track times again...

exgmguy · 08-10-2002, 10:17 PM

I ran at the track again today. The temp was in the upper 80's, and the humidity was not terrible. I learned today that when ET Streets have no lines left in them, they are junk.
My 60 ft's were in the 1.9's when they used to be in the 1.5's when the tires were good.
Anyway, I ran 11.6-11.9 all day, and trapped a best of 124.96 mph. (I can call that 125 right???) before having the car tuned I ran a best mph of 123, but only once. Most of the previous passes were 121-122. Today they were all 124's.
Boost was 8 psi in the heat of the day, but EARLY this morning it was about 60 degrees and it made 11 psi through every gear.
I also could not run with the hose. I could not get jets in time. So I guess with some new ET Streets, I should have my first 10 second pass, and maybe a mid 10 after the nitrous.

Stang_Crazy · 08-10-2002, 10:49 PM

I assume that your liking the Novi 1000

But how did you see 11#?? I hope with a F150 crank pulley and a power pipe I'll see 8#. What is your set up?? I assume you have aftermaket heads, etc... I'm just wondering how you're seeing so much boost??

exgmguy · 08-11-2002, 05:43 AM

I have a basic heads/cam/intake 302. On these hot summer days I only see 8 psi, but on a cold morning I see 10-11. I started off seeing about 5 psi, then I had a smaller 2.75" blower pulley made by ASP, and saw 6.5-7 psi. Then I added a crank pulley from an Grand Marquis and that is where I am now. I have no powerpipe. Nobody makes one for the 1000 yet.
A guy down the street from me has a fairly stock 4.6 GT and he sees 13 psi with all the stock pulleys!

STEEDAJEFF · 08-11-2002, 03:33 PM

damn..... only 2 mph slower than me with less cubes and boost.....
i guess after 4 years my 347 is tired...

i see 18 Lbs at the shift light... sheesh.

Stangrrr · 08-12-2002, 12:37 PM

That's some great mph! I'd better watch it, you're starting to catch up!!!

exgmguy · 08-12-2002, 02:45 PM

Thinking about it now, I should have spent the extra grand or so and got the 2000. I know the 2000 makes a lot more power at a given boost level than the 1000. But then again There are usually only one or two streetcars at the track turning 120+ traps when I go, so I should be happy to run what I do with what I have.

89 Cobra LX · 08-13-2002, 02:49 PM

Exgmguy, your car is just sick. You're seeing awesome results with what seems to be a rather simple combo. I know you've got a lot of tuning time in it. It seems to be paying off!!!

87vert351 · 08-13-2002, 10:46 PM

Rob,

You need to get some new tires and things will be much better. In sept. if I make it out we'll have to line up. That race I had with Shawn was a blast. That was the best race I've had at the track in a long time.

That was one of the best days at the track I've had in a long time.

Rick

STEEDAJEFF · 08-14-2002, 07:10 PM

ExGM, who is burning your chips? your car is definitely hauling ***!

exgmguy · 08-14-2002, 09:19 PM

Detroit Speedworks did the chip and dyno tune for me. He found about 40 rwhp on the dyno. The chip also made the car much easier to drive. It used to have some part throttle bucking, and would never idle right.

www.detroitspeedworks.com

Red514LX · 08-16-2002, 08:15 PM

125mph out of a 306 and a Novi 1000..........unreal !!

Paxton should put your car in the magazines for advertising what their "little" 1000 can do hehehe. Well done!

This is yet more proof that dyno tuning is well worth the investment. You mentioned picking up 40rwhp but I bet the torque gained across the entire rpm range was really impressive!

exgmguy · 08-16-2002, 10:04 PM

Hey Jeff, Long time no see!

The hp and tq were up throughout the rpm range. Not just peak. Like I said, it made the car so much more fun to drive.

STEEDAJEFF · 08-17-2002, 07:30 AM

Ex GM-

Please tell me that you at least have some stage 2 heads on that thing?

Very impressed!

I had Johnson motorsports burn me an autologic chip- but it was mail order... so i think that some dyno time is in order.

Time to load the car up and head to Larocca's.

exgmguy · 08-17-2002, 04:21 PM

I don't believe much in mail order "guess" chips. I guess they can get you in the ballpark, but every car acts a little differently, so without a dyno and a wideband, it is really just a shot in the dark.

My heads are TFS Twisted Wedge's that have a little porting done to them. The are opened up to a Fel-Pro 1262. Alternative Auto farms out all their head work to my friend who owns Modern Cylinder head in Clinton Twp, Mi. He did them up for me.

But I do have an E-303 cam, so the heads are not being used nearly to their full potential.

Red514LX · 08-24-2002, 02:55 PM

Rob,

Check your PMs. Also, please e-mail me your current e-mail address. Thanks!

08-10-2002, 10:17 PM	#1
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	track times again... I ran at the track again today. The temp was in the upper 80's, and the humidity was not terrible. I learned today that when ET Streets have no lines left in them, they are junk. My 60 ft's were in the 1.9's when they used to be in the 1.5's when the tires were good. Anyway, I ran 11.6-11.9 all day, and trapped a best of 124.96 mph. (I can call that 125 right???) before having the car tuned I ran a best mph of 123, but only once. Most of the previous passes were 121-122. Today they were all 124's. Boost was 8 psi in the heat of the day, but EARLY this morning it was about 60 degrees and it made 11 psi through every gear. I also could not run with the hose. I could not get jets in time. So I guess with some new ET Streets, I should have my first 10 second pass, and maybe a mid 10 after the nitrous. __________________ 1988 Mustang GT stock bottom 302, C4 10.9 @ 128 with 8 psi of Novi 1000 boost!----STOLEN 1989 Mustang notchback Warmed up 306 with a Procharger.

