What's up with all the trash talk? - Page 3

90dpscoupe · 01-01-2001, 11:35 PM

Yep, i remember that, i remeber repying a time a porsch 928 or 944 made me look like i grabbed the emergency brake, he spanked me

but that was then, and i'll.....ehh

no trash talkin on this one

j/k

withamc · 01-02-2001, 12:53 AM

"I think everyone should be able to understand that when racing someone, the fun should not be in winning, the fun should be in racing."??? Wouldn't that be kinda like watching the Super Bowl and they didn't keep score? This politically correct idea that we can all be winners, that losing is harmful to one's self esteem blows my mind. If you want the thrill of winning a race, put some money into your car or work on your launch until you win, but for God's sake don't tell me that beating on my chest and jumping up and down when I found out that all the work I've been putting into my 'stang for the last six months allowed me to beat a blown '95 GT convertible is WRONG!
Now give me my Prozac and lead me to my padded cell, Igor...

racin85 · 01-02-2001, 01:33 AM

The only thing I'm wondering is, people talk trash about cars they beat but they have limits on cars they would run?The way I look at it is a race is a race.I'll run any oncomers,not because I got a big head,I like to race.Look at it like the movie Any Given Sunday, on any day u can win or lose,take the chance to race the guy u know should beat u.One last thing I would like to say is everyone talks trash now and again,u just need to know when the trash needs taken out.

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85 capri,balanced .030 over 79 302,windage tray polished/weight matched rods w/arp bolts.63 289 heads port/polish with FMS windsor springs. Torker 289 intake,514 solidcam,1.6rr.mac long tubes,off-road h,and pro dumps.T-5`4.10's on auburn HD carrier.NOS CHEATER kit,pullies and plenty more.Best NA run
1.683 60ft 7.837 @ 87 12.353 @ 109.05
NOS,11.21@ 116 1.49 60ft

QuantumMotorsports · 01-02-2001, 02:14 AM

That brings up another point. Several people have said that they pick their races carefully and that's why they haven't lost. If you know you're going to win, what fun is that? It's not the gambling that excites you, nor just the fact that you are racing fast cars, it's the plain and simple fact that you won a competition. That is unhealthy. I mean, there are several reasons why I haven't made my car into a 13 second car or a 10 second car, I could have, I definately have had the money at times to do just that. I guess to me, just having a car that is fun to drive and fun to race is enough to keep me happy. And I've got better things to spend my money on. I've also got things that I have to spend money on other than my car. And I'm proud of that. I'm proud that all of my earnings don't go into something that really doesn't mean all that much. Some of my best friends and the people I respect more than anyone drive minivans, nissan sentras, VW bugs. I have a lot of friends that drive mustangs and other ford cars, but who cares. Just because someone drives a ford doesn't mean they are a good person, and I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but I think that's been proven several times in this thread.

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Michael Black
Quantum Motorsports
Norman, Oklahoma

1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, P&Ped heads, 2.25" custom mandrel bent dual pipes, T5 five speed tranny
15.43 @ 91.08mph (not shabby for a 3600 pound car)
60' 2.453 Street tires suck!!!

[This message has been edited by QuantumMotorsports (edited 01-02-2001).]

fordmanck · 01-02-2001, 02:26 AM

Quantum, you have issues. You are basically attacking the integrity of the people that frequent this board. I have a solution for you. If you do not like it, don't come here. It's that simple. We don't care that you have other things to put money into, I do too. I am into computers just as much as my car, I split my extra money on mods for each one.

The fact of the matter is most of us have relatively fast cars, some of us have really fast cars. Hell, when people ask me if my car is fast I say no, its quick. But the fact is I run low 12 second 1/4's, there isn't too much around here that will beat me, yes there are some LS1's and a few Vipers, and I will be the first to tell you I have lost to both. Hell I even lost to a VW rabbit on steroids, off the bottle though. But I will tell you that story anytime.

I know I am rambling here, but you have struck a nerve with me. The basic fact is, you came in here and attacked the whole forum, what did you expect, dinner invitations. I realize you drive a 15 sec car and another thing is one of your posts was made not too far after 12 on New Years which leads me to believe you weren't doing too much and maybe that upset you. Bottom line is if you don't like it here you don't have to be here! Noone is holding a gun to your head, leave now and take what you have left of your dignity. Sorry for the rant guys, but I was over this guy after the his post.

