Whut does the new SS have in it?

KillerStang · 05-14-2002, 05:36 PM

im wondering whut motor the new SS's have b/c 1 pulled up next to me so i rev it a lil bit. when the light turns green, he starts to pull away cuz my car falls on its face cuz my clutch is bad, well then im pissed so i let off the gas and put my foot in the floor my car finally responds and i start pullin up on him hard was gonna go for the pass but road merged to 1 lane so i had to let off cuz i wasnt gonna try for the pass and end up catchin the dirt. if u wana know i drive a 90 5.0 GT, bbk jet coated aluminum equal lenght haders, to bbek jet coated off road h-pipe, w/ flowmasters and 3.73's in the rear, i was suprised with my car when i was pullinon him, my mom didnt like it much, butit was funny.

Big Paul · 05-14-2002, 09:01 PM

The same underrated LS1 they have since '98.

It should make 325 FWHP, but my brothers '98 Z28 makes 310 RWHP and runs the 1/4 with good traction at 13.8 @107 STOCK.

That SS should be the same, GM labeled them at 305, 310, and 325 over the years, but some really make that rear wheel. I'm surprised you kept up.

Coupe5oh · 05-14-2002, 10:07 PM

Well, i dont want to sound like an "ls1 humper" but without heads and cam, "pulling on an 00 ss is bs? sorry, i almost an ss ls1 on e.t. streets through the 1/8th mile, his was 8.6, mine 8.7, him on street tires, he ran 13.2 me 13.7, his trap 108, mine 99 mph, he did have 2.1 60' me a 1.9, also his car was not stock but had a lid and maf, being an a4 auto, it pulled me good.

KillerStang · 05-15-2002, 12:05 AM

i forgot to put the cam i got a 303 cam, but no lie, if u wanna say bs say it, wont bother me cuz i know i can pull on 1 so... its no biggie

mysweetlx · 05-15-2002, 01:09 PM

I don't think it's bs, I just don't think he was racing at that point.

KillerStang · 05-15-2002, 01:21 PM

ok if u say im liein thats cool, just cuz i can keep up wit 1 and u cant... ur just gonn say he wasnt racin cuz ur jealous that ucat do it, but for a face he was racing u could hear his engine revin just as loud as it was when he floored it off the line, but hey it dnt bother me if u say that, its actully kind of funny thatu guys talk like they r so fuckin fast, yeah they r quick but not some type of god. and u all talk like a pretty much stock mustang is slow, i guess mine is special or something but hey say whut u want

95mustanggt · 05-15-2002, 02:00 PM

English, people, English!

Remember that people who try to read this stuff can have a hard time reading when you don't use proper englsih.

Don't mean to sound lame, but it would be nice...

Barrfight · 05-15-2002, 04:04 PM

I don't know a whole lot about mods for the fuel injected gm motors so please forgive me when i ask, What is the "lid" mod is on the lt1 and ls1?

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 05-16-2002, 05:23 PM

Hey man don't get so defensive. Everyone is just purely stating a fact that ls1's are much faster than a 5.0 with exhuast. That cam really isnt doing anything to your car either if you still have the stock heads and intake.

Unit would probably disagree with this but that car is faster. He either was not trying as hard as possible or he wasnt that great of a driver.

This is the truth man. Sad but True

Later,
Nick

LT1 Z28 · 05-17-2002, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by Barrfight
I don't know a whole lot about mods for the fuel injected gm motors so please forgive me when i ask, What is the "lid" mod is on the lt1 and ls1?

The lid mod is for LS1's. They replace the stock chubby plastic box with an aerodynamic high-flow plastic piece. It costs around $200 US and usually nets gains of around 10-15 hp at the wheels used in combination with a K&N filter. The nice thing about the LS1 is that it grabs the cold air in front of the car while the LT-1 grabs it from under the car.

The LT-1 uses a tube relocating the air intake at the bottom of the driver's side. You need to cut the rubber splash guard to get fresh air from under the car. Good for 10-20 HP over the stock intake.

Marc

89 Cobra LX · 05-17-2002, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by KillerStang
ok if u say im liein thats cool, just cuz i can keep up wit 1 and u cant... ur just gonn say he wasnt racin cuz ur jealous that ucat do it, but for a face he was racing u could hear his engine revin just as loud as it was when he floored it off the line, but hey it dnt bother me if u say that, its actully kind of funny thatu guys talk like they r so fuckin fast, yeah they r quick but not some type of god. and u all talk like a pretty much stock mustang is slow, i guess mine is special or something but hey say whut u want

How fast did you two get going? If you're not racing an LS1 to 100mph then you're not racing an LS1. From everything I've read on this board, they really wake up after the 1/8th mile or around 60 mph.

