2000GT Convert can it hang with me?? - Page 2

Mad Horse · 04-03-2001, 06:38 PM

I can drive well but don't have no time slips yet to back it up. I do need to get the new clutch in though. I have to strong pedal my clutch too much now to get her in gear.

[This message has been edited by Mad Horse (edited 04-03-2001).]

82 GT · 04-03-2001, 09:57 PM

Rocket99GT, your math is a little off.
The '88 with the extra 30hp puts it at 255hp,just 5hp behind the 260hp of the 2000GT. You said the 2000 would still be 30hp ahead even with the mods of the '88(How do you figure that?)
BTW, '88 stangs were rated at 225hp not 220
Torque is what actually moves a car, not HP.
HP is a byproduct torque which only dictates max speed. With that in mind, the '88 will have more TORQUE plus better torque multiplication with the 3:73's
The '88 should win but then again you must factor in the skill of the drivers.
All in all it should prove to be a good race!

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'82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust.
1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

Lizard King · 04-03-2001, 10:01 PM

My bet goes on the 01GT ... the only reason It would loose is the weight factor on the rag top.

82 GT · 04-03-2001, 10:39 PM

Lizard King, you seem almost positive about the 2000GT winning......why?
The post says "2000GT can it hang with me?"
Can it hang with him...yes, Will it win...I doubt it. (drivers being the same skill level)

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'82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust.
1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

Mad Horse · 04-03-2001, 11:29 PM

Maybe we should start taking bids!! Then I could have my girlfriend tape us as proof of the winner?? Of course I don't think this board is up for gambling but I bet we would have about the same number of bids on each car. I guess I'm going to have to make sure he races me and if he won't see if he'll let someone else drive it for him.

[This message has been edited by Mad Horse (edited 04-04-2001).]

Rocket 99GT · 04-04-2001, 10:08 AM

"BLUE00GT" I think with does mods your car will be able to kick some butts. My car is like yours, I like to go around tight corners at high speed. I have seem people looking and I can see them wondering how can the car do that.
"82GT" you right man, my math was way Off. Nevertheless I was being very nice with 88GT by giving him 30HP.
You are right that torque is what moves a car and horse power helps in this equation, however you can have the best torque and 5000hp but if the suspension can handle both of this all you will get is tires spinning and a car going all over the place.
Just like "LIZARD KING" my bet goes on the 01GT.
Let's make it interesting and see how many people here vote for the the 88GT vs 01GT.

82 GT · 04-04-2001, 10:26 PM

Rocket99GT, 30hp seems about right for exhaust and pulleys. They claim 8-10hp just for pulleys and I would imagine that you get at least another 20 or so hp with a Flowmaster exhaust of 2.5 inches.
My vote is still for the '88GT

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'82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust.
1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

82 GT · 04-04-2001, 10:31 PM

I just noticed another thing. The 01GT is a convertable wich makes it even heavier.
Oh HELL YEAH for the '88GT

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'82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust.
1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

Lizard King · 04-05-2001, 12:08 AM

82GT, with my 2000GT I have raced many (at least 30 runs) 5.0 in that year range with more mods than his 88GT. The results where always the same... win on my end. Thinking that the mods on the 88GT are light, I believe that if both drivers are equally competent, the 01GT Vert will win by a small margin.

In fact I have raced a car in the same year range, that seems to have most of your mods including that 351... and it was a door to door race. What are your E.T.s?

oh and Mad Horse, what are your E.T.s at the track?

Any votes Rev and Fox Body?

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Lizard King, Bone Stock; 13.69 at 101MPH
• Extreme Burnout
•2000GT VS LS1
• Quartermile run
•2000GT vs LX Stang

Lizard King · 04-05-2001, 11:39 AM

it's gonna look like this...

http://www.hondahookup.com/videos/ye...ustang_5.0.zip

Mustang GT Vert wins by a small margin...

Try Me · 04-05-2001, 03:14 PM

Ha! That's what i thought.
You guys keep grilling the King, then he throws a video in your face proving that once again he's right; Then the threads end.
L.M.F.A.O!

Btw, the '01 will win.

