Is This True?

ThreePonyStable · 10-19-2001, 06:38 PM

I've heard reports that well running stock 5.0s should put out 190hp to the wheels. I just wanted to ask you guyd if this is true or if these are false numbers. I have witnessed three Mustangs dyno numbers and they surprised me. The first was a buddy of mine with, Cobra intake, GT-40 heads, B-303 cam, injectors, pulleys, etc. and he pulled 250 at the wheels. Another was a guy at the place where I dynoed my car. His car was running poorly and he dynoed at 195 at the wheels. the final one is my car. My performance mods are, K&N, Pulleys, and a cat back. My car pulled 212 horsepower and 276 foot pounds of torque. I've seen as little as 240 foot pounds and that, in my eyes seems a little low. No offense, but I see Modular cars pulling 50-100 more horsepower, and 0-10 more foot pounds of torque. I myself prefere torque over horsepower, but these cars are running much faster than my 13.7. I love all Mustangs and this is my first post so I'm just learning how you guys are. So far, by what I've read you are a great bunch of guys and I will enjoy posting here. One more thing, What is your take on IMPORTS. I personally don't like them, and my son dreds them. How do you guys feel?

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 10-19-2001, 11:31 PM

Imports SUCK. They are so lame, at least the ones that are mostly around here. i always see all these people at my high school that think dropped hondas and eclipses are cool. I dont understand it. Plus all the ones i have ever seen driving down the streets are sllllloooooowwwww. Anyways. i dont know much about rw power as i havent gone to the dyno yet. Hopefully will with the mustang club next year.

later

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'89 LX Hatchback 5spd, Flowmasters, K+N, B+M Ripper shifter, Ford Racing 10.5" Clutch, Kick a** stereo coming soon!

SYSTEM OF A DOWN rules!!

Mercury · 10-20-2001, 12:14 AM

Greetings ThreePonyStable.

I hope you have fun here. I sure do, but then I'm nuts.

I got three Ponys also. Well one of them might as well be a horse with no legs. (It doesnt run, and has rust problems, no brakes)

Anyway, about the 4.6, the 99 plus 4.6 are some kickin little motors. I've rebuilt pushrod V8's and love them everybit as much. I used to hate the 4.6, always called it turd and made fun of it. THAT IS UNTIL I rode in my friends 99 GT 5spd.

And now that we've modified them, they scoot now.

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64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 valves, 11:1 comp, 1.7:1 rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, modified 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. GT Apperance pkg. And to many others to list

2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle, 40 series Flowmasters, Steeda Tri-Ax. Ordered 4:10's.

64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Future resto.

69fastback · 10-20-2001, 01:27 AM

Most of everyone on this site hates ricers. I think there are only a couple ppl here that like them, but that is becuase they drive them. Glad to see ur son hates them too. It is usallyt he younger crowd that is in to them. But there are lots of younger mustang owener on here. Remember the 5.0 where only rated at 225 hp. The modulars are at 260 hp. Anyway welcome to the site it is alot of fun here.

Stang Runner · 10-20-2001, 08:21 AM

yes 190 at the rear Is right for all stock car right down to the air silencer.

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14.28@103.0 on a G-Tech Engine: Steal Mounts, Under drive pulleys, K&N, Home ported Lower Intake, No power steering, No A/C
Drive Train: 3.55, T-5z,

Real power STUFF I Have and will put some time: Mac cold intake, 70MM TB, Valve covers (COOL ONES)255 Fuel pump NOS Dry 75HP, AFR 165 58cc, GT-40 Intake.
Next to get: Rocker Arms,Cam,Injectors 24, What might I need???See It at www.computerconquest.com

dinomite · 10-20-2001, 09:27 AM

190 sounds about right at the rear wheels, as the power has to go through the transmission and things before it gets to the road. like any car, there will be drivetrain loss, the mustang is no different.

ThreePonyStable · 10-20-2001, 10:56 AM

Thanks for the welcome.
I used to have three Mustangs but now it's down to two. We sold our black '66 coupe and I primarily focus on racing my '91. The other one is the '89 ny son drives to school. Both of us love to modify our 5.0s and we both have our own goals. It's nice to have a 16 year old son who can appreciate a V8, and he also respects it's power, and doesn't trash it.

1BAD89 · 10-20-2001, 12:23 PM

Yeah 190rwhp is almost dead on for a near stocker. That's awesome that you and your son both have mustangs, you ever go line em up? ;o) I think you'll like it here quite well, and welcome to the board!

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-1989 GT, not stock.

-2000 Camaro SS-A4,
13.4's bone stock.

-1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383(500+hp on motor), tubbed, trick flow heads, trick flow pistons, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, and so much more!

ThreePonyStable · 10-21-2001, 08:43 PM

I would never line them up because my sons an AOD and I already have the track times. He would be embarassed badly!!!

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 10-22-2001, 10:23 PM

Yeah I notice that alot of young people are into the rice but luckily I grew up in a V8 family. I am 17 and just bought my car. I am lucky that i have friends at school that like V8's more than imports though there are stupid rice rockets with "picnic tables" on thier trunks LOL. No offense to any automatic drivers but after driving automatic for two years basically stick is so much more fun!!!

