SS smackdown!

04-05-2001, 01:32 PM

Not 2 recent...going back to last summer (I just joined the message board)...a guy I know had recently bought a 2K Camaro SS. He talked a whole lot of $h** (like most us do)He kept bragging about pony skins he'd taken, & kept challenging me to race. To be honest, I was a bit nervous, but then figured that his car was 10 yrs younger than my car, and it cost about $15k more than mine (before mods). Well, the first run he accused me of jumping too early (I kind of did, but...), I missed third anyway, and it ended pretty much a tie. We both wanted 2 go again. So, the next run, we both take off....I got off the line quicker (about 1/4 car), at the end of 2nd (now about 1/2 car lead) I thought it was over for me, thinking that 3rd is where he'd catch/pass me. To my surprise, I took him for a hair more than a car length. I was expecting every excuse in the book, but not 1 from him (what a surprise from a Camaro guy). I guess you can say it was a good day! And guess what, no more talk.

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'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads;
BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit;
Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less;
rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph

Rev · 04-05-2001, 01:50 PM

Hey, mid 12's at 108, sounds like a really quick LX. I wouldn't worry too much about stock late model muscle cars. Even a Viper, you're probably gonna run even or at least close..

Rev

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'66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph
1/4 mi.

04-05-2001, 04:22 PM

This SS guy is planning on getting a N20 150 hp fogger system. I guess I'll have to retaliate with a supercharger in the near future. I'd like to first get a nice intake, bigger injectors/fuel pump, RAM or Centerforce clutch kit and better control arms.

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'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads;
BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit;
Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less;
rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph

Lizard King · 04-05-2001, 04:49 PM

A Stock SS will run 13.1-13.3, so you had the kill as long as you drove like a king!

Good job!

Fox Body · 04-05-2001, 06:30 PM

You were worried about losing to a stock SS with the times you're running??

They're fast, but not THAT fast.

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'79 Mustang Coup
4" Cowl
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8)
Stock 5.8L
C4 w/ shift kit
1 5/8" MAC shorty headers
Holley 750 CFM
Edelbrock Performer RPM intake
2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters
8.8" Rear end w/ 3.55 gears (Now that's more like it!!)

Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon)

"Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

fastang · 04-05-2001, 07:22 PM

You just gotta love the LX 5.0's Sweet kill, keep it up because most of us are still getting killed out there!

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

04-05-2001, 07:31 PM

Well, I know I shouldn't have been nervous, but the $h!^ this guy talks, it would've been hard times for me had I lost (missed a shift, too much spin in the box etc. I can't stand my Hurst shifter....3rd's a b!^&h. I'm thinking Pro 5.0.

The SS guy is planning on a n2o 150 hp fogger any day now. I guess I'll have to push up the plans on a supercharger!

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'90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads;
BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit;
Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less;
rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph

Fox Body · 04-05-2001, 08:25 PM

You get the right blower and you'll smash that 150 hp bottled SS

fastang,

Yes, we are suffering SOME casualties.
Hopefully in a few months, I'll be a worthy soldier for the Mustang cause.

-------------------------------
'79 Mustang Coup
4" Cowl
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8)
Stock 5.8L
C4 w/ shift kit
1 5/8" MAC shorty headers
Holley 750 CFM
Edelbrock Performer RPM intake
2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters
8.8" Rear end w/ 3.55 gears (Now that's more like it!!)

Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon)

"Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

Steve2000SS · 04-06-2001, 11:13 AM

I drive an SS and even i think your mid 12 times are great... People love to "bench race" thier cars but it all comes down to who actually wins the race

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2000 M6 SS Camaro.. mostly stock go mods.. lots of show stuff..
320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE

Ty'97Cobra · 04-06-2001, 02:32 PM

Ahhh. I knew those camaro's are not invincible!!!!!

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1997 Black Cobra Convertible. #2788 of 3088
Mostly Stock
1988 5.0 LX Convertible -Work Car...Few Mods.

Steve2000SS · 04-06-2001, 04:18 PM

yep TY.. it only took a boatload of mods and he beat the stock SS buy a whole car length

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2000 M6 SS Camaro.. mostly stock go mods.. lots of show stuff..
320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE

Ty'97Cobra · 04-06-2001, 06:38 PM

Guess it goes to show that not all 5.0's are slow....

Just like not all V-6 Camaro's are slow...

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1997 Black Cobra Convertible. #2788 of 3088
Mostly Stock
1988 5.0 LX Convertible -Work Car...Few Mods.

