 cam, 1.7 cobra rockers,cold air induction, bbk equal lengths,high flow h-pipe, super chip, 24lb injectors,190lph fuel pump(bbk), under drive pulleys, 4;30 gears, Has other mods but not too sure what my mechanic did. Hoping for low 11's in the 1/4 mile. To see all mods look at my spec page. My Car: [URL=http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?

09-30-2001, 08:11 PM	#17
mustang marty gt Guest Posts: n/a	hey , B staNG & BRIE let him alone it's the weekend he is out on a date with his donkey, he does not have time to even look at a stang right now , maybe on mon night eeeyyyawww.

09-30-2001, 08:17 PM	#18
donkey hunter Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: TN Posts: 9	WE ARE DONKEYHUNTERS BECAUSE THATS WHAT'S ON THE FRONT OF YOUR CARS, IT KINDA RESEMBLES A HORSE BUT IT CAN'T BE ITS NOT FAST ENOUGH. I DO HAVE A SERIOUSE QUESTION IF COBRA'S ARE SO BAD HOW COME FORD HAD TO LIE FOR SIX YEARS ABOUT THE HP (NOT DONKEYPOWER) IN THEIR CARS. ALSO HOW COME EVERY TIME YOU SEE A DONKEY CAR THEY ARE ALWAYS REVING IT UP. IS IT AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX? IF THEY MAKE SO MUCH POWER HOW COME THEY ALWAYS USE NOS, SUPERCHARGERS, OR TURBOS. YOU KNOW GM MADE A SIX CYLINDER THAT WAS TURBO CHARGED AND RUNS 8 SECONDS IN 1/4 WIN MODIFIED. IF DONKEYS ARE SO FAST (ESPECIALLY NEW ONE'S) WHY DO YOU NOT SEE THEM IN SUPER STOCK OR STOCK ELIMINATOR, THE ONLY NEW CARS THAT RUN ARE CAMARO'S AND TRANS-AMS.

09-30-2001, 08:29 PM	#19
bri32z street racing junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 231	Hey Donkey Boy! I see that you are in TN. Right up the street from me. If you would like to run them let me know. I will even do it on just motor for ya if you would like. ------------------ 95 gt:347 stroker balanced,edelbrock 150 shot, edelbrock intake and heads ported and matched, 70mm throttle body, 75mm mass air meter, 2040 cam, 1.7 cobra rockers,cold air induction, bbk equal lengths,high flow h-pipe, super chip, 24lb injectors,190lph fuel pump(bbk), under drive pulleys, 4;30 gears, Has other mods but not too sure what my mechanic did. Hoping for low 11's in the 1/4 mile. To see all mods look at my spec page. My Car: [URL=http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?

09-30-2001, 08:30 PM	#20
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	Are you actually listening to this guy??? Some kids never learn... ------------------ Dustin 89 Saleen GT Sport,428 rwhp,TFS Street Heat Intake,TFS TW Heads,TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's 12.3@119 street tires 11.496@121.08slicks