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Old 06-12-2001, 01:43 AM   #1
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Well I talk to this guy on occasion on AOL that lives near me with a TT Supra. I asked him how much HP he was pushing today, he says 713. I say holy **** RW? he said nah, 645 at the RW on 92 octane. So I asked him when he wants to race. He said its a show car and he never runs it.

I asked him what he did to it he said, Garret something Twin Turbo setup at 25psi.

So I asked him what mph it runs. He goes "Oh you ment to say what trap speed" I said yeah whatever. He said 119. I laughed and said my car can trap that on NOS, and it has nothing near 645rwhp. He said, yeah, but your car is light mine is almost 3300lbs with me in it.

I told him come out to bakersfield and I'll race you with my little 300rwhp 302 + a 150shot of nos.

So he tells me he needs to get nos, because his car has bad low end turbo lag.
A 645rwhp car is slow on the lowend? You can't even spray nos at low rpms?

Then I mentioned how I got beat by a viper, he proceeds to laugh at me, and say how ******* slow vipers are they are pathetic. Blah blah...

Then I challenge him to race again he claims he has to work all weekend. So he finally just stops responding to my IM's.

What a loser! I have to cut and paste some quotes from his AOL profile though...

"Living life 1/4 at a time"
-someone that doesnt race might I add

"its turbo charged"

"working on cars" "speedracersupra"

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Old 06-12-2001, 04:53 AM   #2
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Dont go from a roll, and you should spank him off the line from a stop, but 600+ hp should make up for the turbo lag, i think you will kill him with nos, i consider TT's a power adder, so your nos should be fair.
unless he runs 10's which i doubt, then it'll be close.
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Old 06-12-2001, 08:33 AM   #3
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yea sky i dont doubt that supras out that hp but they dont dont a 645hp all motor msuatng would kill a 645hp supra cuz the mustang(or anyother all motor car)is making the power quicker and has a way better power curve..
supras even in mostley stock form will kill headed, cammed, intaked etc. mustangs from a roll(60+mph)
now weather or not this guy is lieing is another storey
and yes the supra bottom end can handle upwards of 800+hp but at that power levals most people will have converted to a big single turbo setup instead of 2 lil ones

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Old 06-12-2001, 08:47 AM   #4
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What a liar...645 rwhp in a 3300 lb car would get about 135 traps.

BS ALERT!!!!!!BS ALERT!!!!!!

you should find out where he lives and scare the shiznit outta him.

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Old 06-12-2001, 11:12 AM   #5
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Ok let me enlighten you. I am sure you know how turbo's on cars work. So the bigger the turbo is the more top end power you will have, thus making all your horse power near red line. The turbo lag for this huge turbo's can be crazy. It could take as much a 5,000 rpm to gte boost up to the max of 25 psi or whatever. My next door neighbor owns a 95 Talon turbo running 18 psi with a competely built engine. Yet I can get him off the line all day. But once his rpm's build up it is over. Check out this link to this Supra being dynoed. http://www.teamrmotorsports.com/supra_dyno_874rwhp[1].mpeg

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Old 06-12-2001, 01:24 PM   #6
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Well, if he does infact have a Garrett twin turbo upgrade(2350), he can in fact have 645whp. There is a Garrett TT upgrade that can get over 1,000whp, but I forgot what turbos those are. The fact that it is a twin set-up means that there is minimal lag. 25psi should be reached by 3,500 rpms(with 2350 ball bearing turbos). With that much hp, he should be able to run a very traction limited 11.xx at over 120 on street tires in full street trim. I think he is full of it. If his claims are correct he shouldn't back down from a race that he should easily win. I think he is reading about someone elses set-up that he wants to do to his car. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a NA Supra.

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Old 06-12-2001, 03:43 PM   #7
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My friend raced a real one (Garrett twin) ON a VERY Busy road. Form a stop we took about a car on him in frist and then he was gone I me very fast he smoked though 4 gears!!!!!! I was just after a car show. I would say it was the fastest car I have seen on the road.
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Old 06-13-2001, 12:56 AM   #8
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I think hes talkin about someone elses combo too. 600+rwhp in 3300lbs is gonna go a lot more than 119mph.

