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46stang 11-17-2001 12:18 AM

Turbo probe actually thought he could take me!
 
Too funny. I pulled up to the light next to this riced out Ford probe. Well the lanes merged on the other side of the light but i didn't think it would be a problem! I take off easily, when i hear Whooosh then POP as the pop off valve goes off. I immediately floor it. i pulled away from him and cut in front of him where the lanes merged. we took it up to about 90mph, when he then slowed and turned left onto the freeway. It definately had a bigger turbo because i could hear his turbo and pop off valve over my exhaust and he was a good car and a half behind me! guess he thought he would whip on another one of those 96-98 dog stangs:) seems like i'm allways getting challenged by these little turbo cars lately:) I got to get to the track:)
Leon

84LX89GT 11-17-2001 01:14 AM

Way to put him in his place....at least he had a turbo to go with the stickers (ok, i'm just assuming he has stickers).

Ty'97Cobra 11-17-2001 09:13 AM

At least you got a race. I haven't had a race in months. Guess I'll go to the track tomorrow just to run the mustang some.
Pulled up next to a Vtec acura with a bunch of japanese stickers, tinted windows, and thumpin' music. He took off slower than my wifes old eclipse GS. (1.8 liter's of power)!!!! Whoo hoo.

Oh well. Maybe next time.
L8tr!

91GTturbo 11-17-2001 07:29 PM

I found a Probe website the other day and thought I would check it out. Some guy on there with a turbo probe running 14 lbs of boost was talking about out running a 00' or 01' GT. I can't remember the website (probetalk.com or something). If you need a laugh, check it out, there's some mighty big talkers on there.

Nitrous Al 11-17-2001 09:51 PM

46stang, Where did you get the '99 heads and the '01 Bullit intake? I want to build a 4.6 for my Mustang this winter. Maybe you could answer my question. Are the early '92-'95 4.6 SOHC Mod engines good for a rebuild and performance parts? These engines were available in the Crown Victorias and Lincoln Town Cars. No has answered me in the Modular Motor Forum.

46stang 11-18-2001 08:20 PM

i bought the heads and intake from the local dealer. the early 4.6 motors are identical to the 96-97 stangs. the only diff. is the intake setup on some of them! but if you want to build a motor those will work fine. 99-00 motors are different as they are a windsor based motor, but really not that much different. hope that helps?
Leon

Stang Runner 11-19-2001 09:51 AM

There a so many poeple out there that thingk they have a fast car...... Much of the time they dont know how to dire the car or it is out of tune and they think it runs great. I belive that car might have been stock I know they made some stock with turbos in them then again maybe not. But a 4cl turbo If done and drove right can be faster than many STOCK mustangs. A friend as a nice Conquest with only new EX (NOT A FART TIP) Flows, and a new wastgat and free or cheap mods that I have helped with and it runs high 13 all day.
P.S. MY stang will kill his car :D when back on the road....

1BAD89 11-19-2001 09:57 PM

I've seen a mod'd probe with nitrous, run 13.08's.

withamc 11-19-2001 11:09 PM

At least you're getting some action. Besides some guy in a blue or green GT (hard to tell - it was night) with straight tips sticking through the GT bumper messing around in traffic Saturday night it's been dead around here. If traffic would have opened up it would have been fun.

inferno 11-20-2001 03:13 AM

Re: Turbo probe actually thought he could take me!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by 46stang
........I take off easily, when i hear Whooosh then POP as the pop off valve goes off.........It definately had a bigger turbo because i could hear his turbo and pop off valve over my exhaust.......
For future reference....a pop off valve is a valve that opens at a certain level of boost to prevent an engine from overboosting. A blow off valve(or bypass valve) on the other hand opens when the throttle plate closes preventing the air from stalling the turbo. A blow off valve vents into the atmosphere which creates the noise you heard, while a bypass valve vents back into the intake stream between the maf sensor(on cars so equiped)and the compressor. As far as you hearing the turbo, if he had a hard pipe kit or was running higher than usual boost, you would be able to hear a stock turbo. Not trying to flame, just trying to inform.:D :D

Stang Runner 11-20-2001 08:31 AM

Sound of car
 
Here is a car with no blow off valve on it.
http://63.251.78.219/Sounds/conquest89%20front.wav

46stang 11-20-2001 10:14 AM

thanks for the info! yea it definately vented to atmospere! I've driven many stock turboed probe's and I've never heard one that loud! maybe it was a stock turbo just open exhaust or? he had to be in the low 14's if not high 13's, can a stock turbo do that? probe turbos look kind of small to me but what do i know. It was a fun race in anycase:)
Thanks stangrunner, it seemed louder than that and it definately had the pop sound unlike your file. the sound file sounds pretty cool though thanks!

Stang Runner 11-20-2001 10:27 AM

Stock power Turbos
 
Ok I wil start with my brother is a President of a Conquest/Starion club. I have worked on many of them with Him (me doing most of it) Stock the cars do Mid to high 15's, But with a mods A stock turbo on them can get it into the high 12's SO and those cars have one of the smallest made tubos in them MR2's Have Biger ones all most all are larger SO Yes a Stock tubo probe I think could get there 13's If it is done right BUT it will not be as reliable going that fast.
http://63.251.78.219/Image%20file/Shop/DSC00166.JPG

inferno 11-20-2001 02:17 PM

Stang Runner hit it right on the head.....it is possible, but that is at the edge of the stock turbos reliablity.

