Back in the saddle again!!!

exgmguy · 06-02-2001, 11:16 PM

I put my engine back together and headed out to Gratiot to catch a few runs.
The first was a stock looking black LT1 Z28. We went from a mid 2nd gear roll, and by the time I shifted into 3rd he was visible in my rearview. I kept in it till the top of 3rd and had many carlenghths.

He said at the next light that he runs high 13's.
The second race was a red Fox GT. It had a nice lumpy idle, but also had 2 passengers. I let him have the jump then skated by about the same as the Z28.
Then comes the good race. It was a sweet black LT1 SS that had "FORCFED" for a plate, along with a cage (I think?..) and an Autometer catalog of gauges. He had a very nice audible whine.
We cruise next to each other for a mile or so to let traffic clear, hsssss says the bottle as it opens, then hit it from my 2nd gear. We are pretty much next to each other with me edging slightly. Shiftlight-bang 3rd and I keep inching ahead till the top of 3rd where we both let off. I had about a car on him.

My plate reads 12SECGT and said something like yeah right 12 seconds! What 12 seconds flat? I said yeah, 12 flat on street tires.

We chatted at the next light for a second then I came home.

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1988 Mustang GT
12.0 @ 122
1992 BadAzz Wrangler
1993 Explorer

96SNAKE · 06-03-2001, 12:26 AM

nice kills.

i would have liked to have seen that last race..

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formerly 96cobra89lx306

(96Cobra/softtop-3.73,almdrvsht,fancontrl,steeda sbfrmes+shifter,eibachspgs,KYB's,FR-upper arms,Saleen copy-polished 18's,pulleys,Bassani X pipe(gutted),C&L 80mm
Cobra DYNO 301rwhp horsepower before gutting the X pipe
93 Ford Probe Gt(slower but turns)

sedanman · 06-03-2001, 11:52 AM

Sounds like a hell of a kill(s). I can't wait to get the motor back in my stang. Then the kill's will come a postin.

exgmguy · 06-03-2001, 03:41 PM

My car was apart for 3 weeks and I was jonesin' like a crack ***** !!!!

1BAD89 · 06-03-2001, 06:11 PM

That's awesome! I haven't had a good race in a long time. 12 seconds flat on street tires huh? What all have you done to your car? Wish my car ran 12 flat! =P Good kill's. See ya.

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3:55's,BBK Off-Road H-pipe,BBK jet-hot coated equal length shorty headers,BBK 70mm Throttle Body,BBK adjustable clutch quadrant,C & L 76mm Mass air meter,Cobra R's 17x9 w/ 245's,Trick Flow Intake,Flowmaster Force II exhaust system, Super Duty T5,Centerforce II Clutch,Heavy Duty Radiator,9mm Ford racing plug wires,Accel cap and Rotor
http://www.geocities.com/i8urvpr/JM.html?987369348700

exgmguy · 06-03-2001, 07:15 PM

I have a stock short block, ported TFS heads, ported GT-40, E-303, full exhaust, the usual stuff. Also a 100 shot of nitrous.

My car is pretty light though. 2760 lbs without me.

EZRIDN · 06-03-2001, 09:39 PM

SOunds like your car is running real strong....what happened to the motor?

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'86 GT.
Gears & Flows

'87 GT.
Stock

exgmguy · 06-04-2001, 03:24 PM

It is running a LOT better now. My TFS Twisted Wedge heads were wasted. It was ticking all the time after numerous valve adjustments, and burning mega oil.
I had the old cast iron guides in them and almost all of them were oval. Also my valves were floating so bad that the retainers were beating into the valve tip and mushroomed most of them. Now I have new bronze manganese guides, all new valves, and triple valve springs.

380.00 later.....

Skyman · 06-05-2001, 02:47 AM

Nice to see your gettin some good runs there rob. Damn, Im dying to finish my nitrous install now. Hell, Im doing it tomrrow morning! You got me motivated

.

Hey since we have very similar motors can I ask you a few questions on the NOS?

I have a wet kit, but how much timing do you retard, and what plugs/gap do you run etC?

Thanks,

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
50-175 Nitrous Works WET Kit just added.

SaleenGTS · 06-05-2001, 08:39 AM

exgmguy-

What ever happened to that S-Trim you had?

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Dustin
89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp UNTUNED(TFS Intake, spacer,Heads and #2 cam, BD-11A 9#(only boosting 6???WTF),1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MSD 6BTM,FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes and H-Pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55 lots more...

12.564@118.49 on street tires is my best so far. Still untuned

302 LX Eric · 06-05-2001, 11:58 AM

exgm - Nice kills. Good to hear that you got the head thing worked out.

