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gtjeremy 01-31-2004 06:28 AM

whooped a 350z
 
come off an off ramp onto a two way, at the light is a 300Z and a 94 mustang, both take off at the light. I pass the 94 mustang gt and hit the nissan at the light. He revs, I follow. light goes green, i start swerving and can't grip. when I do Iam at least five to seven cars ahead at 70 mph.
94 wants to run me and i just say to cut it bc he knew that i would roast him after seeing that. all in all a good kill.

Dark_5.0 01-31-2004 02:04 PM

What year is your car and what mods do you have.

350Z's are turds. I was dissapointed with there performance.

gtjeremy 01-31-2004 09:16 PM

00 gt, flowmasters, 12" kn ford racing clutch, alum driveshaft, underdrive pulleys, off road h. which z's are fast? i think this one was an older one with a new paint job?

BigCountryGT 01-31-2004 09:58 PM

Dude I raced a 300z (not the new ones) at our local 1/8 track in my GMC. The first race he won. I had Tireburner and one of his side kicks in the extended cab. After I dropped off the extra weight I took the next three. It was killing him because he was running a faster time but I was killing him at the light. I think he ran a 10:5 to my 10:7

stanger9219 02-02-2004 01:05 AM

There's a huge difference between a twin turbo 300zx and just the straight six. I whooped this kid in high school who just had the six cylinder...but last year i met this guy with the turbos...raced him once and he beat the crap outta me. The new 350zx's are a lot slower than the older twin turbo 300zx's also.

MidNiteBlu 5.0 02-02-2004 01:16 AM

there are a few 350Z's out there running 13.9's stock, but it doesnt seem like there are many of them.

Dark_5.0 02-02-2004 10:10 AM

My brother has an 86' 300zx turbo that can put a pretty good whoopin on my car.

Ackbar00 02-02-2004 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gtjeremy
00 gt, flowmasters, 12" kn ford racing clutch, alum driveshaft, underdrive pulleys, off road h-pipe.
OK, Cut and paste this in your signature.



The new Z are ball lickers, My SHO sends them back to Nissan begging for a Twin Turbo Setup....

91LX2Bfast 02-02-2004 06:37 PM

gtjeremy - what did you race? A 300z or a 350z?

Ackbar00: "The new Z are ball lickers, My SHO sends them back to Nissan begging for a Twin Turbo Setup...."
I don't know about that one. They are a very low 14 sec car with any kind of decent driver, and as MidNiteBlu 5.0 said, there are some people getting 13's out of them. Seems right on par with '99+ GT's. I hardly call that a "ball licker." And c'mon, they are not made to be a muscle car. They actually handle and brake well too. I've driven several 350z's and would say besides some cheapish feeling interior piece's, they are a wonderful sports car.

Ackbar00 02-03-2004 01:04 PM

Bagh!!, They still lick balls!!:D

But you are right, most of them (Import Drivers) in my area cant drive for shhit. Hell, therE was this guy who brought out a Viper with a Kenne-Bell on it and it dynoed like 640. He only went like low 12's @124:rolleyes:

blue00gt 02-03-2004 03:11 PM

I wouldn't say that the new 350Zs are any slower than the previous gen 300ZX twin-turbo, either.

mustang driver 2 02-04-2004 11:47 AM

no b.s
 
i dont know what kind of track your running on, i had a 92 gt with a lot more mods than yours and my best time was 12.97 with et streets on.. you also got weeker pistons and no suspension work done so there is know way your under 13 flat...........mine had 46,000 original miles ,msd ignition, afr 205 heads,holly systemx upper /lower intake,70mm mass air,cold air kit,f303 cam,roller rockers,double roller timing chain,24lb injectors,bassini shorty headers,h-pipe,2.5 inch full exhaust w/out cats,upper/lower control arms,sub-frame connectors,koni reds shocks/struts,eibach 2 inch lowering springs, pro 5.0 short shifter, king cobra clutch,17x9 cobra r,3.73 gears with strange 28 spline axles......it goes on and on.... so ,no bullsh**.......with 125 shot nitrous, i ran 11.12@126........ look at pictures of my cars in gallery.....this is the blue one, the white one will run 10's .......

Ackbar00 02-04-2004 12:02 PM

Re: no b.s
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mustang driver 2
i dont know what kind of track your running on, i had a 92 gt with a lot more mods than yours and my best time was 12.97 with et streets on..
Who you talking about?:confused:

FordFastGirl5.0 02-04-2004 04:39 PM

You tell'em mustang driver 2! I think he was trying to impress someone!

Dark_5.0 02-04-2004 05:00 PM

350Z's are ball lickers.

Granted I am at 3000ft but I see them run high 14's all the time.

