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StoplightWarrior 08-28-2002 08:18 PM

Alright, MWorks, Im out...
 
Well...i've been frequenting less and less lately...and I think I'm gonna call it quits for awhile...

I always considered Mustangworks my home on the net...I love the people and the site content. As a consequence of my posting, I happened to have a nicely inflated postcount. I never felt I was a "post *****" having only accumulated 1180posts in over 2 years. But, I did feel that my post count and date of register gave me some clout on the site...new members could sign up, ask for advice, and when I threw in my .02, they'd see that I'd been around, and likely knew my stuff.

Now, though, and this has been building...i'm just having trouble with some of the policies starting at this site. The eliminating the post count thing seems stupid to me...and rather than hang around and cause trouble, I think I'm just gonna bow out and say peace for now. I'm sure I'll still check here once in awhile, see how some of my net buddies are doing...but for now, Im just gonna leave mustangworks the way I found it...as a great spot on the net, albeit one that unfortunately doesnt mesh with my tastes right about now.

RBatson 08-28-2002 08:28 PM

Oh, come on bro! Did it really mean that much to you? You can't leave because of this! You've been here for over 2 yrs, we are still the same people.. Don't go..

Eric4Nitrous 08-28-2002 08:43 PM

Man, you guys are letting this post count get to you..really bad. Is it THAT important???

StoplightWarrior 08-28-2002 08:45 PM

Yeah, you guys make good points, alright, I'll stay. :D

StangFlyer 08-28-2002 08:49 PM

I would like to point out StoplightWarrior that you do, in fact, still have your post count. The only difference is that it's not stuck in everyone's face on every single post a user makes, making a competition out of it. If someone really wants to see your post count as a factor to judge you (which I think should at most only be a very small factor in judging anyone here), they can easily pull it up under your profile.

Any ways, glad you'll stick around. A post count would be a silly thing to leave everyone here for. Every member here is a valued member, whether they have 100 posts or 10,000.

Eric4Nitrous 08-28-2002 08:54 PM

Glad your stayin man. :)

95mustanggt 08-28-2002 09:01 PM

Don't worry Stoplight, I know who you are and I'll give you credit.

Anyone tries to mess with you they mess with me :cool:

StoplightWarrior 08-28-2002 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 95mustanggt
Don't worry Stoplight, I know who you are and I'll give you credit.

Anyone tries to mess with you they mess with me :cool:


Let's kick some tail!!

srv1 08-28-2002 09:59 PM

he is not going anywhere. he just wanted to mess with us! didnt fool me!:D

that would be lame if someone left cause of a post count......

Mustangbelle306 08-28-2002 10:21 PM

Am I the only person that sees its not just about a stupid *** post count?? I can't believe anyone actually thinks that one of our long time members would leave for such a stupid reason...:rolleyes: I guess some people need things spelled out for them ;).

The fact is that the board OBVIOUSLY has in some way come to the point that it NEEDED the post count moved to a different location, that it needed the rules blatantly posted as a sticky in the main forum, and so on.

So, if someone chooses to leave because of this, I for one understand, (hell I've posted less recently than I have in as long as I can remember) but its not because of a stupid number, so please...enough with the shortsightedness.

Oh, and btw...

Goodbye...and Welcome Back :D

tireburner163 08-28-2002 10:51 PM

BWHAHAHAHA......love the avatar SRV1

no autographs please:cool:

Crazy Horse GT 08-29-2002 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tireburner163
BWHAHAHAHA......love the avatar SRV1

no autographs please:cool:

bwahahaha, how much you gonna pay me for you autograph.:D :D , at least now certain people will quit whining about the post count, who cares.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: , not you warrior.

moc 08-29-2002 12:37 AM

Crazy
 
Man ! people just love that post count ?:rolleyes:

Crazy Horse GT 08-29-2002 12:45 AM

what post count??? lol it dont matter to me one way or the other, im glad the bickering about it will go away, that's all.:D :D :p

Mr 5 0 08-29-2002 09:55 AM

Welcome back
 
StoplightWarrior:

Your post count remains on your profile. Your reputation is secure here so I'm glad you will still be around.

I can guarantee that in a few months, no one will be thinking much about post counts as the site expands and improves.


Mustangbelle306:

When things need fixing, we address them. The post count placement was one and it's been addressed. Simple. The rules needed to be re-stated because we get new people every day and we are no longer tolerating flagrant abuse of the staff or the facilities. A reminder was necessary and that's been done. Not a big deal.

