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#1 Pony 10-29-2001 11:20 PM

Stock Cobra ET times.
 

what does a stock 95 Cobra run to a '99, 01'(?)-02' Cobra?

*i don't remember which recent year they did not make them*

fiveOsnake 10-30-2001 02:43 AM

94-95 cobras run 14.30-14.40s bone stock.

bstang46 10-30-2001 10:36 AM

They didnt produce a Cobra in 00 due to the 99 model lack of claimed horsepower.

ThreePonyStable 10-30-2001 05:15 PM

Stock should be low 14s. This depends on driver, altitude, track, traction, and sometimes people get "factory freaks" that seem to perform above the normal and make everyone else notice.

Rev 10-30-2001 06:03 PM

I'm probably gonna get hammered for saying this. I've run a few Cobra's on the street and on the track too ('95-'99). I've either run even or beaten them. My car runs high 13's or low 14's at the track at about 100 mph.

Granted, some of these 5.0's and 4.6's have been convrtibles (extra weight). 2001's I would love to try and would surely get nailed (I hope). When I get my heads, I'd hope to beat them too.

Rev

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'66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph
1/4 mi.

1BAD89 10-30-2001 08:00 PM

I don't think a bone stock 95 cobra could pull off a 14.30-14.40, let alone a low 14. I would lean towards higher 14's.

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-1989 GT, not stock.

-2000 Camaro SS-A4,
13.4's bone stock.

-1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383(500+hp on motor), tubbed, trick flow heads, trick flow pistons, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, and so much more!

rbatson 10-30-2001 08:29 PM

I got a 14 flat in my 97 Cobra vert(the one I had). I've read and heard(haven't seen) that the latest cobra can run 13.5s.

Rev 10-30-2001 10:01 PM

You're referring to '01 Cobras aren't you for the 13.5, rbatson?

Rev

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'66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph
1/4 mi.

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fastang 10-31-2001 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1BAD89:
I don't think a bone stock 95 cobra could pull off a 14.30-14.40, let alone a low 14. I would lean towards higher 14's.


Its odd that my car with 215hp stock beat my friends 95 Cobra with 240hp stock. We both had similar mods at the time like H pipe and air filter. He didnt catch me till the top of 4th waay after the qtr mile was over. With the stock gears I was passing the traps in third.


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95GT, TFS T.W. heads, Holley Intake, B303 cam, FRPP 30lb injectors, Scorpion 1.6 rollers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, March Pulleys, MSD coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550 trans, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors. 190lph pump, BBK adj FPR.

rbatson 10-31-2001 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rev:
You're referring to '01 Cobras aren't you for the 13.5, rbatson?

Rev



Must be the 2001 model. They haven't released the 2002 model yet.. have they?? I wasn't sure, that why I left it open(the latest). 13.5 is nothing to sneeze at..

#1 Pony 10-31-2001 01:34 PM

I did some reesearch and they said '01 Cobra can only run 13.8 and that's when they have the right tires on it. That's not much difference in a GT that can run 14 to high 14's. What's up with that??

SaleenGTS 10-31-2001 02:22 PM

1BAD....Hi 14's??? Lookie here. GT-40 heads and a GT-40 Intake alone is a 40-45 hp increase. I think you all are underestimating the 94-95 GT-40 cars. Now they aren't as fast as the 93 Cobra, due to some weight issues, but I think they are far worthy of a 14.1-14.3@98-100. Look at it this way. You see cars with the same heads trapping 105 UNPORTED, so I see no reason why they shouldn't run a low 14.

I ran a 95 Convertable whrn I was running 13.90's and I had him by about a full car up to about 80-85.

As for the 2001's
Car and Driver tested one at a 4.8 0-60 and a 13.5@105 on street tires.

ACHOO!!!! Excuse me....I had to sneeze there.

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Dustin
89 Saleen GT Sport,347, TFS Street Heat Intake(port matched),TFS TW Heads(Stage 2),TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's

12.3@119 street tires OLD MOTOR

11.496@121.08slicks OLD MOTOR

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venumus93 10-31-2001 03:26 PM

..hey guys, my 93 Cobra, slightly modded with 102K miles on it runs a best 14.46 spinning the tires. yes, i need to learn how to drive better, and maybe i have some lost power due to the mileage, but....driver makes the big difference here. just my .02. later!