On another note the 99+ GT's are ball lickers too 14.4-14.6 most of the time.

mustang driver 2- Surely you didnt have AFR 205's on a 302 :rolleyes:

Not to mention your suspension mods were hurting and not helping you. (i.e. two inch drop)

A 12.40 is very believable coming from a car with aluminum heads, gears and slicks.

Let me guess I wont run mid 12's either.

mustang driver 2 02-04-2004 06:14 PM

dark 5.0
 
dude ,incase you don't know,afr heads are aluminum. and yes ,i am running them on a 46,000 mile 302 ,stock short block.....how, cause i can.....................................my secret.......second, yes the springs hurt me in the quarter cause of the difference in weight transfer... but that is why it will handle like a vette on the highway.....and no, you wont run any kind of 12:00 in any stang with stock 302 short block ,aluminun heads,gears,slicks and exhaust.... also let me know where you guys race that way i can race there and probably run 9'sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss... peace

Ackbar00 02-04-2004 06:25 PM

Once more, who are you talking about:confused:

mustang driver 2 02-04-2004 06:31 PM

I WAS ORIGINALLY TALKING TO ACKBAR00
 
ORIGINALLY BUT DARK 5.0 is trying to talk sh**...hope not though

Ackbar00 02-04-2004 06:37 PM

Calling my times BS eh? Thats fine, bring your corner carver over and lets see if I am lying;)

Then again, I would have to pull the turbo off at this point just to please your dumb asss.:rolleyes:

And like Dark said, AFR 205's on a 302, great idea:rolleyes:

Ackbar00 02-04-2004 06:40 PM

Oh yeah, BTW, that was on the stock cam;) :eek: :D :cool:

Ackbar00 02-04-2004 06:50 PM

Here, does this make you fell better? Prolly make you fell worse, because I had less parts than you and still ran a better time. It is called COMBONATION. No one calls Ackbar a lier:cool:

http://www.freepixhosting.com/upload...6 Timeslip.JPG

mustang driver 2 02-04-2004 07:12 PM

unexperienced stang drivers
 
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well, both of you obviously dont know much about afr heads...they are the best and if you know what you are doing, you can get the most from them......that is no b-s...no you could leave the turbo on cause from what you say,you probably wont get under 11.50 in the quarter.... i run that without supercharger or turbo. do you go to the world ford challenge the second week in may... granite city, il...if so ,lets race ..i still want to race where you guys do,i want to say my car can run 9ssssssssss with 125 shot of nitrous...but i have to give credit, you still drive a stang...



that picture is where i race my car... i am legit...are you

mustang driver 2 02-04-2004 07:19 PM

time silp
 
ya, you might have a time slip but you probably got it from someone that has strickly a straight line race car....tell you what, lets race in the quarter (you and your turbo) for a grand, then we will race from 0 to 160 on highway....be ready to have your *** handed to you....afterall, i am running 205's on my stock 302 short block and 125 shot nitrous.....AND , it will run all day, everyday, lasting 100,000............peace

tireburner163 02-04-2004 07:42 PM

mustang driver 2 you obviously don't know jack. Your ideas and claims are rediculous at best.

You've got 205's on a 302 with mods as mild as yours:rolleyes: Reeeeeeeeeeeeeal smart.

Yea you've got flow.....but no velocity. You'd probably pick up a good bit of time with a set of 185's. Those heads are way WAY over kill. A friend of mine has a 349 with a roots blower pushing 16 pounds of boost and a 125 shot. It's a low 9 second / high 8 second car and he's only running AFR 205's.

I'll probably run high 12's with my iron headed car (I'll let you know Sat). A member here, FiveOhPatrol, is running 12.03's with a GT-40P iron headed 347. He ran high 12's the same motor, but with the stock 302 short-block

Your combo with a set reasonably sized heads and some slicks should run low low 12's.


-Josh, aka the tireburner

mustang driver 2 02-04-2004 07:55 PM

afr 205
 
too tireburner, all of you are talking like you know from exp...if so , how would i get those heads to work on stock 302 short block...(best performance) it isn't overkill, it is a perfect set-up. ..you shouldn't run them if you are unexp... also, my mods are perfectly fine. i didn't post all of them... also, unless you can run low 11's ,high 10's , dont dis my ****!!!!!!!!!!!!11 it is a true import eater (even without nitrous)...............

Ackbar00 02-04-2004 08:38 PM

no one dissing your shhit, 205 are overkill on your combo. Period. I bet youd pick up with 185. But what would I know about mustang performance:rolleyes:

Yeah, I found someones time ticket, Glad I picked someone with a 12.46 and not a 12.31:rolleyes:

Yep, my turbo car is now not streetable. No longer able to drive it everyday. Damn, wish I would have bought NOS:mad:

And your timeslip is where????? Oh yeah 12.97, so where is this low 11's shhit coming from??:confused:

"....tell you what, lets race in the quarter (you and your turbo) for a grand, then we will race from 0 to 160 on highway....be ready to have your *** handed to you" - Funny, a guy in a Civic said that to me the other day.....