Kevin Price · 01-02-2001, 01:59 PM

As I have always said:

To each his own.

We all do the things we do for different reasons. That is our choice. So why is there a need for criticism here?

You have an appreciation for automobiles as do all of us. What we choose to do with them is our choice. It is a hobby that can be taken to any extent that we care to.

Street racing is done for the fun of it. Above all, that is the main reason why we do it. Coming out with the victory is just icing on the cake and I think we can all agree on that. I would venture to say that most of us turn most of our own wrenches on our cars. With this in mind we have a greater appreciation for our work and our investment. You are happy with your car and it's performance, that is great. However, some of us strive for a little bit more and that's our choice. So what is wrong with this?

Nobody likes a sore loser and what's worse is a sore winner. However, both are out there, that's just a part of it. We just have to blow it off and move on.

I always appreciate the experiences our members share here. 99.9% of them are done so with excellent taste. Seems there is always a "thumbs up" to the winner OR loser. What's more is their willingness to post their losses right along with their victories, again, all in excellent taste. Is this an attribute of a trash talker?? I think not.

I dont see a lot of trash talking here so I am a bit unsure of how you can justify some of your remarks with respect to the members here at Mustang Works. Sure, there are always an exception to every rule but look at the big picture.

Also, most of us DID start out with slow cars, we've seen both sides of the coin which contributes to an even greater appreciation for our cars.

Again, to each his own.

------------------
SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide and a little blue bottle
of giggle gas. My Car

exgmguy · 01-02-2001, 10:36 PM

My only street loss last year was to a modded, nitroused WS6. Followed closely by a few DEAD NUTZ runs with Turbolx.

The track is a different story. I lose at least half the time there. But they trailer their cars there, and are basically total drag cars.

When I lose, I post.

------------------
1988 Mustang GT

12.0 @ 121 on radials
S-trim Vortech sitting in a box!

Lizard King · 01-02-2001, 11:10 PM

Hey Michael,

Where the heck is Quantum Motorsports?

Do you own this shop? Is this a shop?

Do you have a website?

After showing us your woossy side, aren't you scared we won't encourage your business?

We want to win!

I'm not trying to bad mouth, but I have been noticing this Quantum Motorsport signature a lot.

------------------
Lizard King - 00GT

>> 13.698 @ 101.2MPH - BONE STOCK, yes BONE(even air filter) stock.

"I can do anything, I'm the Lizard King." - The Doors

Mercury · 01-03-2001, 12:44 AM

Hmmmm. Quantum, I wonder if you were refering to me when you made the comment about the ones who choose there races.

Its not that I look for easy pray, but if someone pulls up next to me in a ferrari, or say a Z06, I'm not even going to bother. I like good challenges, and I'm up for them. I prefer to race cars that are either just as powerfull as mine, or alittle more powerfull, not 3 notches above me. The reason for this is, if the cars are compriable, it relies more on the drivers skill than the machines power.

Oh racing is fun, its better than sex to me.

I'm just saying I wont pick a fight with a 2000 or 2001 Camaro SS right at the moment because my driving skills with a manual could use some work, and i would need every driving advantage possible to beat a car with that much more power than mine.

Yes racing is fun, but winning the race makes things oh so good. I'm not a sore loser or a bad sport, I just hate losing. Now if I'm in a real good mood, and feeling kinda happy, I might pick a fight with a SS or a Vette, but usually I tend to be more realistic than that.

I guess what I consider fun differs from yours Quantum. I'll race with the Camaro Z28's and FireBird TA's and Formulas, Mustangs, hell even cobras and even the imports. But if you start talking about the high end machines like Vettes, 911's, NSX's and similar cars, it doesnt intrest me. I guess I take my street racing to serouily. Maybe thats it.

------------------
64 1/2 Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, 3:1 rear gear. Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 windsor valves, high side of 10.5:1 comp, 1.7:1 sled rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, autolite 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. And to many others to list

2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd.

64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Auto. project car.

Lizard King · 01-03-2001, 12:55 AM

So Mercury

What would you do if a 2000 Porsches 911 Carrera 4 would pull to you and ask you if your machine moves?

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Lizard King - 00GT

>> 13.698 @ 101.2MPH - BONE STOCK, yes BONE(even air filter) stock.

