Raced a 4.6GT tonight

stng87 · 04-09-2001, 09:22 PM

There was a car turning left in front of me and after it turned I pulled next to the 4.6(95-98) and we both took off. I was about half a link ahead when he shifted to 2nd, and I just burried him. I figured it was just a missed gear but then I was stopped at a light and the GT came rolling up behind me slow so he never had to come to a stop before the light turned. That worked ok but the 4.10's saved me. I was even with his rear bumper then pulled away hard. Are the gt's that bad? For now Im just passing it off as a couple of missed gears or a rice boy driving a stang.

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1987 black with t-tops. Cobra intake, 1.7 cobra crane rollers, gt40p's, bbk shorties, off road h-pipe, adj. FPR, rebuilt aod w/shift kit, 65mm TB, 4.10's 12.90's at best probably less.
*** AOD's
Semper Fi

Lizard King · 04-09-2001, 11:06 PM

In those years ... yes they where that bad... mid to high 14s, ... it should be no suprise to you if you run that 12.9.

BTW, is that an actual track time? 12.90 or is that estimated?

If you run the 99+, you would have a better challenge.

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Lizard King, Bone Stock; 13.69 at 101MPH
• Extreme Burnout
•2000GT VS LS1
• Quartermile run
•2000GT vs LX Stang

stng87 · 04-09-2001, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lizard King:
In those years ... yes they where that bad... mid to high 14s, ... it should be no suprise to you if you run that 12.9.

BTW, is that an actual track time? 12.90 or is that estimated?

If you run the 99+, you would have a better challenge.

I have no proof of the 12.90, I just have it in there because I raced a "souped up" spirit with a 383 stroker and this guy was mad but he did say that his car ran high 12's. I figure I have to be better than that if I beat him by a car length. However in the world of estimating et's, we always seem to inadvertantly inflate them. Thats why I say "12.90 at best, maybe less". Plus I have an aod but thats soon to change.
Also the post about the dodge spirit race is in here somewhere. I'd search for Dodge spirit or something like that.

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1987 black with t-tops. Cobra intake, 1.7 cobra crane rollers, gt40p's, bbk shorties, off road h-pipe, adj. FPR, rebuilt aod w/shift kit, 65mm TB, 4.10's 12.90's at best probably less.
*** AOD's
Semper Fi

Lizard King · 04-10-2001, 12:05 AM

I think we need Rev's assistance here.

I just find that time a bit low for your mods. (I'm no 302 expert...) Are you going to the track soon?

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Lizard King, Bone Stock; 13.69 at 101MPH
• Extreme Burnout
•2000GT VS LS1
• Quartermile run
•2000GT vs LX Stang

onewheeldeal · 04-10-2001, 01:08 AM

i'm a rice boy, i can drive.

rice boys can drive, jsut don't have the vehicles to back it up.

ronnie

FivepointOH · 04-10-2001, 01:20 AM

Good race, you should have no problem annihilating a near stock 95-98 gt. I think you'd probably pull a 99+ gt pretty good too. As to the 12.9... that's probably a little too optimistic. Not saying your car doesn't run it but I have an AOD and with your mods I'd think you would be running more around 13.4-13.7, especially without a converter. Not saying you don't run 12.9, it's possible though. Get it to the track and find out.

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92 AOD GT, K&N, ram air, pulleys, 2 ch. flowmasters, 4:10's, shift kit, 1 5/8 mac longtubes and offroad hpipe 14.249 @ 97.34 mph before the headers and hpipe

stng87 · 04-10-2001, 10:38 AM

****, I knew this would happen. Im not saying that I DO run the 12.9, its just the best case senereo estimate, hense the "probably less" in the sig. No need to argue times here as I said I "have no proof" (never had it to the track) Just looking for insight on the 98gt. You think its less? Good you're probably right. No arguement.

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1987 black with t-tops. Cobra intake, 1.7 cobra crane rollers, gt40p's, bbk shorties, off road h-pipe, adj. FPR, rebuilt aod w/shift kit, 65mm TB, 4.10's 12.90's at best probably less.
*** AOD's
Semper Fi

sedanman · 04-10-2001, 11:44 AM

It sounds like you have a pretty sweet 5 liter but I can't help but to agree with fivepointOH Those damn AOD just kill ET's especially out of the hole I to would expect 13.5-13.8.