One + note, your car does look nice, but tireburner163 said it the best

Ackbar00 02-04-2004 08:46 PM

I still cant get over you dont belive my times. Guess you have never heard of "Factory Stock". They have less parts than the both of us combined and would clean our clocks at the strip. Well, mabey not now:D

So what is next, you gonna call my beaters times BS too?

mustang driver 2 02-04-2004 09:28 PM

sure....................
 
i am not going to sit here and argue about the afr issue. i have the flow and velocity...by the way ,their not stock..they are ported and i had my stock pistons fly cut (while still on the car) cause of the roller rockers... the factory pistons wouldn't last 15 minutes with 125 shot and the 205'sssssssssss the low 11.ss sh** comes from my stang with 125 shot nitrous .....


and don't put me in the same category as that import......i got a grand says you WILL lose ... my 3rd gear pulls like your second....... by the way , i am running stock t-5 that needs 2nd and 3rd gear syncro's... and still beat vipers, vetts, and alot of imports........

Ackbar00 02-04-2004 11:01 PM

Where is the damned BS flag icon......

Saint 02-04-2004 11:59 PM

Re: sure....................
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mustang driver 2
i am not going to sit here and argue about the afr issue. i have the flow and velocity...by the way ,their not stock..they are ported and i had my stock pistons fly cut (while still on the car) cause of the roller rockers... the factory pistons wouldn't last 15 minutes with 125 shot and the 205'sssssssssss the low 11.ss sh** comes from my stang with 125 shot nitrous .....


and don't put me in the same category as that import......i got a grand says you WILL lose ... my 3rd gear pulls like your second....... by the way , i am running stock t-5 that needs 2nd and 3rd gear syncro's... and still beat vipers, vetts, and alot of imports........

you seem to know your ****, let me ask your opinion, i have a 90 5.0 that is mostly stock other than a MAC cai, underdrive pullies, and a short shifter, is a B303 cam a good idea to put on? or what about an Ford Motorsports X cam

flow350 02-05-2004 01:40 AM

Quote:

i am not going to sit here and argue about the afr issue. i have the flow and velocity...by the way ,their not stock..they are ported and i had my stock pistons fly cut (while still on the car) cause of the roller rockers... the factory pistons wouldn't last 15 minutes with 125 shot and the 205'sssssssssss the low 11.ss sh** comes from my stang with 125 shot nitrous .....
What the ****. . . .

I would love for you to answer a few questions for me. . .

Your pistons are not "stock" because you had them fly cut, haha. How does this make them stand up the "extreme" conditions that a 125 shot puts on your engine? You must be in ricer mentality, if so you are right, a 125 on a civic would do some damage. Seems to me that a fly cut stock piston is the same material that a non-cut stock piston is made of. That reminds me, I better go quick and warn my friend that has a stock short block out a 93 ("crappy" cast pistons) that he cant run the 10.3X at 13X.XX mph on those pistons or they will burn up!

On another note, how do ported heads help to improve your velocity problem???

Someone please tell me if I am wrong about these things

MidNiteBlu 5.0 02-05-2004 02:50 AM

blah im sure he just found that picture on some website and is using it as himself.

Everyone who knows anything will know that ported 205's are EXTREME overkill on a stock shortblock 302.

Ackbar00 02-05-2004 07:39 AM

Re: Re: sure....................
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Saint
you seem to know your ****, let me ask your opinion, i have a 90 5.0 that is mostly stock other than a MAC cai, underdrive pullies, and a short shifter, is a B303 cam a good idea to put on? or what about an Ford Motorsports X cam
Saint, you rule!!!:cool:

Dark_5.0 02-05-2004 08:50 AM

I think this is a current member playing tricks on us cause I refuse to believe that anyone with a stang could be this wrong.:D

gtjeremy 02-05-2004 09:03 AM

i don't know anything about the late nissan models, so i don't know if it was a 300 or 350z. it had to be a straight sixer though bc i would have heard the turbo valves.

91LX2Bfast 02-05-2004 10:15 AM

gtjeremy - Your thread got hijacked....LOL.
As far as the Z's, the 300Z and 350Z's had V6's. The former had a DOHC 3.0L available in 222hp N/A and 300hp Turbo froms. The latter has a DOHC 3.5L 287HP and 274 ft#'s.