Trapping 108 MPH in stock or near-stock trim is hauling balls. I'd be very surprised if you could even hit 100mph in the 1/4.

Reread Coupe5oh's post. In the 1/8th they were even. In the 1/4 he got slaughtered.

I really need to find an LS1 to race to see if I could hold off the "top end charge".

429mustang · 05-17-2002, 10:58 AM

The way I see it is any 5.0 with exhaust will probably still run 14's, most Camaro SS's run easy 13's, the new ones are supposed to break into the high 12's. If you were pulling on him, he probably wasn't trying. And what cam are you running, e-303, b-303, x-303, etc.?

Los · 05-17-2002, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by 89 Cobra LX

How fast did you two get going? If you're not racing an LS1 to 100mph then you're not racing an LS1. From everything I've read on this board, they really wake up after the 1/8th mile or around 60 mph.

Trapping 108 MPH in stock or near-stock trim is hauling balls. I'd be very surprised if you could even hit 100mph in the 1/4.

Reread Coupe5oh's post. In the 1/8th they were even. In the 1/4 he got slaughtered.

I really need to find an LS1 to race to see if I could hold off the "top end charge".

Hell yeah. They scream after about 60. Everytime I race one, I take it up to about 70, then they blow past me after that.

ricekilla · 05-18-2002, 12:54 AM

killerstang, how bout some punctuation bro, i get a headache every time i try to read one of your stories. my buddy's ls1 really wakes up in 3rd gear. there awesome for a stock car but give me a break, 48 extra cubes? high flowing aluminum heads? heads, cam, and intake on a 5.0 and you'll keep up w/ one. heads, cam, and intake on a 351w or 347 and you'll run like gangbusters. they should be compared to a 347 or a windsor anyway. stock stang vs. ls1? i'd put my money on the ls1.

Barrfight · 05-18-2002, 04:30 AM

thanks marc!

tireburner163 · 05-20-2002, 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by 89 Cobra LX

How fast did you two get going? If you're not racing an LS1 to 100mph then you're not racing an LS1.

WTF, OMG so if you don't race up to 100 you're not racing at all? WTF.

I've seen PLEANTY of LS-1's run in the 14's. A crappy driver and boom, the LS-1 ain't so hot anymore. Good driver in a fox, vs a SS with a bad driver, the fox will pull till the advantages of hp and aerodynamics take over.

So easy up guys and give this guy a break.

Coupe5oh · 05-20-2002, 01:30 AM

I agree, it's not nothing new to hear a 5.0 taking an ls1, traction problems can affect the ss, drivers...ect, crazier things have happened on the street, but lets be realistic,

a race takes place, both drivers gun it, 70 mph is but 5-6 seconds away, so could a near stock mustang pull on an ls1 until 70? probaly, like you said the power and aerodynamics take over from there, so its simple as that? if the stang doesnt have at least 275-300 at the wheels, its gonna get pulled after the cars lauch, 5-7 seconds after they started, maybe it would be a good race until 100 mph with a lightly modded stang and good driver, and trust me, an e-cam and exhaust isnt enough to put 275 to the wheels, therefore when these cars get rolling into high speeds, of course horspower is what wins, so there has been many people, including me, that have pulled a few stoplight jumps on f-bods making them look like fools, of course those never make it over 70-80 mph for me.

KillerStang · 05-20-2002, 01:45 AM

thanks guys, your right. i never said in anyhow or way that we got near or over 100, i just said i pulled him tell the road merged. like they said the dude could of sucked, who knows. but i never said i was near 100, i have never raced 1 to 100 and that was the first 1 i have raced and you dont gotta go to 100 for it to be a race. if at the light both drivers are revin at each other and you both take off, it is a race. the ls-1 probley would pass me in the higher speeds, but we werent in an area that you could hit that. so thanks tireburner163 and coupe5oh

Unit 5302 · 05-20-2002, 02:39 AM

My victories over the LS1 were not blowouts for 2 of the 3, and they never pulled on me. Having an LS1 pulling away hard core, then to stop it from pulling and start reeling it back in is a big difference from my wins, but I annihilated one from a stop, and my close runs were freeway run ins.

