my first loss

StoplightWarrior · 02-01-2001, 06:20 PM

Well, it happened today. My new GT saw taillights for the first time.

I was stopped at a light and there was an LT1 camaro behind me. The driver had some girls with him, and I was alone. I pulled away from the light at an average pace, and he was maybe 2-3 cars back. Then I noticed his car picking up speed fast, and he switched lanes to get next to me. I read his move, so I floored it, but he easily walked past me. I was pretty pissed, and too embarassed to talk to him at the next light, so I waved to him, and drove away. I knew lt1s had more horses, but I definitely had the weight advantage, so Im guessing he was not stock. He handled me with ease. Sorry guys. Need money for mods!!!!

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Black 2000 GT
Magnaflow Catback, K&N

SaleenGTS · 02-01-2001, 06:26 PM

If you are 5 speed, and he had that many passengers, then he was modded....pretty modded

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Dustin
1990 Saleen GTSport #14
TFS Street Heat Upper & Lower,TFS TW heads,Phenolic Spacer, E303 Cam,1.6 RR,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MAC 1 5/8" Equals,Dynomax 2 1/2" cat back,Bassani 2 1/2" X-Pipe,MSD 6AL Ignition, Home made Ram Air, Racecraft Suspension

60ft: 2.158
660ft: 8.271 @ 90.43
¼ mi: 12.791@ 111.04 on 26X8 Slicks with Cobra Intake, Stock TB, on a 65* night. New Best.

StoplightWarrior · 02-01-2001, 06:43 PM

No, mine is an auto. Would there be THAT big of a difference though???

Maybe its just the anger talking, but I really feel like, "F--- the minor bolt on's, I want a Vortech!" Gotta start saving.

[This message has been edited by StoplightWarrior (edited 02-01-2001).]

LS1JAY · 02-01-2001, 06:49 PM

What you need is a converter and some gears (and so do I) you would see a big difference

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98'Trans Am LS1 273 gears Whisper lid,K&N,Whisper MAF ends,Flowmaster,Best ET on street tires 13.17 @ 106.49mph

SaleenGTS · 02-01-2001, 07:37 PM

Ok, 99GT auto's run 14.5's@ around 97-99.
All the LT-1's ran about 14.0-14.2 some 13.90's...BUT with 3 passengers, he'd been lucky to run 14.7-14.8, so yes definately modded, and yes, get a converter and gears.

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Dustin
1990 Saleen GTSport #14
TFS Street Heat Upper & Lower,TFS TW heads,Phenolic Spacer, E303 Cam,1.6 RR,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MAC 1 5/8" Equals,Dynomax 2 1/2" cat back,Bassani 2 1/2" X-Pipe,MSD 6AL Ignition, Home made Ram Air, Racecraft Suspension

60ft: 2.158
660ft: 8.271 @ 90.43
¼ mi: 12.791@ 111.04 on 26X8 Slicks with Cobra Intake, Stock TB, on a 65* night. New Best.

StoplightWarrior · 02-01-2001, 09:16 PM

Thanks for the tips, guys. A friend of a friend owns a shop, and I might be able to get a good deal on a blower. Would I see high 12's, low 13's with just the blower at say, 8#'s of boost on my car? Or should I do the tranny & gears first. I have 4.10 gears at home now, but I am hesitant to put them in if Im gonna get a supercharger, cause traction would most definitely be a problem. What do you think?

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Black 2000 GT
Magnaflow Catback, K&N

302 LX Eric · 02-01-2001, 09:31 PM

If you're going to get a blower eventually, then I would stay away from the 4.10's - even with the automatic. Maybe some 3.73's.

If you're staying N/A then the 4.10's would be a good fit.

#8 of boost and you car will feel and run like night and day.

Good luck.
E

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1991 5.0 LX Coupe -37,800 miles

13.17 @ 106.14 mph w/ 2.138 60'

Pro-Charger D-1SC on the way!!!

quick89gt · 02-02-2001, 08:48 PM

There's one other factor you are forgetting here. If you saw him "charging" up on you from behind, he already had a run at it, and you had to increase inertia. So, eventhough he beat you badly, he may not have beat you that badly if you guys had been side by side and nailed it at the same time. When someone already has a "running start," it's not really fair. Josh

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'89 GT, T-5,
Bored .030 Over, GT-40P heads, MAC 1 5/8" headers, MAC Off-Road H-Pipe, 2 1/2" Flowmasters, Edelbrock 65mm T.B., Trick Flow Intakes, Crane 2031 cam, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Keith Black hyp. flat top Pistons, Screamin' Deamon Coil, Champion Plugs, March Underdrive Pulleys, 255lph Fuel Pump, SVO Motorsport Clutch, Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator, Formula GP Suspension, MAC Upper & Lower Control Arms, FMS 3.73 Gears.
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StreetStang37 · 02-02-2001, 11:24 PM

Yeah, cuz you were trying to catch up to the speed he was going and while you were doing that he gains more speed.

