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RAGE_5.0 09-20-2001 05:46 PM

a 429????hhhhmmmmmmm
 
well this morning i was looking in the newspaper when my eyes became fixated on an add
it said 1970 429 rabuilt........thats all it said no price or anythin
i am thinkin about callin this guy to see wut he wants for it and when it was rebuilt.....could i fit this in my 1990 gt????
i know i would have to change rear end transmission driveshaft and bell housing
wut else would i have to change for this to work???
if anyone could tell me wut kind of et i could get with a 429 it cxould probably help my decision

thx in advance
JAMES

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Unit 5302 09-20-2001 06:57 PM

Don't confuse cubic inches with power.

The non Boss 429 was a dog in stock form. If you want to mod it that's fine, but I still think you'd be better off with a 302 or 351 windsor engine.

RAGE_5.0 09-20-2001 07:38 PM

k unit thanks for the info

i was just wondersing about that

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RAGE_5.0 09-20-2001 07:41 PM

unit would a 351 cleveland or a 390(out of a mustang or torino) go really good in the gt?
and are the 429scj dogs to?
i want something that not to many people have in the fox bodys


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Unit 5302 09-20-2001 11:09 PM

The Boss 429 semi hemi engine is a monster. As far as the SJC I believe all that has to do with is the internals of the engine.

There have been some people who've put the cleveland into their fox's. I personally like the cleveland, but I'm sure the FE engines are not too common in the fox's either.

86GT 09-21-2001 09:45 AM

There's a guy from Wheatley that has Fox body stang with a 429 in it. Trust me, they may make only 370 horse, but try 460+ lb/ft of torque, unmodified. Then if you find a gem of a SCJ you'd be set. I've tried getting my oldest brother to sell me the 429CJ in his 70 Torino GT Convertible, but he's restoring it, so I'm stuck with my 5.0L.

Just like Unit said tho, you have to get the CJ or SCJ, the base or Thunderjet isn't all that great, didn't make much power for such a big cube engine. I'd say call that ad, and see what its all about, and find out what castings the heads are, etc..

RAGE_5.0 09-21-2001 04:43 PM

thx
wut mustang is the 1 with the 429?

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Frank VandenBerg 09-21-2001 06:00 PM

429 a dog? I don't think so. The Thubnderjet made more torque than the CJ and SCJ. The Boss was a good Nascar engine and wasn't that great for drag racing. A 70 429 is a good engine no matter which one it is. If it's newer than 72 it had big chamber heads on them. If it's a good price go for it.

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1989 LX Hatchback
5.0, 5spd., 3.73's, 65mm TB,gasket matched upper int., phenolic spacer,MSD wires, Accell coil, pullies, K&N, MAC cat-back,BBK 1 5/8" chrome long tubes,Steeda clutch quadrant, HPM subs, HD clutch
Best ET- 14.1
Best MPH- 101
60ft. 2.329

2000 Honda CR250R


Unit 5302 09-21-2001 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Frank VandenBerg:
429 a dog? I don't think so. The Thubnderjet made more torque than the CJ and SCJ. The Boss was a good Nascar engine and wasn't that great for drag racing. A 70 429 is a good engine no matter which one it is. If it's newer than 72 it had big chamber heads on them. If it's a good price go for it.


LOL... Yeah, that 429 was a brute. The 1970 429 was rated at 360hp@4600rpm "gross" and 480lb/ft@2800rpm "gross". Do a net hp conversion to that thing and your talking more like 280hp and 380lb/ft. 10.5:1 compression is what got those numbers up there. If you were to put 10.5:1 CR on a stock 302HO engine, you'd be looking at 250hp or so and 330lb/ft. The ratings on the 429 Semi-Hemi are a bit skewed too. In truth it made way more than it's rating, as did the Cleveland 351 4v's.


Just spoke with my dad about that 429 engine. It raced in his class back in the early 70's. He was running a 63 Vert with 427FE. He said the standard 429 was a dog for the most part. He did say some of them ran, but most weren't any competition at all.

Frank VandenBerg 09-21-2001 07:51 PM

A stock Thunderjet 4V in 1970 had 11:1 cr. You're telling me that 280 "net" hp could put a 4100 pound Torino ragtop into the 14.0 range at 105 mph? The motor in my Torino was dynoed after it was rebuilt with stock parts. With all the accessories on it pulled damn near 380hp@4500 and 510ft.lbs.@2900.