"I can do anything, I'm the Lizard King." - The Doors

Lizard King · 01-03-2001, 12:57 AM

BTW Mercury,

THE 99-01 GT is direct competition on the 1/4 to any NSX ... stock being stock.

Motortrend says NSX is a 13.8 car and the stang a 14.0.

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Lizard King - 00GT

>> 13.698 @ 101.2MPH - BONE STOCK, yes BONE(even air filter) stock.

"I can do anything, I'm the Lizard King." - The Doors

Mercury · 01-03-2001, 01:08 AM

I didnt know that Lizard King. Learned something new today. If I ever pull up next to one of the 5 or 6 that are in Fayetteville I wont hesitate then.

Oh and if a guy in a Cararea 911 pulls up next to me and asks if my Stang can move. I'll say "but of course it moves, its a car. "

No, Id probably say yeah, but not as fast as theres, and hell maybe I'd show him how it can move.

QuantumMotorsports · 01-03-2001, 06:27 PM

Lizard Queen, oops, King,

I am an 18 year old highschool student in Norman Oklahoma. I do any and all kinds of automotive repairs and modifications in my garage for fun and extra money. I actually have quite a bit of business for a one person shop. Enough to be busy three weeks out of the month. I don't think I have to worry about you encouraging my business. I will do any mod that someone pays me to do on their car, but I choose not to do certain mods to my car for many reasons. I have cars that I have worked on beat me all the time and cars that I haven't beat me all the time. I also win against cars I have and haven't worked on. I think if there is any one quality that people should strive to have it is versatility. The ability to do many things and understand many things. I can completely understand wanting to win, and I can understand wanting to talk about winning. What I wanted to know from posting this is if anyone could understand being okay with losing and wanting to talk about losing as much as winning. Like I've said time and time again, losing and telling people about it shows character. So I just want to ask you guys who don't get that, did your parents hug your big brother more than you when you were little or something? Anyone who has taken any psychology classes (you would have had to actually gone to highschool) would know that a lot of people who cannot live without competing and winning have inferiority complexes. Not trying to say anything about any of you stangers, because you're my friends.

------------------
Michael Black
Quantum Motorsports
Norman, Oklahoma

1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, P&Ped heads, 2.25" custom mandrel bent dual pipes, T5 five speed tranny
15.43 @ 91.08mph (not shabby for a 3600 pound car)
60' 2.453 Street tires suck!!!

cleanLX · 01-03-2001, 06:33 PM

oh boy...

------------------
'92 emerald coupe, no air silencer, bored stock MAF to 60mm, sub-frames welded, strut tower brace, 180 thermo, 16 deg's, K'n'N panel, bosh platniums, u.d. pullies, off road h-pipe, hurst "stir stick", fms 3.73's. otherwise, factory original.
best 1/4 = 13.264@ 100.89mph with a 1.824 60 ft. on turbines with 235/60-R15 BFG DR's

Fox Body · 01-03-2001, 07:02 PM

Hey Lizard King, be careful not to lead young Mercury astray. '97 issue of Motortrend reads:

'96 NSX-T = 14.3/99.3
'97 NSX-T = 13.3/106.7

'95 Cobra R = 13.8/102.0
'96 Cobra = 14.0/101.7

DISCLAIMER: Motortrend drove it, not me

-------------------------------
'79 Mustang Coup
4" Cowl
Weld wheels (15x6;15x8)
Stock 5.8L
C4 w/ shift kit
1.5" MAC full length headers
Holley 750 CFM
Edelbrock intake
2.5" Off road H-pipe
8.8" Rear end w/ 2.73:1 gears (sucks!)
Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II
Sucky Purolator air filter that's choking my car.

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01-01-2001, 11:35 PM	#31 (permalink)
90dpscoupe Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: sanantonio, Tx, usa Posts: 1,407	Yep, i remember that, i remeber repying a time a porsch 928 or 944 made me look like i grabbed the emergency brake, he spanked me but that was then, and i'll.....ehh no trash talkin on this one j/k

01-02-2001, 12:53 AM	#32 (permalink)
withamc Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA Posts: 396	"I think everyone should be able to understand that when racing someone, the fun should not be in winning, the fun should be in racing."??? Wouldn't that be kinda like watching the Super Bowl and they didn't keep score? This politically correct idea that we can all be winners, that losing is harmful to one's self esteem blows my mind. If you want the thrill of winning a race, put some money into your car or work on your launch until you win, but for God's sake don't tell me that beating on my chest and jumping up and down when I found out that all the work I've been putting into my 'stang for the last six months allowed me to beat a blown '95 GT convertible is WRONG! Now give me my Prozac and lead me to my padded cell, Igor...