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93Cobra#3974
off-road h-pipe, 2chamber flowmasters, hurst shifter, moroso cold-air induction, march street pullies, best 1/4 14.461 at 98.15mph, best 60' 2.233

blue oval 50h 11-01-2001 12:19 AM

My brother had a 93 cobra. It was 100% stock except for a k&n and a short belt. His best was a 13.79 @ 10x. I dont remember the MPH.

Unit 5302 11-01-2001 01:00 AM

It's all the driver.

I'll be a ricer, or an LS1 guy for a minute.

The 1993 Cobra will run a 13.70@102 stock.
The 1994-1995 Cobra will run a 13.90@101 stock.
The 1996-1998 Cobra will run a 13.80@102 stock.
The 1999,2001 Cobra will run a 13.50@105 stock.

Back in the normal world.

The 1993 Cobra should run about 14.2@101.
The 1994-1995 Cobra should run about 14.3@100.
The 1996-1998 Cobra should run about 14.0@102.
the 1999,2001 Cobra should run about 13.8@104.

That's what I would expect a decent driver to pull out of those cars. A shitty driver could put those cars into the 15's.

If a stock SN95 GT is hangin with an SN95 Cobra with equal mods, it's quite simple. The GT driver kicks *** , or the Cobra driver sucks, or both. Even with the god aweful calibrations for the computet the Cobra puts down better than the said 235-240hp. With just a couple very minor mods those cars put down 260RWHP, not crank. The stock GT will NEVER do that unless it's been modded.

GP6T 11-01-2001 04:35 AM

UNIT, I think your mph #'s are REAL optomistic, espeacially when put next to the times. I'v seen a few late cobras at the track with many mods including gears and drag radials that had a HELL of a time getting in the 13's.

SaleenGTS 11-01-2001 09:30 AM

Optimistic???? how do you figure that? Remember, from 93 up they rated the cars closer to RWHP than FWHP. These cars DO HAVE quality power making parts.

So basically you are saying that those heads and Intakes, cams and Rockers aren't good enouth to hit 100 mph. That to me is a brave thing to say in a mustang room. I had a 93 Cobra with a full Bassani Exhaust, 77mm MAF, 70 mm TB and pullies hit 260 at the tires. It ran 105's. All the time you see GT-40 guys running 104-106's in here, so why can't the stock cars do the same? I know magazines don't mean squat to some, but MM&FF tested a bone stock 93 Cobra to a 13.7@104 not too long ago. Stock Fox's run in the 97-98 mph range all day and some cars even hit 100 sometimes. So you are saying that the Cobra isn't much faster if at all then the Fox? Hmm....Units numbers look more pesimistic than optimistic to me.

Sorry, no flame, I just haven't been around in a while and have been missing out on some action. My mouts has been salivating http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

Later guys

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Dustin
89 Saleen GT Sport,347, TFS Street Heat Intake(port matched),TFS TW Heads(Stage 2),TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's

12.3@119 street tires OLD MOTOR

11.496@121.08slicks OLD MOTOR

Dark_5.0 11-01-2001 01:09 PM

They got the 01' cobra to run a 13.5 by removing the air silencer spraying the hell out of the track and power shifting every gear. (dont forget professional driver)

I know a guy with a stock 96' mistic cobra he runs 14.20' @99mph @3000ft Now that is nothing to sneeze at. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/wink.gif

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88 mustang gt convertible bored to 306 BBk equal length headers, mac cold air fender kit, 3.73 FMS gears, Steeds Tri-ax shifter, Steeda underdrive pullies, Custom off road X-pipe, 2 chamber flow masters, cowl hood, nitto drag radials, ford racing clutch, 160* thermostat 16 degrees of timing electric fan off 94' t-bird jacobs electronics cap and wires. Edelbrock 1 1/2 inch drop springs. (Best E.T. 14.79@93mph @3000ft)

haulin'balz 11-01-2001 02:34 PM

Very low 14's all the way for a 94-95 Cobra. And, Unit/Dustin, you're right, those 1/4 times and traps seem to be inline to me!