With well over 20,000 registrations, we need to have control over the structure of the boards, as you seem to understand. A few don't or rebel at rules and/or any changes. So be it. We aim for quality and we believe we have it. I think you appreciate that, as most others do.

Now, come back more often. You're welcome here.

MTU 50 08-29-2002 12:04 PM

HA-HA, I 've been here longer than most of you! Finally, some bragging rights.:D

I'm j/k BTW.

MustangWorks Rules!!!!

Mustangbelle306 08-29-2002 12:50 PM

Re: Welcome back
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mr 5 0
The rules needed to be re-stated because we get new people every day and we are no longer tolerating flagrant abuse of the staff or the facilities. A reminder was necessary and that's been done.

I think you appreciate that, as most others do.

Now, come back more often. You're welcome here.

I understand why the rules were restated, and actually I'm glad for it (damn dirty newbies! :D) I was just surprised at some of the replies that seemed to think he would actually leave because of a NUMBER (not thinking beyond the obvious).

I do very much...

and Thanks :).


Belle

Eric4Nitrous 08-29-2002 12:53 PM

It's always good to see belle smile.lol

Mustangbelle306 08-29-2002 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric4Nitrous
It's always good to see belle smile.lol
If and WHEN I do, right?? :D :D :D

Just joshin' ya ;)

Eric4Nitrous 08-29-2002 01:09 PM

your a good girl most of the time ;) So how's the job hunting coming along?

andy669 08-29-2002 02:01 PM

The only problem I had with the post count was with a few members who had three or four thousand posts, thinking they were somehow superior to the people who only had three or four hundred. Not all of the top posters were like this, just a few. I dont know if this is going to change that or not, but it cant hurt. I could care less about the postwhores, and the 'lol posts'. I try to rate members by the quality of the information they give. (only in the technical forums)

Andy

Ty'97Cobra 08-29-2002 02:50 PM

who cares about post counts..... trolls are easy to spot with a 3 post count or 3,000 post count.

keep up the good work MWks

hillie16 08-29-2002 05:36 PM

Even places where post counts are shown, I never paid attention to them, the content of the post is what matters to me.

(okay except for Zach at svtperformance...over 10k posts in 2 years, I pick on him for it all the time LOL)

joe4speed 08-30-2002 12:18 AM

Well, I AM bummed... I liked it! (but, I'm funny like that) :(
Oh well... Once a ho, always a ho.

Crazy Horse GT 08-30-2002 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by joe4speed
Well, I AM bummed... I liked it! (but, I'm funny like that) :(
Oh well... Once a ho, always a ho.

i agree joe, i never said, or thought i was superior to the newbie whiners, just like to talk alot it dont mean nothing, so newbie's wwwhhhhhaaa, cry baby, we never said we were better than you, you have the problem, get over it:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p this is just a talk about anything foroum, or i thought it was?:confused: i thought i lived in america= freedom of speech. btw i usually try to welcome each new member to the boards & tell them , ask if they need help or info.

gt lee 08-30-2002 09:43 AM

WHO CARES, THERES MORE TO LIFE THEN A POST COUNT.....
Just my 2 cents, man everybody getting upset over something that is just a #. Myself I like it here just to be able to chat with a bunch of really cool, great, people. So lets get on with life and enjoy Musttang Message Borad and end this constant nonsence. Odie :rolleyes: :cool:

tireburner163 08-30-2002 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andy669
The only problem I had with the post count was with a few members who had three or four thousand posts, thinking they were somehow superior to the people who only had three or four hundred.
BS........don't spew that kind of crap

andy669 08-30-2002 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tireburner163
BS........don't spew that kind of crap
Hey Tireburner, when I am talking to you or about you, I will address you. Dont say that my opinion on this matter is crap. It is what I have felt and dealt with firsthand.

'Er wait, maybe this is exactly what I am talking about.:confused:

Andy

tireburner163 08-30-2002 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andy669
Hey Tireburner, when I am talking to you or about you, I will address you. Dont say that my opinion on this matter is crap. It is what I have felt and dealt with firsthand.

'Er wait, maybe this is exactly what I am talking about.:confused:

Andy

I don't think I'm am superior to you. And neither does anyone else because their post count is higher than yours. There are only a handful of MW'ers on here with more than 1500 or so posts.......and they are all top notch guys(or girls).

Please link us all to a thread, any thread, where a member with several thousands posts looked down you you and thought you were inferior to him because of his post number.