E

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1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 38,000 miles

13.17 @ 106.14 mph w/ 2.138 60'

exgmguy · 06-05-2001, 12:01 PM

I sold the blower. I am getting married July 1st and could'nt put the money needed into the blower to make it work right. (brackets, 42 lb injectors, custom chip, dyno tune, powerpipe)

Sky, I have the dry stage 1 shot that I jetted for approx. 100 hp. I set it up to spray a little rich so I don't take any timing out at all. I run 15 degrees base timing. I could probably lean out the spray a little, but I wanted a good margin of saftey. For plugs I use Champion RC9YC's gapped at .035.

Skyman · 06-06-2001, 03:03 PM

Rob- Thats cool. Im running 16 base now, and I'd like to be able to leave it there for a 125shot. What did you do to run it richer? It calls for 40psi fuel pressure, did you just up that? Or I bet I could get a larger fuel jet than its calibrated for for a cirtain HP?

Sky

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows.
12.55@107mph
50-175 Nitrous Works WET Kit just added.

exgmguy · 06-07-2001, 05:25 PM

I don't know about wet kits, but my dry kit has a "fuel jet", and a "nitrous jet". The nitrous jet obviously meters the amout of n2o released into the engine.
The fuel jet is used to regulated n20 that is applied to the fuel pressure regulator diaphram. This does not allow gas to return to the tank, therefore spiking fuel pressure.

On my kit the fuel jet is actually a bypass jet. For me to increase fuel pressure on the spray I use a smaller fuel jet. Less nitrous is let into the engine via the vacuum line, and applied to the fuel pressure regulator.

Sorry if that sounds stupid. 4:20 was about 2 hours ago.....

exgmguy · 06-07-2001, 05:33 PM

I would go up 2 jet sizes on fuel for your wet kit and spray it in 3rd gear after the cars has really warmed up. Any hint of detonation, get off the throttle.

I did this at the track and pulled over on the return road and checked a few plugs. Look for melted electrodes, melted porcelin, sparkles from melted aluminum. The tips of my plugs are white, but there is a little grayish tinge to one specific spot on each plug.

Oh yeah, no more 87 octane.

I run Sunoco 94 just to be safe.

06-02-2001, 11:16 PM	#1
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	Back in the saddle again!!! I put my engine back together and headed out to Gratiot to catch a few runs. The first was a stock looking black LT1 Z28. We went from a mid 2nd gear roll, and by the time I shifted into 3rd he was visible in my rearview. I kept in it till the top of 3rd and had many carlenghths. He said at the next light that he runs high 13's. The second race was a red Fox GT. It had a nice lumpy idle, but also had 2 passengers. I let him have the jump then skated by about the same as the Z28. Then comes the good race. It was a sweet black LT1 SS that had "FORCFED" for a plate, along with a cage (I think?..) and an Autometer catalog of gauges. He had a very nice audible whine. We cruise next to each other for a mile or so to let traffic clear, hsssss says the bottle as it opens, then hit it from my 2nd gear. We are pretty much next to each other with me edging slightly. Shiftlight-bang 3rd and I keep inching ahead till the top of 3rd where we both let off. I had about a car on him. My plate reads 12SECGT and said something like yeah right 12 seconds! What 12 seconds flat? I said yeah, 12 flat on street tires. We chatted at the next light for a second then I came home. ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT 12.0 @ 122 1992 BadAzz Wrangler 1993 Explorer

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06-03-2001, 12:26 AM	#2
96SNAKE Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: allentown,pa,u.s. Posts: 780	nice kills. i would have liked to have seen that last race.. ------------------ formerly 96cobra89lx306 (96Cobra/softtop-3.73,almdrvsht,fancontrl,steeda sbfrmes+shifter,eibachspgs,KYB's,FR-upper arms,Saleen copy-polished 18's,pulleys,Bassani X pipe(gutted),C&L 80mm Cobra DYNO 301rwhp horsepower before gutting the X pipe 93 Ford Probe Gt(slower but turns)

06-03-2001, 11:52 AM	#3
sedanman Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 963	Sounds like a hell of a kill(s). I can't wait to get the motor back in my stang. Then the kill's will come a postin.

06-03-2001, 03:41 PM	#4
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	My car was apart for 3 weeks and I was jonesin' like a crack ***** !!!!

