Must've been a 4 cyl mustang - Page 3

cobrayankee · 03-13-2001, 10:16 AM

I'll be tuning in here this weekend to see the results as if it was the last episode of Temptation Island!

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1997 Cobra (Black on black), C+L 80mm MAF, K+N filter, Pro 5.0 shifter, BBK Springs, Taylor Wires, 2 Chamber Flows, ASP Pulleys, BBK off road H pipe.

st00pid · 03-13-2001, 10:20 AM

One more thing.. How would anyone with my mod list NOT make 480hp? did you even read it?

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92 honda civic
10.987 @ 131.5
full interior and street driven

Unit 5302 · 03-13-2001, 11:33 AM

Like I said, all I was asking was for a mod list.

My question to you inferno was much earlier, before I looked up and posted his mod list. Obviously with some serious modifications (nothing even remotely like what a stock '92 Civic looked like) he's making really good power.

I remain steadfast with my original statement, there is no way in hell a "stock" '92 Civic with a turbo is gonna make 480whp, or run 10's or 11's or 12's for that matter.

stOOpid came trolling for flames with his first post on the board, all I wanted was a mod list knowing what he claimed was possible with extensive modification (like he appearently has), but not with what he claimed, a stock '92 Civic with a turbo. I didn't get one until I went looking and digging for it.

I'll be the first one to admit that I don't know what mods make what kind of power on a 4banger import, but I am comfortable with calling blatent BS.

I also don't know what an "A" tranny or a "B" tranny is. Quite frankly, I don't care because they aren't going to be bolted into anything I drive. Can a '92 Civic tranny hold 480hp (4x what it was designed for, and at least 3x the torque load)? I really doubt it.

What can I say, with tons of digging it appears stOOpid has a very fast import. I would have liked a straight answer to my original question so I wouldn't have had to dig on my own, but no, I couldn't be furnished with that. If somebody will not stand up and answer a single question about his car, are you really gonna trust his initial outrageous claims?

If some newbie stanger were to post here and say he was running 10's with a stock '86 Mustang GT and a supercharger would we call BS? You've been here long enough to know we would, inferno. stOOpid, you haven't, but let me assure you, we would.

Like I said in my response earlier, the only reason stOOpid was flamed was for misrepresenting what he had (in a huge way), that and deciding to play with me, which everyone knows is a recipe for Charredtown.

Later,
Unit 5302

Unit 5302 · 03-13-2001, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dinomite:
I am totally with unit. If you would read anything else on this board, you would see that he knows what he is talking about, be it civics, rx-7s, or mustangs.

Thanks for the vote of confidence dinomite, but in this matter, if he's running what the mod list I posted says, he's gonna be a ebola pavement virus, gobbling up 1/4 mile asphalt like nobody's business.

I don't really know a ton about the FWD import scene. I try to keep my focus on RWD cars, since I hate FWD, I've owned it, I hate it.

I too had an import type car. 1991 Ford Escort GT with the Mazda 1.8L DOHC 16v engine. 127hp@6500rpm, and 114lb/ft@4500rpm. It was relatively fun to drive for a shoebox with a hamster in the front. With the exploding 5sp manual I even beat a couple 5.0 V-8 Cougars, and an LT-1 Camaro Z-28 top end (god was he pissed he didn't opt for the Z rated tires hehe). Unfortunately, like the other rice mobiles, it didn't match my 88 Mustang GT for fuel economy on the road. I drive at about 75mph over the road where the stang was bouncing near 30mpg. At that speed the 'Scort could only manage about 26 due to the little weedwacker spinning at a horrid 4000rpms. Anyway, it blew up the tranny (the pin retaining the gears was defective and dropped out), the computer fried (heater core leaked on it), and the fuel system eventually had to be completely hotwired by myself. That was my second experiance with FWD, the first was a MOPAR 91 Shitow, so obviously that wasn't a good experiance either. Thanks, but I'll take my torque for now.

