turbo neon talking smack

Stang_Crazy · 02-09-2001, 03:08 PM

My buddy told me that this neon was talking smack about mustangs and camaros. He said he beat a supercharged mustang GT with the neon. He also said his neon is putting out 275hp which is hard to believe without massive psi or no2. So i said i wanted to race him so hopefully a race will be set up so i can see what he has.

I know my stang isn't that fast but i don't think this kid is even close to 275 horse. He never ran his car so no one knows how fast it is. I just got my asp pulleys today so maybe i'll wait till i get them on before i do any racing.

oh yea, get this...this is a direct quote from this neon kid: "I have 275 horsepower right now, but if i take everything out, i'll be around 300." WTF???? correct me if im wrong but lightening up a car does not add horsepower...

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quikturbo · 02-09-2001, 03:45 PM

that guy is probably just talkin'trash
by me in IL, Hahn Race Craft has a 10sec neon, but its boosted like a mutha!!!

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Chris
99 GS-T

Stang_Crazy · 02-09-2001, 03:46 PM

If he really is pushing 270hp, what should he run? I probably won't have a chance but i'll make it close because my little pony is a rocket from 0-60.

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91 GT AOD
Ultra Blue Metallic
3.73's, flows,
PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph
2.11 60'

95GTS · 02-09-2001, 03:56 PM

I wouldn't worry about it. Run him anyways. He's obviously full of hot air by the 300 hp statement. Make him prove it. It's all talk till he shows what he's got. If he won't race then you definitely know he's full of crap. Just make him prove it.

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1996 Mustang GTS

quikturbo · 02-09-2001, 03:59 PM

I second that!
Put up or shut up

With a good launch you should get a great jump on him, (gotta love that pony torque)
he will still be waiting for his turbo to spool up

take him
chris

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Chris
99 GS-T

exgmguy · 02-09-2001, 04:06 PM

Don't think you'll blow him away though. I've seen a bunch of those cars with the usual fart pipe and a little spray going low 14's at around 98 mph....

Ty'97Cobra · 02-09-2001, 04:20 PM

Most of those boys just talk a lot of smack.

Get on it hard from the start and don't play with him at all. Maybe he will be able to keep up, maybe not. Post the results when you are done.

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Mostly Stock
1988 5.0 LX Convertible -Work Car...Few Mods.

Stang_Crazy · 02-09-2001, 05:48 PM

I know he has the turbo but I don't think he's sprayin it too. He also claims to have a 6-speed. Don't the neons come with a 5-speed and not a 6?

If the rain holds off tonight, i'll race him tonight. It's gonna be a nice night of 65 deg. weather.

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91 GT AOD
Ultra Blue Metallic
3.73's, flows,
PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph
2.11 60'

smithbling · 02-10-2001, 12:11 AM

If he has any kind of commendable turbo setup.....YOUR DEAD IMO.

He's probably just talking trash.

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C ME FLY
88 coupe = MAC headers, H-pipe, and Chrome 2.5" pipes, pullies, K&N filter, BM shifter, 17" ROH ZR6, Dropped 1.5".

inferno · 02-10-2001, 07:37 AM

The only way he has a 6 speed is if he has a sequential tranny which means custom gear sets and no clutch shifting. If he has the money to buy a sequential tranny(they start off at around 8,000), then his motor should be a real mean machine and not only 275 hp. He is full of $hit. Smoke him like a Garcia Vega.

Stang_Crazy · 02-10-2001, 01:09 PM

I saw him last night but for some reason, he didn't have his car. We talked for a little bit though. He said his turbo runs at 9 psi. He also said the company "guarantees" at least 270 hp from the turbo which i find hard to believe because the neons only have like 150 hp stock. I don't know of any kit that guarantees an increase of 120% in horsepower.

He never mentioned any fuel system upgrades either...oh get this, he is still running the stock tranny too!! I think if he knew how to drive it, that trany would have been toast by now.

He said we can race for 100 bucks but maybe instead of 100 bucks, i'll pay for his dyno test if he wins. Then he'll know how much power he is making.

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91 GT AOD
Ultra Blue Metallic
3.73's, flows,
PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph
2.11 60'

exgmguy · 02-10-2001, 06:59 PM

I hope you get to run him. I really want to know how quick it is.

stanger8172 · 02-10-2001, 09:07 PM

Can't wait till you race him and tell us how it went. Drive it like you stole it!!!!!!

95ragtop · 02-14-2001, 11:57 AM

He is definately full of it. At 9psi he is running a little over half an atmosphere, and with 100% efficiency he would be looking at around 245 hp. Since 100% efficiency is impossible(thermal losses), I'd think he'd be closer to 200-210 at the crank.