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'90 5.0 LX - heads, intake, cam, fuel delivery, gears, full exhaust, pulleys, ignition, drag springs, front brake upgrade, a/c delete, K&N cone filter charger.......and much more!
1/4 mile: 12.29 @115
60': 1.78

1BAD89 11-01-2001 06:03 PM

***but MM&FF tested a bone stock 93 Cobra to a 13.7@104 not too long ago.

Just for comparison sake, that same mag. had a bone stock SS running 12.70@ like what 109? on street tires.

***Its odd that my car with 215hp stock beat my friends 95 Cobra with 240hp stock. We both had similar mods at the time like H pipe and air filter. He didnt catch me till the top of 4th waay after the qtr mile was over. With the stock gears I was passing the traps in third.

Just more proof from the real world. ;o)

***1BAD....Hi 14's??? Lookie here. GT-40 heads and a GT-40 Intake alone is a 40-45 hp increase. I think you all are underestimating the 94-95 GT-40 cars. Now they aren't as fast as the 93 Cobra, due to some weight issues, but I think they are far worthy of a 14.1-14.3@98-100. Look at it this way. You see cars with the same heads trapping 105 UNPORTED, so I see no reason why they shouldn't run a low 14.

Maybe.........I haven't seen it yet. It's always the driver and we all know that, but I'll give it a 14.5, I never said it wouldn't run that. I smoked a 95 Cobra at the track the other day really bad, along with a 98 cobra and a few other cars. Me and the 98 Cobra had a pretty decent race, until a little before mid track and I just started pulling hardcore.

***Even with the god aweful<---- calibrations for the computet the Cobra puts down better than the said 235-240hp.

Is that just a mis-type or you really think you spell awful like that? ;o)

***I'll be a ricer, or an LS1 guy for a minute.

The 1993 Cobra will run a 13.70@102 stock.
The 1994-1995 Cobra will run a 13.90@101 stock.
The 1996-1998 Cobra will run a 13.80@102 stock.
The 1999,2001 Cobra will run a 13.50@105 stock.

Back in the normal world.

The 1993 Cobra should run about 14.2@101.
The 1994-1995 Cobra should run about 14.3@100.
The 1996-1998 Cobra should run about 14.0@102.
the 1999,2001 Cobra should run about 13.8@104.

That made no sense.

Hey Saleen, when are me and you going to hook up somewhere, and run the S-10 vs. Saleen?

-1989 GT, not stock.
-2000 Camaro SS-A4,
-1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383, RPM air-gap intake, demon carb., tubbed, trick flow TW heads, trick flow pistons, 6" rod's, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, 4 inch cowl hood, Ford 9", auburn Pro-series Posi, Pro-billet distributor, Sanderson Jet-hot coated headers, Custom radiator, 4:11 gears, etc..etc...custom 3 inch exhaust and I ran out of room. ;o)




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ThreePonyStable 11-01-2001 07:33 PM

Another thing with the '93 Cobra is that they made <supposedly> 20 less pound feet of torque than the stock 5.0s. They were rated at 235hp and 280tq. Although I think these numbers are off a friend of mine with nearly the same setup as a Cobra on his LX can only hit 97-100 in the quarter and hasn't seen 13s all year. I blame it on the driver, but seeing his trap speeds, theres not much improvement with street tires.

Unit 5302 11-01-2001 08:00 PM

It's quite simple 1BAD89. LS1 owners and Ricers quote the fastest time for their cars possible. A stock LS1 M6 will run 12.90@108mph, and an Integra Type R will run a 14.6@96mph.

Here in the real world, Mustang guys quote what the car will run with a good driver. Quite frankly, as SaleenGTS has pointed out, his Cobra made 260RWHP nearly stock. Translate that to flywheel hp, figure in the weight, and his car will run right with a stock LS1.

Even the guys at Motor Trend got a 99 Cobra to run a 13.5@105, and they routinely got the 96-98 Cobra's to pull off 14.0@102, and those guys are no 1/4 mile masters.

GM is widely known for giving factory wringer cars to the testers.

Sorry about the awful typo. If the only thing you can find wrong with my post is a spelling error, I'd say I'm doing alright.

