street tire burnouts

mak375 · 04-14-2003, 11:11 PM

should you burn 'em up in the waterbox?

jonnyk · 04-15-2003, 07:15 AM

No, under no circumstances should street tires wind up in a burnout box (exception: cheater slicks and drag radials). All you'll do is get water into the treads and drag it all over the track. Clean them off with a light spin on dry asphalt and you're set to go.

GodStang · 04-15-2003, 10:05 AM

can I second that motion?!?

mak375 · 04-15-2003, 10:48 AM

at the track where i race you arent allowed to spin outside of the box, so its either in there or not at all.

Dark_5.0 · 04-15-2003, 10:53 AM

I drive around the water and just chirp my tires to clean off any dirt that may be present.

tireburner163 · 04-15-2003, 11:15 AM

I drive around the water, the back up a little, rev it to 3500 and dump the clutch, spin em good (no brakes), then line up.

02ss · 04-15-2003, 11:52 AM

my tires have always responded well to a little short burnout. i just roll through the water, not spin in the water.

GoPed2009 · 04-15-2003, 12:09 PM

our local drag strip dosent even open the waterbox on street night (all street legal cars can race)

95ragtop · 04-15-2003, 03:38 PM

Just a quick dry chirp to dry them off. I hate it when people go through the water box with street radials and wet the starting line!!!

red82gt · 04-16-2003, 02:49 PM

Yup, around the box and give them a quick scratch on the dry pavement. On my sportsman pro's, I back it into the first edge of the water, hit the lock and let them go for ~4 seconds, anything more and they're useless.

one · 04-17-2003, 01:09 PM

Just my 2 cents, but I think burn outs are a waste of time with street tires. Not including a drag radials. But the composion of the street tire does not make a useful difference when you heat them up. They are completely different then drag radials or slicks.

Rev · 04-17-2003, 06:13 PM

I agree with the consensus. Burn-outs with street tires (other than a short, dry, clean off) are a waste of tread and $$$.

Rev

tireburner163 · 04-18-2003, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by one
Just my 2 cents, but I think burn outs are a waste of time with street tires. Not including a drag radials. But the composion of the street tire does not make a useful difference when you heat them up. They are completely different then drag radials or slicks.

I like to do a short burn out......2-4 seconds. Just to get em heated up and cleaned off. I hook MUCH better when doing that than just spining them over.

stangt00 · 04-18-2003, 10:55 AM

I got a question. I use Bridgestone Potenzas on my car, and if I smoke em on dry pavement, they get a nice coat of sticky rubber. Would they glue up like that through the box, or should I just chirp em out of the box like your saying?

slow98 · 04-19-2003, 02:35 AM

out of the box....

Rev · 04-21-2003, 06:25 PM

Seems like some are advocating water box burn outs for street tires? Maybe I'm just out of it, but this couldn't be correct, could it?

Rev

blue00gt · 04-22-2003, 01:44 PM

All of the more knowledgeable folks I asked the first time I went drag racing said to just go around the water box and spin them very briefly to clean them off on your way up to the starting line. If you do a huge burnout with street tires and get too much heat in them they get slippery and your launch will suffer.

84LX89GT · 04-24-2003, 02:52 AM

I just like doing burnouts anyway so i'll go in the waterbox. My poorest times are without burnouts, but that was when too much traction would cause wheel hop (and result in less).

Most of the time i wouldn't, but i like to try different things each run, no reason to say "No, i'll NEVER do that".

aford50lx · 04-24-2003, 05:45 PM

If i run slicks i hit the waterbox,its good to warm them puppies up before the launch,if iam on street tires ill do a small burn-out just to clean em a little.On the street,it all depends on who is there and how many females are watching.....yeah !!!! LOVE THEM PONY GIRLS!!!

bigred90gt · 04-29-2003, 11:30 AM

I've done long nasty burnouts, quick spins to knock the dirt off, and none at all, and it made no difference in 60' times or 1/4 times. Suposedly, if you do a long burnout on regular street tires, it releases the oils in the tires and will shoot your traction to hell. I didn't notice any difference, so I just dry spin them for about 1 to 2 seconds to clean them and then stage. I have never gone through the waterbox with street tires. There's no need to. If you drive a v8 and cant break street tires loose to clean them, you definalety have no business at the track, IMO.

