300Z Question

cobrayankee · 02-01-2001, 11:26 AM

I was talking to a co worker and he said that the 1990's Nissan 300Z was not only rear wheel drive, but also that the rear wheels turned slightly in the direction you are turning. He said it was very minor, nothing like the radius of the front wheels. Is this true?

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spinemup · 02-01-2001, 11:37 AM

yep, aws. the awd turbo cars had it.

95mustanggt · 02-01-2001, 12:04 PM

The 300Z turbo was AWD??? I didn't know that.

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Ripper · 02-01-2001, 12:37 PM

300ZXs were not AWD cars and I never heard of them having any proclaimed four wheel steering system, I could be wrong. Honda Preludes claimed to have a 4 wheel steering system. The only AWD turbo cars I know of are the Mitsubishi cars and their Dodge/Eagle counterparts (Stealth/Talon).

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joe4speed · 02-01-2001, 12:41 PM

yes I'll have to agree with Ripper on that.. I'm pretty sure that a '90 300ZX does not have AWD! get under there and take a look!

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spinemup · 02-01-2001, 01:15 PM

whoops!!!! my bad i just did a little investigating to find that they are rwd you guys are right im sorry for being such a dumba$s

Unit 5302 · 02-01-2001, 02:19 PM

He was probably thinking the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4's. They are all wheel drive, and they have 4 wheel steering like what you described.

I don't think the 3000GT debuted until 1991 though? Anyway, I guess they are pretty similar, kinda. Both have 3.0L twin turbo V-6's, although I'd day the Nissan's is better. The 300ZX was rated at 305hp or something, the early 3000GT's were at 300hp, and the later versions had 320hp.

Oh, and by the way, if you ever do come across a 300ZX that has 4 wheel steering, I suggest you fix it!

[This message has been edited by Unit 5302 (edited 02-01-2001).]

fastang · 02-01-2001, 02:43 PM

The mitsu/stealth is the only car I have ever known to have awd steering and the mitsu is a much better car than the nissan.

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95mustanggt · 02-01-2001, 03:10 PM

I didn't think they were AWD. I like the mitsubishi, but I also like the nissan. tough to say which is a better car. If I had the money I would buy a Cobra

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Rev · 02-01-2001, 05:14 PM

He may have been thinking of the toe-in alignment for the IRS in the 300ZX. That's the only thing I can think of that he might be referring to.

Rev

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S Howard · 02-04-2001, 02:55 PM

If I remember correctly the Honda NSX has/had all wheel steering, however don't bet your money on it.

S Howard · 02-04-2001, 02:56 PM

Or was it Nissan NSX? Going to research that one.

Honda/Acura NSX.

[This message has been edited by S Howard (edited 02-04-2001).]

inferno · 02-04-2001, 05:33 PM

The 300ZX does have four wheel steering. Nissan made it's real performance cars with 4 wheel steering. These cars include the 300ZX, the Skyline, and the Silvia(the Japanese 250hp version of our poor 240sx with a whopping 150hp). The second gen 240's in the U.S. also got four wheel steering but it was a waste of engineering for such an underpowered car.

Rev · 02-04-2001, 06:14 PM

Just as with the Preludes, it had to go bye-bye as a rotten design, if in fact, it existed at all.

Rev

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'66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph
1/4 mi.

inferno · 02-04-2001, 08:23 PM

It left the Prelude for the exact same reason why it shouldn't have been in the second gen 240SX....not enough power to really use it effectively and both cars were light enough that they didn't need the extra help in handling. The 300ZX makes very good use of the system while stock, but it is more prone to snap oversteer when you add more power. Stillen makes a part to eliminate the four wheel steering in the 300ZX. If it was a rotten design, I don't think that Nissan would use it in the Skyline, Silvia, and the 300ZX.

Rev · 02-04-2001, 08:36 PM

Yup, that's why we see it so often in competition, because of the superior design.

Rev

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1/4 mi.

inferno · 02-04-2001, 08:44 PM

I guess you didn't notice that I said the system is used in the Skyline and Silvia....it is used in the race versions as well(except 1/4 mile only cars).

[This message has been edited by inferno (edited 02-04-2001).]

Rev · 02-04-2001, 09:06 PM

And that's why it wins so many road courses?

Rev

02-01-2001, 11:26 AM	#1
cobrayankee Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 516	300Z Question I was talking to a co worker and he said that the 1990's Nissan 300Z was not only rear wheel drive, but also that the rear wheels turned slightly in the direction you are turning. He said it was very minor, nothing like the radius of the front wheels. Is this true? ------------------ 1997 Cobra (Black on black), C+L 80mm MAF, K+N filter, Pro 5.0 shifter, BBK Springs, Taylor Wires, 2 Chamber Flows, ASP Pulleys, BBK off road H pipe.

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02-01-2001, 11:37 AM	#2
spinemup Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: middleboro,ma, usa Posts: 734	yep, aws. the awd turbo cars had it.