82 GT · 04-05-2001, 03:20 PM

Lizard King, I never got a chance to take it to the track yet. I have raced an '89GT with some mods(cam,exhaust,pulleys,GT-40 intake) and won by a small margin. He claimed to run mid 13's with slicks.

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'82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust.
1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

Mad Horse · 04-05-2001, 03:46 PM

I haven't got to the track yet. I was going to go to Norwalk for Fun Ford weekend last summer but the guy repainting my car ran into some problems and didn't get my car back together in time.

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88GT 5-speed
Mods: Cervinis Ram air hood 3.73 gears, King Cobra clutch, Pro 5.0, March alum. Pullies, DynoMax Cat-back, K&N, 9mm plug wires, PS91 coil, Accel Cap/Rotor, 190lph Fuel pump, 16" Ponies.
"Nip it in the Bud"
My Webpage

Lizard King · 04-05-2001, 04:53 PM

Hey 82GT... when I raced that Stang with 351, I was sure had my skin before I started... that thing was so loud and jumpy. It looked like the pavement was gonna ruffle behind it's wheel on the launch.

You guys have to get some E.T.s.

I think 88GT is gonna hit mid 14s... have you ever raced a stock SN95? If yes how was it?

Fox Body · 04-05-2001, 06:00 PM

Okay, my turn.

First of all, like many others have already stated, this is gonna be a close race (both 5 speed manuals). However, I'm gonna have to put my bet on the 88 GT b/c:

1) Lighter
2) 5 speed manual (if it were AOD, it'd be different)
3) 3.73s
4) Other minor mods.

This is all assuming EQUAL driving skill. Now I have to say I COULD imagine it like this:

Both come off the line at the same time, but the 88 GT gains about 1/2 car length through 1rst and 2nd gear. Then at about mid 3rd gear, 2001 GT starts reeling him in and by 88 GT's 4rth gear, 2001 GT has him by a front bumper.

I'm still placing my bet on the 88 GT though.
(but it's hard to ******* tell b/c I haven't seen Mad Horse's GT run. (arrgh)

Don't screw up Mad Horse

-------------------------------
'79 Mustang Coup
4" Cowl
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8)
Stock 5.8L
C4 w/ shift kit
1 5/8" MAC shorty headers
Holley 750 CFM
Edelbrock Performer RPM intake
2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters
8.8" Rear end w/ 3.55 gears (Now that's more like it!!)

Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon)

"Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

Mad Horse · 04-05-2001, 09:07 PM

Fox Body: I don't plan on screwing up... besides he is going to be my father-in-law and I need to let him know who's Boss.

Lizard King: I have ran 3 different SN95's and beat them all on the street and not all of them were stock. One guy I had to beat 3 times in a row because he couldn't believe I was winning. My car is no slouch and is in great shape. It has 60k miles on it which is a good amount but still low for an 88GT. It's too bad she's never been to the track.

On a side note I had a run in with a modded 99GT last summer but it was raining and while he took off with his nice traction control I let off after spinning through 3 gears.

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88GT 5-speed
Mods: Cervinis Ram air hood 3.73 gears, King Cobra clutch, Pro 5.0, March alum. Pullies, DynoMax Cat-back, K&N, 9mm plug wires, PS91 coil, Accel Cap/Rotor, 190lph Fuel pump, 16" Ponies.
"Nip it in the Bud"
My Webpage

82 GT · 04-05-2001, 09:29 PM

Lizard King, come on..."88GT's from the factory ran mid-high 14's. Are you trying to say with the mods of the '88GT that has not made much of a difference????
That might be true if he has not figured out how to launch his car yet butI am sure he has it all figured out by now.
The 01GT is going to have to launch without traction control on if he wants a chance at this race. I am thinking he(01GT)will make the mistake of turning the T/C on and blowing the start or turn it off and get too excited and spin the tires excessively.
88GT will have to have a cool head at the start and get a good launch.
I will race the winner in my '82 then.

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'82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust.
1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

Fox Body · 04-05-2001, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mad Horse:
Fox Body: I don't plan on screwing up... besides he is going to be my father-in-law and I need to let him know who's Boss...