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1993 Mustang GT - March Ram Air, K & N filter charger, Pullies, Super Competition Hooker Headers, 2 1/2 in. mendrel bent cat back, High Flow H-Pipe, Pro 5.0 Power Tower

StoplightWarrior · 02-03-2001, 02:12 AM

You have a point, quick89GT, about the inertia thing. He was probably going 65-70 when he pulled out around me, and I was going maybe 55mph when i floored it. I didnt think about that. Thanks, now I don't feel as bad. I still want that S-trim, though!

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Black 2000 GT
Magnaflow Catback, K&N

red82gt · 02-03-2001, 02:14 AM

No doubt, if he had the run on you then it takes a fair bit more power to catch up. Remember a chase is a race so when someone does that to me I let them go on by and wait for them to slow down or get the run on them and let them chase.

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GT-40 heads (ported, polished, + milled), B303 cam, 1.7rr's, JE pistons, Offy intake, Carter AFB 625cfm carb, Flowtech 1 5/8" shortys, Flowtech X-pipe, MAC Flowpath exhaust, MAC pulleys, 373's, subframes, Eibachs+Tokicos, B+M ripper, FMS Clutch, Zoom Quadrant+cable, 17" CSA Ultra rims, 235/45ZR17 Yokohama AVS S4's, MSD 6A ignition+coil, FMS 9mm wires, Carbed, Naturally Aspirated, and Nasty!

Fostang · 02-03-2001, 11:51 PM

Yeah there is no reason to feel ashamed I have a modified 67' stang I know I need big bucks to the time slips that newer 5.0's take for granted but I know I can be in the low 14's maybe high 13's with what I have but there was this one time that I cruising about 35 mph and I see a truck comming up behind me pretty damn fast so therefore I get into the racing mode and I punch it but my effort was useless on trying to catch my friend in his s-10 truck I tried for about a block and just quit later on I met him and he told me that he was going 90 mph It still didnt console me my pride was shot I couldn't belive how an s-10 could spank me so bad but now that I think of it I guess I didnt have a chance even if I was driving a corvette.

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02-01-2001, 06:20 PM	#1
StoplightWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 1,311	my first loss Well, it happened today. My new GT saw taillights for the first time. I was stopped at a light and there was an LT1 camaro behind me. The driver had some girls with him, and I was alone. I pulled away from the light at an average pace, and he was maybe 2-3 cars back. Then I noticed his car picking up speed fast, and he switched lanes to get next to me. I read his move, so I floored it, but he easily walked past me. I was pretty pissed, and too embarassed to talk to him at the next light, so I waved to him, and drove away. I knew lt1s had more horses, but I definitely had the weight advantage, so Im guessing he was not stock. He handled me with ease. Sorry guys. Need money for mods!!!! ------------------ Black 2000 GT Magnaflow Catback, K&N

02-01-2001, 06:26 PM	#2
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	If you are 5 speed, and he had that many passengers, then he was modded....pretty modded ------------------ Dustin 1990 Saleen GTSport #14 TFS Street Heat Upper & Lower,TFS TW heads,Phenolic Spacer, E303 Cam,1.6 RR,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MAC 1 5/8" Equals,Dynomax 2 1/2" cat back,Bassani 2 1/2" X-Pipe,MSD 6AL Ignition, Home made Ram Air, Racecraft Suspension 60ft: 2.158 660ft: 8.271 @ 90.43 ¼ mi: 12.791@ 111.04 on 26X8 Slicks with Cobra Intake, Stock TB, on a 65* night. New Best.

02-01-2001, 06:43 PM	#3
StoplightWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 1,311	No, mine is an auto. Would there be THAT big of a difference though??? Maybe its just the anger talking, but I really feel like, "F--- the minor bolt on's, I want a Vortech!" Gotta start saving. [This message has been edited by StoplightWarrior (edited 02-01-2001).]

02-01-2001, 06:49 PM	#4
LS1JAY Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Central Florida Posts: 102	What you need is a converter and some gears (and so do I) you would see a big difference ------------------ 98'Trans Am LS1 273 gears Whisper lid,K&N,Whisper MAF ends,Flowmaster,Best ET on street tires 13.17 @ 106.49mph

02-01-2001, 07:37 PM	#5
SaleenGTS RICE taste like Chicken Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 687	Ok, 99GT auto's run 14.5's@ around 97-99. All the LT-1's ran about 14.0-14.2 some 13.90's...BUT with 3 passengers, he'd been lucky to run 14.7-14.8, so yes definately modded, and yes, get a converter and gears. ------------------ Dustin 1990 Saleen GTSport #14 TFS Street Heat Upper & Lower,TFS TW heads,Phenolic Spacer, E303 Cam,1.6 RR,BBK 70mm TB,FMS 70mm MAF,MAC 1 5/8" Equals,Dynomax 2 1/2" cat back,Bassani 2 1/2" X-Pipe,MSD 6AL Ignition, Home made Ram Air, Racecraft Suspension 60ft: 2.158 660ft: 8.271 @ 90.43 ¼ mi: 12.791@ 111.04 on 26X8 Slicks with Cobra Intake, Stock TB, on a 65* night. New Best.