02-01-2001, 12:04 PM	#3
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	The 300Z turbo was AWD??? I didn't know that. ------------------ White 1995 Mustang GT Dynomax Cat-Back, Offroad H-pipe, K&N Filters w/o Air Silencer My 1995 Mustang GT

02-01-2001, 12:37 PM	#4
Ripper Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: Danbury, CT, USA Posts: 273	300ZXs were not AWD cars and I never heard of them having any proclaimed four wheel steering system, I could be wrong. Honda Preludes claimed to have a 4 wheel steering system. The only AWD turbo cars I know of are the Mitsubishi cars and their Dodge/Eagle counterparts (Stealth/Talon). ------------------ ************************ 1999 GT - Laser Red K&N, Steeda pulleys, Steeda strut tower brace & Tri-ax (Upcoming mods: subframes (bought), Bassani X (next), & FMS 3.73s

02-01-2001, 12:41 PM	#5
joe4speed He said Member...heh, heh Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Jupiter, Florida U.S.A. Posts: 3,718	yes I'll have to agree with Ripper on that.. I'm pretty sure that a '90 300ZX does not have AWD! get under there and take a look! ------------------ Joe! 1988 GT, 167,000 miles!!! 13.71@105mph Check out my listing! Click here! Or my website: www.joe4speed.com 1999 Ninja ZX-6R 10.32@135mph!

02-01-2001, 01:15 PM	#6
spinemup Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: middleboro,ma, usa Posts: 734	whoops!!!! my bad i just did a little investigating to find that they are rwd you guys are right im sorry for being such a dumba$s

02-01-2001, 02:19 PM	#7
Unit 5302 Registered Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 5,246	He was probably thinking the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4's. They are all wheel drive, and they have 4 wheel steering like what you described. I don't think the 3000GT debuted until 1991 though? Anyway, I guess they are pretty similar, kinda. Both have 3.0L twin turbo V-6's, although I'd day the Nissan's is better. The 300ZX was rated at 305hp or something, the early 3000GT's were at 300hp, and the later versions had 320hp. Oh, and by the way, if you ever do come across a 300ZX that has 4 wheel steering, I suggest you fix it! [This message has been edited by Unit 5302 (edited 02-01-2001).]

02-01-2001, 02:43 PM	#8
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	The mitsu/stealth is the only car I have ever known to have awd steering and the mitsu is a much better car than the nissan. ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, weld in subframe connectors

02-01-2001, 03:10 PM	#9
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	I didn't think they were AWD. I like the mitsubishi, but I also like the nissan. tough to say which is a better car. If I had the money I would buy a Cobra ------------------ White 1995 Mustang GT Dynomax Cat-Back, Offroad H-pipe, K&N Filters w/o Air Silencer My 1995 Mustang GT

02-01-2001, 05:14 PM	#10
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	He may have been thinking of the toe-in alignment for the IRS in the 300ZX. That's the only thing I can think of that he might be referring to. Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi.

02-04-2001, 02:55 PM	#11
S Howard Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 195	If I remember correctly the Honda NSX has/had all wheel steering, however don't bet your money on it.

02-04-2001, 02:56 PM	#12
S Howard Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 195	Or was it Nissan NSX? Going to research that one. Honda/Acura NSX. [This message has been edited by S Howard (edited 02-04-2001).]

02-04-2001, 05:33 PM	#13
inferno The Instigator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: So Cal and Houston Posts: 764	The 300ZX does have four wheel steering. Nissan made it's real performance cars with 4 wheel steering. These cars include the 300ZX, the Skyline, and the Silvia(the Japanese 250hp version of our poor 240sx with a whopping 150hp). The second gen 240's in the U.S. also got four wheel steering but it was a waste of engineering for such an underpowered car.

02-04-2001, 06:14 PM	#14
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Just as with the Preludes, it had to go bye-bye as a rotten design, if in fact, it existed at all. Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi.

02-04-2001, 08:23 PM	#15
inferno The Instigator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: So Cal and Houston Posts: 764	It left the Prelude for the exact same reason why it shouldn't have been in the second gen 240SX....not enough power to really use it effectively and both cars were light enough that they didn't need the extra help in handling. The 300ZX makes very good use of the system while stock, but it is more prone to snap oversteer when you add more power. Stillen makes a part to eliminate the four wheel steering in the 300ZX. If it was a rotten design, I don't think that Nissan would use it in the Skyline, Silvia, and the 300ZX.

02-04-2001, 08:36 PM	#16
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	Yup, that's why we see it so often in competition, because of the superior design. Rev ------------------ '66 Coupe, 306, 300 HP, C-4, 13.97 e.t., 100.3 mph 1/4 mi.

02-04-2001, 08:44 PM	#17
inferno The Instigator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: So Cal and Houston Posts: 764	I guess you didn't notice that I said the system is used in the Skyline and Silvia....it is used in the race versions as well(except 1/4 mile only cars). [This message has been edited by inferno (edited 02-04-2001).]

02-04-2001, 09:06 PM	#18
Rev Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1998 Location: Houston, Tx. Posts: 3,887	And that's why it wins so many road courses? Rev