Caymon

04-14-2003, 11:11 PM	#1
mak375 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: State College, PA Posts: 104	street tire burnouts should you burn 'em up in the waterbox? __________________ blk 94 cobra 5spd 3.73 gears steeda tri-ax, flowmaster catback, bassani x-pipe w/ high flow cats, MAC headers, ported and polished intake, trick flow twisted wedge heads, e303 cam, rear upper and lower control arms cold air induction w/ k&n air filter subframe connectors, underdrive pullies, MT ET streets, clear corners, chrome cobra r wheels

04-15-2003, 07:15 AM	#2
jonnyk Being stroked is great Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 772	No, under no circumstances should street tires wind up in a burnout box (exception: cheater slicks and drag radials). All you'll do is get water into the treads and drag it all over the track. Clean them off with a light spin on dry asphalt and you're set to go. __________________ Novi 2000 now spinning off the snout of the 331... Mods Pics

04-15-2003, 10:05 AM	#3
GodStang College Stanger Join Date: May 1999 Location: Aiken,south carolina, usa Posts: 1,097	can I second that motion?!? __________________ 2003 Sonic Blue Cobra

04-15-2003, 10:53 AM	#5
Dark_5.0 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Staging lane Posts: 4,337	I drive around the water and just chirp my tires to clean off any dirt that may be present. __________________ 92' LX-Big brakes, Lots and lots of suspension, GT40X heads, Ported cobra intake, stock cam, Vortech SC trim. 00' Lightning-Stock 88'CRX-13 second ego killer

04-15-2003, 11:15 AM	#6
tireburner163 It's a lot like a race car Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Meridian, MS Posts: 4,130	I drive around the water, the back up a little, rev it to 3500 and dump the clutch, spin em good (no brakes), then line up. __________________ 1987 Buick T-type 1998 HD Electra Elide

04-15-2003, 10:48 AM	#4
mak375 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: State College, PA Posts: 104	at the track where i race you arent allowed to spin outside of the box, so its either in there or not at all.

04-15-2003, 11:52 AM	#7
02ss Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NC Posts: 37	my tires have always responded well to a little short burnout. i just roll through the water, not spin in the water. __________________ 02 ss camaro, stock. best et 12.97@108.5 at fayetteville motorsports park soon to be sprayed 92 wrangler 350v8 700r4

04-15-2003, 12:09 PM	#8
GoPed2009 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bradenton, Fl Posts: 9	our local drag strip dosent even open the waterbox on street night (all street legal cars can race) __________________ Ben Renner

04-15-2003, 03:38 PM	#9
95ragtop Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Palmdale, CA USA Posts: 59	Just a quick dry chirp to dry them off. I hate it when people go through the water box with street radials and wet the starting line!!! __________________ Take Care, Dave 95 Mustang GT Convertible - SOLD 2000 Buick Regal GS (3.4 pulley, gutted airbox w K&N, U-bend, DHP PCM, TOG Headers. Pre-headers PB 14.81 @ 2700ft elevationw 2.25 60 ft) 1967 Electra 225 convertible (360hp)

04-16-2003, 02:49 PM	#10
red82gt Sober voice of Reason Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Kelowna, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,514	Yup, around the box and give them a quick scratch on the dry pavement. On my sportsman pro's, I back it into the first edge of the water, hit the lock and let them go for ~4 seconds, anything more and they're useless. __________________ 393W: AFR 205's, hydraulic roller, TKO600.

04-17-2003, 01:09 PM	#11
one Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: somewhere outside of nowhere Posts: 82	Just my 2 cents, but I think burn outs are a waste of time with street tires. Not including a drag radials. But the composion of the street tire does not make a useful difference when you heat them up. They are completely different then drag radials or slicks.