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1989 LX Hatchback
5.0, 5spd., 3.73's, 65mm TB,gasket matched upper int., phenolic spacer,MSD wires, Accell coil, pullies, K&N, MAC cat-back,BBK 1 5/8" chrome long tubes,Steeda clutch quadrant, HPM subs, HD clutch
Best ET- 14.1
Best MPH- 101
60ft. 2.329

1970 Torino GT convertible,429cid

2000 Honda CR250R


Unit 5302 09-22-2001 02:09 AM

I personally love how everybody thinks their old Musclecar is/was so heavy. Your Torino convertable weighs 3632lbs according to this website
http://www.torinocobra.com/specs.htm

A couple sites that I visited seemed to think your Torino could run in the 13's with 280hp at that weight, including this one. I didn't feel like searching again for the site that listed the 429 at 10.5:1 compression. The fact you state it's 11:1 makes it all the more unimpressive to me. It's iffy to even get away with pump gas with compression that high on iron heads. As far as the 105 trap the analyzer on this page puts you at 340hp. The analyzer also puts my car at 280hp. A figure I know is optimistic. Another analyzer was more conservative putting you at 300hp to make that trap with your weight.

How about a tidbit of Mustang info. Most of the late 60s Mustangs were lighter than the Fox body's. Just because it has a frame and some iron doesn't mean it's heavy. All the bells and whistles on the new cars add up in the weight fast.

[This message has been edited by Unit 5302 (edited 09-22-2001).]

Frank VandenBerg 09-22-2001 12:42 PM

Sorry to insult your web surfing skills. I've got a scale ticket on the weight and dyno sheets. I've owned 4 late 60's Mustangs. Anyways you gotta be right. What was I thinking? Computer analyzers are the cats *** and would be 100% dead nuts. Sorry you're the man.

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1989 LX Hatchback
5.0, 5spd., 3.73's, 65mm TB,gasket matched upper int., phenolic spacer,MSD wires, Accell coil, pullies, K&N, MAC cat-back,BBK 1 5/8" chrome long tubes,Steeda clutch quadrant, HPM subs, HD clutch
Best ET- 14.1
Best MPH- 101
60ft. 2.329

1970 Torino GT convertible,429cid

2000 Honda CR250R


1BAD89 09-24-2001 09:23 PM

Ahahaha, gotta love those analyzers and G-tech's. =P

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1989 GT, 3:55's, full exhaust, 4 in. hood, Pro 5.0, Have many other parts 4 sale. All parts for sale now.

2000 Camaro SS-A4, 13.7's bone stock.

1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383(500+hp on motor), trick flow heads, trick flow pistons, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, and so much more!

Unit 5302 09-24-2001 11:31 PM

4100lbs seems heavy to me when the older standg weigh less than the newer ones, but if it weighs 4100 then it weighs 4100. The website I referenced had a ton of info on the car, which seemed reputable to me, as much as your claims anyway.

Dyno sheets I don't really give a rats *** about. I've seen enough of those being bullshitted not to trust them. As far as the 429 being a real performance monster it seems strange that most of them didn't run, according to people like my dad who raced in that class 20 years ago. Tuning a car right equates for a shitload of performance. Are you running electronic ignition, aftermarket, stock carb and all that? A good tune can pull tons of hp out of one of those old carbed machines.

1BAD89 You had your shot at me and my Gteched car, but as I recall, as soon as that was brought up you disappeared. LS1 in the shop?

bigwhitecobra 09-25-2001 11:12 AM

Here's a thought. Take an aluminum 429, put a fuel injection system on it and a Vortech T-trim, in a street driven car. One day I'll have that combo, and sub-8's on a street car will be the norm.

Well, maybe not 8's but still damn fast.

86GT 09-25-2001 02:27 PM

I think this is turning into a pissing contest and getting away from RAGE's question.

RAGE, it can be done, there's a few people locally that have put a big block in their cars, and they are monsters. It does take quite a bit of patience. Consider that you are not only going EFI to carb, but small block to big block. So you'd need all the items to go from SB EFI to BB Carb'd. After that, you may be disappointed, or may not. If I were you I'd stick with the small block EFI with some good heads, intake, cam, etc. And consider a blower or nitrous in the future. That's what I did over putting a BB in my car.