89 Cobra LX · 05-20-2002, 07:35 AM

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Originally posted by tireburner163
WTF, OMG so if you don't race up to 100 you're not racing at all? WTF.

If you're talking about a real race..... as in a 1/4 mile. YES.

Anyone who's serious into drag-racing sets up their car to run a 1/4 mile at a time.

05-14-2002, 05:36 PM	#1
KillerStang Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 30	Whut does the new SS have in it? im wondering whut motor the new SS's have b/c 1 pulled up next to me so i rev it a lil bit. when the light turns green, he starts to pull away cuz my car falls on its face cuz my clutch is bad, well then im pissed so i let off the gas and put my foot in the floor my car finally responds and i start pullin up on him hard was gonna go for the pass but road merged to 1 lane so i had to let off cuz i wasnt gonna try for the pass and end up catchin the dirt. if u wana know i drive a 90 5.0 GT, bbk jet coated aluminum equal lenght haders, to bbek jet coated off road h-pipe, w/ flowmasters and 3.73's in the rear, i was suprised with my car when i was pullinon him, my mom didnt like it much, butit was funny.

05-14-2002, 09:01 PM	#2
Big Paul Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Turlock, CA, USA Posts: 4	The same underrated LS1 they have since '98. It should make 325 FWHP, but my brothers '98 Z28 makes 310 RWHP and runs the 1/4 with good traction at 13.8 @107 STOCK. That SS should be the same, GM labeled them at 305, 310, and 325 over the years, but some really make that rear wheel. I'm surprised you kept up. __________________ ~Paul~ '87 S-10: 2.8L V6 Needin' something fast!

05-14-2002, 10:07 PM	#3
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	Well, i dont want to sound like an "ls1 humper" but without heads and cam, "pulling on an 00 ss is bs? sorry, i almost an ss ls1 on e.t. streets through the 1/8th mile, his was 8.6, mine 8.7, him on street tires, he ran 13.2 me 13.7, his trap 108, mine 99 mph, he did have 2.1 60' me a 1.9, also his car was not stock but had a lid and maf, being an a4 auto, it pulled me good. __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

05-15-2002, 01:09 PM	#5
mysweetlx Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 248	I don't think it's bs, I just don't think he was racing at that point. __________________ Damn this thing's fast!

05-15-2002, 02:00 PM	#7
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	English, people, English! Remember that people who try to read this stuff can have a hard time reading when you don't use proper englsih. Don't mean to sound lame, but it would be nice... __________________ 1995 Mustang GT 20016 F150 Lariat Super Crew

05-15-2002, 12:05 AM	#4
KillerStang Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 30	i forgot to put the cam i got a 303 cam, but no lie, if u wanna say bs say it, wont bother me cuz i know i can pull on 1 so... its no biggie

05-15-2002, 01:21 PM	#6
KillerStang Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 30	ok if u say im liein thats cool, just cuz i can keep up wit 1 and u cant... ur just gonn say he wasnt racin cuz ur jealous that ucat do it, but for a face he was racing u could hear his engine revin just as loud as it was when he floored it off the line, but hey it dnt bother me if u say that, its actully kind of funny thatu guys talk like they r so fuckin fast, yeah they r quick but not some type of god. and u all talk like a pretty much stock mustang is slow, i guess mine is special or something but hey say whut u want

05-15-2002, 04:04 PM	#8
Barrfight Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 51	I don't know a whole lot about mods for the fuel injected gm motors so please forgive me when i ask, What is the "lid" mod is on the lt1 and ls1? __________________ Give Blood--Play Rugby! HOOAH! Red 1991 LX 5.0 Hatchback BBK Headers 2 Chamber Flowmasters 2 1/2 in. exhaust Underdrives 1.7 roller rockers ported stock intake and heads 3.73 gears

05-16-2002, 05:23 PM	#9
MidNiteBlu 5.0 I got something to say Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,557	Hey man don't get so defensive. Everyone is just purely stating a fact that ls1's are much faster than a 5.0 with exhuast. That cam really isnt doing anything to your car either if you still have the stock heads and intake. Unit would probably disagree with this but that car is faster. He either was not trying as hard as possible or he wasnt that great of a driver. This is the truth man. Sad but True Later, Nick __________________ 91 LX Hatch 5.0 - made for the twisties 89 LX Hatchback 5.0 5spd. stolen/stripped 4/7/05 http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?3494 1987 Toyota Pickup Ricer Haters Club Member #33 Want a custom gauge cluster for your Vintage Mustang? www.jmeenterprises.com

