another "rice" question - Page 4

srv1 · 10-03-2002, 10:28 PM

your telling me you never seen a 600hp FWD drag car? i dont blame you if you havent.

whats all this mumbo-jumbo about prices? you pocket could have more money in it than mine, what does that have to do with a ricer?

this is not cbring · 10-03-2002, 10:57 PM

i posted some money figures, because it was implied that it isn't economically pheasible to "build" an import

is there a 600 horse FWD out there? i don't follow drag cars, straight-line doesn't do a whole lot for me and isn't my primary interest performance-wise

Crazy Horse GT · 10-04-2002, 12:25 AM

man give it up, ricers include domestic cars with the same stupid body mod's , sticker's, clear taillight's etc, i live an hour away, wanna line up against a stock gt? auto -even, i will smoke you like a cheap cigar, just ask the rice boy 3000 gt i burned 2 nights ago, he tried the fly by, tell you what, i will give you a 1 mile head start! since your peak is what 1800 rpm's, i cruise at 75mph at 2200 rpm's, LET"S ROCK!, put up or shut up. bling bling. how about it rabbit boy. case closed, pm me for my phone # lets rock.

your bs is starting to get on my nerves ,STFU. go away silly wabbit.

KiltedBanshees93GT · 10-04-2002, 01:01 AM

OK, just my $.02,
Speaking as someone who appreciates performance in any guise, I would like to venture this opinion.
To me there is definatly [sp] a difference between a car that has been modified and a car that has been "riced" (sorry, but the term grew out of the reality that the majority of those doing it were import owners).
The difference is ATTITUDE. A true enthusiast is interested in the performance of their car be it on the track, at a stereo compeition, on the course, etc.
The "rice" attitude leans more toward bluster rather than the hard side of the matter (more show than go in whatever arena). It doesent matter what you drive.If you are more interested in what others think your car can do than what it can actually do, you are a ricer.
And yes, there are import enthusiasts out there who really believe in making their car perform better, and appreciate that in others, but they are lost in a background of reckless-driving, fart can owning, dual exaust on a 4 banger driving twits.
To all the v-8 gearheads out there (me included), try to cut some slack for those who are being lumped into a bad boat because of others, and to all the import owners out there who know the real score, try to teach your loud , obnoxious bretheren, foregin and domestic, what being a car enthusiast is really about.
*blinks in confusion* where did that come from?
Tho I still think starting with an extra 4 cylinders is a good idea from the performance standpoint

Crazy Horse GT · 10-04-2002, 01:08 AM

i agree i was behind a STOCK honda today pulled up next to him & gave him a thumb's up, because it wasnt riced out & i saw his v - tech emblem's- factory , he waved at me, no prob. i respected his car.

this is not cbring · 10-04-2002, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crazy Horse GT
man give it up, ricers include domestic cars with the same stupid body mod's , sticker's, clear taillight's etc, i live an hour away, wanna line up against a stock gt? auto -even, i will smoke you like a cheap cigar, just ask the rice boy 3000 gt i burned 2 nights ago, he tried the fly by, tell you what, i will give you a 1 mile head start! since your peak is what 1800 rpm's, i cruise at 75mph at 2200 rpm's, LET"S ROCK!, put up or shut up. bling bling. how about it rabbit boy. case closed, pm me for my phone # lets rock. your bs is starting to get on my nerves ,STFU. go away silly wabbit.

you didn't follow very well, did you? i never claimed that i could beat anyone......i know that a 99-up should have no problem beating me

1) you want to race to race me, why would i call you long-distance? if i get out of the office early today, i don't end up buying a 68 chevelle (which seems to be falling through for me

), and i'm in the mood to put up with the import-hating bullsh!t i get at the track on test & tune night, ima run the volkswagen at knoxville dragway for the first time tonight..........warning: i run for fun, so i don't run people who are being dicks

2) in your sig, you mention k&n and flowmasters,yet claim to be "bone stock".......how do YOU define "bone stock"???

95mustanggt · 10-04-2002, 07:40 AM

Mufflers don't do jack for performance, only sound. And a K&N, well that depends who you talk to. You are not really doing anything different. I mean if there was a paper filter that claimed 10% more flow than a "stock" filter, and you use it, well you're still bone stock. I think stock implies that all parts are still OEM factory pieces, maintenance items not included (another example is spark plugs or spark plug wires).