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1991 Lx sedan 5.0, 5spd, GT-40 Heads, Cobra intake, 73MM mass air, 65mm TB, FPR, 24lb injectors, E303, Headers,off road H-pipe, Flows, K&n , hurst, 3:55's, pullies,electric fan, mac upper and lower control arms, HD trac-loc, lakewood 50/50's on back, shift light, centerforce dual friction, and rebuilt heavy duty T5, A/C SP delete 255/50/16 BFG DR AL D/S
New time
13.2@105.5

fastang · 04-10-2001, 01:47 PM

Dont get mad dude! No ones calling you a liar. Lizard runs fast for what he's got, You could too. I myself will never make an estimate on my et again EVER. I beat a modded 98 cobra, a few new GT's, and hung with an LS1 till 4th, So I figured I could pull a high 13, maybe a 13.50 at absolute best. When I went to the track I spun horribly (even with drag radials) and hit a 14.4 at 98mph detonating down the track. The car really needs some tuning

Henceforth I will never make an estimate again.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

Lizard King · 04-10-2001, 05:30 PM

It's just the "probably less" can go the other way... like you know "I run 14.0 but it could be probably less..." ... does that mean 13.8 or 14.2????

We ain't flaming, but I'm with fastang, you should only post an actual time you had. Anything else would be setting you up for a drop...

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Lizard King, Bone Stock; 13.69 at 101MPH
• Extreme Burnout
•2000GT VS LS1
• Quartermile run
•2000GT vs LX Stang

Rev · 04-10-2001, 06:09 PM

OK,here's my experience. 4.6's can be good or not so good. I've been up against 4.6 Cobras on the street (verts, admittedly) that I beat. I actually ran even (believe it or not) with a blown '99 Cobra at the strip, with a roots style blower, but he was only tuning and running 3 lbs. of boost. I talked to him on the return road. He ran 13.7 and I ran 13.8. Some '99-01 4.6 GT's run like Lizard Kings......well into the mid 13's almost stock. Some LS1's run like LS1Jay's, previously mentioned here that go low 13's. I'm personally gonna go against anyboby street or strip as we really only know what's gonna happen afterwards. I've won against people where I had no right. Ive been beat where I thought I had it in the bag. Do we ever know until after it's over? I guess that's my question? Me, I'm gonna run anyway, where ever.

Rev

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'66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph
1/4 mi.

46stang · 04-12-2001, 01:55 PM

96-98 4.6 gt are dogs. mine ran a best of 14.75 at 95mph with several bolt on's. they are even slower with an auto, and even slower if the driver revs it past 5k rpm.

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96 stang,ported 99 heads, 99 intake, 99 cams,Steeda power pullies, 373's, 70mm t/b, gutted maf, bassani x-pipe w/cats, ultraflow catback,iat mod, home depot ram air, k@n. fms spings, tri-ax shifter.

04-09-2001, 09:22 PM	#1
stng87 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: southern california Posts: 329	Raced a 4.6GT tonight There was a car turning left in front of me and after it turned I pulled next to the 4.6(95-98) and we both took off. I was about half a link ahead when he shifted to 2nd, and I just burried him. I figured it was just a missed gear but then I was stopped at a light and the GT came rolling up behind me slow so he never had to come to a stop before the light turned. That worked ok but the 4.10's saved me. I was even with his rear bumper then pulled away hard. Are the gt's that bad? For now Im just passing it off as a couple of missed gears or a rice boy driving a stang. ------------------ 1987 black with t-tops. Cobra intake, 1.7 cobra crane rollers, gt40p's, bbk shorties, off road h-pipe, adj. FPR, rebuilt aod w/shift kit, 65mm TB, 4.10's 12.90's at best probably less. *** AOD's Semper Fi

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04-09-2001, 11:06 PM	#2
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	In those years ... yes they where that bad... mid to high 14s, ... it should be no suprise to you if you run that 12.9. BTW, is that an actual track time? 12.90 or is that estimated? If you run the 99+, you would have a better challenge. ------------------ Lizard King, Bone Stock; 13.69 at 101MPH • Extreme Burnout •2000GT VS LS1 • Quartermile run •2000GT vs LX Stang

04-10-2001, 12:05 AM	#4
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	I think we need Rev's assistance here. I just find that time a bit low for your mods. (I'm no 302 expert...) Are you going to the track soon? ------------------ Lizard King, Bone Stock; 13.69 at 101MPH • Extreme Burnout •2000GT VS LS1 • Quartermile run •2000GT vs LX Stang

04-10-2001, 01:08 AM	#5
onewheeldeal Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: toronto, ontario, canada Posts: 7	i'm a rice boy, i can drive. rice boys can drive, jsut don't have the vehicles to back it up. ronnie