As for E.T.s it comes down to suspension, tune, and skill, as well as traction and a bunch of other things. The one guy's car (an 86) with a 429 in it runs consistent 11.8s on 87 octane with ET Streets, but has a good suspension setup (remember the BB weighs a ton more than a SB, and that's all in the front of the car, not where you want it).

Unit 5302 09-25-2001 06:40 PM

This isn't a pissing match. I'm just not all that impressed with some of the older engines. The standard 429 is one of them. It was only produced for a few years, and it never made the name for itself that the 427 or 428 did.

I'm not going to dispute the 429's potential. Only that from the people who were running when the 429 was on the streets, it usually wasn't much competition. Keep in mind, my dad was running low/mid 13's in a '63 Full Size Vert. His friend was running 14.0's with the 390 tri power in the full size as well.

RAGE_5.0 09-25-2001 06:56 PM

joe i think i am gonna take ur advice considering i don't have the money to do the job all at once and it if i do it half assed i will probably hate the car and sell it
i think i got it worked out how i'm gonna do it
this summer suspension and small mods
2nd summer heads intake cam and all that ****
3rd summer vortech t trim
maybe it will take 4 years
good things are worth waitng for

thx to anyone who gave advice to me on this topic

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1965GTO 09-25-2001 11:07 PM

Rage5.0 you would not need to change your rearend if you have an 8.8.You could definetly build any 429 to make more power than a 5.0 in the same modification range but would probably cost a little more. You could even put the king of all ford engines in a mustang, although modifications would be needed, the 429SOHC.

mustangII460 09-25-2001 11:31 PM

My dog has 826 HP @ 827 LBS TOURQE.

But hes a BIG A$$ DOG!!

1BAD89 09-28-2001 12:52 PM

***1BAD89, You had your shot at me and my Gteched car, but as I recall, as soon as that was brought up you disappeared. LS1 in the shop?

As soon as what was brought up? LoL. I believe that whole topic was deleted and I just ended that there. So when did I have this shot? Because I must have missed it... By the way I got my "all stock" car down to 13.4. So....w/e you think man.

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1989 GT, 3:55's, full exhaust, 4 in. hood, Pro 5.0, Have many other parts 4 sale. All parts for sale now.

2000 Camaro SS-A4, 13.4 all stock.

1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383(500+hp on motor), trick flow heads, trick flow pistons, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, and so much more!

[This message has been edited by 1BAD89 (edited 09-28-2001).]

Dark Knight 09-28-2001 02:05 PM

you can buy swap kits to put a 429/460 in the fox body... headers etc... fits pretty nice really... and I watched a guy with a low compression 460 in a fox run low 13's in street tires.. no DR's... C-6 and 3.08 gears... if you want to put one in your car, go 460, more cubes... easy to get 500HP and 500 ft/lbs of torque from one N/A
handling will suck though ;-)

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84 convt,'95 302,AFR's, performer
3.55's, underdrives BBK shorties
stock cam, 1.7's
13.85@102.5
and a '68 stang that WAS nasty ;-)


Unit 5302 09-28-2001 06:20 PM

Easy to talk now that my trip has gone by. Like I said, I made the offer, the thread was deleted a while after that. I was willing to drive the distance to show your supercar tail lights but you didn't respond in the time the thread was still open.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda...

Doesn't matter much now, does it?

mustang marty gt 09-28-2001 07:10 PM

rage they made 500 boss 429's in 1970 to run the nascar circuit against the superbird' that petty & etc ran.

[This message has been edited by mustang marty gt (edited 09-28-2001).]

Frank VandenBerg 09-28-2001 09:39 PM

Anyway, Rage stick with the 302 unless you plan to get another car.
Besides, the Thunderjet was the passenger car motor, the CJ and SCJ were the hipo motors.

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1989 LX Hatchback
5.0, 5spd., 3.73's, 65mm TB,gasket matched upper int., phenolic spacer,MSD wires, Accell coil, pullies, K&N, MAC cat-back,BBK 1 5/8" chrome long tubes,Steeda clutch quadrant, HPM subs, HD clutch
Best ET- 14.1
Best MPH- 101
60ft. 2.329

1970 Torino GT convertible,429cid

2000 Honda CR250R


1BAD89 09-29-2001 12:32 PM

***Easy to talk now that my trip has gone by. Like I said, I made the offer, the thread was deleted a while after that. I was willing to drive the distance to show your supercar tail lights but you didn't respond in the time the thread was still open.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda...
Doesn't matter much now, does it?