Too bad you didn't go with the 02 GT. Not only would it hand a GTi it's ***** in the straight line, I bet you'd be suprised at how well it handles. You need a VERY curvey track to beat a mustang GT. I once read an article that compared an Integra Type R to a GT. They had to change the course to extremely twisty because the mustang kept winning. And most would consider the Type R a good handling car....

this is not cbring · 10-04-2002, 07:47 AM

straight-line is great, but not enough to justify the extra expenses for me, especially when i'm buying a classic muscle car as well

i wasn't surprised at how it handles........

it handles great, but isn't nearly as nimble as the gti and is a little too bulky for the tight autocross corses around here........

plus it is easier for a novice racer like me to drive a FWD well

95mustanggt · 10-04-2002, 07:53 AM

Guess it all depends on you skill, what you want to do with the car. Im my opinion the Mustang sits too high. But that's what aftermarket springs are for.

You need a lot of driving skill to keep the ***** end planted. After driving several winters, I got pretty good at it.

this is not cbring · 10-04-2002, 07:59 AM

i agree that the mustang sits high........but it sits real nice with aftermarket springs (unfortunately in solo II, that'll put you in modified class)........

from what i've experienced and witnessed, when many who halfway know their way around a course (but is by no means a professional driver) push a rwd harder, their times go up..........but when they push a fwd harder, their times go down

The Deuce · 10-04-2002, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by this is not cbring
i agree that the mustang sits high........but it sits real nice with aftermarket springs (unfortunately in solo II, that'll put you in modified class)........

from what i've experienced and witnessed, when many who halfway know their way around a course (but is by no means a professional driver) push a rwd harder, their times go up..........but when they push a fwd harder, their times go down

That's simply because they don't know how to push the RWD car harder. There is a real easy thing to do called "pushing too hard" on an FWD car the front end will push, and that is no fun. I've driven both to the limit (FWD and RWD) and I would much rather have the rwd because its easier to correct. That's also why cops go ape S**t when they are handed FWD cars.

Quote:

plus it is easier for a novice racer like me to drive a FWD well

I think that is the point I am trying to make exactly. You need to learn how to drive a RWD car to the limit. Once you do its much more fun.

Eric4Nitrous · 10-04-2002, 11:14 AM

I'll run you cbring. I won't even spray you..and i'll give you a 6 car head start..how bout it?

302 LX Eric · 10-04-2002, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric4Nitrous
I'll run you cbring. I won't even spray you..and i'll give you a 6 car head start..how bout it?

Showoff!

E

this is not cbring · 10-04-2002, 11:33 AM

if any of you read grassroots motorsports, there was a very good article comparing the handling characteristics of fwd, awd, and rwd.........

all three layouts have distinctive handling advantages and disadvantages

if the front end "pushes" on a FWD, you are entering the corner too fast and/or your sway bars/shocks are setup wrong

jj_jonathon · 10-04-2002, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eric4Nitrous
I'll run you cbring. I won't even spray you..and i'll give you a 6 car head start..how bout it?

beware pintos....yikes

10-03-2002, 10:28 PM	#46
srv1 Get down..... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Room 103 Posts: 2,095	your telling me you never seen a 600hp FWD drag car? i dont blame you if you havent. whats all this mumbo-jumbo about prices? you pocket could have more money in it than mine, what does that have to do with a ricer? __________________ Cobra brakes are on! Finally..... ------------------------------------------------

10-03-2002, 10:57 PM	#47
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	i posted some money figures, because it was implied that it isn't economically pheasible to "build" an import is there a 600 horse FWD out there? i don't follow drag cars, straight-line doesn't do a whole lot for me and isn't my primary interest performance-wise __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T

10-04-2002, 12:25 AM	#48
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	man give it up, ricers include domestic cars with the same stupid body mod's , sticker's, clear taillight's etc, i live an hour away, wanna line up against a stock gt? auto -even, i will smoke you like a cheap cigar, just ask the rice boy 3000 gt i burned 2 nights ago, he tried the fly by, tell you what, i will give you a 1 mile head start! since your peak is what 1800 rpm's, i cruise at 75mph at 2200 rpm's, LET"S ROCK!, put up or shut up. bling bling. how about it rabbit boy. case closed, pm me for my phone # lets rock. your bs is starting to get on my nerves ,STFU. go away silly wabbit. __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03 Last edited by Crazy Horse GT; 10-04-2002 at 12:39 AM..

