MASS exhaust legislation alert !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chevyguy · 04-12-2001, 10:47 AM

To all you guys in Mass read this carefully and act immediately and contact your state rep. This must be squashed

Legislation has been introduced in the MA House of Representatives (H.B.
3593) that would BAN the sale and installation of modified exhaust systems
that result in an increase in exhaust noise over that of a stock exhaust.
SEMA is EXTREMELY concerned that this bill would completely eliminate the
market for ALL types of modified exhaust systems in Massachusetts and would
allow law enforcement officials to make a subjective assessment as to
whether or not a system was louder than stock.
We encourage you to contact your State Representatives to oppose this bill.
If you do not know who your representatives are, please go to http://www.enjoythedrive.com/legisla...legislator.asp
PLEASE ACT IMMEDIATELY !!!
For more information, please contact Steve McDonald at 202-783-6007
(stevemac@sema.org)

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Frank W
90 5.0 LX coupe Daily driver. Silencer removed, K&N filter. Flexalite fan, 3 core radiator. FMS flywheel and Clutch
88 Notch 2.3L 5 speed Parts/beater car

74 Chevy Laguna Type S-3 305 fixing soon, getting a 454 to put in garage
www.chevellepages.com/folingo

LX XLR8R · 04-12-2001, 11:07 AM

damn sucks for you..around here when you get a loud exhaust ticket you can allways beet it cuz i never seen a cop do the sound test witch is standing x amount of feet infront of the vehicle and holding the car at x rpms and it has to read more than x amount of db..unless this procedure is done the ticket is nullified..anyways dont worry cuz shops can allways still sell exhaust they just have to be labled as off-road use only..
i think NY allready has that law but im not sure..no one cares

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1987 black notch(ex 4 banger)
DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one..
AIM=onesillynotch

SCOTTLT79 · 04-12-2001, 11:32 AM

This is absolute bullshit. I don't understand these pompous bastards in politics. What is the point of passing a bill like this anyways? If the emissions from the exhaust are legal, I don't see what the problem is. Does anyone know what will happen if you buy a stang with aftermarket exhaust already on it and don't have the stock exhaust? If these jokers think that I'm going to spend money to make my car more quiet, they're more nuts than I thought. I'll just have to move to another state where the representatives aren't such pansies.
Later guys
Scott

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95 Red Mustang GT
Pro 5.0
Mostly stock(looking to modify)

terrible0ne · 04-12-2001, 01:31 PM

What a bout the guys on there harleys theree sh1t is so loud that you have to put your windows up just to talk to someone in the car and that is at idle but they never get messed with.

spinemup · 04-12-2001, 02:26 PM

hey scottlt79!....im from middleboro, what do you drive?, maybe ill se ya around town sometime.

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THE MIGHTY NOTCH
aol instant message= spinemup91

SCOTTLT79 · 04-12-2001, 02:44 PM

Hey spinumup,
I'm from raynham and I drive a '95 red GT with tinted windows and dynomax 3" pipes. I saw some pics of your stang, i must say that it looks nice. I'll keep an eye out for you this summer, I'm at school right now in amherst so I'll be home in late May.

For everyone else, I followed the link in Chevyguys post to email my rep and it's really easy, I suggest that everyone does it as well. Thanks alot guys.
Later
Scott
aol im name: scottlt79

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95 Red Mustang GT
Pro 5.0
Mostly stock(looking to modify)

Chevyguy · 04-12-2001, 03:09 PM

Right on Scott, these guys listen to voters. If we bury them with Emails they will listen.

Here is a list of all the members on the committee working on this bill. If any of you have these reps or Senators representing them double make sure to contact them, they listen to the people who vote for them!!!

hello:
HERE ARE THE EMAIL ADDRESSES OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTE WHO WILL DECIDE THE FATE OF THIS LEGISLATION. IF THIS LEGISLATION BECOMES A LAW- ALL OUR CARS WOULD BE AFFECTED!!!

PLEASE SEND A LETTER (LIKE WHAT I HAVE EMAILED TO YOU)O THESE LEGISLATORS ASKING THEM TO OPPOSE THE IMPEDING LEGISLATION.

THANKS- THE FUTURE OF OUR HOBBY RESTS ON THIS!

dana schaeffer

----Original Message Follows----
From: Steve McDonald
To: "'bearingburners@hotmail.com'"
CC: "'brianc@sema.org'"
Subject: H.B. 3593
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:51:11 -0400
Dana:
As promised, to follow is the contact information for the committee
members. Please have your club members contact these legislators
immediately to request that they OPPOSE H.B. 3593. Thanks for your help.
If you need anything else, please let me know.
Steve McDonald
SEMA
Joint Public Safety Committee Members:
Rep. Bruce Ayers (D)
Room 540
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-2090
Rep.BruceAyers@hou.state.ma.us

Sen. Stephen Brewer (D)
Room 109-B
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-1540
Sbrewer@senate.state.ma.us

Rep. Michael Coppola (R)
Room 540
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-2090
Rep.MichaelCoppola@hou.state.ma.us