01-02-2001, 01:33 AM	#33 (permalink)
racin85 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: libertycenter,oh,us Posts: 73	The only thing I'm wondering is, people talk trash about cars they beat but they have limits on cars they would run?The way I look at it is a race is a race.I'll run any oncomers,not because I got a big head,I like to race.Look at it like the movie Any Given Sunday, on any day u can win or lose,take the chance to race the guy u know should beat u.One last thing I would like to say is everyone talks trash now and again,u just need to know when the trash needs taken out. ------------------ 85 capri,balanced .030 over 79 302,windage tray polished/weight matched rods w/arp bolts.63 289 heads port/polish with FMS windsor springs. Torker 289 intake,514 solidcam,1.6rr.mac long tubes,off-road h,and pro dumps.T-5`4.10's on auburn HD carrier.NOS CHEATER kit,pullies and plenty more.Best NA run 1.683 60ft 7.837 @ 87 12.353 @ 109.05 NOS,11.21@ 116 1.49 60ft

01-02-2001, 02:14 AM	#34 (permalink)
QuantumMotorsports Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Norman, Oklahoma, USA Posts: 597	That brings up another point. Several people have said that they pick their races carefully and that's why they haven't lost. If you know you're going to win, what fun is that? It's not the gambling that excites you, nor just the fact that you are racing fast cars, it's the plain and simple fact that you won a competition. That is unhealthy. I mean, there are several reasons why I haven't made my car into a 13 second car or a 10 second car, I could have, I definately have had the money at times to do just that. I guess to me, just having a car that is fun to drive and fun to race is enough to keep me happy. And I've got better things to spend my money on. I've also got things that I have to spend money on other than my car. And I'm proud of that. I'm proud that all of my earnings don't go into something that really doesn't mean all that much. Some of my best friends and the people I respect more than anyone drive minivans, nissan sentras, VW bugs. I have a lot of friends that drive mustangs and other ford cars, but who cares. Just because someone drives a ford doesn't mean they are a good person, and I'm not trying to piss anyone off, but I think that's been proven several times in this thread. ------------------ Michael Black Quantum Motorsports Norman, Oklahoma 1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, P&Ped heads, 2.25" custom mandrel bent dual pipes, T5 five speed tranny 15.43 @ 91.08mph (not shabby for a 3600 pound car) 60' 2.453 Street tires suck!!! [This message has been edited by QuantumMotorsports (edited 01-02-2001).]

01-02-2001, 02:26 AM	#35 (permalink)
fordmanck Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Seminole, FL Posts: 193	Quantum, you have issues. You are basically attacking the integrity of the people that frequent this board. I have a solution for you. If you do not like it, don't come here. It's that simple. We don't care that you have other things to put money into, I do too. I am into computers just as much as my car, I split my extra money on mods for each one. The fact of the matter is most of us have relatively fast cars, some of us have really fast cars. Hell, when people ask me if my car is fast I say no, its quick. But the fact is I run low 12 second 1/4's, there isn't too much around here that will beat me, yes there are some LS1's and a few Vipers, and I will be the first to tell you I have lost to both. Hell I even lost to a VW rabbit on steroids, off the bottle though. But I will tell you that story anytime. I know I am rambling here, but you have struck a nerve with me. The basic fact is, you came in here and attacked the whole forum, what did you expect, dinner invitations. I realize you drive a 15 sec car and another thing is one of your posts was made not too far after 12 on New Years which leads me to believe you weren't doing too much and maybe that upset you. Bottom line is if you don't like it here you don't have to be here! Noone is holding a gun to your head, leave now and take what you have left of your dignity. Sorry for the rant guys, but I was over this guy after the his post.

