Need info on a ricers car

Stang_Crazy · 04-10-2003, 09:06 PM

Hey all. I work with a kid who thinks his car is just the greatest thing since sliced bread. But here's the kicker...

His car is a 91 Eagle Talon. Not a TSI but the regular non-turbo version. The car has 140k miles on it and is completely stock. Well, he put the customary HUGE muffler on it along with the GIANT APC sticker across the back window. The car is a manual transmission as well.

I've seen him drive it and it doesn't seem quick. It doesn't even seem 'peppy'. He keeps wanting to race me to see what my car can do. When we race, I want to play with him a little bit by not going WOT but I don't know how much room I have to 'play". Any suggestions as to what kind of power his car has and what 1/4 times it can run?

84LX89GT · 04-10-2003, 10:52 PM

Don't even worry about it....that's probably like a 16 second car. Demolish him severely, slow down and when he tries to pass, demolish him again. That way you're toying with him, but you also beat him into submission at the same time

Ackbar00 · 04-11-2003, 11:44 AM

I think they are 140Hp. But dont quote me on that. Tell him I will race him in my SHO. After all, its just a Tauraus.......

Dark_5.0 · 04-11-2003, 01:36 PM

He has a mid 16 second car. Give him a 3 car jump. You could hit 100mph and stop before he would pass you.

They are turds unless they are the AWD turbo version.

Stang_Crazy · 04-11-2003, 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by Dark_5.0
He has a mid 16 second car.

I told him I'd be surprised if he could run sub 16 seconds and he didn't exactly share the same view. I don't even know if it's worth the gas to race him. I might just take him for a ride in my car. Hopefully he'll get the picture

Ackbar00 · 04-11-2003, 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by Stang_Crazy
I don't even know if it's worth the gas to race him. I might just take him for a ride in my car.

Its always worth the gas

Special K · 04-11-2003, 06:04 PM

No... its not worth you gas.

It's VERY slow.

blue00gt · 04-11-2003, 06:26 PM

If you do take him for a ride you better tell him to brace his neck because I would bet he's never felt real torque if he thinks his car is fast. Let's see... RWD V8, blower, 4.10s, drag radials vs. FWD anemic I4... He must be delusional if he wants to try racing.

inferno · 04-11-2003, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by blue00gt
If you do take him for a ride you better tell him to brace his neck because I would bet he's never felt real torque if he thinks his car is fast. Let's see... RWD V8, blower, 4.10s, drag radials vs. FWD anemic I4... He must be delusional if he wants to try racing.

He is either delusional or lying about what his car is and trying to take advantage of your lack of knowledge about imports. I'm thinking he is delusional, but you can never be too careful...check out the car if you can.

GodStang · 04-11-2003, 09:43 PM

i may me totally wrong on this but are they not the same as the eclipse? If so I raced a Turbo eclipse at the track in my v6 aand I cut his but till half way when his turbo kicked in and he beat me. He ran high 16's with the turbo. If it is not the same car than I just gave yall all a nice pointless story. And we may all be alittle dumber for hearing it.

inferno · 04-12-2003, 04:07 AM

A turbo eclipse running a high 16?? You must be at a really high altitude and it must have been a hot day.

superwillard · 04-12-2003, 06:59 AM

The non turbo car only has 140 hp. I had a turbo talon for awhile the best time I ran was 14.4 but that can was rated a 210 hp so if he is telling the truth you will have no problem.

GodStang · 04-12-2003, 07:34 AM

High Alt. no. This is south carolina. It was raining pretty good.

Skyman · 04-12-2003, 01:49 PM

Raining at the track?

Stang_Crazy · 04-12-2003, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by GodStang
i may me totally wrong on this but are they not the same as the eclipse?

Yes. The Talon looks like the old Eclipse's did (early 90's). I believe the Plymouth Laser also shares the same body lines.