05-17-2002, 10:58 AM	#12
429mustang Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: westerville, OH USA Posts: 618	The way I see it is any 5.0 with exhaust will probably still run 14's, most Camaro SS's run easy 13's, the new ones are supposed to break into the high 12's. If you were pulling on him, he probably wasn't trying. And what cam are you running, e-303, b-303, x-303, etc.? __________________ 1990 Notchback: BBK Ceramic Coated Full length headers, Dr. Gas 3"- 2 1/2" x-pipe, Flowmaster 40's/turndowns.

05-18-2002, 12:54 AM	#14
ricekilla Registered Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: sinful boys SO CAL Posts: 736	killerstang, how bout some punctuation bro, i get a headache every time i try to read one of your stories. my buddy's ls1 really wakes up in 3rd gear. there awesome for a stock car but give me a break, 48 extra cubes? high flowing aluminum heads? heads, cam, and intake on a 5.0 and you'll keep up w/ one. heads, cam, and intake on a 351w or 347 and you'll run like gangbusters. they should be compared to a 347 or a windsor anyway. stock stang vs. ls1? i'd put my money on the ls1. __________________ 89 GT, 3.55's, longtubes, pro chamber, flowpath dumps, mac uppers and lowers+ pinion snubber, underdrive pullies, 70mm t-body, 190 lph penis pump, mildly home ported E7'S by the kid hisself, nitto drag radials..... 13.4 @ 106......... on nitto drag raidials. spinning like gangbusters...... chevy silverado w/ a full works suzuki RM 250 and a full works honda fourtrax 250R (girlfriends bike) in the back, moto x'in it up bro!

05-18-2002, 04:30 AM	#15
Barrfight Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 51	thanks marc! __________________ Give Blood--Play Rugby! HOOAH! Red 1991 LX 5.0 Hatchback BBK Headers 2 Chamber Flowmasters 2 1/2 in. exhaust Underdrives 1.7 roller rockers ported stock intake and heads 3.73 gears

05-20-2002, 01:30 AM	#17
Coupe5oh Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SanAntonio, Tx Posts: 734	I agree, it's not nothing new to hear a 5.0 taking an ls1, traction problems can affect the ss, drivers...ect, crazier things have happened on the street, but lets be realistic, a race takes place, both drivers gun it, 70 mph is but 5-6 seconds away, so could a near stock mustang pull on an ls1 until 70? probaly, like you said the power and aerodynamics take over from there, so its simple as that? if the stang doesnt have at least 275-300 at the wheels, its gonna get pulled after the cars lauch, 5-7 seconds after they started, maybe it would be a good race until 100 mph with a lightly modded stang and good driver, and trust me, an e-cam and exhaust isnt enough to put 275 to the wheels, therefore when these cars get rolling into high speeds, of course horspower is what wins, so there has been many people, including me, that have pulled a few stoplight jumps on f-bods making them look like fools, of course those never make it over 70-80 mph for me. __________________ Police package 5spd 90 Lx, Stock original motor, 3.27grs, BM fan, fms 10.5 clutch, D&D quadrant, and adjuster, ADS chip, 180 stat, mac cai, mac h-pipe, mac subframe connectors, ASP crank pulley, ripper shifter, 26x10.5 M/T sport pros welds. 246 hp according to analyzer Race weight: 3,120 E.t-13.57 with 26x10.50's e.t. streets. 1.88 60' mph- 99.92 mph

05-20-2002, 01:45 AM	#18
KillerStang Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 30	thanks guys, your right. i never said in anyhow or way that we got near or over 100, i just said i pulled him tell the road merged. like they said the dude could of sucked, who knows. but i never said i was near 100, i have never raced 1 to 100 and that was the first 1 i have raced and you dont gotta go to 100 for it to be a race. if at the light both drivers are revin at each other and you both take off, it is a race. the ls-1 probley would pass me in the higher speeds, but we werent in an area that you could hit that. so thanks tireburner163 and coupe5oh

05-20-2002, 02:39 AM	#19
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	My victories over the LS1 were not blowouts for 2 of the 3, and they never pulled on me. Having an LS1 pulling away hard core, then to stop it from pulling and start reeling it back in is a big difference from my wins, but I annihilated one from a stop, and my close runs were freeway run ins.