(Notice my use of a complex sentance with inverted order there. "If" was at the beginning of the sentance so to signal the use of a subordinate clause. The subordinate clause required the use of a comma to seperate the multiple ideas expressed in the sentance.) In other words, sometimes I don't care what my spelling looks like so I don't always go back and proofread my posts.

I get the distinct feeling all Mustangs are slow in stock form because your car performed poorly.

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1BAD89 11-01-2001 08:11 PM

***Sorry about the awful typo. If the only thing you can find wrong with my post is a spelling error, I'd say I'm doing alright.

I was just messing with you, calm down. And my times for my SS are right on.

***(Notice my use of a complex sentance<--- with inverted order there. "If" was at the beginning of the sentance<--- so to signal the use of a subordinate clause. The subordinate clause required the use of a comma to seperate the multiple ideas expressed in the sentance<---.) In other words, sometimes I don't care what my spelling looks like so I don't always go back and proofread my posts.

AHAHA it's Sentence man. ;o) Oh well? At least you can seem to talk big to the uneducated eye.

***I get the distinct feeling all Mustangs are slow in stock form because your car performed poorly.

No I just know how stangs run with just an H-pipe and mufflers. My mustang runs good by the way. ;o)

-1989 GT, not stock.
-2000 Camaro SS-A4,
-1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383, RPM air-gap intake, demon carb., tubbed, trick flow TW heads, trick flow pistons, 6" rod's, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, 4 inch cowl hood, Ford 9", auburn Pro-series Posi, Pro-billet distributor, Sanderson Jet-hot coated headers, Custom radiator,4:11 gears, etc..etc...custom 3 inch exhaust and I ran out of room. ;o)



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Unit 5302 11-01-2001 11:28 PM

So I've made another spelling error. Oh no, what am I ever going to do?

Regardless, you know jack **** about how Mustangs run. Maybe it's because you can't drive, or maybe it's something else altogether. At least you've got an automatic to do all the shifting for you now. That way you won't **** up by granny shifting your cars. I don't know why you even hang around the Mustangworks anymore to tell you the truth. You do nothing but rip on just about every Mustang on this board while simultaneously claiming to like Mustangs?

I don't really feel much like calming down to tell you the truth. I've stayed calm watching your bullshit attacks on the Mustang since you picked up that **** pile f body several months ago. I even backed off completely and watched you continue to rip on 'Stangs for a few weeks.

If you really want to know what a Mustang can do, learn how to drive a stick shift and find out. You could just find some one who already knows how to drive and watch them as well. There are guys who can put stock fox bodies into the 13's.

You're correct, the proper spelling is sentence. I don't know why I spelled it sentance. Perhaps it was one of those common mistakes such as spelling maintenance incorrectly as maintenence

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Spelling Bee:I was just messing with you, calm down. (omit And)And (My)my times for my SS are right on.

AHAHA (It's)it's (s)Sentence(,) man. ;o) Oh well(,)? (a)At least you can (omit seem to)seem to talk big (about English) to the uneducated (omit eye)eye.

No(,) I just know how ('S)stangs run with (omit just) just an H-pipe and mufflers. My (M)mustang runs good by the way. ;o)

You're talking about how poor my spelling is; meanwhile, your grammar is terrible. A simple tool that comes with every decent word processing program is the major reason why I don't perform a detailed check for spelling errors. The tool I'm referring to is a spellchecker. Although there is a grammar check, most programs allow you to use, it's archaic in comparison to the spellchecker. The difficulties of creating an artificial intelligence and populating that intelligence’s database with the proper use of the English language are significant.

I don't know when this ridiculous spelling issue became such big problem. Quite frankly, I see typos and misspelled words in many posts by intelligent people here, but you don't see me bringing it up. If it bothers you so much, I suppose you could just leave and find a site that is more open to your negative comments about the performance potential of a stock Mustang.


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1BAD89 11-02-2001 12:32 AM

***Regardless, you know jack **** about how Mustangs run.

Yup your right I've just ran in the low 12's with a few of them. This is all to funny hearing this from someone that has never raced at a track.

***Maybe it's because you can't drive, or maybe it's something else altogether. At least you've got an automatic to do all the shifting for you now.