04-06-2001, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve2000SS:
yep TY.. it only took a boatload of mods and he beat the stock SS buy a whole car length

Yeah but I'm willing to bet the 90lx is paid for...

Oh and nice to have another cool camaro guy aboard.

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Rick
My 89lx(updated 2/21/2001)
My 97 Cobra

Steve2000SS · 04-07-2001, 05:51 PM

Thanxs for the welcome Rbatson

.. oh.. and I bet ya my SS is paid off also

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2000 M6 SS Camaro.. mostly stock go mods.. lots of show stuff..
320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE

Power · 04-08-2001, 05:12 AM

"yawn", .....ahem, shucks....i just can't remember what came in the SS camaro....hmmm...was it bigger or smaller than a 302.....

Oh wait, it must have been bigger 'cause chevy can't beat a ford in an inch for inch displacement challange.

Also welcome aboard....i'm fairly new here too.

Steve2000SS · 04-09-2001, 11:35 AM

Thats not a good argument since there are a few 4 cylinder (and six) that make more power per a inch (liter) than the 4.6

~~ how many liters is a Honda Prelude making 200fwhp?? lets not start bashing here

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2000 M6 SS Camaro.. mostly stock go mods.. lots of show stuff..
320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE

SkarodoM · 04-09-2001, 12:59 PM

Inch for inch?

Its all tuning maine.. dz302... ever hear a that motor?

Phil
Jerico Performance

Power · 04-09-2001, 01:17 PM

no bashing.....always enjoy friendly picking at the bowtie boys......your very right about some of the 4's making more power per inch than the 8's. Scary huh?...hope they dont make a v8 import like that.

dinomite · 04-09-2001, 04:14 PM

Yes, the hp/inch argument is a ricer thing, but it applies here. The S200 makes all that power up in the stratosphere, the 4.6 (like the 5.7 chevy) makes the power down low *does the down low shimmy*. Chevy can't beat Ford in engineering. Take a Fox Body Mustang vs. a Camaro of the same year (late 80s) and they both run about he same, but the Camaro has 48 more inches! Blech.

My friend recently went to a car show and the Chevy dealer there was braggin about how they got 350hp out of the 350cu/in engine in their crate motor. The Ford 351 crate makes 385hp............and I don't think they are getting that 35hp from one cu/in.

SkarodoM · 04-09-2001, 08:02 PM

Ricer logic RRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNN!!!!!!

04-05-2001, 01:32 PM	#1
1mintlx Guest Posts: n/a	SS smackdown! Not 2 recent...going back to last summer (I just joined the message board)...a guy I know had recently bought a 2K Camaro SS. He talked a whole lot of $h** (like most us do)He kept bragging about pony skins he'd taken, & kept challenging me to race. To be honest, I was a bit nervous, but then figured that his car was 10 yrs younger than my car, and it cost about $15k more than mine (before mods). Well, the first run he accused me of jumping too early (I kind of did, but...), I missed third anyway, and it ended pretty much a tie. We both wanted 2 go again. So, the next run, we both take off....I got off the line quicker (about 1/4 car), at the end of 2nd (now about 1/2 car lead) I thought it was over for me, thinking that 3rd is where he'd catch/pass me. To my surprise, I took him for a hair more than a car length. I was expecting every excuse in the book, but not 1 from him (what a surprise from a Camaro guy). I guess you can say it was a good day! And guess what, no more talk. ------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph

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04-05-2001, 01:50 PM	#2
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Hey, mid 12's at 108, sounds like a really quick LX. I wouldn't worry too much about stock late model muscle cars. Even a Viper, you're probably gonna run even or at least close.. Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi.

04-05-2001, 04:22 PM	#3
1mintlx Guest Posts: n/a	This SS guy is planning on getting a N20 150 hp fogger system. I guess I'll have to retaliate with a supercharger in the near future. I'd like to first get a nice intake, bigger injectors/fuel pump, RAM or Centerforce clutch kit and better control arms. ------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph

04-05-2001, 04:49 PM	#4
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	A Stock SS will run 13.1-13.3, so you had the kill as long as you drove like a king! Good job!

