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04-05-2001, 01:32 PM | #1 |
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SS smackdown!
Not 2 recent...going back to last summer (I just joined the message board)...a guy I know had recently bought a 2K Camaro SS. He talked a whole lot of $h** (like most us do)He kept bragging about pony skins he'd taken, & kept challenging me to race. To be honest, I was a bit nervous, but then figured that his car was 10 yrs younger than my car, and it cost about $15k more than mine (before mods). Well, the first run he accused me of jumping too early (I kind of did, but...), I missed third anyway, and it ended pretty much a tie. We both wanted 2 go again. So, the next run, we both take off....I got off the line quicker (about 1/4 car), at the end of 2nd (now about 1/2 car lead) I thought it was over for me, thinking that 3rd is where he'd catch/pass me. To my surprise, I took him for a hair more than a car length. I was expecting every excuse in the book, but not 1 from him (what a surprise from a Camaro guy). I guess you can say it was a good day! And guess what, no more talk.
------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph |
04-05-2001, 01:50 PM | #2 |
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Hey, mid 12's at 108, sounds like a really quick LX. I wouldn't worry too much about stock late model muscle cars. Even a Viper, you're probably gonna run even or at least close..
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04-05-2001, 04:22 PM | #3 |
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This SS guy is planning on getting a N20 150 hp fogger system. I guess I'll have to retaliate with a supercharger in the near future. I'd like to first get a nice intake, bigger injectors/fuel pump, RAM or Centerforce clutch kit and better control arms.
------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph |
04-05-2001, 04:49 PM | #4 |
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A Stock SS will run 13.1-13.3, so you had the kill as long as you drove like a king!
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04-05-2001, 06:30 PM | #5 |
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You were worried about losing to a stock SS with the times you're running??
They're fast, but not THAT fast. ------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup 4" Cowl Weld wheels (15x6;15x8) Stock 5.8L C4 w/ shift kit 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers Holley 750 CFM Edelbrock Performer RPM intake 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters 8.8" Rear end w/ 3.55 gears (Now that's more like it!!) Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II 14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon) "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body |
04-05-2001, 07:22 PM | #6 |
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You just gotta love the LX 5.0's Sweet kill, keep it up because most of us are still getting killed out there!
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04-05-2001, 07:31 PM | #7 |
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Well, I know I shouldn't have been nervous, but the $h!^ this guy talks, it would've been hard times for me had I lost (missed a shift, too much spin in the box etc. I can't stand my Hurst shifter....3rd's a b!^&h. I'm thinking Pro 5.0.
The SS guy is planning on a n2o 150 hp fogger any day now. I guess I'll have to push up the plans on a supercharger! ------------------ '90 LX 5.0; 12K original miles (no sh*&); 3.55 gears; pulleys; Edelbrock Performer Heads; BBK shorties; MSD 6AL ignition system; Motorsport E303 cam; 75 MAF; 70 TB; Eibach spring kit; Southside sub-connectors; K&N cone filter charger; Hurst shifter; fiberglass cowl hood; A/C-less; rear seat-less; cat-less; Flomasters; Corbeau racing seats (fronts); 12.513 @ 108 mph |
04-05-2001, 08:25 PM | #8 |
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You get the right blower and you'll smash that 150 hp bottled SS
fastang, Yes, we are suffering SOME casualties. Hopefully in a few months, I'll be a worthy soldier for the Mustang cause. ------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup 4" Cowl Weld wheels (15x6;15x8) Stock 5.8L C4 w/ shift kit 1 5/8" MAC shorty headers Holley 750 CFM Edelbrock Performer RPM intake 2.5" Off road H-pipe, 2-chamber Flowmasters 8.8" Rear end w/ 3.55 gears (Now that's more like it!!) Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II 14 x 4” K&N air filter (getting the Xtreme setup soon) "Red, thou art my companion. Hasten now your quickened metamorphosis to Green that I may conquer all who dare abide there beside me. May they be left thither behind burnt black." ---Fox Body |
04-06-2001, 11:13 AM | #9 |
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I drive an SS and even i think your mid 12 times are great... People love to "bench race" thier cars but it all comes down to who actually wins the race
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04-06-2001, 02:32 PM | #10 |
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Ahhh. I knew those camaro's are not invincible!!!!!
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04-06-2001, 04:18 PM | #11 |
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yep TY.. it only took a boatload of mods and he beat the stock SS buy a whole car length
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04-06-2001, 06:38 PM | #12 |
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Guess it goes to show that not all 5.0's are slow....
Just like not all V-6 Camaro's are slow... ------------------ 1997 Black Cobra Convertible. #2788 of 3088 Mostly Stock 1988 5.0 LX Convertible -Work Car...Few Mods. |
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Oh and nice to have another cool camaro guy aboard. ------------------ Rick My 89lx(updated 2/21/2001) My 97 Cobra |
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04-07-2001, 05:51 PM | #14 |
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Thanxs for the welcome Rbatson .. oh.. and I bet ya my SS is paid off also
------------------ 2000 M6 SS Camaro.. mostly stock go mods.. lots of show stuff.. 320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE |
04-08-2001, 05:12 AM | #15 |
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"yawn", .....ahem, shucks....i just can't remember what came in the SS camaro....hmmm...was it bigger or smaller than a 302.....
Oh wait, it must have been bigger 'cause chevy can't beat a ford in an inch for inch displacement challange. Also welcome aboard....i'm fairly new here too. |
04-09-2001, 11:35 AM | #16 |
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Thats not a good argument since there are a few 4 cylinder (and six) that make more power per a inch (liter) than the 4.6 ~~ how many liters is a Honda Prelude making 200fwhp?? lets not start bashing here
------------------ 2000 M6 SS Camaro.. mostly stock go mods.. lots of show stuff.. 320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE |
04-09-2001, 12:59 PM | #17 |
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Inch for inch?
Its all tuning maine.. dz302... ever hear a that motor? Phil Jerico Performance |
04-09-2001, 01:17 PM | #18 |
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no bashing.....always enjoy friendly picking at the bowtie boys......your very right about some of the 4's making more power per inch than the 8's. Scary huh?...hope they dont make a v8 import like that.
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04-09-2001, 04:14 PM | #19 |
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Yes, the hp/inch argument is a ricer thing, but it applies here. The S200 makes all that power up in the stratosphere, the 4.6 (like the 5.7 chevy) makes the power down low *does the down low shimmy*. Chevy can't beat Ford in engineering. Take a Fox Body Mustang vs. a Camaro of the same year (late 80s) and they both run about he same, but the Camaro has 48 more inches! Blech.
My friend recently went to a car show and the Chevy dealer there was braggin about how they got 350hp out of the 350cu/in engine in their crate motor. The Ford 351 crate makes 385hp............and I don't think they are getting that 35hp from one cu/in. |
04-09-2001, 08:02 PM | #20 |
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Ricer logic RRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNN!!!!!!
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