Mustangbelle306 08-30-2002 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andy669
Hey Tireburner, when I am talking to you or about you, I will address you. Dont say that my opinion on this matter is crap. It is what I have felt and dealt with firsthand.

'Er wait, maybe this is exactly what I am talking about.:confused:

Andy

So...because he is disagreeing with you, now he is acting superior because his POST COUNT is higher??? Please...:rolleyes:

joe4speed 08-30-2002 12:48 PM

It's not that I'm upset-going-to-jump-off-a-bridge about it, it was just a fun thing, that really doesn't mean anything. It's NOT gonna change my life if it's not there, trust me I do have better things to do with my time than worry about a post count, it was just fun, that's all! I know you can click on the profile to see it, but, man, I'm lazy! :)
Ask tireburner, he'll tell ya!!! ;)
Don't worry, I still think MW is the best, no doubt about that! Carry on! :) I'm excited to see the new version of the board, I hope it's cool enough to upgrade! :)

929PhoenixSquid 08-30-2002 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joe4speed
It's not that I'm upset-going-to-jump-off-a-bridge about it, it was just a fun thing, that really doesn't mean anything. It's NOT gonna change my life if it's not there, trust me I do have better things to do with my time than worry about a post count, it was just fun, that's all! I know you can click on the profile to see it, but, man, I'm lazy! :)
Ask tireburner, he'll tell ya!!! ;)
Don't worry, I still think MW is the best, no doubt about that! Carry on! :) I'm excited to see the new version of the board, I hope it's cool enough to upgrade! :)

Yeah? Well.....
Well.....
I'm superior to you because of my post count......and stuff.....
Yeah....:p

Skyman 08-30-2002 01:17 PM

I find this pretty strange. This message board is here to please the users of it correct?

It seems to me the majority of the people liked the post count.

So why remove it?

Give an option to have it displayed or not. (If the software allows it)

Skyler

Kamaro Killer 08-30-2002 01:43 PM

I don't mind it being gone
 
I have only been here for a few months and have only racked up 150 posts or so, but come on, does it REALLY matter? I was one of the people who wanted the post count to stay, but it doesn't mean that much. I am still able to talk to people, and have any questions I have answered, it only seems to change the appearance of the boards IMO. Personally, I have yet to feel inferior to ANYONE here because of a post count. Everyone has been very friendly and helpful anytime I had any questions, even if they were stupid (I mean stupid questions). I am 21, and nobody made me feel inferior to them because of my lack of knowledge either, which is hard to find!

Now, I am assuming that because I am a guy, I didn't get the welcome committee that some of the women get, but that's understandable :D I think anyone who really cares about getting valuable FREE information about their cars, and about meeting cool people, will not let this change affect them. I for one, will not let it affect me, I'll still be lurking in the shadows reading the posts day in and out.

Sorry if I offended anyone, I'm not intentionally trying to, but I just had to vent. Thanks, Keith.

andy669 08-30-2002 01:58 PM

tireburner, Belle I take it you guys didnt see the facetiousness in my last statement. Let me clarify. I do not think tireburner was acting superior to me because his post count versus mine. That statement was thrown in with a hint of sacrasm that I thought would be detected.

tireburner I dont need to, nor do I have the time to dig up old threads where I thought I was looked down on, or where my opinion wasnt taken seriously, because of low post count. Whether you guys think it happened or not, it is completely subjective. You guys might not see it, whereas I might. Keep in mind, this was never in BOL, just in the technical forums.

Anyone else care to disect and twist everything I say?

Andy

StoplightWarrior 08-30-2002 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skyman
I find this pretty strange. This message board is here to please the users of it correct?

It seems to me the majority of the people liked the post count.

So why remove it?

Give an option to have it displayed or not. (If the software allows it)

Skyler

I agree 100%:

Is there anyway we can do this guys? Probably not, :( but is it even possible? Thanks.

929PhoenixSquid 08-30-2002 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andy669
tireburner, Belle I take it you guys didnt see the facetiousness in my last statement. Let me clarify. I do not think tireburner was acting superior to me because his post count versus mine. That statement was thrown in with a hint of sacrasm that I thought would be detected.


Thus presenting the difficulty of expression through the medium of text.... Sarcasm is easily lost. After a while, I just gave up on humor unless it's BLATENT humor that even a small child could detect. :)

Quote:

Originally posted by andy669 Anyone else care to disect and twist everything I say?