Jaydee · 03-13-2001, 03:07 PM

Unit's shown a great amount of self control here. Fact: st00pid starts off two days ago stating that his "just like the factory built" except turbo'd 92 Civic runs 10's. Fact: The doubter's justifibly appear and respond to his claim. Fact: Despite numerious requests for a mod list, nothing (but flames) are posted. Fact: Unit (not st00pid) has to post the Honda's mod list - the mechanical contents of the list reveal nothing remotely resembling what came on a 92 Civic. Fact: This is probably a very fast Civic who's owner grossly mis-represented what he did to get his car to perform at this level and tries to make the members on this board believe that stock 92 Civic with a turbo can make 480hp. The moral of the story as I see it, is when you make the claim, be ready to back it up with some real facts and figures - remember, there are a lot of members on this board who actually do know their stuff and have been around cars for a long time and treating them like idiots is not a real good game plan. If st00pid had been honest and up front with what he did to his car, not claimed 480hp from his "factory equipped" but turbo'd Civic, and not made the members of this board search to find out what mod's were done to his car (showing it to be far from factory stock), I'm pretty sure the general tone would have been one more of respect for what he was able to do with his car. All he had to do was be honest from the start about the whole deal.

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1965 K code coupe - numbers matching - restoration ongoing. 1987 LX notch, 5 spd, stock heads (minor porting) and intake, 65mmTB, 3.55's, ram air, pulleys, shorty's, 2.5" exhaust with cats 13.89@100.25

inferno · 03-13-2001, 03:44 PM

Lets just end this arguement right now.....Fact: There was a misunderstanding about what work was done to stOOpid's car. Fact: We all can agree that his car is capable of running those numbers and having that amount of HP now that we know what is done. No need to continue this pointless arguement....nothing will be gained on either side. We all are car enthusiast here and we should congratulate stOOpid on his building of a very fast car. Let us forget the past and move on.

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"I know you don't really wanna, unleash the dragon..." Sisqo

Fostang · 03-13-2001, 03:57 PM

OK the imports running 9's have tubed frames and no interiors. You say your running a stock chassis with a full interior and you also say that you dont have all of the mods these guys have in essence your stating your missing 120 hp compared to those guys. How is it that you can still pull 10's with less engine and more weight? There is a guy aroudn here that has an integra that runs 11's and I aked him about the chassis his plain answer was it wouldn't take such a beating. Said you were full of it when I told him of your mods and you couldn't even run it on the street because of the rough idle it would have and noise pollution. He hardly ever drives his on the street because of that. That's what one of your fellow ricers told me. Now you tell me can I get $100 bucks also?

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67'fastback- Edelbrock carb, intake, cam, valve springs. Road lifters, Comp Cam rocker arms, windage tray, cerama coated headers, dual flows with H-pipe, modded c-4, tci stall converter, perma cool electric fan, aluminum water pump, griffen aluminum radiator, accel 8.8 cable, wide cap distriburator, magnetic pick up, manley valves, v-matic hurst shifter, edelbrock performer nitrous, carter electric fuel pump, ignitor coil, solid motor mounts, magna racing suspension, poly urathane bushings, und

Skyman · 03-13-2001, 04:07 PM

No doubt things were misrepresented here, only for the purpose of causing flame.

Anyways, my question is to inferno about the tranny's. What did my stock 94 integra have in it? Yeah I did beat on it. But with 142hp I busted 3rd gear, how could it hold up to 400?

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, 2 1/4" exhaust, and 4.10's.
332RWHP@5500
351RWTQ@3750
Runs on 87 Octane!

03-13-2001, 10:31 PM

It seems to me that stOOpid wasn't flaming anyone. Yea, maybe he was lookin for a little rumble at first, but we all do that. But after the first few posts from us (Stang owners) he actually complimented us. Also, He wasn't hiding anything. When you click on his video link it has his name (Jason) and anyone with half a brain could go to the domain and click on the membership, then go to his name. It seems to mew everything was fine until Unit "chimed in", then all the bolt on chronys followed suit. That's when it became ugly.