08-10-2002, 10:49 PM	#2
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	I assume that your liking the Novi 1000 But how did you see 11#?? I hope with a F150 crank pulley and a power pipe I'll see 8#. What is your set up?? I assume you have aftermaket heads, etc... I'm just wondering how you're seeing so much boost?? __________________ ~Dan 2001 SVT Lightning 89' GT : Taking up garage space and waiting for a buyer... Rice Hater's Club - Member #11

08-11-2002, 03:33 PM	#4
STEEDAJEFF Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: CT Posts: 125	damn..... only 2 mph slower than me with less cubes and boost..... i guess after 4 years my 347 is tired... i see 18 Lbs at the shift light... sheesh. __________________ 1988 STEEDA LX 347, D1-R 10.84 @ 127

08-12-2002, 12:37 PM	#5
Stangrrr Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Toronto, Ont. Canada Posts: 664	That's some great mph! I'd better watch it, you're starting to catch up!!! __________________ SOLD - '91 LX, Paxton Novi 20000, etc, etc. 10.784 @ 133.92 on BFG Drag Radials (275/60/15) formerly known as SisuStang

08-13-2002, 02:49 PM	#7
89 Cobra LX Don Corlione Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Omaha NE USA Posts: 491	Exgmguy, your car is just sick. You're seeing awesome results with what seems to be a rather simple combo. I know you've got a lot of tuning time in it. It seems to be paying off!!! __________________ Eric - 89 Mustang LX coupe 5 speed 302-Cobra Intake-GT40p heads-TFS stage 1 cam-FRPP 1.6 roller rockers-3:73 gears-KYB shocks and struts-Eibach Pro-kit-HPM Mega-bite upper and lower control arms-FRPP aluminum driveshaft-16x8 Chrome Cobra Rs R.H.C. #14

08-11-2002, 05:43 AM	#3
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	I have a basic heads/cam/intake 302. On these hot summer days I only see 8 psi, but on a cold morning I see 10-11. I started off seeing about 5 psi, then I had a smaller 2.75" blower pulley made by ASP, and saw 6.5-7 psi. Then I added a crank pulley from an Grand Marquis and that is where I am now. I have no powerpipe. Nobody makes one for the 1000 yet. A guy down the street from me has a fairly stock 4.6 GT and he sees 13 psi with all the stock pulleys!

08-12-2002, 02:45 PM	#6
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	Thinking about it now, I should have spent the extra grand or so and got the 2000. I know the 2000 makes a lot more power at a given boost level than the 1000. But then again There are usually only one or two streetcars at the track turning 120+ traps when I go, so I should be happy to run what I do with what I have.

08-13-2002, 10:46 PM	#8
87vert351 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Posts: 43	Rob, You need to get some new tires and things will be much better. In sept. if I make it out we'll have to line up. That race I had with Shawn was a blast. That was the best race I've had at the track in a long time. That was one of the best days at the track I've had in a long time. Rick

08-14-2002, 07:10 PM	#9
STEEDAJEFF Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: CT Posts: 125	ExGM, who is burning your chips? your car is definitely hauling ***! __________________ 1988 STEEDA LX 347, D1-R 10.84 @ 127

08-14-2002, 09:19 PM	#10
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	Detroit Speedworks did the chip and dyno tune for me. He found about 40 rwhp on the dyno. The chip also made the car much easier to drive. It used to have some part throttle bucking, and would never idle right. www.detroitspeedworks.com

08-16-2002, 08:15 PM	#11
Red514LX Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 119	125mph out of a 306 and a Novi 1000..........unreal !! Paxton should put your car in the magazines for advertising what their "little" 1000 can do hehehe. Well done! This is yet more proof that dyno tuning is well worth the investment. You mentioned picking up 40rwhp but I bet the torque gained across the entire rpm range was really impressive! __________________ Jeff 1990 LX Mustang Coupe

08-16-2002, 10:04 PM	#12
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	Hey Jeff, Long time no see! The hp and tq were up throughout the rpm range. Not just peak. Like I said, it made the car so much more fun to drive.

08-17-2002, 07:30 AM	#13
STEEDAJEFF Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: CT Posts: 125	Ex GM- Please tell me that you at least have some stage 2 heads on that thing? Very impressed! I had Johnson motorsports burn me an autologic chip- but it was mail order... so i think that some dyno time is in order. Time to load the car up and head to Larocca's. __________________ 1988 STEEDA LX 347, D1-R 10.84 @ 127

08-17-2002, 04:21 PM	#14
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	I don't believe much in mail order "guess" chips. I guess they can get you in the ballpark, but every car acts a little differently, so without a dyno and a wideband, it is really just a shot in the dark. My heads are TFS Twisted Wedge's that have a little porting done to them. The are opened up to a Fel-Pro 1262. Alternative Auto farms out all their head work to my friend who owns Modern Cylinder head in Clinton Twp, Mi. He did them up for me. But I do have an E-303 cam, so the heads are not being used nearly to their full potential.

08-24-2002, 02:55 PM	#15
Red514LX Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 119	Rob, Check your PMs. Also, please e-mail me your current e-mail address. Thanks! __________________ Jeff 1990 LX Mustang Coupe

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