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04-16-2001, 10:27 PM | #1 |
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4.6L 2000GT's ego get's cut down...
I've been beaten by old rusted out 5.0 ... it was I guess an 87-91 (Can't tell the difference).
I was running on the Queensway (4 laner) with this car tailgaiting me. I was waiting for the guy infront of me to move over. So I say to the wife, hold on I'm gonna blow this moron off. Down shift in third and give it... the tailgater stays right there and then starts pulling up on me... He is right on my *** I can't blow him off at all!!! WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!!!!! We hit 120MPH, and I move on the right lane... an old POS rusted out 5.0 goes by. I'm thinking NOS, 351, exaust I mean this never happened before... So we pull out on our exit and this guy follows. At the light he says remember me, you beat me with my 5.0 silver stang last year (Yeah I remember that was like my first race with my new car.) I'm screaming "what feck do you have NOS, a 351... he says I'm stock that's my winter beater! I scream FECK OFFFF! you ain't normal, I can smell the giggle juice... so we stop at the next gas station. This car doesn't sound normal. He says, oh I have headers, intake, and exaust. (yah stock). So he didn't want to show me his trunk ... I was looking for the giggle juice like mad!!!! Anyways I convince him to go for a run from a stop ... I easily win on the first run, but on the second run,... this guy seems to go much fast when he hopes in third. What do all think???? NOS???? Or have I been totaly wrong about this and the 5.0 are faster on top end? I'm still shaking, this never happened before. I'm in disbelief. ------------------ Lizard King, Bone Stock; 13.69 at 101MPH • Extreme Burnout •2000GT VS LS1 • Quartermile run •2000GT vs LX Stang |
04-16-2001, 10:37 PM | #2 |
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I'm going to say he wasn't stock. I'm not sure but I don't think stock 5.0's have much above 5200-5500. I'm not positive though I could be wrong, but I'm going to go with he was spraying. If you say he started to come on strong in third then he must of been spraying. I don't know of any poweradder that you can just turn on except for NO2. If he was fully built them he would of probably taken you from a stop too, not just coming on in third. If he wouldn't pop the trunk then I would think giggle gas, thats what I'm going with; Could be wrong though?
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04-17-2001, 11:24 AM | #3 |
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Really? I'm still shaking after having read your kill!
You're right, any car that coast's by a mid-13 vehicle has to have some sort of power adder. I'm guessing a 200HP shot?!?! |
04-17-2001, 02:39 PM | #4 |
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Dude he sprayed that 5.0, they aren't makeing any power over 5200-5300 without heads and cam.
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04-17-2001, 02:49 PM | #5 |
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Clarification: He was not pulling at high RPM, he was pulling like mad at a speed of over 60MPH.
The car did sound pretty rough... I'm thinking it might of had Cams... It had problems on Idle. I was so mad. I mean this car was the worst looking 5.0 I have ever seen by a thousand mile. It looked like it needed to be put out of it's misery. |
04-17-2001, 02:57 PM | #6 |
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LOL This shits just too funny. 5.0's typicaly SUCK in third gear, theyre usealy great in the 8th mile but fall off in the last few gears. Maybe he had 410's?
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04-17-2001, 02:59 PM | #7 |
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You mean cam, we 5 liter guys have a single cam with our pushrod motors :-) What does your car run? I'll trust you when you say he had something, and given that he wouldn't show you the trunk.........but give these cars some credit. Stock they aren't as fast as the 99+ GTs, but its only a few tenths, and they are just as modable, if not much more so.
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04-17-2001, 03:22 PM | #8 |
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"...they're usually great in the 8th mile..."
What? I would rather run the 1/4 any day of the week. I have traction issues due to my stock suspension set-up so my 1/8 miles times aren't that great - I end up making it up on the far end of the track. I just wish I could get my 60' down so that I could get me a darn 12 sec slip! Guess it's time for some 70/30s! E ------------------ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 38,000 miles 13.17 @ 106.14 mph w/ 2.138 60' |
04-17-2001, 05:35 PM | #9 |
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Why are you complaining? 5.0 kick 4.6 *** all the time. Period. The 5.0 is superior in everyway. Period. End of discussion.
Okay Im just kidding, wanted to see what a ricer felt like. I hate when they write "period". As to the race, it's obvious he was running NOS. It takes several mods to run with the '99+ 4.6s especially on the top end. My brother ran against a CRX once in his '94 Caprice (LT1, high 14 car) and the CRX smoked him. The guy in the CRX skirted the tires more in second than he was capable in first and still more in third than he did in first and then was saying "it's all engine" but wouldn't show us the trunk or open the hood. ------------------ 1993 Mustang GT - March Ram Air & Pullies, K&N, C&L 73mm MAF, Super Competition Hooker Headers, 2 1/2 in. mandrel bent cat back, High Flow H-Pipe, Pro 5.0 Shifter, 16* Timing Advance |
04-17-2001, 05:35 PM | #10 |
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I love it! Reminds me of when I put my new motor in my car before it was painted, raggedy, primered, body filler patches, and a rusted out door from where the moulding was 82GT pulls up to a '97 Camaro SS (white with the orange stripes-LT4 car) at a red light, the guy laughs at me after I rev. At about 40mph I pulled ahead and opened up on him, damn, that was fun, made me almost not want to paint my car ...Sorry about the loss, Lizard.