01-02-2001, 01:59 PM	#36 (permalink)
Kevin Price Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Oxford, KS Posts: 935	As I have always said: To each his own. We all do the things we do for different reasons. That is our choice. So why is there a need for criticism here? You have an appreciation for automobiles as do all of us. What we choose to do with them is our choice. It is a hobby that can be taken to any extent that we care to. Street racing is done for the fun of it. Above all, that is the main reason why we do it. Coming out with the victory is just icing on the cake and I think we can all agree on that. I would venture to say that most of us turn most of our own wrenches on our cars. With this in mind we have a greater appreciation for our work and our investment. You are happy with your car and it's performance, that is great. However, some of us strive for a little bit more and that's our choice. So what is wrong with this? Nobody likes a sore loser and what's worse is a sore winner. However, both are out there, that's just a part of it. We just have to blow it off and move on. I always appreciate the experiences our members share here. 99.9% of them are done so with excellent taste. Seems there is always a "thumbs up" to the winner OR loser. What's more is their willingness to post their losses right along with their victories, again, all in excellent taste. Is this an attribute of a trash talker?? I think not. I dont see a lot of trash talking here so I am a bit unsure of how you can justify some of your remarks with respect to the members here at Mustang Works. Sure, there are always an exception to every rule but look at the big picture. Also, most of us DID start out with slow cars, we've seen both sides of the coin which contributes to an even greater appreciation for our cars. Again, to each his own. ------------------ SVO siamesed 351 stroked to 417ci,Yates heads, solid roller,Trans King glide and a little blue bottle of giggle gas. My Car

01-02-2001, 10:36 PM	#37 (permalink)
exgmguy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Utica, Michigan Posts: 2,627	My only street loss last year was to a modded, nitroused WS6. Followed closely by a few DEAD NUTZ runs with Turbolx. The track is a different story. I lose at least half the time there. But they trailer their cars there, and are basically total drag cars. When I lose, I post. ------------------ 1988 Mustang GT 12.0 @ 121 on radials S-trim Vortech sitting in a box!

01-02-2001, 11:10 PM	#38 (permalink)
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	Hey Michael, Where the heck is Quantum Motorsports? Do you own this shop? Is this a shop? Do you have a website? After showing us your woossy side, aren't you scared we won't encourage your business? We want to win! I'm not trying to bad mouth, but I have been noticing this Quantum Motorsport signature a lot. ------------------ Lizard King - 00GT >> 13.698 @ 101.2MPH - BONE STOCK, yes BONE(even air filter) stock. "I can do anything, I'm the Lizard King." - The Doors

01-03-2001, 12:44 AM	#39 (permalink)
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	Hmmmm. Quantum, I wonder if you were refering to me when you made the comment about the ones who choose there races. Its not that I look for easy pray, but if someone pulls up next to me in a ferrari, or say a Z06, I'm not even going to bother. I like good challenges, and I'm up for them. I prefer to race cars that are either just as powerfull as mine, or alittle more powerfull, not 3 notches above me. The reason for this is, if the cars are compriable, it relies more on the drivers skill than the machines power. Oh racing is fun, its better than sex to me. I'm just saying I wont pick a fight with a 2000 or 2001 Camaro SS right at the moment because my driving skills with a manual could use some work, and i would need every driving advantage possible to beat a car with that much more power than mine. Yes racing is fun, but winning the race makes things oh so good. I'm not a sore loser or a bad sport, I just hate losing. Now if I'm in a real good mood, and feeling kinda happy, I might pick a fight with a SS or a Vette, but usually I tend to be more realistic than that. I guess what I consider fun differs from yours Quantum. I'll race with the Camaro Z28's and FireBird TA's and Formulas, Mustangs, hell even cobras and even the imports. But if you start talking about the high end machines like Vettes, 911's, NSX's and similar cars, it doesnt intrest me. I guess I take my street racing to serouily. Maybe thats it. ------------------ 64 1/2 Red Mustang Coupe. 289, C4, 3:1 rear gear. Mallory duel point. Ported & Polished 65 heads shaved .01 with 351 windsor valves, high side of 10.5:1 comp, 1.7:1 sled rockers, blue wolverine lumpy cam, autolite 4100 Hipo 4 barrel. And to many others to list 2000 Perf Red Mustang GT. 5spd. 64 1/2 red 6cyl coupe. Auto. project car.