10-04-2002, 01:08 AM	#50
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	i agree i was behind a STOCK honda today pulled up next to him & gave him a thumb's up, because it wasnt riced out & i saw his v - tech emblem's- factory , he waved at me, no prob. i respected his car. __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03

10-04-2002, 07:40 AM	#52
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	Mufflers don't do jack for performance, only sound. And a K&N, well that depends who you talk to. You are not really doing anything different. I mean if there was a paper filter that claimed 10% more flow than a "stock" filter, and you use it, well you're still bone stock. I think stock implies that all parts are still OEM factory pieces, maintenance items not included (another example is spark plugs or spark plug wires). Too bad you didn't go with the 02 GT. Not only would it hand a GTi it's ***** in the straight line, I bet you'd be suprised at how well it handles. You need a VERY curvey track to beat a mustang GT. I once read an article that compared an Integra Type R to a GT. They had to change the course to extremely twisty because the mustang kept winning. And most would consider the Type R a good handling car.... __________________ 1995 Mustang GT 20016 F150 Lariat Super Crew

10-04-2002, 01:01 AM	#49
KiltedBanshees93GT Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Pigeon Forge Tn Posts: 611	OK, just my $.02, Speaking as someone who appreciates performance in any guise, I would like to venture this opinion. To me there is definatly [sp] a difference between a car that has been modified and a car that has been "riced" (sorry, but the term grew out of the reality that the majority of those doing it were import owners). The difference is ATTITUDE. A true enthusiast is interested in the performance of their car be it on the track, at a stereo compeition, on the course, etc. The "rice" attitude leans more toward bluster rather than the hard side of the matter (more show than go in whatever arena). It doesent matter what you drive.If you are more interested in what others think your car can do than what it can actually do, you are a ricer. And yes, there are import enthusiasts out there who really believe in making their car perform better, and appreciate that in others, but they are lost in a background of reckless-driving, fart can owning, dual exaust on a 4 banger driving twits. To all the v-8 gearheads out there (me included), try to cut some slack for those who are being lumped into a bad boat because of others, and to all the import owners out there who know the real score, try to teach your loud , obnoxious bretheren, foregin and domestic, what being a car enthusiast is really about. blinks in confusion where did that come from? Tho I still think starting with an extra 4 cylinders is a good idea from the performance standpoint

10-04-2002, 07:47 AM	#53
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	straight-line is great, but not enough to justify the extra expenses for me, especially when i'm buying a classic muscle car as well i wasn't surprised at how it handles........ it handles great, but isn't nearly as nimble as the gti and is a little too bulky for the tight autocross corses around here........ plus it is easier for a novice racer like me to drive a FWD well __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T

10-04-2002, 07:53 AM	#54
95mustanggt Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Kamloops, BC Posts: 2,875	Guess it all depends on you skill, what you want to do with the car. Im my opinion the Mustang sits too high. But that's what aftermarket springs are for. You need a lot of driving skill to keep the ***** end planted. After driving several winters, I got pretty good at it. __________________ 1995 Mustang GT 20016 F150 Lariat Super Crew

10-04-2002, 07:59 AM	#55
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	i agree that the mustang sits high........but it sits real nice with aftermarket springs (unfortunately in solo II, that'll put you in modified class)........ from what i've experienced and witnessed, when many who halfway know their way around a course (but is by no means a professional driver) push a rwd harder, their times go up..........but when they push a fwd harder, their times go down __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T

10-04-2002, 11:14 AM	#57
Eric4Nitrous Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Va Posts: 1,122	I'll run you cbring. I won't even spray you..and i'll give you a 6 car head start..how bout it? __________________ 68 Camaro Gene Fulton 632ci Two stages of Jug 8.41 164mph Rockingham 1-26-03

10-04-2002, 11:33 AM	#59
this is not cbring Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 380	if any of you read grassroots motorsports, there was a very good article comparing the handling characteristics of fwd, awd, and rwd......... all three layouts have distinctive handling advantages and disadvantages if the front end "pushes" on a FWD, you are entering the corner too fast and/or your sway bars/shocks are setup wrong __________________ 2002 vw gti 1.8T

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