Andy
Um, what exactly do you mean by "twist"? Could you please elaborate on that? I'm feeling a little hostility in there.....:D

tireburner163 08-30-2002 02:20 PM

Quote:

Whether you guys think it happened or not, it is completely subjective. You guys might not see it, whereas I might.[/B]
So what you saying is that the comments made were so vague and non-exsistant that many wouldn't see them as what you do?

andy669 08-30-2002 02:43 PM

929 hehhe.... Nah, just more sacrasm that wasnt detected...lol....

tireburner No that is not what I am saying. I am saying that since it was directed to nobody other than me, anyone else probably wouldnt take it that way.

Is it just me, or is this getting a little redundant? I dont think I have ever posted so many replies in a single thread before...lol...

Andy

PKRWUD 08-30-2002 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by StoplightWarrior
I agree 100%:

Is there anyway we can do this guys? Probably not, :( but is it even possible? Thanks.

I was under the impression it had been resolved a month ago, but apparently someone kept whining about it. Kinda funny how it's a bigger deal/topic now that it was while it was here. Go figure.

Take care,
~Chris

Mr 5 0 08-30-2002 11:53 PM

Post count ad nauseam
 
Chris

You contribute a lot to the site and it's always appreciated but I'm asking you, as one man to another, to knock this off.

Dan and I discussed dropping the messageboard post count some time ago but we've both been distracted by other priorities, including making a living, and felt there was no rush to do this. My feelings were known to Dan and everyone else for months.

The irrelevance of the post count was brought home when I zeroed out my count and only a few members even noticed and you were the only one to comment directly and publicly on it. That was interesting.

I know the count was important to you, you made that very clear to both Dan McClain and to me. However, Dan saw that it was becoming a distraction and he decided to eliminate it. Up until then, the only real 'whining' we heard was from you, especially your pleading PM to Dan to not drop the count.

My view, your view as well as many others were all considered but Dan is the owner, he runs the site and he was getting as annoyed as I was with the silly post count distraction. It just wasn't worth it anymore. He's explained that more than once, now. How many times does he have to do this?

I'm sure that you run your business as you see fit and if a few customers get their nose out of joint over some change you feel the need to institute, I seriously doubt you cater to them. Neither do we, not on a free site.

You don't like implications about having too much time on your hands or not knowing anything? I can appreciate that because I don't care much for your snide remarks about whining and power trips over something as minor as a post count. Let's get the priorities in order. In a week, no one will even think much about a stupid post count. These suddenly-hot 'issues' seem to flicker out and die quickly on the internet. That's for the best.

Let it go at that and let's stop beating a very dead horse.

Jim

PKRWUD 08-31-2002 12:22 AM

Jim

I found it very helpful to have around. It's still available, it's just more of a pain now, but whatever. You keep referring to people who post just to inflate their count, yet I know of less than 5, total, that do that, and none of them are around anymore. But changing things for them is the answer to the problem that didn't really exist? Either way, it does come across as a power trip. As I've mentioned, I was totally unaware that a record was even kept until June. If you had asked me prior to that, I would have guessed that I wasn't even in the top 100. What irks me the most about the count, and it's demise from easy view, is that you seem to be the major voice behind it's move. You used to make jokes about being #1, and didn't seem to have a problem with it then. I received an email about a month ago from a member congratulating me for passing you for the "top spot". BFD. I looked, and sure enough, I had passed you by 10 or 15 posts. So what? The next day, I received an email from that same person telling me that you had passed me again. Again, so what? When I looked to see what they were talking about, I noticed you were suddenly credited with 100 more posts, overnight. That's when it felt like a power trip. I continued to reply to posts in my usual manner, when it was brought to my attention by ANOTHER member who asked you about zeroing out your numbers, that you had done that right after I had passed you again.

Jim, I haven't done anything to inflate my count, or to try and "compete" with anyone. I come here to spend time with good friends, and to help some people when I can. This whole thing has turned into a big joke, and really isn't worth the time or effort. What I mentioned above were just the facts as I noticed them, and I'm sure there is much more involved, I just don't care anymore. I thought this had all been resolved, but I was wrong.

Take care,
~Chris

joe4speed 08-31-2002 01:13 AM

blah blah blah blah blah blah
*joe steps out for a while*

induction 08-31-2002 01:37 AM

Re: Post count ad nauseam
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mr 5 0
Chris



The irrelevance of the post count was brought home when I zeroed out my count and only a few members even noticed and you were the only one to comment directly and publicly on it. That was interesting.