LOL. I didn't hear anything about you coming here? You could've sent me a private message if you wanted some? How was I supposed to know when you were comming here "supposedly"? Anyway it's a pointless race, we would line up, I would pull quite a few car lengths and then what? Waste 13 seconds of my life on an guy that thinks he's a "bada$$" and can beat all LS1's, because he only has dynomax mufflers and an o/r h-pipe? I'd love to say this again, you'd lose. Stock for stock you just can't hang and we all know that. You could also look at it this way, you said you ran a 14+ on your G-tech, and said you could pull a 13.8x off?(Yeah right) Anyway even if you could run a 13.8 you still .4 tenths slower, if you need help processing than use an analyzer!!! Anyway you do the math, I just can't understand what you are thinking? =P Have a great day, I know I will.

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1989 GT, 3:55's, full exhaust, 4 in. hood, Pro 5.0, Have many other parts 4 sale. All parts for sale now.

2000 Camaro SS-A4, 13.4 all stock.

1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383(500+hp on motor), trick flow heads, trick flow pistons, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, and so much more!



[This message has been edited by 1BAD89 (edited 09-29-2001).]

mustang marty gt 09-29-2001 01:16 PM

89 89 89 mymy just kidding, had'nt heard from you for awhile take care.see ya

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Unit 5302 09-29-2001 03:17 PM

Nice that you don't even remember the deal, 89?

No big deal. As far as I'm concerned, you've just been hangin with the ricers. All talk. That's already been proven. 13.4 on a racetrack. Not a country pothole infested road like I ran on. Maybe you think you can run the same on a beatup tractionless broken pavement strip as the drag strip? LOL. You are an idiot.

1BAD89 09-29-2001 03:41 PM

I do my racing at the track, sorry. And my SS is just my daily driver, I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else. But ask anyone on here which is fast a stock LS1 that runs 13.4's or a stock mustang 87,88? with dynomax mufflers with an o/r h-pipe. LoL. For someone with your knowledge, or knowledge to browse the internet for answers, whatever....you want to call it, I'm almost bored to read your reply's to me anymore. I'm sorry you don't have any "nice" roads by your house, so you can really show that G-tech what it's made of! Get to a track, post your times, so we can all have a good laugh. And I'm sure you'll post your real times right? Righhhhtt.... It's guys like Unit, that have never raced there car at the track that really make me smile, when they talk, sh*t. You should really talk to someone about fixing your roads.

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1989 GT, 3:55's, full exhaust, 4 in. hood, Pro 5.0, Have many other parts 4 sale. All parts for sale now.

2000 Camaro SS-A4, 13.7's bone stock.

1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383(500+hp on motor), trick flow heads, trick flow pistons, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, and so much more!

Itgoez 09-29-2001 09:38 PM

Unit, is there little blue people that live in mushrooms in your world. You don't have a clue.
Rage, do up your 302 a little at a time. It's a fair bit of wrenching to change it.

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Unit 5302 09-29-2001 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Itgoez:
Unit, is there little blue people that live in mushrooms in your world. You don't have a clue.
Rage, do up your 302 a little at a time. It's a fair bit of wrenching to change it.

I'm getting sick and tired of morons. When you get a car that doesn't require battery packs and a 9 volt for the controller, let me know. In the meantime please address the particular part of what I said that I don't have a "clue" about.

It's always good to know some people who have 7 posts have somehow aquired infinate knowledge of everything that has transpired on this board in the last few months/years.

Please enlighten me.

Wait better yet, even before I hear your response, here's my reply.

#1 Unit 5302 doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to the 429 being a dog.

Reply: Sorry, dude. That's the word from several people who I'm close with that raced when the 429 was being run on the strips. It was no big deal. I'm suspicious of a 14.0@105 run period. That's just about how Skyman's car ran on the street. Traction for that car was non-existant. I'm talking smoking in 3rd gear.

#2 Unit 5302 doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to the 429 having 10.5:1 compression.

Reply: I found 4 more sites listing this information constructed by automotive lovers. 3 of the 4 list the 360hp version as having 10.5:1 compression, and the other lists it as 11.0:1. Four sources to One. Now it's quite possible that the Boss 429 had 11.0:1 (11.3:1), but as I have seen 5 printed references to this information, and 4 have listed 10.5:1, I'm inclined to say it was more likely 10.5:1.