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Old 06-13-2001, 07:50 AM   #9
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Another vote for an N/A Supra. This guy has probably seen/heard about the Garrett (sp?) twin turbo system and figures he will purchase it, bolt it on in a couple hours, and then magically have 645 rwhp.

I can tell you this, if I had a 645 RWHP twin turbo Supra - I would not be backing down from many races!

Try to get him to race, Sky! I want to know what happens...keep us updated.

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Old 06-14-2001, 01:00 AM   #10
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I would up the nos t0 175 and race his azz, imagine what an incon turbo stang would do to a supra? it would kill, but we all know that
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Old 06-15-2001, 03:15 PM   #11
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Ok, this guy was probably talkin smack.
First off, there are only a couple of aftermarket twin turbo setups for sale for the supra (HKS) As for this guys trap, I can run that with BPU (basic performance upgrades)and click off a 12.0 to 12.2

As for the twin setup vs the single turbo, someone made a comment about twins having less lag then a single, it really depends, but in most cases the twins have way more lag then a nice sized single

I think you hit the nail on the head Eric. So many people bench race and read about mods and then talk as if they had them. With that much horse, I wouldn't be backin' down to anything!


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Old 06-17-2001, 12:16 AM   #12
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This guy has 645rwhp Supra like I have a McLaren F1 that I built in my spare time. Not gonna happen!
Anyway, Sky, when are you gonna get some new video shots of your car up?

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Old 06-17-2001, 02:03 PM   #13
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Soon I hope, This friday Im going to the track so it should be then!

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Old 06-17-2001, 11:55 PM   #14
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Skyler,

Nice to see were in the same area. Im in Ventura off the 33 about 7 miles from you. I think your TT guy talks alot. Supra TT's are fast cars but talk is slow. If you go to www.tweak3d.net/videos/videos2.shtml you will find a TT supra on the dyno that tested with over 780+hp, damn near came off the dyno! Im sure your IM buddie saw that and is a wanna be. If you do run him, whoooopppp his frickin *** just for the point!

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Old 06-17-2001, 11:59 PM   #15
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By the way skyler,

Is your car White? There is a bad *** one roaming around here sometimes. Your profile has an error, so i cant see it. Just curious.
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Old 06-18-2001, 04:09 AM   #16
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Mines Red. So you live in Ventura? What kinda stang you got? You should come with us to the track this friday out to Bakerfield if you can make it. If not we should hook up and cruise out to the street races some weekend. Nice to see someone else local.

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Old 06-20-2001, 05:20 PM   #17
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Skyler,

Whats up man! Nice car you got there. Dont think ive seen it around town. We need to hook up sometime. Unfortunatly my car couldnt keep the e.t times that you have being that its a six. The best run i ever had was a 13.96@104 with the bottle. The old engine was a moderatly beefed 95, but droped a valve in the number three cylinder so i replaced it with a new six out of a 97. The new motor only has 26k on it now with a few mods. I havent run it yet, but am assuming i should pull at least a mid 14. Anyway Skyler, you can see it at: www.extremestangs.com

You can e-mail there as well, talk to you soon and sorry that i got to this post so late. Deffinately want to go to the track sometime.
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Old 06-22-2001, 09:29 AM   #18
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This is the real numbers. 94 twin turbo(stock turbos w/boost control) with very mild upgrades put 401 hp to the Rw. At Rockingham in March it ran a 12.04 at 124mph and spun trough 1st and most of 2nd on nitto's. If anyone was at Rockingham for the Import event will testify to this. The car is Red with "Eastside motorsports" on the side of it. I own a 99 cobra with some upgrades and not only have I raced the Supra and lost but I've driven it and felt the cool power of turbos. If you do not believe this and want proof then maybe we can set a little something up. Check out www.teamrush.net and see the "Fastest and Most Furious"
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Old 06-23-2001, 04:16 PM   #19
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Damn gettin a 104mph out of a 6banger even with the bottle is good. You'd spank a lot of V8's up here if you ever wanna race.


Anyways, check out this long convo I had w/ the supra idiot today...