04-05-2001, 06:30 PM	#5
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	You were worried about losing to a stock SS with the times you're running?? They're fast, but not THAT fast. ------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup 4" Cowl Weld wheels (15x6;15x8) Stock 5.8L C4 w/ shift kit 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers Holley 750 CFM Edelbrock Performer RPM intake 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters 8.8" Rear end w/ 3.55 gears (Now that's more like it!!) Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II 14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon) "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

04-05-2001, 07:22 PM	#6
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	You just gotta love the LX 5.0's Sweet kill, keep it up because most of us are still getting killed out there! ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

04-05-2001, 07:31 PM	#7
1mintlx Guest Posts: n/a	Well, I know I shouldn't have been nervous, but the $h!^ this guy talks, it would've been hard times for me had I lost (missed a shift, too much spin in the box etc. I can't stand my Hurst shifter....3rd's a b!^&h. I'm thinking Pro 5.0. The SS guy is planning on a n2o 150 hp fogger any day now. I guess I'll have to push up the plans on a supercharger! ------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph

04-05-2001, 08:25 PM	#8
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	You get the right blower and you'll smash that 150 hp bottled SS fastang, Yes, we are suffering SOME casualties. Hopefully in a few months, I'll be a worthy soldier for the Mustang cause. ------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup 4" Cowl Weld wheels (15x6;15x8) Stock 5.8L C4 w/ shift kit 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers Holley 750 CFM Edelbrock Performer RPM intake 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters 8.8" Rear end w/ 3.55 gears (Now that's more like it!!) Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II 14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon) "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body

04-06-2001, 11:13 AM	#9
Steve2000SS Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 31	I drive an SS and even i think your mid 12 times are great... People love to "bench race" thier cars but it all comes down to who actually wins the race ------------------ 2000 M6 SS Camaro.. mostly stock go mods.. lots of show stuff.. 320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE

04-06-2001, 02:32 PM	#10
Ty'97Cobra Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: NC Posts: 308	Ahhh. I knew those camaro's are not invincible!!!!! ------------------ 1997 Black Cobra Convertible. #2788 of 3088 Mostly Stock 1988 5.0 LX Convertible -Work Car...Few Mods.

04-06-2001, 04:18 PM	#11
Steve2000SS Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 31	yep TY.. it only took a boatload of mods and he beat the stock SS buy a whole car length ------------------ 2000 M6 SS Camaro.. mostly stock go mods.. lots of show stuff.. 320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE

04-06-2001, 06:38 PM	#12
Ty'97Cobra Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: NC Posts: 308	Guess it goes to show that not all 5.0's are slow.... Just like not all V-6 Camaro's are slow... ------------------ 1997 Black Cobra Convertible. #2788 of 3088 Mostly Stock 1988 5.0 LX Convertible -Work Car...Few Mods.

04-07-2001, 05:51 PM	#14
Steve2000SS Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 31	Thanxs for the welcome Rbatson .. oh.. and I bet ya my SS is paid off also ------------------ 2000 M6 SS Camaro.. mostly stock go mods.. lots of show stuff.. 320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE

04-08-2001, 05:12 AM	#15
Power Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oregon Posts: 420	"yawn", .....ahem, shucks....i just can't remember what came in the SS camaro....hmmm...was it bigger or smaller than a 302..... Oh wait, it must have been bigger 'cause chevy can't beat a ford in an inch for inch displacement challange. Also welcome aboard....i'm fairly new here too.

04-09-2001, 11:35 AM	#16
Steve2000SS Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 31	Thats not a good argument since there are a few 4 cylinder (and six) that make more power per a inch (liter) than the 4.6 ~~ how many liters is a Honda Prelude making 200fwhp?? lets not start bashing here ------------------ 2000 M6 SS Camaro.. mostly stock go mods.. lots of show stuff.. 320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE

04-09-2001, 12:59 PM	#17
SkarodoM Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 199	Inch for inch? Its all tuning maine.. dz302... ever hear a that motor? Phil Jerico Performance

04-09-2001, 01:17 PM	#18
Power Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Oregon Posts: 420	no bashing.....always enjoy friendly picking at the bowtie boys......your very right about some of the 4's making more power per inch than the 8's. Scary huh?...hope they dont make a v8 import like that.

04-09-2001, 04:14 PM	#19
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	Yes, the hp/inch argument is a ricer thing, but it applies here. The S200 makes all that power up in the stratosphere, the 4.6 (like the 5.7 chevy) makes the power down low does the down low shimmy. Chevy can't beat Ford in engineering. Take a Fox Body Mustang vs. a Camaro of the same year (late 80s) and they both run about he same, but the Camaro has 48 more inches! Blech. My friend recently went to a car show and the Chevy dealer there was braggin about how they got 350hp out of the 350cu/in engine in their crate motor. The Ford 351 crate makes 385hp............and I don't think they are getting that 35hp from one cu/in.

04-09-2001, 08:02 PM	#20
SkarodoM Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 199	Ricer logic RRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNN!!!!!!