06-03-2001, 06:11 PM	#5
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	That's awesome! I haven't had a good race in a long time. 12 seconds flat on street tires huh? What all have you done to your car? Wish my car ran 12 flat! =P Good kill's. See ya. ------------------ 3:55's,BBK Off-Road H-pipe,BBK jet-hot coated equal length shorty headers,BBK 70mm Throttle Body,BBK adjustable clutch quadrant,C & L 76mm Mass air meter,Cobra R's 17x9 w/ 245's,Trick Flow Intake,Flowmaster Force II exhaust system, Super Duty T5,Centerforce II Clutch,Heavy Duty Radiator,9mm Ford racing plug wires,Accel cap and Rotor http://www.geocities.com/i8urvpr/JM.html?987369348700

06-03-2001, 07:15 PM	#6
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	I have a stock short block, ported TFS heads, ported GT-40, E-303, full exhaust, the usual stuff. Also a 100 shot of nitrous. My car is pretty light though. 2760 lbs without me.

06-03-2001, 09:39 PM	#7
EZRIDN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 504	SOunds like your car is running real strong....what happened to the motor? ------------------ '86 GT. Gears & Flows '87 GT. Stock

06-04-2001, 03:24 PM	#8
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	It is running a LOT better now. My TFS Twisted Wedge heads were wasted. It was ticking all the time after numerous valve adjustments, and burning mega oil. I had the old cast iron guides in them and almost all of them were oval. Also my valves were floating so bad that the retainers were beating into the valve tip and mushroomed most of them. Now I have new bronze manganese guides, all new valves, and triple valve springs. 380.00 later.....

06-05-2001, 02:47 AM	#9
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Nice to see your gettin some good runs there rob. Damn, Im dying to finish my nitrous install now. Hell, Im doing it tomrrow morning! You got me motivated . Hey since we have very similar motors can I ask you a few questions on the NOS? I have a wet kit, but how much timing do you retard, and what plugs/gap do you run etC? Thanks, Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph 50-175 Nitrous Works WET Kit just added.

06-05-2001, 08:39 AM	#10
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	exgmguy- What ever happened to that S-Trim you had? ------------------ Dustin 89 GT(Saleen Clone) 392 rwhp UNTUNED(TFS Intake, spacer,Heads and #2 cam, BD-11A 9#(only boosting 6???WTF),1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MSD 6BTM,FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes and H-Pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55 lots more... 12.564@118.49 on street tires is my best so far. Still untuned

06-05-2001, 11:58 AM	#11
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	exgm - Nice kills. Good to hear that you got the head thing worked out. E ------------------ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 38,000 miles 13.17 @ 106.14 mph w/ 2.138 60'

06-05-2001, 12:01 PM	#12
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	I sold the blower. I am getting married July 1st and could'nt put the money needed into the blower to make it work right. (brackets, 42 lb injectors, custom chip, dyno tune, powerpipe) Sky, I have the dry stage 1 shot that I jetted for approx. 100 hp. I set it up to spray a little rich so I don't take any timing out at all. I run 15 degrees base timing. I could probably lean out the spray a little, but I wanted a good margin of saftey. For plugs I use Champion RC9YC's gapped at .035.

06-06-2001, 03:03 PM	#13
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Rob- Thats cool. Im running 16 base now, and I'd like to be able to leave it there for a 125shot. What did you do to run it richer? It calls for 40psi fuel pressure, did you just up that? Or I bet I could get a larger fuel jet than its calibrated for for a cirtain HP? Sky ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, headers and 3chamber flows. 12.55@107mph 50-175 Nitrous Works WET Kit just added.

06-07-2001, 05:25 PM	#14
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	I don't know about wet kits, but my dry kit has a "fuel jet", and a "nitrous jet". The nitrous jet obviously meters the amout of n2o released into the engine. The fuel jet is used to regulated n20 that is applied to the fuel pressure regulator diaphram. This does not allow gas to return to the tank, therefore spiking fuel pressure. On my kit the fuel jet is actually a bypass jet. For me to increase fuel pressure on the spray I use a smaller fuel jet. Less nitrous is let into the engine via the vacuum line, and applied to the fuel pressure regulator. Sorry if that sounds stupid. 4:20 was about 2 hours ago.....

06-07-2001, 05:33 PM	#15
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	I would go up 2 jet sizes on fuel for your wet kit and spray it in 3rd gear after the cars has really warmed up. Any hint of detonation, get off the throttle. I did this at the track and pulled over on the return road and checked a few plugs. Look for melted electrodes, melted porcelin, sparkles from melted aluminum. The tips of my plugs are white, but there is a little grayish tinge to one specific spot on each plug. Oh yeah, no more 87 octane. I run Sunoco 94 just to be safe.