Later

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'89 LX Hatchback 5spd, Flowmasters, K+N, B+M Ripper shifter, Ford Racing 10.5" Clutch, Kick a** stereo coming soon!

SYSTEM OF A DOWN rules!!

topless tire fryer · 10-23-2001, 11:36 AM

Welcome aboard threeponystable. It's good to see more of us NE guys on here, I was starting to feel outnumbered

.

We have to remember to teach our kids that power comes from heads, cams, intakes and exhausts, not stickers, spoilers, ground effects and stereos. Most of the cars on this site look dang good and kick a**, and thats a powerfull blend.

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'95 Chrome Yellow GT ragtop, KN filter charger, Dynomax cat back, Accel plugs and wires, Chromed '95 Cobra R's (bought for $19.95, now 2 are warped!).
http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?1883

ThreePonyStable · 10-23-2001, 03:53 PM

I am proud to say that besides rims and tint he hasn't done any cosmetic dress ups (gfx, wing, hood, etc.) He also hasn't put in a huge stereo, and has repeatedly told me how he won't associate himself with his generation, because of their love of imports.

10-23-2001, 05:09 PM

Sounds like you've got one cool kid .....smart too

Welcome - you've found a really awesome site hereto the board. I've always hated rice myself. Where in CT are you, I'm not too far from Danbury.

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'90 LX 5.0;12K original miles;FMS 3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside weld-on subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini 3" turbo hood;A/C delete;gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS custom chip;Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat intake (12.299 @ 113mph w/ a 1.78 60')
....soon to be b

ThreePonyStable · 10-23-2001, 08:59 PM

I live in Berlin, about 5 minutes from the Berlin turnpike. Do you go to the Mustangs Unlimited shows, because I'm usually there, although not sporting my car.

10-19-2001, 06:38 PM	#1
ThreePonyStable Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Kensington, CT Posts: 47	Is This True? I've heard reports that well running stock 5.0s should put out 190hp to the wheels. I just wanted to ask you guyd if this is true or if these are false numbers. I have witnessed three Mustangs dyno numbers and they surprised me. The first was a buddy of mine with, Cobra intake, GT-40 heads, B-303 cam, injectors, pulleys, etc. and he pulled 250 at the wheels. Another was a guy at the place where I dynoed my car. His car was running poorly and he dynoed at 195 at the wheels. the final one is my car. My performance mods are, K&N, Pulleys, and a cat back. My car pulled 212 horsepower and 276 foot pounds of torque. I've seen as little as 240 foot pounds and that, in my eyes seems a little low. No offense, but I see Modular cars pulling 50-100 more horsepower, and 0-10 more foot pounds of torque. I myself prefere torque over horsepower, but these cars are running much faster than my 13.7. I love all Mustangs and this is my first post so I'm just learning how you guys are. So far, by what I've read you are a great bunch of guys and I will enjoy posting here. One more thing, What is your take on IMPORTS. I personally don't like them, and my son dreds them. How do you guys feel?

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10-19-2001, 11:31 PM	#2
MidNiteBlu 5.0 I got something to say Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,557	Imports SUCK. They are so lame, at least the ones that are mostly around here. i always see all these people at my high school that think dropped hondas and eclipses are cool. I dont understand it. Plus all the ones i have ever seen driving down the streets are sllllloooooowwwww. Anyways. i dont know much about rw power as i havent gone to the dyno yet. Hopefully will with the mustang club next year. later ------------------ '89 LX Hatchback 5spd, Flowmasters, K+N, B+M Ripper shifter, Ford Racing 10.5" Clutch, Kick a** stereo coming soon! SYSTEM OF A DOWN rules!!

10-20-2001, 12:14 AM	#3
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	Greetings ThreePonyStable. I hope you have fun here. I sure do, but then I'm nuts. I got three Ponys also. Well one of them might as well be a horse with no legs. (It doesnt run, and has rust problems, no brakes) Anyway, about the 4.6, the 99 plus 4.6 are some kickin little motors. I've rebuilt pushrod V8's and love them everybit as much. I used to hate the 4.6, always called it turd and made fun of it. THAT IS UNTIL I rode in my friends 99 GT 5spd. And now that we've modified them, they scoot now. ------------------ 64 1/2 "D" code Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 valves, 11:1 comp, 1.7:1 rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, modified 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. GT Apperance pkg. And to many others to list 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. BBK Underdrive pulleys, Flotech off-road H pipe. Hurst T-Handle, 40 series Flowmasters, Steeda Tri-Ax. Ordered 4:10's. 64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Future resto.

10-20-2001, 01:27 AM	#4
69fastback IRAQ VET Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: high desert California Posts: 1,480	Most of everyone on this site hates ricers. I think there are only a couple ppl here that like them, but that is becuase they drive them. Glad to see ur son hates them too. It is usallyt he younger crowd that is in to them. But there are lots of younger mustang owener on here. Remember the 5.0 where only rated at 225 hp. The modulars are at 260 hp. Anyway welcome to the site it is alot of fun here.