Take care,
Dave

inferno · 02-14-2001, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 95ragtop:
He is definately full of it. At 9psi he is running a little over half an atmosphere, and with 100% efficiency he would be looking at around 245 hp. Since 100% efficiency is impossible(thermal losses), I'd think he'd be closer to 200-210 at the crank.

Take care,
Dave

You seem to know a little about turbos, but you forget that different sized turbos flow at different rates and more horsepower can be made. For example, a stock Eclipse turbo at 10lbs makes less horsepower than a 18G turbo at 10lbs at the same RPM because the 18G is more efficient and is compressing more air because of it's larger size. Without knowing the size of his turbo, you can't realistically guess at the HP made by the car. But seeing all of the BS he has been saying, I think you are probably right about that HP rating since the Hahn Racing stage 1 kit gives about 210 to the crank. I am assuming that is what he has which means he is a 14 second car.

Stang_Crazy · 02-14-2001, 03:21 PM

I'll have my pulleys on in the next couple of days and hopefully they will help me a little bit. Even if he is making 210hp at the crank, I don't think he should be talking all the trash that he is.

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91 GT AOD
Ultra Blue Metallic
3.73's, flows,
PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph
2.11 60'

91LX2Bfast · 02-15-2001, 05:48 PM

Neon R/T's or ACR's w/ intake and exhaust w/ awsome drivers have laid down 14.9-15.0's. If he does have the Hahn Race Craft system, you might be in for a surprise. Those things are very light and can move w/ the turbo's. Even if it is a good system, by the way he talks, you know he doesn't know how to drive. So go and give it a try. WTF, worst thing that happens is you lose, go get more mods, then try again.

Stang_Crazy · 02-15-2001, 07:17 PM

Well, he said that he has a BIG problem with traction. So while he is spinning, I'll just hook and go. All I have to to is get a good launch and wait for him to catch me. It should be good.

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91 GT AOD
Ultra Blue Metallic
3.73's, flows,
PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph
2.11 60'

fastang · 02-15-2001, 07:44 PM

I hate to say this to a fellow stanger but your probalby not going to win

I whooped on a turbo sohc civic once when my car only had a chip, k&n, Hpipe, and pulleys but I hit a 14.6 stock and was running a little quicker after those mods. I REALY hate people that talk shitt like that too, he probably deserves to get his azz beat. Slap on the pulleys, bump your timing and bust a decent launch and you MIGHT hold him off. Good Luck.

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dinomite · 02-15-2001, 07:59 PM

but see, odds are, like most "import tunerz", he just has a stock car.d

02-09-2001, 03:08 PM	#1
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	turbo neon talking smack My buddy told me that this neon was talking smack about mustangs and camaros. He said he beat a supercharged mustang GT with the neon. He also said his neon is putting out 275hp which is hard to believe without massive psi or no2. So i said i wanted to race him so hopefully a race will be set up so i can see what he has. I know my stang isn't that fast but i don't think this kid is even close to 275 horse. He never ran his car so no one knows how fast it is. I just got my asp pulleys today so maybe i'll wait till i get them on before i do any racing. oh yea, get this...this is a direct quote from this neon kid: "I have 275 horsepower right now, but if i take everything out, i'll be around 300." WTF???? correct me if im wrong but lightening up a car does not add horsepower... ------------------ 91 GT AOD Ultra Blue Metallic 3.73's, flows, PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph

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02-09-2001, 03:45 PM	#2
quikturbo Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: wheeling, IL Posts: 9	that guy is probably just talkin'trash by me in IL, Hahn Race Craft has a 10sec neon, but its boosted like a mutha!!! ------------------ Chris 99 GS-T

02-09-2001, 03:46 PM	#3
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	If he really is pushing 270hp, what should he run? I probably won't have a chance but i'll make it close because my little pony is a rocket from 0-60. ------------------ 91 GT AOD Ultra Blue Metallic 3.73's, flows, PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph 2.11 60'

02-09-2001, 03:56 PM	#4
95GTS Git jiggy Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: MO USA Posts: 865	I wouldn't worry about it. Run him anyways. He's obviously full of hot air by the 300 hp statement. Make him prove it. It's all talk till he shows what he's got. If he won't race then you definitely know he's full of crap. Just make him prove it. ------------------ 1996 Mustang GTS

02-09-2001, 03:59 PM	#5
quikturbo Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: wheeling, IL Posts: 9	I second that! Put up or shut up With a good launch you should get a great jump on him, (gotta love that pony torque) he will still be waiting for his turbo to spool up take him chris ------------------ Chris 99 GS-T

02-09-2001, 04:06 PM	#6
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	Don't think you'll blow him away though. I've seen a bunch of those cars with the usual fart pipe and a little spray going low 14's at around 98 mph....