02-01-2001, 09:16 PM	#6
StoplightWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 1,311	Thanks for the tips, guys. A friend of a friend owns a shop, and I might be able to get a good deal on a blower. Would I see high 12's, low 13's with just the blower at say, 8#'s of boost on my car? Or should I do the tranny & gears first. I have 4.10 gears at home now, but I am hesitant to put them in if Im gonna get a supercharger, cause traction would most definitely be a problem. What do you think? ------------------ Black 2000 GT Magnaflow Catback, K&N

02-01-2001, 09:31 PM	#7
302 LX Eric or '331 LX Eric' Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 2,142	If you're going to get a blower eventually, then I would stay away from the 4.10's - even with the automatic. Maybe some 3.73's. If you're staying N/A then the 4.10's would be a good fit. #8 of boost and you car will feel and run like night and day. Good luck. E ------------------ 1991 5.0 LX Coupe -37,800 miles 13.17 @ 106.14 mph w/ 2.138 60' Pro-Charger D-1SC on the way!!!

02-02-2001, 08:48 PM	#8
quick89gt Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: O'Fallon, IL Posts: 243	There's one other factor you are forgetting here. If you saw him "charging" up on you from behind, he already had a run at it, and you had to increase inertia. So, eventhough he beat you badly, he may not have beat you that badly if you guys had been side by side and nailed it at the same time. When someone already has a "running start," it's not really fair. Josh ------------------ *********************** '89 GT, T-5, Bored .030 Over, GT-40P heads, MAC 1 5/8" headers, MAC Off-Road H-Pipe, 2 1/2" Flowmasters, Edelbrock 65mm T.B., Trick Flow Intakes, Crane 2031 cam, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Keith Black hyp. flat top Pistons, Screamin' Deamon Coil, Champion Plugs, March Underdrive Pulleys, 255lph Fuel Pump, SVO Motorsport Clutch, Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator, Formula GP Suspension, MAC Upper & Lower Control Arms, FMS 3.73 Gears. ***********************

02-02-2001, 11:24 PM	#9
StreetStang37 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: San Jose, California USA Posts: 275	Yeah, cuz you were trying to catch up to the speed he was going and while you were doing that he gains more speed. ------------------ 1993 Mustang GT - March Ram Air, K & N filter charger, Pullies, Super Competition Hooker Headers, 2 1/2 in. mendrel bent cat back, High Flow H-Pipe, Pro 5.0 Power Tower

02-03-2001, 02:12 AM	#10
StoplightWarrior Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 1,311	You have a point, quick89GT, about the inertia thing. He was probably going 65-70 when he pulled out around me, and I was going maybe 55mph when i floored it. I didnt think about that. Thanks, now I don't feel as bad. I still want that S-trim, though! ------------------ Black 2000 GT Magnaflow Catback, K&N

02-03-2001, 02:14 AM	#11
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	No doubt, if he had the run on you then it takes a fair bit more power to catch up. Remember a chase is a race so when someone does that to me I let them go on by and wait for them to slow down or get the run on them and let them chase. ------------------ GT-40 heads (ported, polished, + milled), B303 cam, 1.7rr's, JE pistons, Offy intake, Carter AFB 625cfm carb, Flowtech 1 5/8" shortys, Flowtech X-pipe, MAC Flowpath exhaust, MAC pulleys, 373's, subframes, Eibachs+Tokicos, B+M ripper, FMS Clutch, Zoom Quadrant+cable, 17" CSA Ultra rims, 235/45ZR17 Yokohama AVS S4's, MSD 6A ignition+coil, FMS 9mm wires, Carbed, Naturally Aspirated, and Nasty!

02-03-2001, 11:51 PM	#12
Fostang Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Stockton, Ca Posts: 599	Yeah there is no reason to feel ashamed I have a modified 67' stang I know I need big bucks to the time slips that newer 5.0's take for granted but I know I can be in the low 14's maybe high 13's with what I have but there was this one time that I cruising about 35 mph and I see a truck comming up behind me pretty damn fast so therefore I get into the racing mode and I punch it but my effort was useless on trying to catch my friend in his s-10 truck I tried for about a block and just quit later on I met him and he told me that he was going 90 mph It still didnt console me my pride was shot I couldn't belive how an s-10 could spank me so bad but now that I think of it I guess I didnt have a chance even if I was driving a corvette.