01-03-2001, 12:55 AM	#40 (permalink)
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	So Mercury What would you do if a 2000 Porsches 911 Carrera 4 would pull to you and ask you if your machine moves? ------------------ Lizard King - 00GT >> 13.698 @ 101.2MPH - BONE STOCK, yes BONE(even air filter) stock. "I can do anything, I'm the Lizard King." - The Doors

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01-03-2001, 12:57 AM	#41 (permalink)
Lizard King midnightruns.com Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 584	BTW Mercury, THE 99-01 GT is direct competition on the 1/4 to any NSX ... stock being stock. Motortrend says NSX is a 13.8 car and the stang a 14.0. ------------------ Lizard King - 00GT >> 13.698 @ 101.2MPH - BONE STOCK, yes BONE(even air filter) stock. "I can do anything, I'm the Lizard King." - The Doors

01-03-2001, 01:08 AM	#42 (permalink)
Mercury The Redneck James Bond Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Fayetteville NC Posts: 1,707	I didnt know that Lizard King. Learned something new today. If I ever pull up next to one of the 5 or 6 that are in Fayetteville I wont hesitate then. Oh and if a guy in a Cararea 911 pulls up next to me and asks if my Stang can move. I'll say "but of course it moves, its a car. " No, Id probably say yeah, but not as fast as theres, and hell maybe I'd show him how it can move.

01-03-2001, 06:27 PM	#43 (permalink)
QuantumMotorsports Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Norman, Oklahoma, USA Posts: 597	Lizard Queen, oops, King, I am an 18 year old highschool student in Norman Oklahoma. I do any and all kinds of automotive repairs and modifications in my garage for fun and extra money. I actually have quite a bit of business for a one person shop. Enough to be busy three weeks out of the month. I don't think I have to worry about you encouraging my business. I will do any mod that someone pays me to do on their car, but I choose not to do certain mods to my car for many reasons. I have cars that I have worked on beat me all the time and cars that I haven't beat me all the time. I also win against cars I have and haven't worked on. I think if there is any one quality that people should strive to have it is versatility. The ability to do many things and understand many things. I can completely understand wanting to win, and I can understand wanting to talk about winning. What I wanted to know from posting this is if anyone could understand being okay with losing and wanting to talk about losing as much as winning. Like I've said time and time again, losing and telling people about it shows character. So I just want to ask you guys who don't get that, did your parents hug your big brother more than you when you were little or something? Anyone who has taken any psychology classes (you would have had to actually gone to highschool) would know that a lot of people who cannot live without competing and winning have inferiority complexes. Not trying to say anything about any of you stangers, because you're my friends. ------------------ Michael Black Quantum Motorsports Norman, Oklahoma 1988 Merc Cougar 5.0 HO, P&Ped heads, 2.25" custom mandrel bent dual pipes, T5 five speed tranny 15.43 @ 91.08mph (not shabby for a 3600 pound car) 60' 2.453 Street tires suck!!!

01-03-2001, 06:33 PM	#44 (permalink)
cleanLX Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Phoenix Az. by way of fredericton, NB Canada Posts: 73	oh boy... ------------------ '92 emerald coupe, no air silencer, bored stock MAF to 60mm, sub-frames welded, strut tower brace, 180 thermo, 16 deg's, K'n'N panel, bosh platniums, u.d. pullies, off road h-pipe, hurst "stir stick", fms 3.73's. otherwise, factory original. best 1/4 = 13.264@ 100.89mph with a 1.824 60 ft. on turbines with 235/60-R15 BFG DR's

01-03-2001, 07:02 PM	#45 (permalink)
Fox Body Mustang Maniac Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: GA, U.S.A Posts: 2,266	Hey Lizard King, be careful not to lead young Mercury astray. '97 issue of Motortrend reads: '96 NSX-T = 14.3/99.3 '97 NSX-T = 13.3/106.7 '95 Cobra R = 13.8/102.0 '96 Cobra = 14.0/101.7 DISCLAIMER: Motortrend drove it, not me ------------------------------- '79 Mustang Coup 4" Cowl Weld wheels (15x6;15x8) Stock 5.8L C4 w/ shift kit 1.5" MAC full length headers Holley 750 CFM Edelbrock intake 2.5" Off road H-pipe 8.8" Rear end w/ 2.73:1 gears (sucks!) Front: 225/60/15 Rear: 255/60/15 Eagle GT II Sucky Purolator air filter that's choking my car.