#3 Unit 5302 doesn't know what he's talking about when he links a site that lists the weight of a Torino GT Vert at 3600 lbs.

Reply: Since the Mustang of that year weighed in at a hefty 3100lbs with the FE engine, I don't see why 3600lbs is too far off. 4100lbs is unreasonable in my opinion when it comes to curb weight. Race weight, yeah, I believe with a 300lb driver and a full tank of gas would get you there, or at least close to there no problems. Musclecars are not as heavy as people make them out to be. It's a case of the older I get, the heavier/faster it was. People who own/owned these Musclecars would like to remember the good times as if todays cars just can't compete. The fact is, the newer cars are better in nearly every way on paper. They just lack the history, nostalgia, and character that the Musclecars have.

#4 Unit 5302 doesn't know what he's talking about as far as the stock 429's having major power.

Reply: Once again I can make reference to the fact the 429's were considered by the above cited people to be nothing big. Furthermore the claim of 14.0@105 makes me wonder. Maybe it's one hell of a fuckin runner? I searched files and information on that car for 30 minutes. Trap speeds on the GT (not the vert) ranged from 92-100mph with the 429 non Boss. Even the usually unbelievable Car Craft guys could only pull a 105 out of a stock "wink wink" Torino GT 429SCJ semi hemi. Yes the guys at Car Craft were great at pulling awesome times and trap speeds out of those cars, but like most other tests, the SCJ runs away from the thunderjet 429 on top end. On a side note, 280 net hp would be pretty accurate for a conversion. I'm only using about 25% loss. I've seen as high as 30% cited. Maybe the engine was underrated and really makes 290 net hp. Side side note. The stock 5.0HO made 225hp with 9.0:1 CR. Going from 9.0:1 to 10.5 or 11.0:1 CR would have added at least 20hp. The Mustang Cobra, which was very much de-tuned can makes an underrated 240hp with 8.8:1 CR or so. With 10.5:1 or 11.0:1 compression it would make 360 gross hp pretty damn easy.

#5 Unit 5302 doesn't know what he's talking about when he said 1BAD89 disappeared when I said I'd be more than happy to meet up in Kansas City (1/2 way) actually closer to him.

Reply: I'm glad you think so. I'm sure you have been all over this board in the past few weeks with your 7 posts.

#6 Unit 5302 doesn't know what he's talking about when he says 1BAD89's car won't run as good on busted-*** pavement than it does at a racetrack.

Reply: When you are riding your big wheel, ever notice how traction gets worse when you go onto the grass Itgoes? That's a lot like what happens when you go from a drag strip with smooth traction compound infested starting boxes to a country road that hasn't seen a road crew in 15 years with buckled pavement and a high hp car.

#7 Unit 5302 doesn't know what he's talking about when he says 1BAD89 or anybody else who's supposedly informed, is an idiot when they think comparing a time on a country road vs a time on a racetrack is equal ground with performance.

Reply: See above reference you the post regarding your big wheel.

In the future I hope you decide to pick a specific area to say I don't have a clue in.

1BAD89 09-30-2001 01:55 AM

***#5 Unit 5302 doesn't know what he's talking about when he said 1BAD89 disappeared when I said I'd be more than happy to meet up in Kansas City (1/2 way) actually closer to him.

***Reply: I'm glad you think so. I'm sure you have been all over this board in the past few weeks with your 7 posts.

**#6 Unit 5302 doesn't know what he's talking about when he says 1BAD89's car won't run as good on busted-*** pavement than it does at a racetrack.

Ok first off, who races on busted up roads? First thing that comes to mind are hill-billy's. I did not dissappear, I saw no post on you meeting me in Kansas City? WTF, And what is the point we could go to the track, the street, wherever you want, you'd still lose. And if you think the guy that posted with 8 posts is me, it's not. Which one do you think would run faster on a beat up road?...think about it real hard...ok? you ready? An automatic LS1, or a 5-speed mustang. Any scenario you "make up" your still slower. So "ALL MIGHTY DYNOMAX GUY" the question is why are you THE most bitter fug on here? GO TO A TRACK, GET SOME TIMES, are you afraid, and no I don't want to hear your excuses...Track Times are it...Not any G-tech crap, THE TRACK IS WHERE THE REAL TIMES ARE. When I step back and read all your posts, it makes me think if you were the Little Fat fugger that got picked on at elementary school? THE TRACK WILL TELL...Racing on streets with potholes etc, is the most ignorant thing I have heard. And the racetrack that I ran my 13.4 on is not "sticky" and I was on street tires still spinning. So all I really see in your posts are excuses. You know people don't like jacka$$es and that is what you've become. It's even funnier that you haven't raced at the track yet, but those stock 5.0 heads must be flowing reallllllllllllllllllll good the way you say it runs on ol busted up roads with potholes on it. LoL. What were the flow numbers of the stock heads again? Come on look it up, hurry now, run along. Once again do the math. Please. LoL.