10-20-2001, 08:21 AM	#5
Stang Runner Registered Member Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Walker, MI, USA Posts: 1,202	yes 190 at the rear Is right for all stock car right down to the air silencer. ------------------ 14.28@103.0 on a G-Tech Engine: Steal Mounts, Under drive pulleys, K&N, Home ported Lower Intake, No power steering, No A/C Drive Train: 3.55, T-5z, Real power STUFF I Have and will put some time: Mac cold intake, 70MM TB, Valve covers (COOL ONES)255 Fuel pump NOS Dry 75HP, AFR 165 58cc, GT-40 Intake. Next to get: Rocker Arms,Cam,Injectors 24, What might I need???See It at www.computerconquest.com

10-20-2001, 09:27 AM	#6
dinomite The Dude Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 1,262	190 sounds about right at the rear wheels, as the power has to go through the transmission and things before it gets to the road. like any car, there will be drivetrain loss, the mustang is no different.

10-20-2001, 10:56 AM	#7
ThreePonyStable Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Kensington, CT Posts: 47	Thanks for the welcome. I used to have three Mustangs but now it's down to two. We sold our black '66 coupe and I primarily focus on racing my '91. The other one is the '89 ny son drives to school. Both of us love to modify our 5.0s and we both have our own goals. It's nice to have a 16 year old son who can appreciate a V8, and he also respects it's power, and doesn't trash it.

10-20-2001, 12:23 PM	#8
1BAD89 Tubbed and Juiced Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Posts: 1,861	Yeah 190rwhp is almost dead on for a near stocker. That's awesome that you and your son both have mustangs, you ever go line em up? ;o) I think you'll like it here quite well, and welcome to the board! ------------------ -1989 GT, not stock. -2000 Camaro SS-A4, 13.4's bone stock. -1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383(500+hp on motor), tubbed, trick flow heads, trick flow pistons, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, and so much more!

10-21-2001, 08:43 PM	#9
ThreePonyStable Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Kensington, CT Posts: 47	I would never line them up because my sons an AOD and I already have the track times. He would be embarassed badly!!!

10-22-2001, 10:23 PM	#10
MidNiteBlu 5.0 I got something to say Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,557	Yeah I notice that alot of young people are into the rice but luckily I grew up in a V8 family. I am 17 and just bought my car. I am lucky that i have friends at school that like V8's more than imports though there are stupid rice rockets with "picnic tables" on thier trunks LOL. No offense to any automatic drivers but after driving automatic for two years basically stick is so much more fun!!! Later ------------------ '89 LX Hatchback 5spd, Flowmasters, K+N, B+M Ripper shifter, Ford Racing 10.5" Clutch, Kick a** stereo coming soon! SYSTEM OF A DOWN rules!!

10-23-2001, 11:36 AM	#11
topless tire fryer All show, some go 4 now! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Franklin, NH Posts: 175	Welcome aboard threeponystable. It's good to see more of us NE guys on here, I was starting to feel outnumbered . We have to remember to teach our kids that power comes from heads, cams, intakes and exhausts, not stickers, spoilers, ground effects and stereos. Most of the cars on this site look dang good and kick a**, and thats a powerfull blend. ------------------ '95 Chrome Yellow GT ragtop, KN filter charger, Dynomax cat back, Accel plugs and wires, Chromed '95 Cobra R's (bought for $19.95, now 2 are warped!). http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/moi-display.cgi?1883

10-23-2001, 03:53 PM	#12
ThreePonyStable Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Kensington, CT Posts: 47	I am proud to say that besides rims and tint he hasn't done any cosmetic dress ups (gfx, wing, hood, etc.) He also hasn't put in a huge stereo, and has repeatedly told me how he won't associate himself with his generation, because of their love of imports.

10-23-2001, 05:09 PM	#13
bada$$lx Guest Posts: n/a	Sounds like you've got one cool kid .....smart too Welcome - you've found a really awesome site hereto the board. I've always hated rice myself. Where in CT are you, I'm not too far from Danbury. ------------------ '90 LX 5.0;12K original miles;FMS 3.55 gears; March pulleys;Edelbrock Performer Heads;BBK 1 5/8" equal length shorties;MSD 6AL ignition w/ blaster 2 coil;FMS E303 cam;Pro-M 75mm MAF;BBK 70mm TB; Eibach drag-launch spring kit;Southside weld-on subs;9" K&N cone filter charger;Hurst shifter;Cervini 3" turbo hood;A/C delete;gutted cats;2 chamber Flomasters;Corbeau racing seats;FMS 30# injectors;JMS custom chip;Holley 190lb fp;TFS track heat intake (12.299 @ 113mph w/ a 1.78 60') ....soon to be b

10-23-2001, 08:59 PM	#14
ThreePonyStable Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Kensington, CT Posts: 47	I live in Berlin, about 5 minutes from the Berlin turnpike. Do you go to the Mustangs Unlimited shows, because I'm usually there, although not sporting my car.