The SS is just my daily driver, I like the auto. It's fast and comfy, it's not my racecar. And I got a he!! of a deal on it.

***That way you won't **** up by granny shifting your cars. I don't know why you even hang around the Mustangworks anymore to tell you the truth. You do nothing but rip on just about every Mustang on this board while simultaneously claiming to like Mustangs?

LoL.

***I don't really feel much like calming down to tell you the truth. I've stayed calm watching your bullshit attacks on the Mustang since you picked up that **** pile f body several months ago. I even backed off completely and watched you continue to rip on 'Stangs for a few weeks.

Bullshit attacks huh? I don't know where you are getting that from? But I still see that you are having the female problems huh, so I'm taking it as your just a pissed off guy, letting some steam out? Well it's ok for me, this is just the internet, not my complete life. It'll be alright, just don't be so angry. Another girl will come along man.

I haven't seen ANYWHERE at all that I have been bashing mustangs. WTF are you talking about? You need to get over your insecurities that my sig. says SS. Geez. I was actually just ****** with you about the typo(hell I have typos all the time, no biggy, we all do it)until you pulled this crap, and you were trying to sound intelligent, and then you mispelled sentence over and over. Hell man I didn't do a grammar check on your post...lol

***(Notice my use of a complex sentance with inverted order there. "If" was at the beginning of the sentance so to signal the use of a subordinate clause. The subordinate clause required the use of a comma to seperate the multiple ideas expressed in the sentance.) In other words, sometimes I don't care what my spelling looks like so I don't always go back and proofread my posts.

My point is, everytime I say ANYTHING about how a mustang runs, or anything, you bring up LS1, or my car, and you always say I sh*t talk about mustangs, everytime you say that....I really don't know what your talking about, it's pointless......I don't know what your problem is, I mean what posts have I bashed mustangs? I'd sure like to see them...? Riigghhttt....because there are none. It always starts out with you starting sh*t with me. It's ok though..some people are just angry. But I mean how can you talk crap when you have never raced on a track? Your sh*t talking seems cheap and pointless to me. How's the G-tech doin? SSee ya later. ;o)

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-1989 GT, not stock.
-2000 Camaro SS-A4,
-1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383, RPM air-gap intake, demon carb., tubbed, trick flow TW heads, trick flow pistons, 6" rod's, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, 4 inch cowl hood, Ford 9", auburn Pro-series Posi, Pro-billet distributor, Sanderson Jet-hot coated headers, Custom radiator,



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fastang 11-02-2001 02:45 AM

Dustins figures are pretty accurate but 1BAD89 definitely knows how mustangs run. He's got experience to back his mouth with that most internet racers do not. Stop attacking eachother over stupid **** . Personaly having an LS1 for a daily driver and a stang as your racecar is fine.

Your average GT would never hang with a Cobra. Mine is a Hartop stickshift with the 308's from the factory at the time. My mods were ADS superchip (the same one I gave to Cam), off road H pipe, and a drop in k&n filter with the factory airbox and the factory catback.

He had a 95 Cobra with an off road H pipe, exhaust system, cold air induction kit, and a pro5.0 shifter.

I had him by a full car at the top of 3rd which is I was crossing the traps at the time, he didnt catch me till 5200 or so in 4th gear. His car had a little better top end than mine.

My car hit a 14.6 @ 96mph on a 2.2 60ft totaly totaly stock. Add my little mods and you get a mid-low 14. Go figure.

I have a hard time believing that a 94-95 Cobra with pullies and a MAF will keep up with an LS1. A 93 with a set of bolt ons and gears might, but no SN95.

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95GT, TFS T.W. heads, Holley Intake, B303 cam, FRPP 30lb injectors, Scorpion 1.6 rollers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, March Pulleys, MSD coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550 trans, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors. 190lph pump, BBK adj FPR.

90dpscoupe 11-02-2001 04:24 AM

GO unit! go unit!

ok, i see what he is saying, 1bad89 is cool, but just like the windsor power topic, he (1bad89) is saying how this guys mods wont get him a certain amount of hp? wich it wont, but if your such a mr. goodwrench....help the guy? tell him what he needs, and that his mechanic is totally stupid? thats how i see you bashing, you think you know it all about mustangs, but your here telling us how these cobras and mustangs wont hang, or cant go low 14's?