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1989 GT, 3:55's, full exhaust, 4 in. hood, Pro 5.0, Have many other parts 4 sale. All parts for sale now.

2000 Camaro SS-A4, 13.4's bone stock.

1989 Chevy S-10, EX. Cab-383(500+hp on motor), trick flow heads, trick flow pistons, etc... autometer phantom gauges, "built" 700R4, roll cage, lexan back window, corbeau seats, R.H.S. 5 harnesses, Fuel cell, convo pro wheels, 15x14's with 29x18.5 M/T'S on back, 15x4's on front, nitrous, and so much more!



[This message has been edited by 1BAD89 (edited 09-30-2001).]

Frank VandenBerg 09-30-2001 12:30 PM

A 3600lb. convertible had a 302, bench seat and a C-4. My car has power everthing and A/C. I had three Thunderjet motors and when I had them built. The compression was 10.9 or more with stock pistons and virgin heads. The fact that you have to look up sites on the internet to back up your statements, to me means you don't really have alot of common sense, and are ignorant to the fact that when people have concrete evidence to show you're wrong, you're still right. Anyway keep the shiny side up.

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1989 LX Hatchback
5.0, 5spd., 3.73's, 65mm TB,gasket matched upper int., phenolic spacer,MSD wires, Accell coil, pullies, K&N, MAC cat-back,BBK 1 5/8" chrome long tubes,Steeda clutch quadrant, HPM subs, HD clutch
Best ET- 14.1
Best MPH- 101
60ft. 2.329

1970 Torino GT convertible,429cid

2000 Honda CR250R


Itgoez 09-30-2001 12:39 PM

Unit, the number of posts has nothing to do with knowledge. It seems to me you've got nothing better to do. Go get a girlfriend. The reason I look on here is to get a chuckle out of dumba$$'s like you. I've forgotten more than you'll ever know. The other reason is to get some insight on the newer parts available for Mustangs. Have fun.

Unit 5302 09-30-2001 07:51 PM

You are all fuckin morons... Can't handle the fact I don't have the desire to drive 300 miles to the nearest track and spend between $40 and $135 to make one or two runs? **** that. It's expensive as hell to run here.

Maybe ******* dumbass SOB's can run up and down the strip in front of the cop shop dragging the 1/4 mile on a Gtech, but here, they bust your stupid redneck Oklahoma *** . You chickened out, didn't even come up with an excuse. Now you sit back like the ricer you are and talk the talk. You've been nothing but hatin on Mustangs since you got that pile of fuckin **** Fbod. Go to LS1.com and rant on about your invincible pile of **** . I'm tired of the 9 million GM dickheads on this site. They come out of the woodwork to rip on the stangs every time a kill post is made on an LS1 (or impossibly, a car faster than an LS1) You bitched about getting traction dumbass. My car isn't running anything less than a 13.8 when I tune it. **** that, I can get better than that out of it if I need to. Meanwhile your times will go to hell running on what I was running on. You're dumb as a rock. Traction advantage ME. I ran on it. You didn't. You honestly think my time will get worse running on what I already ran on?

Frank I've never met a person more blinded by rose colored shades than you. I'm sorry I don't carry around the compression ratios in my head for every car ever produced. All I go by is the numbers printed in books, and what people put out that are DEDICATED to the things. The people who build those sites have more effort into them that what you'll ever have into your old Torino, buddy. For what? Do they get money for it? **** no. They get a bunch of peon idiots like yourself running around saying they have a 10.9:1 CR fresh built stock 429. But as long as your alzheimers having piece of **** *** brain recalls 10.9:1, that's what it is. Take your BS 105 trap speed (wouldn't even trap that on a Gtech) face and wash all the **** you just spewed out off.