02-09-2001, 04:20 PM	#7
Ty'97Cobra Registered Member Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: NC Posts: 308	Most of those boys just talk a lot of smack. Get on it hard from the start and don't play with him at all. Maybe he will be able to keep up, maybe not. Post the results when you are done. ------------------ 1997 Black Cobra Convertible. #2788 of 3088 Mostly Stock 1988 5.0 LX Convertible -Work Car...Few Mods.

02-09-2001, 05:48 PM	#8
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	I know he has the turbo but I don't think he's sprayin it too. He also claims to have a 6-speed. Don't the neons come with a 5-speed and not a 6? If the rain holds off tonight, i'll race him tonight. It's gonna be a nice night of 65 deg. weather. ------------------ 91 GT AOD Ultra Blue Metallic 3.73's, flows, PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph 2.11 60'

02-10-2001, 12:11 AM	#9
smithbling Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Kitchener Ontario Canada Posts: 239	If he has any kind of commendable turbo setup.....YOUR DEAD IMO. He's probably just talking trash. ------------------ C ME FLY 88 coupe = MAC headers, H-pipe, and Chrome 2.5" pipes, pullies, K&N filter, BM shifter, 17" ROH ZR6, Dropped 1.5".

02-10-2001, 07:37 AM	#10
inferno The Instigator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: So Cal and Houston Posts: 764	The only way he has a 6 speed is if he has a sequential tranny which means custom gear sets and no clutch shifting. If he has the money to buy a sequential tranny(they start off at around 8,000), then his motor should be a real mean machine and not only 275 hp. He is full of $hit. Smoke him like a Garcia Vega.

02-10-2001, 01:09 PM	#11
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	I saw him last night but for some reason, he didn't have his car. We talked for a little bit though. He said his turbo runs at 9 psi. He also said the company "guarantees" at least 270 hp from the turbo which i find hard to believe because the neons only have like 150 hp stock. I don't know of any kit that guarantees an increase of 120% in horsepower. He never mentioned any fuel system upgrades either...oh get this, he is still running the stock tranny too!! I think if he knew how to drive it, that trany would have been toast by now. He said we can race for 100 bucks but maybe instead of 100 bucks, i'll pay for his dyno test if he wins. Then he'll know how much power he is making. ------------------ 91 GT AOD Ultra Blue Metallic 3.73's, flows, PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph 2.11 60'

02-10-2001, 06:59 PM	#12
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,631	I hope you get to run him. I really want to know how quick it is.

02-10-2001, 09:07 PM	#13
stanger8172 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Milwaukee,Wisconsin Posts: 380	Can't wait till you race him and tell us how it went. Drive it like you stole it!!!!!!

02-14-2001, 11:57 AM	#14
95ragtop Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Palmdale, CA USA Posts: 59	He is definately full of it. At 9psi he is running a little over half an atmosphere, and with 100% efficiency he would be looking at around 245 hp. Since 100% efficiency is impossible(thermal losses), I'd think he'd be closer to 200-210 at the crank. Take care, Dave

02-14-2001, 03:21 PM	#16
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	I'll have my pulleys on in the next couple of days and hopefully they will help me a little bit. Even if he is making 210hp at the crank, I don't think he should be talking all the trash that he is. ------------------ 91 GT AOD Ultra Blue Metallic 3.73's, flows, PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph 2.11 60'

02-15-2001, 05:48 PM	#17
91LX2Bfast Registered Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Warrington, PA Posts: 694	Neon R/T's or ACR's w/ intake and exhaust w/ awsome drivers have laid down 14.9-15.0's. If he does have the Hahn Race Craft system, you might be in for a surprise. Those things are very light and can move w/ the turbo's. Even if it is a good system, by the way he talks, you know he doesn't know how to drive. So go and give it a try. WTF, worst thing that happens is you lose, go get more mods, then try again.

02-15-2001, 07:17 PM	#18
Stang_Crazy It's never clean enough! Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Shaler, PA Posts: 1,542	Well, he said that he has a BIG problem with traction. So while he is spinning, I'll just hook and go. All I have to to is get a good launch and wait for him to catch me. It should be good. ------------------ 91 GT AOD Ultra Blue Metallic 3.73's, flows, PI Converter, 14.71@91.78mph 2.11 60'

02-15-2001, 07:44 PM	#19
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	I hate to say this to a fellow stanger but your probalby not going to win I whooped on a turbo sohc civic once when my car only had a chip, k&n, Hpipe, and pulleys but I hit a 14.6 stock and was running a little quicker after those mods. I REALY hate people that talk shitt like that too, he probably deserves to get his azz beat. Slap on the pulleys, bump your timing and bust a decent launch and you MIGHT hold him off. Good Luck. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

02-15-2001, 07:59 PM	#20
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	but see, odds are, like most "import tunerz", he just has a stock car.d