I agree a little with you, and unit, and like rev mentioned, (and he runs close to me) i have beat 99-01 cobras, it was a vert, with kennybrown suspnsion, he couldnt run better than 14.3.

And all the 94-95 cobras i run, seem to be in the 13.8-14.0 range, stock!! or close to ****** http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/wink.gif

SaleenGTS 11-02-2001 08:57 AM

[b]fastang[\b]
Nice setup, what are you running? I always wanted to go the Holley route before I got my blowjob and had my pony stroked. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

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Dustin
89 Saleen GT Sport,347, TFS Street Heat Intake(port matched),TFS TW Heads(Stage 2),TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's

516 rwhp
553 rwtq

http://www.mustangworks.com/rides/pictures/Listing1549-slot1.jpg

12.3@119 street tires OLD MOTOR

11.496@121.08slicks OLD MOTOR

1BAD89 11-02-2001 03:46 PM

***ok, i see what he is saying, 1bad89 is cool, but just like the windsor power topic, he (1bad89) is saying how this guys mods wont get him a certain amount of hp? wich it wont, but if your such a mr. goodwrench.... help the guy? tell him what he needs, and that his mechanic is totally stupid? thats how i see you bashing, you think you know it all about mustangs, but your here telling us how these cobras and mustangs wont hang, or cant go low 14's?

I never said I was bad a$$ Mr. Goodwrench. And he never asked what he needed to make that hp, he seems pretty content on the engine builder, and what he says. I should've re-phrased what I was saying. I've never seen a 94-95 cobra run 13.8 stock, or a low 14. I just go off what I have seen at the track, but everywhere is diff. You have to have a good driver to get good times, and we all know that there are some unexperienced drivers. But in no way have I bashed mustangs on here at all. I mean I said it would probaly run 1 tenth slower than what you guys said, and I am bashing mustangs? I just don't understand....?

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-1989 GT, not stock.
-2000 Camaro SS-A4,
-1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383, RPM air-gap intake, demon carb., tubbed, trick flow TW heads, trick flow pistons, 6" rod's, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, 4 inch cowl hood, Ford 9", auburn Pro-series Posi, Pro-billet distributor, Sanderson Jet-hot coated headers, Custom radiator...etc.....

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StoplightWarrior 11-02-2001 03:53 PM

Getting back to the original topic...

I'm sure with better weather, and driving, on my part, my GT could pull a 14.2.

That being said, my cobra beat my GT with me driving the cobra, and not laying rubber down in ANY gear (granny shifting). So I figure with my mods to the cobra, it's gonna run maybe a 13.8-13.9. Meaning about 14.3 stock.

Hope that helps the original question.

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Black 2000 GT Auto
Bassani X-pipe, Magnaflow Mufflers, Steeda Pulleys, K&N Filter. Steeda Weld in Subframes, Strut Tower brace, Sport Springs, Caster/Camber Plates.
Ran Once, 14.52@96.57 with a 1.32 R/T & 2.3 60'!!

Red 1994 Mustang Cobra #4343
Pulleys, Headers, Flows, Nittos, K&N filter, Shifter.

SaleenGTS 11-02-2001 04:27 PM

1BAD
Do you have aol or some kind of messeger where we can communicate back and forth with out having to post stuff?

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Dustin
89 Saleen GT Sport,347, TFS Street Heat Intake(port matched),TFS TW Heads(Stage 2),TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's

516 rwhp
553 rwtq

http://www.mustangworks.com/rides/pictures/Listing1549-slot1.jpg

12.3@119 street tires OLD MOTOR

11.496@121.08slicks OLD MOTOR

1BAD89 11-02-2001 05:18 PM

Yeah I have AOL, *Burnrubber7*.

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-1989 GT, not stock.
-2000 Camaro SS-A4,
-1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383, RPM air-gap intake, demon carb., tubbed, trick flow TW heads, trick flow pistons, 6" rod's, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, 4 inch cowl hood, Ford 9", auburn Pro-series Posi, Pro-billet distributor, Sanderson Jet-hot coated headers, Custom radiator,

90dpscoupe 11-02-2001 06:05 PM

Yea the 94 cobra i raced was on nittos i think, sorry, and maybe had gears, but he clicked off a 13.9 around 101-102, and im just saying what i see at the track, being i live about 5 minutes away from one, and getting ready to go right now....see ya'll around, im gonna go race a 97 t/a with an auto and some mods, his best was 13.9 @ 100, so we know we will be a close run http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/wink.gif peace....

and no problems here 1bad.