Alright Mad Horse, I got faith in ya man. Do you think he'll let you marry his daughter if you beat his new Stang??

-------------------------------
'79 Mustang Coup
4" Cowl
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8)
Stock 5.8L
C4 w/ shift kit
1 5/8" MAC shorty headers
Holley 750 CFM
Edelbrock Performer RPM intake
2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters
8.8" Rear end w/ 3.55 gears (Now that's more like it!!)

Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon)

"Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

04-09-2001, 07:10 PM

first of all the 2001 mustangs seem to be a bit quicker than the 2000s from my experience
i have a 1995 gt convertible automatic and i have ran a few 2000s 2001s and some older 5.0s in my opinion the 5.0 with those mods should beat the convertble by an inch maybe becuase of the 3.73 gears and that only. But it all depends on the drivers.

95 gt convert.-mods-
3.55 gears
cobra intake
65mm throttle body
fender cold air
underdrive pulleys
75mm mass air
1 5/8" equal headers
2 1/2" off road h pipe
2 1/2" borla catback
155 lph fuel pump
subframes

Mad Horse · 04-09-2001, 07:47 PM

I don't see how the 2001 would be any faster than the 2000. That is unless they changed something in the 2001 that I did not hear of. From what I know they are the same engines.

He still hasn't got the car yet so I imagine I'll have to wait till about the end of May before I get the oppurtunity to run him.

Fox Body: I'm not sure if he'd let me marry his daughter if I outrun his new stang. Maybe I'll have to throw the race or something. Maybe I'll accidentally miss 2nd or 3rd gear. Ahh, what am I talking about... I think I'll take the chance and go all out.

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88GT 5-speed
Mods: Cervinis Ram air hood 3.73 gears, King Cobra clutch, Pro 5.0, March alum. Pullies, DynoMax Cat-back, K&N, 9mm plug wires, PS91 coil, Accel Cap/Rotor, 190lph Fuel pump, 16" Ponies.
"Nip it in the Bud"
My Webpage

[This message has been edited by Mad Horse (edited 04-09-2001).]

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04-03-2001, 06:38 PM	#21
Mad Horse Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Dayton, OH., United States Posts: 467	I can drive well but don't have no time slips yet to back it up. I do need to get the new clutch in though. I have to strong pedal my clutch too much now to get her in gear. [This message has been edited by Mad Horse (edited 04-03-2001).]

04-03-2001, 09:57 PM	#22
82 GT Import Slayer Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 2,241	Rocket99GT, your math is a little off. The '88 with the extra 30hp puts it at 255hp,just 5hp behind the 260hp of the 2000GT. You said the 2000 would still be 30hp ahead even with the mods of the '88(How do you figure that?) BTW, '88 stangs were rated at 225hp not 220 Torque is what actually moves a car, not HP. HP is a byproduct torque which only dictates max speed. With that in mind, the '88 will have more TORQUE plus better torque multiplication with the 3:73's The '88 should win but then again you must factor in the skill of the drivers. All in all it should prove to be a good race! ------------------ '82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust. 1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

04-03-2001, 10:01 PM	#23
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	My bet goes on the 01GT ... the only reason It would loose is the weight factor on the rag top.

04-03-2001, 10:39 PM	#24
82 GT Import Slayer Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 2,241	Lizard King, you seem almost positive about the 2000GT winning......why? The post says "2000GT can it hang with me?" Can it hang with him...yes, Will it win...I doubt it. (drivers being the same skill level) ------------------ '82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust. 1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

04-03-2001, 11:29 PM	#25
Mad Horse Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Dayton, OH., United States Posts: 467	Maybe we should start taking bids!! Then I could have my girlfriend tape us as proof of the winner?? Of course I don't think this board is up for gambling but I bet we would have about the same number of bids on each car. I guess I'm going to have to make sure he races me and if he won't see if he'll let someone else drive it for him. [This message has been edited by Mad Horse (edited 04-04-2001).]