LSkymanl: see fast and the furious yet
Speedracersupra: yes
Speedracersupra: i was there last night
Speedracersupra: at a supra meet
LSkymanl: yeah I saw it last night too

Speedracersupra: i was with
Speedracersupra: 40 supras
LSkymanl: what theater

Speedracersupra: 1 rx7
Speedracersupra: 10 3000gt
Speedracersupra: 2 is300
LSkymanl: thats a lot of cars
LSkymanl: it was a pretty damn good movie
LSkymanl: I mean some things were pretty unrealistic, but hey its a movie
Speedracersupra: our car
Speedracersupra: was in it man
Speedracersupra: ha ha
Speedracersupra: thats why we had
LSkymanl: yeah I know
Speedracersupra: that supra
Speedracersupra: was fucked
LSkymanl: the only real cars in that movie was the rx7 supra and dodge

Speedracersupra: up when they brought it

Speedracersupra: dodge what?
Speedracersupra: that ugly old thing?
LSkymanl: yeah
LSkymanl: the charger
Speedracersupra: eww
Speedracersupra: they skyline
Speedracersupra: u didnt even see it?
Speedracersupra: they showed it all kinds
Speedracersupra: the silvia
Speedracersupra: dude u dont know jap cars
LSkymanl: no I dont
Speedracersupra: omg
Speedracersupra: the skyline
LSkymanl: when are we gonna race tho
Speedracersupra: never
LSkymanl: yeah, ive heard of those
Speedracersupra: it was
Speedracersupra: the only one that was right had drive
Speedracersupra: that tough guy
Speedracersupra: g/f
Speedracersupra: had a turbo silvia
LSkymanl: oh


LSkymanl: Hmm, I dont know what those are
Speedracersupra: lol
Speedracersupra: thats why
Speedracersupra: u doint know man
Speedracersupra: supercharged maxima
LSkymanl: I never saw a maxima

LSkymanl: or under the hood of one

Speedracersupra: dude
Speedracersupra: the supercharged maxma has 300 hp
LSkymanl: it doesnt come factory supercharged
Speedracersupra: so
Speedracersupra: how about a solara supercharged
Speedracersupra: 280
Speedracersupra: stock
Speedracersupra: from dealer
LSkymanl: they solaras blown from the factory now?
Speedracersupra: yes
LSkymanl: didnt know that
Speedracersupra: they come supercharged
Speedracersupra: if u want them
LSkymanl: so you got 700hp, 300's nothin
Speedracersupra: 700?
Speedracersupra: where did u get that #?
Speedracersupra: i got 500
LSkymanl: from you
Speedracersupra: i will have 700
Speedracersupra: when im done
Speedracersupra: with my turbo upgrade
LSkymanl: last time u told me u dynoed it
LSkymanl: in LV
LSkymanl: 600 something at the rear wheels
Speedracersupra: which one?
Speedracersupra: i got 2 supras
Speedracersupra: i got a 93 and a 94
LSkymanl: what do t hey both have

LSkymanl: if uve dynoed them or run em at the track
Speedracersupra: i dont want to run u dude
Speedracersupra: give it up
Speedracersupra: i dont run domestics
LSkymanl: whys that
Speedracersupra: just dont
Speedracersupra: i run
Speedracersupra: silvias
Speedracersupra: rx7
Speedracersupra: 3000gt
Speedracersupra: 300zx
Speedracersupra: supercars
LSkymanl: so you'll race my 94 integra then

Speedracersupra: omg
Speedracersupra: thats not a import
Speedracersupra: those are a joke
LSkymanl: yes it is

Speedracersupra: lol
Speedracersupra: i meant supercars
Speedracersupra: not supergood gas millege
LSkymanl: so you wont race me at all

Speedracersupra: why r u stuck on racing me?
Speedracersupra: if u find me on the street
LSkymanl: I dunno
Speedracersupra: ill think about it
LSkymanl: haha
Speedracersupra: but till then
Speedracersupra: im to busy
Speedracersupra: working
LSkymanl: alright...
Speedracersupra: to go to the track
LSkymanl: I just dont think u got that much power
Speedracersupra: lol
LSkymanl: goto the street races much? Id like to check that car out
Speedracersupra: on which one?
Speedracersupra: the white one?
or the silver one?
Speedracersupra: or my blue one?
LSkymanl: which ever u prefre
LSkymanl: you have 3 now?
Speedracersupra: i drive the silver mostly
Speedracersupra: that gots 500 hp
Speedracersupra: the blue one gots 300 hp
Speedracersupra: thts 3rd gen supra
Speedracersupra: the 94 is white
Speedracersupra: it gots
Speedracersupra: 618 to to the wheels
Speedracersupra: about 700 flywheel
Speedracersupra: its running a t78 turbo
Speedracersupra: with 850 injectors
LSkymanl: a single turbo?