04-17-2003, 06:13 PM	#12
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Consensus I agree with the consensus. Burn-outs with street tires (other than a short, dry, clean off) are a waste of tread and $$$. Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

04-18-2003, 10:55 AM	#14
stangt00 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Philadelphia PA Posts: 143	I got a question. I use Bridgestone Potenzas on my car, and if I smoke em on dry pavement, they get a nice coat of sticky rubber. Would they glue up like that through the box, or should I just chirp em out of the box like your saying? __________________ 2000 GT 80mm Pro-M mass air, 24lb injectors, 75mm BBK T/B, K&N Filter Cold Air, 1/2" Phenolic intake spacer, Underdrive Pulleys, Dyno Tuned Autologic Chip, FMS Shorty Headers, Mac Prochamber 2 1/2" Off Road H pipe, 2 Chamber Flowmasters, Steeda lowering springs. Steeda Tri-Ax Short Throw shifter, Steeda Power slot rotors w/ Hawk Pro pads, 3.73 FRP Gears. Headwork and Comp cams install in progress.

04-19-2003, 02:35 AM	#15
slow98 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: draper,va,us Posts: 206	out of the box.... __________________ 1998 mustang gt/manual..373s,bbk offroad h pipe,flowmaster cat back,c&l 80 mm maf,steeda triax,eibach springs,steeda ud pulleys,upr timing adjuster,screamon demos coil packs,motorsports 9mm plug wires,steea aluminum lca's,steeda heavy duty uca's and just over 100 k on the clock

04-21-2003, 06:25 PM	#16
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Water box burn outs? Seems like some are advocating water box burn outs for street tires? Maybe I'm just out of it, but this couldn't be correct, could it? Rev __________________ '66 Coupe, 306, 350-375 HP, C-4, 13.07 e.t., 104.8 mph, 1/4 mi. O.B.C. #2 '66 coupe

04-22-2003, 01:44 PM	#17
blue00gt Mustang Addict Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,294	All of the more knowledgeable folks I asked the first time I went drag racing said to just go around the water box and spin them very briefly to clean them off on your way up to the starting line. If you do a huge burnout with street tires and get too much heat in them they get slippery and your launch will suffer. __________________ Strike down the unroadworthy! 2000 GT Atl. Blue: '03 Cobra motor - 465rwhp/473rwtq, T-56 6-speed, full MM TA/PH & tubular K-member suspension, Saleen body, 17" Torq-Thrust II's, M/T ET Street radials, and lots more '94 Rio Red Cobra: All the bolt-ons, 3.73s

04-24-2003, 02:52 AM	#18
84LX89GT Mustangs Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 1,938	I just like doing burnouts anyway so i'll go in the waterbox. My poorest times are without burnouts, but that was when too much traction would cause wheel hop (and result in less). Most of the time i wouldn't, but i like to try different things each run, no reason to say "No, i'll NEVER do that". __________________ 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300-R 1980 Ford Thunderbird - 255 V8 ported heads, 5.0L ported stock headers, O.R. H-pipe and Flowmaster 2-chambers, dual roller timing chain hi-po Mack Truck hood emblem 1985 Mustang GT 5.0L T5, F-303, GT40p, headers, off-road h, flowmasters, MSD stuff, etc. Sold 02/06/04 1989 Mustang GT ET: 13.304@102.29 mph (5-24-03) Sold - 1998 Mustang Cobra coupe, 1/4 mile - street tires: 13.843@103.41 (bone stock)

04-24-2003, 05:45 PM	#19
aford50lx Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NEW JERSEY,SOUTH SHORE Posts: 105	If i run slicks i hit the waterbox,its good to warm them puppies up before the launch,if iam on street tires ill do a small burn-out just to clean em a little.On the street,it all depends on who is there and how many females are watching.....yeah !!!! LOVE THEM PONY GIRLS!!!

04-29-2003, 11:30 AM	#20
bigred90gt 2 Stangs in the Stable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baytown, TX Posts: 1,209	I've done long nasty burnouts, quick spins to knock the dirt off, and none at all, and it made no difference in 60' times or 1/4 times. Suposedly, if you do a long burnout on regular street tires, it releases the oils in the tires and will shoot your traction to hell. I didn't notice any difference, so I just dry spin them for about 1 to 2 seconds to clean them and then stage. I have never gone through the waterbox with street tires. There's no need to. If you drive a v8 and cant break street tires loose to clean them, you definalety have no business at the track, IMO. Caymon __________________ '90 GT Under construction Best E.T. = Fast @ High Speeds - OK So I Lie. So What!!! 04 F-150 STX 4.2L 5 spd Rice Haters Club Member #128

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