04-04-2001, 10:08 AM	#26
Rocket 99GT Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: gaithersburg md, 20879 usa Posts: 120	"BLUE00GT" I think with does mods your car will be able to kick some butts. My car is like yours, I like to go around tight corners at high speed. I have seem people looking and I can see them wondering how can the car do that. "82GT" you right man, my math was way Off. Nevertheless I was being very nice with 88GT by giving him 30HP. You are right that torque is what moves a car and horse power helps in this equation, however you can have the best torque and 5000hp but if the suspension can handle both of this all you will get is tires spinning and a car going all over the place. Just like "LIZARD KING" my bet goes on the 01GT. Let's make it interesting and see how many people here vote for the the 88GT vs 01GT.

04-04-2001, 10:26 PM	#27
82 GT Import Slayer Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 2,241	Rocket99GT, 30hp seems about right for exhaust and pulleys. They claim 8-10hp just for pulleys and I would imagine that you get at least another 20 or so hp with a Flowmaster exhaust of 2.5 inches. My vote is still for the '88GT ------------------ '82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust. 1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

04-04-2001, 10:31 PM	#28
82 GT Import Slayer Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 2,241	I just noticed another thing. The 01GT is a convertable wich makes it even heavier. Oh HELL YEAH for the '88GT ------------------ '82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust. 1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

04-05-2001, 12:08 AM	#29
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	82GT, with my 2000GT I have raced many (at least 30 runs) 5.0 in that year range with more mods than his 88GT. The results where always the same... win on my end. Thinking that the mods on the 88GT are light, I believe that if both drivers are equally competent, the 01GT Vert will win by a small margin. In fact I have raced a car in the same year range, that seems to have most of your mods including that 351... and it was a door to door race. What are your E.T.s? oh and Mad Horse, what are your E.T.s at the track? Any votes Rev and Fox Body? ------------------ Lizard King, Bone Stock; 13.69 at 101MPH • Extreme Burnout •2000GT VS LS1 • Quartermile run •2000GT vs LX Stang

04-05-2001, 11:39 AM	#30
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	it's gonna look like this... http://www.hondahookup.com/videos/ye...ustang_5.0.zip Mustang GT Vert wins by a small margin...

04-05-2001, 03:14 PM	#31
Try Me Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 465	Ha! That's what i thought. You guys keep grilling the King, then he throws a video in your face proving that once again he's right; Then the threads end. L.M.F.A.O! Btw, the '01 will win.

04-05-2001, 03:20 PM	#32
82 GT Import Slayer Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 2,241	Lizard King, I never got a chance to take it to the track yet. I have raced an '89GT with some mods(cam,exhaust,pulleys,GT-40 intake) and won by a small margin. He claimed to run mid 13's with slicks. ------------------ '82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust. 1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

04-05-2001, 03:46 PM	#33
Mad Horse Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Dayton, OH., United States Posts: 467	I haven't got to the track yet. I was going to go to Norwalk for Fun Ford weekend last summer but the guy repainting my car ran into some problems and didn't get my car back together in time. ------------------ 88GT 5-speed Mods: Cervinis Ram air hood 3.73 gears, King Cobra clutch, Pro 5.0, March alum. Pullies, DynoMax Cat-back, K&N, 9mm plug wires, PS91 coil, Accel Cap/Rotor, 190lph Fuel pump, 16" Ponies. "Nip it in the Bud" My Webpage

04-05-2001, 04:53 PM	#34
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	Hey 82GT... when I raced that Stang with 351, I was sure had my skin before I started... that thing was so loud and jumpy. It looked like the pavement was gonna ruffle behind it's wheel on the launch. You guys have to get some E.T.s. I think 88GT is gonna hit mid 14s... have you ever raced a stock SN95? If yes how was it?