Speedracersupra: im getting a
Speedracersupra: bottle of happy gas
Speedracersupra: for it
LSkymanl: why not more boost
LSkymanl: last time u said u had twin turbos
Speedracersupra: thats my silver one
Speedracersupra: the white one
Speedracersupra: is single
LSkymanl: oh ok
Speedracersupra: yes
LSkymanl: cool
Speedracersupra: im still
Speedracersupra: putting the stuff on it now
Speedracersupra: its still missing
Speedracersupra: a hood
Speedracersupra: and front headlights
Speedracersupra: im goiing to take my hood of my silver one
Speedracersupra: and put it on there
Speedracersupra: and get me diffrent hood for my silver one
LSkymanl: ahh
LSkymanl: so you run em on the street much
Speedracersupra: the silver one yes
Speedracersupra: the white
Speedracersupra: one isnt registered
Speedracersupra: or should i say
Speedracersupra: insured
Speedracersupra: i mean
Speedracersupra: the blue one isnt either
Speedracersupra: im going to sell the blue one
Speedracersupra: and going to
Speedracersupra: just race the white one at the track
Speedracersupra: but the races
Speedracersupra: that i go to
Speedracersupra: wouldnt let u
Speedracersupra: race me
LSkymanl: whys that
LSkymanl: I dont get it
Speedracersupra: u r
Speedracersupra: domestic
LSkymanl: what track are you going to goto
Speedracersupra: im import
Speedracersupra: your
Speedracersupra: integra
LSkymanl: so?f
Speedracersupra: is fwd
Speedracersupra: im rwd
Speedracersupra: they put me up
Speedracersupra: against
Speedracersupra: skylines
LSkymanl: My mustang is RWD
Speedracersupra: 300gt
Speedracersupra: yes
LSkymanl: those are AWD
LSkymanl: so thats not the same
Speedracersupra: not all of them
Speedracersupra: not all skylines are awd
LSkymanl: so you will only race a RWD import
LSkymanl: is what your trying to say?
Speedracersupra: at the races
Speedracersupra: thats how its setup
Speedracersupra: dont ask me
Speedracersupra: it just is
LSkymanl: what track are u gona goto
Speedracersupra: i go to hot import drags
Speedracersupra: long beach
Speedracersupra: but thats in october
Speedracersupra: but im not going to go even
Speedracersupra: cause
Speedracersupra: im going to be in vegas
Speedracersupra: for another supra meet
LSkymanl: theres a track in long beach?

Speedracersupra: i meant
Speedracersupra: pomona
Speedracersupra: lol
Speedracersupra: long beach
Speedracersupra: is where we have
LSkymanl: pomona doesnt take street cars anymore

Speedracersupra: the hot importn nights
Speedracersupra: then
Speedracersupra: ****
Speedracersupra: i dont know
Speedracersupra: palmdale
Speedracersupra: i havent gone
Speedracersupra: in like
Speedracersupra: almost a year
LSkymanl: yeah
LSkymanl: palmdale is slow
Speedracersupra: plusy
Speedracersupra: my white one
Speedracersupra: isnt going to be street
Speedracersupra: car anyways
LSkymanl: you should consider carlsbad, even though its dirty
LSkymanl: or famoso
LSkymanl: hey I can drive my freinds Rx-7
LSkymanl: want to race me in that
Speedracersupra: what color is it?
Speedracersupra: what year?
LSkymanl: Red
Speedracersupra: hmmm
Speedracersupra: twin turbo?
Speedracersupra: u know those cars
Speedracersupra: dont last right?
Speedracersupra: i love that car
Speedracersupra: to death
LSkymanl: not that much, I know it runs close to my stang
Speedracersupra: like the supra
Speedracersupra: but
LSkymanl: its turbo
LSkymanl: I dunno if its TT or single turbo