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90 lx coupe: 5spd, energy susp trans mounts, fms hd clutch, Mac coldair fenderwell, Mac h-pipe, supercoil, ADS chip, 160 stat, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs.
Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph: 98.17
Best 60': 1.9607

someday mods:4.10's, slicks.

Unit 5302 11-02-2001 07:15 PM

It's not girl issues, lol. I think it may have to do with this ******* client making some ridiculous demands at the workplace though. Basically the job is suckin *** for the moment. Don't all these millonaires have something better to do with their time????

I really should blast you that hard. I think most of the time we agree on **** , just almost never on the stock performance of the Mustang.

So lata, 1BAD89.

1BAD89 11-02-2001 09:37 PM

Sorry to here about your client situation....
See ya.

fastang 11-02-2001 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SaleenGTS:
[b]fastang[\b]
Nice setup, what are you running? I always wanted to go the Holley route before I got my blowjob and had my pony stroked. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif


Thanks but I would MUCH rather have your setup http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif The car put down 282RWHP when the intake and heads were coated with oil. My intake was sucking oil through the PCV valve. Now that I have stopped the problem and had time to burn the oil that was left the car feels much better. I think it is closer to 300 now.

I went to Fontana and ran pretty bad, I spun through first and second, then bogged third to a 14.0 @ 101. Hopefully Im meeting Sky at Carlsbad tommorow and using his slicks. I should get a decent time with a little traction.



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95GT, TFS T.W. heads, Holley Intake, B303 cam, FRPP 30lb injectors, Scorpion 1.6 rollers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, BBK Longtubes, Flowmaster cat back, March Pulleys, MSD coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550 trans, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors. 190lph pump, BBK adj FPR.

90dpscoupe 11-03-2001 12:00 AM

Well the guy i mentioned in the 97 t/a lost, i put at least a car lngth on him all the way down the track, and, i even spun almost all the way through 2nd, sorry to get off the subject though http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/smile.gif but i had a heck of a time! saw an all motor stang running 10.50s at 126 mph. i'll make another topic about that.

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90 lx coupe: 5spd, energy susp trans mounts, fms hd clutch, Mac coldair fenderwell, Mac h-pipe, supercoil, ADS chip, 160 stat, aluminum D/S, Black magic fan, 3.27grs.
Best time: 13.9116(on 225/60/15 firehawks)
Best mph: 98.17
Best 60': 1.9607

someday mods:4.10's, slicks.

rollin68 11-06-2001 01:34 AM

Just for some more info...stock 01 Cobra ran 13.66@104.97 with a 2grand launch in 5.0 Mustang...and 99 Cobra did 13.9@102.4 in Motor Trend...there's some more figures for ya http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

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68 fastback
mod 289, C4, 3.55s, 2 chamber flows

SaleenGTS 11-06-2001 10:01 AM

The only thing you have to watch out for in motor trend, car and driver and road and track is that their times are corrected....I don't think 5.0's and MM&FF's are....correct me if I am wrong, I very well may be, but that is what I heard.

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Dustin
89 Saleen GT Sport,347, TFS Street Heat Intake(port matched),TFS TW Heads(Stage 2),TFS #2 cam,BD-11A 9 psi,Crane 1.6 rr's,BBK 70mm TB,Pro-M 80mm MAF,MSD 6BTM, FMS 9mm wires,BBK longtubes,BBK Short H-pipe,American Thunder cat back,3.55's

516 rwhp
553 rwtq

http://www.mustangworks.com/rides/pictures/Listing1549-slot1.jpg

12.3@119 street tires OLD MOTOR

11.496@121.08slicks OLD MOTOR

1BAD89 11-06-2001 10:53 PM

Their "stock" SS on street tires ran a 12.7, that is why I think some of there times are BS. ;o\ And their stock Lightning ran a 13.31@104 on street tires. Most mag's are BS.