Unit 5302 · 03-13-2001, 11:46 PM

Wow, for a TROLL you're pretty intent on sticking around, 2MFF.

I guess it's all my fault that I didn't initially want to prove his combo for him? Why in the hell should I have to go digging into his combo when he falsely slaps it down on the table? Why don't you hop in your mom's Solara and cruise for some 12yr old boys like you're craving?

03-14-2001, 12:01 AM

Then why did you have to open your trap and post anything at all????? If you didn't have the facts and were too lazy to look for them, why did you make a post at all. You might want to look up "ignorant" in the dictionary: Unaware or uninformed.
My Solara is my work car. Just something to drive for work, and it still whooped a Cobra. My other cars are my toys (including 2 Mustangs - 2M)

inferno · 03-14-2001, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skyman:
No doubt things were misrepresented here, only for the purpose of causing flame.

Anyways, my question is to inferno about the tranny's. What did my stock 94 integra have in it? Yeah I did beat on it. But with 142hp I busted 3rd gear, how could it hold up to 400?

Sky

To be completely honest, I don't know how the hell you busted 3rd gear. I have heard of people messing up 2nd gear which is due to grinding, but I have never heard of anyone messing up third gear. I also never heard of anyone running a stock non-vtec Integra as fast as you have.

Fostang, the 9 second Hondas are not tube framed contrary to popular belief. He has enough HP to make it into the 9's, but he is about 600lbs too heavy and would need some suspension work. There is a full race Civic that has a best time of 10.05 and he has 480whp and made that run with an open diff. If you don't believe him, that is fine. I can't say for sure if he drives his car on the street daily, but with that HP, even with his high weight, his car should be running 10's.

Power · 03-14-2001, 05:32 AM

Maybe i missed it but did anyone ever authenticate the opposing car in the video posted by Z28EATR? I looked at the video and was wondering if that was an older(70's) corvette stingray?? I couldn't tell for sure which is why im asking.

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1966 Baby blue Coupe, 289 w/ man. 3-speed, nothing special but the fact that it is my first mustang. I am a former import guru....no more.

I've never run it except on the street, it has new wheels & tires, new exaust, and that about covers it. Looking to change a lot in the future including engine. Any ideas are appreciated.

dinomite · 03-14-2001, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unit 5302:
Thanks for the vote of confidence dinomite, but in this matter, if he's running what the mod list I posted says, he's gonna be a ebola pavement virus, gobbling up 1/4 mile asphalt like nobody's business.

Yes, but also, like you, i don't know what makes a civic fast, specifially, but he had stock engine internals on his mod list, thats what I was questioning.

Unit 5302 · 03-14-2001, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Power:
Maybe i missed it but did anyone ever authenticate the opposing car in the video posted by Z28EATR? I looked at the video and was wondering if that was an older(70's) corvette stingray?? I couldn't tell for sure which is why im asking.

Dodge Viper.

Kevin Price · 03-14-2001, 08:29 AM

Ok all, I think we can agree this has gone on long enough.

And stOOpid, making claims such as yours begs for a debate. Who's to say who is right or wrong, that is just the way it is.

Thanks to all for keeping it cool with this thread.

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SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide and a little blue bottle
of giggle gas. My Car

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03-13-2001, 10:16 AM	#41
cobrayankee Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 516	I'll be tuning in here this weekend to see the results as if it was the last episode of Temptation Island! ------------------ 1997 Cobra (Black on black), C+L 80mm MAF, K+N filter, Pro 5.0 shifter, BBK Springs, Taylor Wires, 2 Chamber Flows, ASP Pulleys, BBK off road H pipe.