Speedracersupra: what year is it?
LSkymanl: 95 Im pretty sure

Speedracersupra: its TT
Speedracersupra: how many miles he got on it?
Speedracersupra: and has he replaced the motor yet
LSkymanl: no i think its about 50k miles
Speedracersupra: he will soon
LSkymanl: yeah, u want to run it?
Speedracersupra: maybe one day
LSkymanl: oh nevermind
he says its a single turbo convesrion
LSkymanl: altec
LSkymanl: low impedance injectors
LSkymanl: nos on the intercooler
LSkymanl: its RWD
LSkymanl: and import
Speedracersupra: that beat me dude
Speedracersupra: on my silver one
LSkymanl: it runs low 12's
LSkymanl: cuz I ran w/ it
Speedracersupra: wtf?
Speedracersupra: that slow?
Speedracersupra: ****
LSkymanl: and it pulls me topend
LSkymanl: but I yank it outta the hole bad
Speedracersupra: has nos and only does 12
Speedracersupra: wtf
LSkymanl: bad traction
LSkymanl: when the boost hits it spins
LSkymanl: like crazy
Speedracersupra: that sucks
Speedracersupra: i got traction control
Speedracersupra: but mine does the same
Speedracersupra: at times anyays
LSkymanl: yeah
LSkymanl: so lets run em
Speedracersupra: okay
Speedracersupra: u go that way
Speedracersupra: and ill go that away
LSkymanl: huh?
Speedracersupra: u got that way
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Speedracersupra: and ll go that way
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LSkymanl: thats not a race
LSkymanl: well when u want to, ill race u in the stang
LSkymanl: run it on 87 octane
LSkymanl: all motor
LSkymanl: 302
Speedracersupra: 87?
Speedracersupra: i can only use 92
LSkymanl: yup
Speedracersupra: and i got a 200
Speedracersupra: not very fair
Speedracersupra: let me
LSkymanl: why
Speedracersupra: get a bigger engine
LSkymanl: then Ill run 92 and use the NOS
Speedracersupra: so
Speedracersupra: wait till i get my nos
Speedracersupra: and my turbo set up
LSkymanl: then I need a turbo
Speedracersupra: and we can run
Speedracersupra: no u dont
LSkymanl: and we can run
Speedracersupra: u got
Speedracersupra: 3 more liter
Speedracersupra: than me
Speedracersupra: take those away
LSkymanl: you got way more boost than me
Speedracersupra: ill run stock boost
LSkymanl: how about just run what you bring
LSkymanl: whatever it is
Speedracersupra: okay
Speedracersupra: im taking my moms car
Speedracersupra: deal?
LSkymanl: ok
LSkymanl: what is it
Speedracersupra: its a gs400
LSkymanl: ok
LSkymanl: lexus?
LSkymanl: its faster than ur supra?
Speedracersupra: no
Speedracersupra: its
Speedracersupra: gots more room
Speedracersupra: to ****
Speedracersupra: thats why i like it
Speedracersupra: lol
LSkymanl: haha
LSkymanl: cool
LSkymanl: why would u race in it tho
Speedracersupra: cause
Speedracersupra: it hauls ***
Speedracersupra: its an auto
Speedracersupra: chill
Speedracersupra: chillin
LSkymanl: but its slower
Speedracersupra: on it with 17 in rims
LSkymanl: ?
Speedracersupra: its dope
Speedracersupra: so its not all about racing
Speedracersupra: i dont race all da time
LSkymanl: alright
Speedracersupra: i do like to just drive around
LSkymanl: well if u ever wanna race u know where to find me
LSkymanl: I gtg
LSkymanl: later

Speedracersupra: lol
Speedracersupra: u do that
LSkymanl: hah what?


If you took the time to read all that BS, what a jokin fag!

Skyler

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Skyler, why did you waste your breath with that dude? I have read through some bs before, that guys a fag! So when do you want to hook up and go to the track? I want to run the new engine and see what it can do. Talk to ya later sky.
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