As far as mustang driver 2:
I agree with Dark's comment of: "I think this is a current member playing tricks on us cause I refuse to believe that anyone with a stang could be this wrong."

mustang driver 2 02-05-2004 10:40 AM

wooooooooooooooooooo
 
flo350 = i am not saying that my pistons are not stock since they have been fly cut, all i am saying is that for my 205's to work PROPERLY, i had to fly cut them cause of the big valves and roller rockers...if you were running these heads with 125 shot without doing piston work, the car would probably run as slow as yours and wouldn't last long cause you would burn a hole in the top of the PISTONS.... so dont tell me any bs about my sh**....... another thing, i didn't say ported heads increases or decreases velocity................. all of my mods are fine with the setup i am running.... come and get some.....



to ACKBAR00 = i b303 cam is ok but if i were you , i would put a e303 cam in.. the x cam is alittle to extreme unless you are planning on nitrous or supercharger.....i am running a f303 and it works perfectly....



to dark 5.0 = all i have to say is (bring your green and i'll dust your (MEAN MACHINE)....

mustang driver 2 02-05-2004 10:52 AM

302 short block
 
also, i left my short block stock to show everyone with 306's and 331's that you dont need to bore or stroke it to run with the big dogs..and i just like rubbing it in when i beat them....yes, i have beat every 306 that i have raced...bigger is not necessarily better.the one thing that matters the most are the heads....everything after that is built around them.......... even w/out the bottle, i run 12's and could drive my car from ny to ca.. all you straight line racers, i will be thinking about you at the end of summer when you have to rebuild your sh** and on those 100 degree days when i pass you going 140 mph with the a/c on.......

302 LX Eric 02-05-2004 11:46 AM

Re: 302 short block
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mustang driver 2
....yes, i have beat every 306 that i have raced...bigger is not necessarily better.
Wow man, I'm impressed! You're giving up 4 cubes to a 306 and you're still beating them! Sweet!

And 140 mph with the A/C too?!?! That's what I call impressive. You should race in the Silver State Classic with that beast.


Ok, now who's pulling our leg with this thread? Is it you, tireburner? or is it Dark_5.0 again? Come on, the gig is up. :D

Dark_5.0 02-05-2004 11:57 AM

I swear it isnt me this time. I would not degrade mustangs this way.:D

gtjeremy 02-05-2004 12:02 PM

it had to be the dohc version otherwise it wouldn't have pulled on me at all- a 227hp would have been a standstill and wouldn't have chirped through second like this one did.

tireburner163 02-05-2004 12:03 PM

LMAO

mustang driver 2, your a fool. I'll just let you live in your own little world.

I'll post up my slips sat of my car running high 12's with WAY less mods than you.

LMAO, moron


-Josh, aka the tireburner

flow350 02-05-2004 12:28 PM

mustang driver 2, maybe one day you will look back on this thread and realize how little you know, good luck buddy.

You are right about one thing, you will be me, my car is a turd. At least when I get the money to make it fast I wont make the mistakes you have made.

Saint 02-05-2004 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gtjeremy
it had to be the dohc version otherwise it wouldn't have pulled on me at all- a 227hp would have been a standstill and wouldn't have chirped through second like this one did.
they are all DOHC, the new ones are much more rounded with long pointed headlights and taillights and have a 3.5 liter engine and the previous ones are more like a wedge shape and come with either a 3.0l non-turbo or a 3.0l turbo motor, but all of them are DOHC

350Z current model with the 3.5l NA motors
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...478_4_full.jpg


300ZX previous model that could come in twin turbo form, this one is a TT car
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...40_99_full.jpg

Ackbar00 02-05-2004 03:17 PM

Re: wooooooooooooooooooo
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mustang driver 2

to ACKBAR00 = i b303 cam is ok but if i were you , i would put a e303 cam in.. the x cam is alittle to extreme unless you are planning on nitrous or supercharger.....i am running a f303 and it works perfectly....

Bagh, cams are for pussies:D I plan on 415-445 to the wheels on a stock cam:cool:

Stang_Crazy 02-05-2004 05:39 PM

Mustang driver 2- Can you please brief us on your fuel system setup? I'm curious to know what you're running with 205's and a 125 shot.

Let me guess, 160lb/hr injectors with the stock fuel pump and rails? ;)

Ackbar00 02-05-2004 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stang_Crazy
Mustang driver 2- Can you please brief us on your fuel system setup? I'm curious to know what you're running with 205's and a 125 shot.

Let me guess, 160lb/hr injectors with the stock fuel pump and rails? ;)

And a EFI Spyider:p

Dark_5.0 02-05-2004 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ackbar00
And a EFI Spyider:p
Thats pretty much what he would have to have to match up with the ported afr 205's.

gtjeremy 02-05-2004 07:05 PM

ok hypothetically if it was a twin turbo, even a shitty driver could've smoked me, correct? what do they trap in et's?

Ackbar00 02-05-2004 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gtjeremy
ok hypothetically if it was a twin turbo, even a shitty driver could've smoked me, correct? what do they trap in et's?
STOCK - 97-100mph


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