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04-17-2001, 06:53 PM | #11 |
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Doesn't matter that the 5.0 doesn't pull like mad about 5300rpm. You just shift earlier.
BTW, I got my best mph shifting at 5800, 5600, and taking it through the end of the quarter in 3rd. As far as having anything up top, my car even after standard Gtech reduction is running about 100mph through the traps with exhaust and a clogged K&N and 2.73's. My 3rd gear kicks *** too. I haven't run into an LT-1 that can out run me in 3rd yet. 4th is another story, though. Here's my interpretation. He doesn't have any juice, you don't run 13.6's on the street, but he's obviously got mods. If he was gaining on you in 2nd for his car, then shifted to third he's already got the momentum, plus more hp, so when he finally goes by, it's gonna seem like he was accelerating faster in 3rd. I don't know why he had so many problems first run from a dead stop though, maybe he bogged or spun bad? My personal belief, his rusty old 5.0 runs good, and you finally ran across a solid running, lightly modded 5.0. Like mine, although I doubt I'd beat you right now. The 5.0 generally won't really fall off hard till about 120. [This message has been edited by Unit 5302 (edited 04-17-2001).] |
04-17-2001, 07:17 PM | #12 |
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Never underestimate an ugly Stang. This is how I ran my car on the street like this for about a month or two after I dropped the Windsor in it.
I surprised the doodoo out of one '96 Corvette owner, a very pretty and modded LX, an Eclipse driver and some other Stangs. (But my car was a little faster then than it is now.) As for the nitrous, naah, he didn't have any. I don't think there would be any question as to whether or not it was used on the other car. It's pretty hard not to notice (unless he was running a 20 hp shot ). His car was modded though, if even slightly, no question about that. ------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup w/ 4" Cowl Stock 5.8L, C4 w/ shift kit Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s 14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon) "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body |
04-17-2001, 07:29 PM | #13 |
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Foxbody, that has got to be the ricers vision of every mustang ever made! Im still laughing at that picture now. If I ran in to you on the street I probably wouldnt even rev. That is the BEST sleeper I have ever seen..major props.
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04-17-2001, 10:00 PM | #14 |
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Holy Dogdoo, Now that one looks reeeaaaaaalllllyyy bad!!!
This 5.0 could not beat me on the quarter mile, from the 2 races we had on the street. He could only wallop my azz on the Queensway at high speed. He blew me off at 200Kph (120MPH) like he was driving a freaking Viper. (i may be exagerating a bit...) I've seen what a nicely modify 5.0 stang will run on the street with street tires... this was like he hit VTEC in Third gear or some non sense. (Inferno, I know VTEC is inexistant when mentioned with Ford... just shut up. ) ------------------ Lizard King, Bone Stock; 13.69 at 101MPH • Extreme Burnout •2000GT VS LS1 • Quartermile run •2000GT vs LX Stang |
04-17-2001, 10:10 PM | #15 |
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Lizard,
There is absolutely no doubt that you have a very strong running 4.6. (A 101 trap speed with the mods you have speak volumes about how well its running) But... A 13.69 quarter mile isn't light speed... There's tons of light to moderately modded fox bodies running 13.6-13.0 on the street. And with the price of 5.0 parts, its pretty cheap to make them extremely fast... (Compared to the expense for our parts....sigh...) Basically, never judge a book by its cover, ESPECIALLY a fox body.... ------------------ "The Yellowjacket" Ricer 1: What the heck was that!? Ricer 2: I don't know. It looked kind of like a yellow SN95 Mustang. Ricer 1: Nah, fast SN95 Mustangs don't exist... Must have been a mirage or something... |
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Hey Lizard King which one looks worse, his or mine?? I only rode around like that for a little over 2 months. I think the only reason I got any races was either b/c my car sounded wicked (with only headers and off-road h pipe) or they thought they were gonna embarrass some POS stang--surprise. Mine has kinda been fixed up a little since then. Still need paint though. ------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup w/ 4" Cowl Stock 5.8L, C4 w/ shift kit Holley 750 cfm, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers, Al driveshaft 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters Front: 225/60/15, Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II Weld wheels (15x6;15x8), 8.8" Rear w/ 3.55s 14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon) "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body |
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04-17-2001, 11:32 PM | #17 |
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Dude, that one looks mean.
You got da hood and da wheels, you know... it looks ready to grumble and eat the pavement! |
04-17-2001, 11:37 PM | #18 |
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About the other one... I dunno man. That picture you got makes it look like it can't roll of without falling apart.
His had bumper pieces missing, a really awful dull pant... the bottom of doors where rotting out. I'd say on that picture yours looks like real piece of junk (sorry). |
04-18-2001, 01:34 AM | #19 |
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Sorry to burst your bubble but youve run a best of 101mph. Yeah thats awesome for your car thats stock, but its hardly untouchable on the street.
That was with your ram air. So you werent running that, maybe 1mph there. That puts you at 100mph. You said you had your wife in the car too. Im sure shes a 100+ lbs that puts you at 99mph. Ive seen a lot of 5.0s with stock heads run better mph than that. Not to mention if he had a head of steam when he passed you. If the weather wasnt the greatest or you didnt shift a gear to the optimum rpm you could easily be around the equivalent of 97.5-98mph. Hardly untouchable by a Rusty old 5.0. So don't act so shocked. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph Going for 11's on 87 octane with A/C and 20+MPG!!! |
04-18-2001, 01:39 AM | #20 |
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GOD I LOVE PRIMER!!
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