04-05-2001, 06:00 PM	#35
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	Okay, my turn. First of all, like many others have already stated, this is gonna be a close race (both 5 speed manuals). However, I'm gonna have to put my bet on the 88 GT b/c: 1) Lighter 2) 5 speed manual (if it were AOD, it'd be different) 3) 3.73s 4) Other minor mods. This is all assuming EQUAL driving skill. Now I have to say I COULD imagine it like this: Both come off the line at the same time, but the 88 GT gains about 1/2 car length through 1rst and 2nd gear. Then at about mid 3rd gear, 2001 GT starts reeling him in and by 88 GT's 4rth gear, 2001 GT has him by a front bumper. I'm still placing my bet on the 88 GT though. (but it's hard to ***** tell b/c I haven't seen Mad Horse's GT run. (arrgh) Don't screw up Mad Horse** ------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup 4" Cowl Weld wheels (15x6;15x8) Stock 5.8L C4 w/ shift kit 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers Holley 750 CFM Edelbrock Performer RPM intake 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters 8.8" Rear end w/ 3.55 gears (Now that's more like it!!) Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II 14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon) "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

04-05-2001, 09:07 PM	#36
Mad Horse Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Dayton, OH., United States Posts: 467	Fox Body: I don't plan on screwing up... besides he is going to be my father-in-law and I need to let him know who's Boss. Lizard King: I have ran 3 different SN95's and beat them all on the street and not all of them were stock. One guy I had to beat 3 times in a row because he couldn't believe I was winning. My car is no slouch and is in great shape. It has 60k miles on it which is a good amount but still low for an 88GT. It's too bad she's never been to the track. On a side note I had a run in with a modded 99GT last summer but it was raining and while he took off with his nice traction control I let off after spinning through 3 gears. ------------------ 88GT 5-speed Mods: Cervinis Ram air hood 3.73 gears, King Cobra clutch, Pro 5.0, March alum. Pullies, DynoMax Cat-back, K&N, 9mm plug wires, PS91 coil, Accel Cap/Rotor, 190lph Fuel pump, 16" Ponies. "Nip it in the Bud" My Webpage

04-05-2001, 09:29 PM	#37
82 GT Import Slayer Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 2,241	Lizard King, come on..."88GT's from the factory ran mid-high 14's. Are you trying to say with the mods of the '88GT that has not made much of a difference???? That might be true if he has not figured out how to launch his car yet butI am sure he has it all figured out by now. The 01GT is going to have to launch without traction control on if he wants a chance at this race. I am thinking he(01GT)will make the mistake of turning the T/C on and blowing the start or turn it off and get too excited and spin the tires excessively. 88GT will have to have a cool head at the start and get a good launch. I will race the winner in my '82 then. ------------------ '82 GT 351W C-4,BBK headers,Carter 625 carb,Comp.Cam,Flowmaster exhaust. 1988 GT...T-5,bone stock

04-09-2001, 07:10 PM	#39
nate andrus Guest Posts: n/a	first of all the 2001 mustangs seem to be a bit quicker than the 2000s from my experience i have a 1995 gt convertible automatic and i have ran a few 2000s 2001s and some older 5.0s in my opinion the 5.0 with those mods should beat the convertble by an inch maybe becuase of the 3.73 gears and that only. But it all depends on the drivers. 95 gt convert.-mods- 3.55 gears cobra intake 65mm throttle body fender cold air underdrive pulleys 75mm mass air 1 5/8" equal headers 2 1/2" off road h pipe 2 1/2" borla catback 155 lph fuel pump subframes

04-09-2001, 07:47 PM	#40
Mad Horse Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Dayton, OH., United States Posts: 467	I don't see how the 2001 would be any faster than the 2000. That is unless they changed something in the 2001 that I did not hear of. From what I know they are the same engines. He still hasn't got the car yet so I imagine I'll have to wait till about the end of May before I get the oppurtunity to run him. Fox Body: I'm not sure if he'd let me marry his daughter if I outrun his new stang. Maybe I'll have to throw the race or something. Maybe I'll accidentally miss 2nd or 3rd gear. Ahh, what am I talking about... I think I'll take the chance and go all out. ------------------ 88GT 5-speed Mods: Cervinis Ram air hood 3.73 gears, King Cobra clutch, Pro 5.0, March alum. Pullies, DynoMax Cat-back, K&N, 9mm plug wires, PS91 coil, Accel Cap/Rotor, 190lph Fuel pump, 16" Ponies. "Nip it in the Bud" My Webpage [This message has been edited by Mad Horse (edited 04-09-2001).]