I know the count was important to you, you made that very clear to both Dan McClain and to me. However, Dan saw that it was becoming a distraction and he decided to eliminate it. Up until then, the only real 'whining' we heard was from you, especially your pleading PM to Dan to not drop the count.



Let it go

Jim

Ok I know that I have just thrown myself into the rath but if you all don't mind I would like to point out something that I feel is important , at least to me.

As for Mr 5 0's post count being zeroed out I have no doubt that more then " just a few members" noticed it . We/I just didn't respond to it because you stated how you felt about the whole thing and thats cool . I for one didn't want to question it for the fear of being , ( maby this isn't the correct word so forgive me ) shouted down or open a debate with you on the matter only to feel inferior. I don't debate very well as you know first hand and thats my misfortune. Be that as it may so I chose to let it go (being coy).

I think it's also unfair of you to bring up the subject matter of someones PM that was directed to another person . Why do we have the PM option anyway if it's not Private? If anyone wanted to make a conversation public then it would have been posted for ALL to see. I just seem to recall you saying something to the effect of things can be handeled via PM as to not clutter this forum with the likes of a flame war or misunderstandings ect. Yes I know who owns the site and that the moderators have a un-paid job to do so that everyony enjoys the best free site around and I respect that more then you know, but this bothers me .
Sorry for the rant but I had to get that out . Thanks

PKRWUD 08-31-2002 02:12 AM

Re: Re: Post count ad nauseam
 
Quote:

Originally posted by induction
I think it's also unfair of you to bring up the subject matter of someones PM that was directed to another person . Why do we have the PM option anyway if it's not Private? If anyone wanted to make a conversation public then it would have been posted for ALL to see. I just seem to recall you saying something to the effect of things can be handeled via PM as to not clutter this forum with the likes of a flame war or misunderstandings ect.
Interesting. I had overlooked that line, or I would have responded to it directly. I never "pleaded" with Dan to keep the count. I sent him a PM because I thought it wouldn't look right replying to that thread, seeing as some of the members take such things in a juvenile way. But, a couple days after sending it, the replies in that thread begged for it, so I replied, expressing another view. As I recall, I said the same things in my post that I did in my PM to Dan, but it was nice of you to bring that up anyway, Jim. With that in mind, Induction brings up a good point.

Take care,
~Chris

Crazy Horse GT 08-31-2002 02:19 AM

Re: Re: Post count ad nauseam
 
Quote:

Originally posted by induction
Ok I know that I have just thrown myself into the rath but if you all don't mind I would like to point out something that I feel is important , at least to me.

As for Mr 5 0's post count being zeroed out I have no doubt that more then " just a few members" noticed it . We/I just didn't respond to it because you stated how you felt about the whole thing and thats cool . I for one didn't want to question it for the fear of being , ( maby this isn't the correct word so forgive me ) shouted down or open a debate with you on the matter only to feel inferior. I don't debate very well as you know first hand and thats my misfortune. Be that as it may so I chose to let it go (being coy).

I think it's also unfair of you to bring up the subject matter of someones PM that was directed to another person . Why do we have the PM option anyway if it's not Private? If anyone wanted to make a conversation public then it would have been posted for ALL to see. I just seem to recall you saying something to the effect of things can be handeled via PM as to not clutter this forum with the likes of a flame war or misunderstandings ect. Yes I know who owns the site and that the moderators have a un-paid job to do so that everyony enjoys the best free site around and I respect that more then you know, but this bothers me .
Sorry for the rant but I had to get that out . Thanks

go girl, i agree i dont care if they took my post count away, heck look at some other sites , you see people with 14,000 posts, no biggie, it aint nothing, but just starting a lot of flame wars, which i thought, was one good issue, i think this is starting to drag mw down, oh well just my.02 , i may be wrong, whatever, nevermind,but i agree with you induction. l8ter. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D

6T9PONY 08-31-2002 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andy669
Anyone else care to disect and twist everything I say?
Who disected and twisted everything you said? You said some people with a greater post count than you made you feel inferior to them, we asked for an example, and you didn't give us one.

StangFlyer 08-31-2002 10:44 AM

Ok, this whole thing is just becoming ridiculous. The simply fact is that I made some changes to the board and the post counts are no longer displayed. There's no point in arguing and bickering about it on and on and on. In my book the change has been made, and now life goes on. Next month everyone will be used to the change and all will be well. So, instead of perpetuating the argument over it, let's just end it all and get on with it...


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