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blue00gt 02-27-2001 12:55 PM

In the March 2001 issue of MM&FF on p. 148 there is a True Street Fox notchback that started as a a 4-banger beater that was put together for a total of $4000. 11.39@118

88GT5.013.02 02-28-2001 06:54 PM

inferno:

So you are saying that the turbo integra is going to run 11's on street tires...I doubt it.

Lizard King 03-01-2001 12:41 AM

My friend has a moded civic...

626 Turbo, Saab waste gate valve, T-Bird intercooler and is running 13.7 with drag radial. He needs tunning, but I doubt he'll go well below 13.5...


inferno 03-01-2001 03:19 AM

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Originally posted by Lizard King:
My friend has a moded civic...

626 Turbo, Saab waste gate valve, T-Bird intercooler and is running 13.7 with drag radial. He needs tunning, but I doubt he'll go well below 13.5...


Interesting set-up....I am sure he can get a more efficient intercooler and cut his times....along with the tuning. I am sure that would definately put him in the 12's.

Unit 5302 03-01-2001 01:12 PM

Actually the T-bird is a watercooled intercooler inferno, you don't get a whole lot better.

Sides, I don't know how you figure a turbo on a 16sec car will drop over 3 full seconds off it's times.

Lizard King 03-01-2001 03:32 PM

Inferno: Are you just looking to get flames??? You haven't seen my friend's civic, you don't know if it's a hatch or coupe, vtech, year... do you have the all mighty power to give him the addionnal boost to run 12s??????????

It's pretty obvious you're a fan of imports. I must say I respect the import croud as well ... but there is no way in hell any import 4 banger starts on equal foot with any 1999+ GT stang.

fastang 03-01-2001 08:28 PM

I hate to say it Lizrd but the Subaru WRX impreza turbo is a 4 banger that runs 13.50's stock. So does the Mitsu Lancer but its only overseas, the WRX finaly got here after years of waiting. The Honda S2000 will also beat MOST stock 99-00 GT's. Not yours of course but the average.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

Lizard King 03-01-2001 10:04 PM

Faststang, I stand correct... at premium price of $10K+.

The Subaru is a damn sweet car, ít probably be the ONLY 4 banger I would consider trading for my stang. Drive it in rain, snow, dry, on the drag strip, on road course... your gonna have smile right up to your ears all the time.

As for the S2000, ... you open up the hood, and then you ask yourself, what else can I do to go faster. Then you stand there looking at the car and start swearing... everything is so God d@mn tight in there you could barely fit your ***'n flash light! Oh well, you tell yourself, I guess I'll drive the car like it is and avoid the mustang croud ... hehehe, what a sucker.

HKstang 03-01-2001 11:29 PM

I've just hopped onto this thread here and I'm loving it. I'm new to the site so this is one of my first posts. I'm an ex-ricer (well, I'm still Chinese) that's been turned on to Mustangs by my friends. I recently bought a 5 litre and I'm loving it. Anyway, aren't you guys forgeting about other imports like turbo Talons/Eclipses Supras and RX7s. I'm not going to list the 300Z and Stealth cos you can't find cheap ones of those. I used to have an 87 Supra that went 102mph in the quarter with only full exhaust and some shims in the wastegate. Wouldn't hook though, I only ran a 14.3. My buddy had a Supra, also an 87 with STOCK exhaust, ported and clipped turbo which hit 176mph on the 407 (Canadian highway). The only reason he couldn't go any faster was that he was hitting his rev limiter in fifth!!!

OK that's my little rant.

feel free to flame me.

Geoff

fastang 03-02-2001 01:55 AM

HKSstang get it HKS? like the turbo since you know a lot about them...nevermind, anyway welcome to Mustangworks and I realy dont think anyone is going to flame you for being chinese or naming quick imports. You will find that most of the people here have a lot of respect for the quick imports...we just hate the poser sticker crowd that talks out their *** while knowing absolutely NOTHING about their or anyone elses car. We were trying to name 4 cyl imports that could keep up with a new stang in stock trim. The turbo eclipse and talon will not keep up when they are stock and the Supra/300z/3000GT are not 4 bangers. Price is not an option otherwise I wouldnt have listed the S2000. So far we have only came up with 2 U.S. released imports that can keep up with a stock stang.
Lizrd, you are totaly right about trying to mod an S2000 and the fact that it just waay too expensive. If they made them cheaper I would have a LOT more respect for Honda.

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

97snakedriver 03-02-2001 03:33 AM

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Originally posted by fastang:
I hate to say it Lizrd but the Subaru WRX impreza turbo is a 4 banger that runs 13.50's stock.
Not the one coming here! It only puts out 227 hp (15s)... The JDM one is pretty quick though.

The JDM Lancer is pretty quick though, as well as some other JDM cars. Any one here that has done any racing knows about the Supras/RX7s/VR4s/AWD Eclipse GS-Ts...

Its all about trade-offs....

STEEDAJEFF 03-02-2001 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by Jaydee:
Just curious - Exactly how long does a stock transaxel and half shafts last on these front drive turbo things, when launching with some rpm's on sticky tires??
I can hear the sound of snapping metal all the back here in CT.



Actually honda axels are not that strong, but you know about that stock axled SE-R running 12's for a couple of years now on stock axles. not bad for a 4 banger


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HKstang 03-02-2001 09:36 PM

I thought a turbo Eclipse/Talon would beat a 5.0. Oh well...just out of curiosity, does anyone know what an Eclipse/Talon runs out of the box?

Geoff
Stock suspension, stock heads, cam, intake exhaust, 2.73s, 205/65/15 Sears snow tires, paper air filter

fastang 03-03-2001 03:51 AM

Super Street import magazine got a 15.6 out of the stock GSX and a 15.8 out of a stock GSR.

91LX2Bfast 03-03-2001 10:40 AM

I am not sure why some of you guys think the S2000 has no room under the hood. I have a pic of one w/ a big *** blower (at least as big as a Novi 2000) and it fits so nice it looks like it was meant to be there. I have a pic of it, It was put together by Comptech. Very sweet ride.


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