I've seen his car. Inside and out. All he has is that stupid muffler. The engine is so filthy and nasty. It's not like he takes care of it at all. It's basically a beater that he put a muffler on.

He also keeps talking about this lady that has an Eclipse. The new style. He said she put $50k into it

And that it has "nawwws". I told I wanted to meet the lady and check the car out since it seems so great

and he said he'll check with her. It's supposed to run in the 12's so that might be a better matchup for me instead of his little POS Talon.

Dan

red82gt · 04-12-2003, 07:58 PM

Again Godstang, raining at the track? Or have you never been to the track? 1 raindrop usually puts the show on hold everywhere that I've raced or have even seen on TV.

GodStang · 04-13-2003, 10:01 AM

Ya it was at Jackson Dragway here in Jackson SC. Once it started raining they would like let one set of cars go and than stop everyone else till the rain stopped and they would come out "Dry" the track and began to race again. It would ran 20 min later and we would go through the whole thing again.

Not sure how good of a driver he was. He was just the closest to being as slow as I am so I raced him. I was there with a 98 Cobra vert and a 2000 Vette and his Eclippse Turbo

GoPed2009 · 04-15-2003, 12:06 PM

that talon is a mid 16 second car, maybe a lil quicker. I just asked someone that is a dsm freak and that what he said.

blue00gt · 04-15-2003, 01:54 PM

Those newer V6 Eclipses are very slow stock - the ones I've raced seem to run 15s. Without a power adder I don't think that woman's car could run in the 12s. My buddy smoked one in his '89 GT 'vert with 140k miles and nothing but underdrives.

Stang_Crazy · 04-15-2003, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by blue00gt
Without a power adder I don't think that woman's car could run in the 12s.

It's funny because she said she runs it at the track I go to...But she never seems to be there when I am

The fastest Eclipse that I've seen at the track was a gutted GS-T that ran a 12.98. If she was going to the track and running 12's I would have remembered the car.

04-10-2003, 09:06 PM	#1
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	Need info on a ricers car Hey all. I work with a kid who thinks his car is just the greatest thing since sliced bread. But here's the kicker... His car is a 91 Eagle Talon. Not a TSI but the regular non-turbo version. The car has 140k miles on it and is completely stock. Well, he put the customary HUGE muffler on it along with the GIANT APC sticker across the back window. The car is a manual transmission as well. I've seen him drive it and it doesn't seem quick. It doesn't even seem 'peppy'. He keeps wanting to race me to see what my car can do. When we race, I want to play with him a little bit by not going WOT but I don't know how much room I have to 'play". Any suggestions as to what kind of power his car has and what 1/4 times it can run? __________________ ~Dan 2001 SVT Lightning 89' GT : Taking up garage space and waiting for a buyer... Rice Hater's Club - Member #11

04-10-2003, 10:52 PM	#2
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	Don't even worry about it....that's probably like a 16 second car. Demolish him severely, slow down and when he tries to pass, demolish him again. That way you're toying with him, but you also beat him into submission at the same time __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

04-11-2003, 11:44 AM	#3
Ackbar00 Rebel Fleet Commander Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Huber Heights, OH Posts: 1,003	I think they are 140Hp. But dont quote me on that. Tell him I will race him in my SHO. After all, its just a Tauraus....... __________________ 1993 Mustang GT, PTK w/ T-64 - My Cardomain Webpage 11.25@123.5 on only 8 psi. 10.84@121 on only 1 headgasket "The Truth is, Your the Weak, and I am the Tyranny of Evil Men!"