69fastback 11-20-2001 09:50 PM

Hey thanks for the info. I will have to remeber all that stuff. I didn't even know probes came with stock with turbos.
There are tons of people that think there car is so damn fast when it is slow as hell. It amazes me the number of 14 and 15 second cars that go around saying they are so damn fast. It makes me laugh. I usally just dont even responed. It is worthless cuz they swear to it.

STEEDAJEFF 11-22-2001 09:52 PM

Nice Kill. Never underestimate a turbo car though.

Unit 5302 11-23-2001 11:45 AM

The Probe GT came with a turbo from the factory 1989-1992.

A Mazda built 2.2L SOHC I-4 was the engine of choice for the GTs. It made 145hp@4300rpm and 190lb/ft@3500rpm. Compression was 7.8:1 indicating a fair amount of boost should be possible.

inferno 11-23-2001 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unit 5302
The Probe GT came with a turbo from the factory 1989-1992.

A Mazda built 2.2L SOHC I-4 was the engine of choice for the GTs. It made 145hp@4300rpm and 190lb/ft@3500rpm. Compression was 7.8:1 indicating a fair amount of boost should be possible.

**Stands up and applauds**

Very good Unit....You now get a cookie!:D :D

JuicedPGT 11-24-2001 10:19 PM

Why do you guys bash the probe??? Im not saying my car is fast as hell or anything, but i have beat modded MGT's many times. I love mustangs, but some of you guys think your car is the fastest car in the world!! And to the guy who started this post...i see your best time is a 13.8 or something. Maybe me and you should race and ill show you that not all probes are slow ;)

Unit 5302 11-24-2001 11:09 PM

No offense, but with all those mods your Probe is unlikely to be much quicker than a high 13sec car, JuicedPGT.

I wasn't bashing Probes at all. They were never made to compete in the true ponycar segment, though. In 1993 when your 2.5L 24v DOHC V-6 rated at 164hp@6000rpm, and 156lb/ft@4000rpms, the Probe traded good midrange and top end punch for a little more top end. The result: Performance pretty much stayed the same, only mods were much harder on the newer cars, and once the market was finally there, the 2.2L's stock turbo made it a better car to mod.

The Probe, bone stock remained a low/mid 15 second car with a good driver. The Mustang is a mid 14 car off the floor with a good driver. While it's not impossible to beat a Mustang GT with a Probe GT, car for car, mod for mod, it's not about to happen. Drivers of course are the deciding factor in some races.

I don't really find much unwarranted disrespect/respect for the Probe. I do find some Probe owners thinking the Mustang GT is a bit of a pushover. With freebies and no other mods, and excellent driver can put a fox body Mustang into the 13's@100mph or so. There are stock engined 1987-1988 SD Mustang's in the 12's. They have a lot more potential than what a lot of poeple give them.

JuicedPGT 11-24-2001 11:26 PM

i understand, i just dont like when some people think that its a v6, it cant beat any v8. Everyone i hang out with has a mustang. The only reason ive been sticking to probes (my 2nd one so far) is because its different. Theres no fast probes around where i live and i want something different.
Your right, my car is a mid/high 13 sec car. But after i finish, it should be quicker.

PS...there are some VERY fast probes/mx6's out there. Check on probetalk.com and you will see. Theres quite a few puting down well over 300hp and 350ft/lbs and the wheels. And for a car our size, that is damn good. Exspecially since there isnt much out there performance wise for the probe. I have basically every bolt-on you can get.

Unit 5302 11-24-2001 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JuicedPGT
...Theres no fast probes around where i live and i want something different...
You just answered your own question. While in some cases they can be fast, what are the chances it IS fast? An LS1 driver isn't normally afraid of an SN95 GT, but there are several out there that will wax an LS1. Just not the norm, and that's why the stereotype on the SN95 is what it is.

inferno 11-24-2001 11:39 PM

JuicedPGT, no one bashed the Probe. They were just surprised that a car that usually doesn't compete did. Most of the people are very respectful of other makes and models(except for Unit:p ). And as far as Probes go, I have seen a lot more faster 1st gens than I have seen 2nd gens....turbo cars are easier to upgrade. I hope you stick around to see that most of the guys(except Unit:p ) are respectful and eager to learn about cars that don't have a horse on the grill.

46stang 11-25-2001 01:33 AM

ok i could have worded the title of the post different! but in all actuallity i was a little surprised by how fast it was! I'm not bashing probes one bit! i can't say i care to much for making a front wheel drive car fast but that's just my oppinion. there are plenty of 4 bangers that can wax my car and it doesn't bother me one bit! I can tell you that the time in my sig. is kind of old and my car is faster than that time represents! If you live near so-cal I will meet you and race you any time! I enjoy racing all types of cars! I just got beat by an audi S4 a few weeks ago! no biggie. win-lose-or draw it's all good fun:)
Leon


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