Itgoez get your head outta your *** . You think you've got some knowledge. Fine. What are you posting in Windsor for? You can't pick up a magazine and look through it for prices on a 9"? I saw your post on getting a 9" into an 85 Mustang. What the **** for? Are you gonna be running 7's? Your dad ask you how to get that info off the internet for him?

You can all kiss my *** . Can't handle reality, not my problem kiddies. Reality is the LS1 is not unbeatable. Reality is all the options in the world don't add more than a couple hundred pounds. Reality is you come and talk **** , I'll make you look like a monkey.

Skyman 09-30-2001 08:11 PM

Sorry, but 4100lbs + 360gross hp does not = 105mph trap speed.
My car weights around 3100-3200lbs, has More HP than that, and traps 107.

Skyler



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12.54@107.4 Motor
332RWHP, 350rwtq

Rev 09-30-2001 08:23 PM

I actually trapped 107.5 and 13.83 on the G-Tech with my new Road Demon carb. That's probably only 102 actual. Can't wait to get to the track for a real time slip.

Rev

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mustang marty gt 09-30-2001 08:33 PM

go unit i think you pretty well got the lowdown , man! we got into it once, & i checked it out & apoligized, i do think when it come's to car's esp. ford's you do know your fact's let it go man , i learned it is not worth getting p. o .ed about , idon't know why all theses ricer's & - you gotta love this , iheard a new one for gmc -gay man coming, guess i'll catch it for that oh well ,who cares. i don't.take care .

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86GT 09-30-2001 10:02 PM

I think a moderator should close or delete this thread. Sorry to say it guys, but this got way out of hand from Rage's questions.


1BAD89 09-30-2001 10:31 PM

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Itgoez 10-08-2001 01:30 PM

Well, bring your POS over the border and I'll run your *** . I'll even spot ya 40 cars and still beat you by 15. Anyways have a nice life.

Coupe Devil 10-08-2001 03:24 PM

Rage if you want to build a big block, go for it. Hell it's your car isn't it. I am always up for advice but nobody makes my mind up for me. Some may try but that only happens once. I will only do something to my car that I have seen work. I have seen people put big blocks in fox bodies and helped one guy shoe horn his in a drag car, but I wouldnt have tried it unless I had seen it.

I have a friend that has a 65' stang with a STOCK 302 in it and it runs great but its just a small block. I also have a friend that is a Ford mechanic. He is one of those guys that always has the best at the track, and everyone goes to him for questions. He recently worked on a very rare car and I got to drive it for the test after it was done. He rebuilt the engine in a 67 fastback mustang, I thought no big deal when the man delivered it to us but we opened the hood and OH MY GOD what a motor. The car had been sent to "Holmann and Moody", yes that right I said "Holmann and moody" soon after it was purchased new in 67. The little feeble 289 hipo was chunked and in its place a 427 tunnel port. I had never even seen one until this one.

He brought it to us and it sounded like it was running on four cylinders maybe and it still kicked *** al the way throught three of a top loader 4 speed. Let me tell you that car was F'n awesome. Sure its heavy but Damn it would fly. After we got the car done it was hard not to spin the tires taking off. In closing Dont take my advice its just what I saw. YOu want a big block find someone that has done it, loook at thiers ahve them take you for a ride. If you like it build it, if not spend YOUR money somewhere else.

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'93 lx notch 4 banger (drive it to work currently), Using the 306, 8.8 posi, 4.10's, summit rear cover, elec. fan, cowl hood, wieand stealth intake, holley 650 d.p.carb., built c-4, e-303, full autometer guages, msd box, mallory unilite dist, and coil, roll cage, summit seat, subs, 15x10's in the back with slicks, skinnies up front, all in use for 1988 Hatch Drag Car. Hope to start running next year. Hoping for 7.20's after all is done with small motor.

RAGE_5.0 10-08-2001 05:44 PM

if i had the money and another car i would probably go for a big block but i am only 17 and wouldn't be able to afford to.......
i think i am just going to do up the 302 to spank the big blocks.......
the goal for my car is to be in the 11's adn i want it there in around 4 years
haven't figured out exactly how i am gonna acheive this but i know it involves a vortech t trim. this next winter and summer i am gonna paint it put new rims(reflex,snypers or draglites) and do some minor mods

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