04-11-2003, 01:36 PM	#4
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	He has a mid 16 second car. Give him a 3 car jump. You could hit 100mph and stop before he would pass you. They are turds unless they are the AWD turbo version. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

04-11-2003, 06:04 PM	#7
Special K Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Montreal, Quebec (Canada) Posts: 246	No... its not worth you gas. It's VERY slow. __________________ 2000 Honda Civic SiR @ 6psi 13.738 @ 102.943 mph 1989 Ford Mustang LX Coupe 5.0L (RIP)

04-11-2003, 06:26 PM	#8
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	If you do take him for a ride you better tell him to brace his neck because I would bet he's never felt real torque if he thinks his car is fast. Let's see... RWD V8, blower, 4.10s, drag radials vs. FWD anemic I4... He must be delusional if he wants to try racing. __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

04-11-2003, 09:43 PM	#10
GodStang College Stanger Join Date: May 1999 Location: Aiken,south carolina, usa Posts: 1,097	i may me totally wrong on this but are they not the same as the eclipse? If so I raced a Turbo eclipse at the track in my v6 aand I cut his but till half way when his turbo kicked in and he beat me. He ran high 16's with the turbo. If it is not the same car than I just gave yall all a nice pointless story. And we may all be alittle dumber for hearing it. __________________ 2003 Sonic Blue Cobra

04-12-2003, 04:07 AM	#11
inferno The Instigator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: So Cal and Houston Posts: 764	A turbo eclipse running a high 16?? You must be at a really high altitude and it must have been a hot day. __________________ The most powerful weapon known to man is the human brain....unfortunately, many people are walking around unarmed.

04-12-2003, 06:59 AM	#12
superwillard Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: roseville mi. Posts: 26	The non turbo car only has 140 hp. I had a turbo talon for awhile the best time I ran was 14.4 but that can was rated a 210 hp so if he is telling the truth you will have no problem. __________________ 86 hatch 5 speed 3.73 gears gt40p heads,gt 40 intake,headers 70 mm tb 195 lph pump off road h-pipe 2.5 exhaust this year rear air bag electric fan 1.7 rockers no sway bar Best et 14.09 last year 60 ft 1.98

04-12-2003, 07:34 AM	#13
GodStang College Stanger Join Date: May 1999 Location: Aiken,south carolina, usa Posts: 1,097	High Alt. no. This is south carolina. It was raining pretty good. __________________ 2003 Sonic Blue Cobra

04-12-2003, 01:49 PM	#14
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Raining at the track? __________________ 2001 BMW M3 6spd 12.79@108 RIP ---- 1993 Notch w/ 98 4V 4.6 Fasttt... -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- 12.32@109 -1999 Black Cobra Coupe- JBA Shorties, Bassani Cat-X, Magnaflow 3", Pulleys, 85mm Pro-M, Ported Intake, Soild Rear w/ 4.30s, Tubular Front End, X2C arms, 13lb batt, few others.

04-12-2003, 07:58 PM	#16
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	Again Godstang, raining at the track? Or have you never been to the track? 1 raindrop usually puts the show on hold everywhere that I've raced or have even seen on TV. __________________ 393W: AFR 205's, hydraulic roller, TKO600.

04-13-2003, 10:01 AM	#17
GodStang College Stanger Join Date: May 1999 Location: Aiken,south carolina, usa Posts: 1,097	Ya it was at Jackson Dragway here in Jackson SC. Once it started raining they would like let one set of cars go and than stop everyone else till the rain stopped and they would come out "Dry" the track and began to race again. It would ran 20 min later and we would go through the whole thing again. Not sure how good of a driver he was. He was just the closest to being as slow as I am so I raced him. I was there with a 98 Cobra vert and a 2000 Vette and his Eclippse Turbo __________________ 2003 Sonic Blue Cobra

04-15-2003, 12:06 PM	#18
GoPed2009 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bradenton, Fl Posts: 9	that talon is a mid 16 second car, maybe a lil quicker. I just asked someone that is a dsm freak and that what he said. __________________ Ben Renner

04-15-2003, 01:54 PM	#19
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	Those newer V6 Eclipses are very slow stock - the ones I've raced seem to run 15s. Without a power adder I don't think that woman's car could run in the 12s. My buddy smoked one in his '89 GT 'vert with 140k miles and nothing but underdrives. __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

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