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-1989 GT, not stock.
-2000 Camaro SS-A4,
-1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383, RPM air-gap intake, demon carb., tubbed, trick flow TW heads, trick flow pistons, 6" rod's, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, 4 inch cowl hood, Ford 9", auburn Pro-series Posi, Pro-billet distributor, Sanderson Jet-hot coated headers, Custom radiator,

[This message has been edited by 1BAD89 (edited 11-06-2001).]

rollin68 11-07-2001 12:25 AM

What mag is that...motortread says the SS is 13.49@107.34

1BAD89 11-07-2001 01:45 AM

MM&FF.

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-1989 GT, not stock.
-2000 Camaro SS-A4,
-1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383, RPM air-gap intake, demon carb., tubbed, trick flow TW heads, trick flow pistons, 6" rod's, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, 4 inch cowl hood, Ford 9", auburn Pro-series Posi, Pro-billet distributor, Sanderson Jet-hot coated headers, Custom radiator,

302 LX Eric 11-08-2001 09:11 AM

They must have gotten that "reliable" information on the SS from a Mr. Johnny Hunkin's. There's a good source for ya! http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/rolleyes.gif

E

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1991 5.0 LX Coupe - 38,000 miles

13.17 @ 106.14 mph w/ 2.138 60'

1BAD89 11-08-2001 11:33 AM

MM&FF ACTUALLY bought their own SS. And I quote "If you have a Bullit, GT, or even a Cobra, and try to race a SS all your going to see are the taillights." That is not dead on but that is almost exactly what they said. It's in the mag. Don't flame me, it's what the ****** mag. said go read it for yourself.

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-1989 GT, not stock.
-2000 Camaro SS-A4,
-1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383, RPM air-gap intake, demon carb., tubbed, trick flow TW heads, trick flow pistons, 6" rod's, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, 4 inch cowl hood, Ford 9", auburn Pro-series Posi, Pro-billet distributor, Sanderson Jet-hot coated headers, Custom radiator,

rbatson 11-08-2001 09:39 PM

No chit! I saw that a month or so ago. I got your back 1bad89. If its the truth then so be it.. I know the ls1 is a bad@55 engine, you can't deny it. What they ran, heck I don't know.. I can only go by what they print. I will say this, in the 1/8th a new GT will run with a ls1 after that... the ls1 is gone! I learned this first hand. Its been long past time for FORD to up the ante! Heck, they keep it up and they will lose ALOT of thier loyals.

Vortech is offering a blower for the ls1 now and it kicks it up to 418. The blower for the lt1 is 409. The new GT? 398. I was gonna buy a new mustang in 2003 but if it doesn't get any better I'll be shopping a cheap 94-97 TA and then add a blower..

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Rick
My 89lx(updated 7/20/2001)

Rev 11-08-2001 09:48 PM

Rick is right, Ive run a few LS1's at the track. Some were modded and ran in the 12's. I beat them to the 660' (9.0/80). After that , they came roaring by me for substantial lengths at 1330' for the modded ones and 2-3 lengths for the stock LS1's.

Rev



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'66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph
1/4 mi.

1BAD89 11-08-2001 10:45 PM

The Vortech kits for the LS1 add 148+hp, and put it at 470hp, and 462ft lbs. When I take my SS out to the track the GT's/Cobra's are usually dead even with me, until a little before mid track.

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-1989 GT, not stock.
-2000 Camaro SS-A4,
-1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383, RPM air-gap intake, demon carb., tubbed, trick flow TW heads, trick flow pistons, 6" rod's, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, 4 inch cowl hood, Ford 9", auburn Pro-series Posi, Pro-billet distributor, Sanderson Jet-hot coated headers, Custom radiator,

rbatson 11-09-2001 12:00 AM

Let's not get carried away 1bad89, the figures you're giving are with an aftercooler. The cobra has 464hp BEFORE the aftercooler, but we all know what happens to a cobra on boost..

BTW, does the ls1 or lt1 had forged pistons?

1BAD89 11-11-2001 01:15 PM

I don't believe they do. Those figures are without an aftercooler by the way.

rbatson 11-11-2001 01:58 PM

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...r/01fbody.html :)


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