03-13-2001, 10:20 AM	#42
st00pid Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Houston TX Posts: 10	One more thing.. How would anyone with my mod list NOT make 480hp? did you even read it? ------------------ 92 honda civic 10.987 @ 131.5 full interior and street driven

03-13-2001, 11:33 AM	#43
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Like I said, all I was asking was for a mod list. My question to you inferno was much earlier, before I looked up and posted his mod list. Obviously with some serious modifications (nothing even remotely like what a stock '92 Civic looked like) he's making really good power. I remain steadfast with my original statement, there is no way in hell a "stock" '92 Civic with a turbo is gonna make 480whp, or run 10's or 11's or 12's for that matter. stOOpid came trolling for flames with his first post on the board, all I wanted was a mod list knowing what he claimed was possible with extensive modification (like he appearently has), but not with what he claimed, a stock '92 Civic with a turbo. I didn't get one until I went looking and digging for it. I'll be the first one to admit that I don't know what mods make what kind of power on a 4banger import, but I am comfortable with calling blatent BS. I also don't know what an "A" tranny or a "B" tranny is. Quite frankly, I don't care because they aren't going to be bolted into anything I drive. Can a '92 Civic tranny hold 480hp (4x what it was designed for, and at least 3x the torque load)? I really doubt it. What can I say, with tons of digging it appears stOOpid has a very fast import. I would have liked a straight answer to my original question so I wouldn't have had to dig on my own, but no, I couldn't be furnished with that. If somebody will not stand up and answer a single question about his car, are you really gonna trust his initial outrageous claims? If some newbie stanger were to post here and say he was running 10's with a stock '86 Mustang GT and a supercharger would we call BS? You've been here long enough to know we would, inferno. stOOpid, you haven't, but let me assure you, we would. Like I said in my response earlier, the only reason stOOpid was flamed was for misrepresenting what he had (in a huge way), that and deciding to play with me, which everyone knows is a recipe for Charredtown. Later, Unit 5302

03-13-2001, 03:07 PM	#45
Jaydee Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Conn. Posts: 220	Unit's shown a great amount of self control here. Fact: st00pid starts off two days ago stating that his "just like the factory built" except turbo'd 92 Civic runs 10's. Fact: The doubter's justifibly appear and respond to his claim. Fact: Despite numerious requests for a mod list, nothing (but flames) are posted. Fact: Unit (not st00pid) has to post the Honda's mod list - the mechanical contents of the list reveal nothing remotely resembling what came on a 92 Civic. Fact: This is probably a very fast Civic who's owner grossly mis-represented what he did to get his car to perform at this level and tries to make the members on this board believe that stock 92 Civic with a turbo can make 480hp. The moral of the story as I see it, is when you make the claim, be ready to back it up with some real facts and figures - remember, there are a lot of members on this board who actually do know their stuff and have been around cars for a long time and treating them like idiots is not a real good game plan. If st00pid had been honest and up front with what he did to his car, not claimed 480hp from his "factory equipped" but turbo'd Civic, and not made the members of this board search to find out what mod's were done to his car (showing it to be far from factory stock), I'm pretty sure the general tone would have been one more of respect for what he was able to do with his car. All he had to do was be honest from the start about the whole deal. ------------------ 1965 K code coupe - numbers matching - restoration ongoing. 1987 LX notch, 5 spd, stock heads (minor porting) and intake, 65mmTB, 3.55's, ram air, pulleys, shorty's, 2.5" exhaust with cats 13.89@100.25

03-13-2001, 03:44 PM	#46
inferno The Instigator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: So Cal and Houston Posts: 764	Lets just end this arguement right now.....Fact: There was a misunderstanding about what work was done to stOOpid's car. Fact: We all can agree that his car is capable of running those numbers and having that amount of HP now that we know what is done. No need to continue this pointless arguement....nothing will be gained on either side. We all are car enthusiast here and we should congratulate stOOpid on his building of a very fast car. Let us forget the past and move on. ------------------ "I know you don't really wanna, unleash the dragon..." Sisqo