04-10-2001, 01:20 AM	#6
FivepointOH Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Sugar Land, Tx USA Posts: 478	Good race, you should have no problem annihilating a near stock 95-98 gt. I think you'd probably pull a 99+ gt pretty good too. As to the 12.9... that's probably a little too optimistic. Not saying your car doesn't run it but I have an AOD and with your mods I'd think you would be running more around 13.4-13.7, especially without a converter. Not saying you don't run 12.9, it's possible though. Get it to the track and find out. ------------------ 92 AOD GT, K&N, ram air, pulleys, 2 ch. flowmasters, 4:10's, shift kit, 1 5/8 mac longtubes and offroad hpipe 14.249 @ 97.34 mph before the headers and hpipe

04-10-2001, 10:38 AM	#7
stng87 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: southern california Posts: 329	**, I knew this would happen. Im not saying that I DO run the 12.9, its just the best case senereo estimate, hense the "probably less" in the sig. No need to argue times here as I said I "have no proof" (never had it to the track) Just looking for insight on the 98gt. You think its less? Good you're probably right. No arguement. ------------------ 1987 black with t-tops. Cobra intake, 1.7 cobra crane rollers, gt40p's, bbk shorties, off road h-pipe, adj. FPR, rebuilt aod w/shift kit, 65mm TB, 4.10's 12.90's at best probably less. * AOD's Semper Fi

04-10-2001, 11:44 AM	#8
sedanman Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 963	It sounds like you have a pretty sweet 5 liter but I can't help but to agree with fivepointOH Those damn AOD just kill ET's especially out of the hole I to would expect 13.5-13.8. ------------------ 1991 Lx sedan 5.0, 5spd, GT-40 Heads, Cobra intake, 73MM mass air, 65mm TB, FPR, 24lb injectors, E303, Headers,off road H-pipe, Flows, K&n , hurst, 3:55's, pullies,electric fan, mac upper and lower control arms, HD trac-loc, lakewood 50/50's on back, shift light, centerforce dual friction, and rebuilt heavy duty T5, A/C SP delete 255/50/16 BFG DR AL D/S New time 13.2@105.5

04-10-2001, 01:47 PM	#9
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	Dont get mad dude! No ones calling you a liar. Lizard runs fast for what he's got, You could too. I myself will never make an estimate on my et again EVER. I beat a modded 98 cobra, a few new GT's, and hung with an LS1 till 4th, So I figured I could pull a high 13, maybe a 13.50 at absolute best. When I went to the track I spun horribly (even with drag radials) and hit a 14.4 at 98mph detonating down the track. The car really needs some tuning Henceforth I will never make an estimate again. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

04-10-2001, 05:30 PM	#10
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	It's just the "probably less" can go the other way... like you know "I run 14.0 but it could be probably less..." ... does that mean 13.8 or 14.2???? We ain't flaming, but I'm with fastang, you should only post an actual time you had. Anything else would be setting you up for a drop... ------------------ Lizard King, Bone Stock; 13.69 at 101MPH • Extreme Burnout •2000GT VS LS1 • Quartermile run •2000GT vs LX Stang

04-10-2001, 06:09 PM	#11
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	OK,here's my experience. 4.6's can be good or not so good. I've been up against 4.6 Cobras on the street (verts, admittedly) that I beat. I actually ran even (believe it or not) with a blown '99 Cobra at the strip, with a roots style blower, but he was only tuning and running 3 lbs. of boost. I talked to him on the return road. He ran 13.7 and I ran 13.8. Some '99-01 4.6 GT's run like Lizard Kings......well into the mid 13's almost stock. Some LS1's run like LS1Jay's, previously mentioned here that go low 13's. I'm personally gonna go against anyboby street or strip as we really only know what's gonna happen afterwards. I've won against people where I had no right. Ive been beat where I thought I had it in the bag. Do we ever know until after it's over? I guess that's my question? Me, I'm gonna run anyway, where ever. Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi.

04-12-2001, 01:55 PM	#12
46stang Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: moorpark ca Posts: 340	96-98 4.6 gt are dogs. mine ran a best of 14.75 at 95mph with several bolt on's. they are even slower with an auto, and even slower if the driver revs it past 5k rpm. ------------------ 96 stang,ported 99 heads, 99 intake, 99 cams,Steeda power pullies, 373's, 70mm t/b, gutted maf, bassani x-pipe w/cats, ultraflow catback,iat mod, home depot ram air, k@n. fms spings, tri-ax shifter.