03-13-2001, 03:57 PM	#47
Fostang Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Stockton, Ca Posts: 599	OK the imports running 9's have tubed frames and no interiors. You say your running a stock chassis with a full interior and you also say that you dont have all of the mods these guys have in essence your stating your missing 120 hp compared to those guys. How is it that you can still pull 10's with less engine and more weight? There is a guy aroudn here that has an integra that runs 11's and I aked him about the chassis his plain answer was it wouldn't take such a beating. Said you were full of it when I told him of your mods and you couldn't even run it on the street because of the rough idle it would have and noise pollution. He hardly ever drives his on the street because of that. That's what one of your fellow ricers told me. Now you tell me can I get $100 bucks also? ------------------ 67'fastback- Edelbrock carb, intake, cam, valve springs. Road lifters, Comp Cam rocker arms, windage tray, cerama coated headers, dual flows with H-pipe, modded c-4, tci stall converter, perma cool electric fan, aluminum water pump, griffen aluminum radiator, accel 8.8 cable, wide cap distriburator, magnetic pick up, manley valves, v-matic hurst shifter, edelbrock performer nitrous, carter electric fuel pump, ignitor coil, solid motor mounts, magna racing suspension, poly urathane bushings, und

03-13-2001, 04:07 PM	#48
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	No doubt things were misrepresented here, only for the purpose of causing flame. Anyways, my question is to inferno about the tranny's. What did my stock 94 integra have in it? Yeah I did beat on it. But with 142hp I busted 3rd gear, how could it hold up to 400? Sky ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, 2 1/4" exhaust, and 4.10's. 332RWHP@5500 351RWTQ@3750 Runs on 87 Octane!

03-13-2001, 10:31 PM	#49
2MFF Guest Posts: n/a	It seems to me that stOOpid wasn't flaming anyone. Yea, maybe he was lookin for a little rumble at first, but we all do that. But after the first few posts from us (Stang owners) he actually complimented us. Also, He wasn't hiding anything. When you click on his video link it has his name (Jason) and anyone with half a brain could go to the domain and click on the membership, then go to his name. It seems to mew everything was fine until Unit "chimed in", then all the bolt on chronys followed suit. That's when it became ugly.

03-13-2001, 11:46 PM	#50
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	Wow, for a *TROLL* you're pretty intent on sticking around, 2MFF. I guess it's all my fault that I didn't initially want to prove his combo for him? Why in the hell should I have to go digging into his combo when he falsely slaps it down on the table? Why don't you hop in your mom's Solara and cruise for some 12yr old boys like you're craving?

03-14-2001, 12:01 AM	#51
2MFF Guest Posts: n/a	Then why did you have to open your trap and post anything at all????? If you didn't have the facts and were too lazy to look for them, why did you make a post at all. You might want to look up "ignorant" in the dictionary: Unaware or uninformed. My Solara is my work car. Just something to drive for work, and it still whooped a Cobra. My other cars are my toys (including 2 Mustangs - 2M)

03-14-2001, 05:32 AM	#53
Power Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oregon Posts: 420	Maybe i missed it but did anyone ever authenticate the opposing car in the video posted by Z28EATR? I looked at the video and was wondering if that was an older(70's) corvette stingray?? I couldn't tell for sure which is why im asking. ------------------ 1966 Baby blue Coupe, 289 w/ man. 3-speed, nothing special but the fact that it is my first mustang. I am a former import guru....no more. I've never run it except on the street, it has new wheels & tires, new exaust, and that about covers it. Looking to change a lot in the future including engine. Any ideas are appreciated.

03-14-2001, 08:29 AM	#56
Kevin Price Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Oxford, KS Posts: 935	Ok all, I think we can agree this has gone on long enough. And stOOpid, making claims such as yours begs for a debate. Who's to say who is right or wrong, that is just the way it is. Thanks to all for keeping it cool with this thread. ------------------ SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide and a little blue bottle of giggle gas. My Car