Sen. Guy Glodis (D)
Room 413B
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-1485
Gglodis@senate.state.ma.us

Sen. Robert Havern (D)
Room 513
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-1432
Rhavern@senate.state.ma.us

Rep. Bradford Hill (R)
Room 443
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-2460
Rep.BradHill@hou.state.ma.us

Sen. Cheryl Jacques (D)
Room 312-B
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-1555
Cjacques@senate.state.ma.us

Sen. James Jajuga (D)
Room 216
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-1604
JJajuga@senate.state.ma.us

Rep. Elizabeth Malia (D)
Room 540
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-2090
Rep.Elizabeth.Malia@hou.state.ma.us

Rep. Kevin Murphy (D)
Room 39
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-2240
Rep.KevinMurphy@hou.state.ma.us

Rep. David Nangle (D)
Room 448
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-2582
Rep.DavidNangle@hou.state.ma.us

Rep. Robert Nyman (D)
Room 448
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-2582
Rep.RobertNyman@hou.state.ma.us

Rep. Kathi-Anne Reinstein (D)
Room 236
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-2430
Rep.KathiAnneReinstein@hou.state.ma.us

Sen. Jo Ann Sprague (R)
Room 206
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-1222
Jsprague@senate.state.ma.us

Rep. David Sullivan (D)
Room 443
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-2460
Rep.DavidSullivan@hou.state.ma.us

Rep. Walter Timilty (D)
Room 254
State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-2900
Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us

Rep. Timothy Toomey, Jr. (D)

Room 39

State House
Boston, MA 02133
617/722-2230
Rep.TimothyToomey@hou.state.ma.us

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Frank W
90 5.0 LX coupe Daily driver. Silencer removed, K&N filter. Flexalite fan, 3 core radiator. FMS flywheel and Clutch
88 Notch 2.3L 5 speed Parts/beater car

74 Chevy Laguna Type S-3 305 fixing soon, getting a 454 to put in garage
www.chevellepages.com/folingo

04-12-2001, 10:47 AM	#1
Chevyguy Backyard Mechanic/Chemist Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Acton MA USA Posts: 435	MASS exhaust legislation alert !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To all you guys in Mass read this carefully and act immediately and contact your state rep. This must be squashed Legislation has been introduced in the MA House of Representatives (H.B. 3593) that would BAN the sale and installation of modified exhaust systems that result in an increase in exhaust noise over that of a stock exhaust. SEMA is EXTREMELY concerned that this bill would completely eliminate the market for ALL types of modified exhaust systems in Massachusetts and would allow law enforcement officials to make a subjective assessment as to whether or not a system was louder than stock. We encourage you to contact your State Representatives to oppose this bill. If you do not know who your representatives are, please go to http://www.enjoythedrive.com/legisla...legislator.asp PLEASE ACT IMMEDIATELY !!! For more information, please contact Steve McDonald at 202-783-6007 (stevemac@sema.org) ------------------ Frank W 90 5.0 LX coupe Daily driver. Silencer removed, K&N filter. Flexalite fan, 3 core radiator. FMS flywheel and Clutch 88 Notch 2.3L 5 speed Parts/beater car 74 Chevy Laguna Type S-3 305 fixing soon, getting a 454 to put in garage www.chevellepages.com/folingo

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04-12-2001, 11:07 AM	#2
LX XLR8R Dirk Diggler Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: SLOATSBURG, NY Posts: 1,931	damn sucks for you..around here when you get a loud exhaust ticket you can allways beet it cuz i never seen a cop do the sound test witch is standing x amount of feet infront of the vehicle and holding the car at x rpms and it has to read more than x amount of db..unless this procedure is done the ticket is nullified..anyways dont worry cuz shops can allways still sell exhaust they just have to be labled as off-road use only.. i think NY allready has that law but im not sure..no one cares ------------------ 1987 black notch(ex 4 banger) DSS 306 w/ main support...Elderbrock 6028 heads..gt-40 intake..24# injectors...70 mm tb..77 pro-m...accel 300+..mac full legnth..tremec w/ pro5oh...full MAC exhaust,off road h-pipe,long tubes, catback...ron davis radiator..subframes, control arms...CFDF II..o yea holley FPR sucks..dont buy one.. AIM=onesillynotch

04-12-2001, 11:32 AM	#3
SCOTTLT79 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Raynham, Ma, USA Posts: 189	This is absolute bullshit. I don't understand these pompous bastards in politics. What is the point of passing a bill like this anyways? If the emissions from the exhaust are legal, I don't see what the problem is. Does anyone know what will happen if you buy a stang with aftermarket exhaust already on it and don't have the stock exhaust? If these jokers think that I'm going to spend money to make my car more quiet, they're more nuts than I thought. I'll just have to move to another state where the representatives aren't such pansies. Later guys Scott ------------------ 95 Red Mustang GT Pro 5.0 Mostly stock(looking to modify)

04-12-2001, 01:31 PM	#4
terrible0ne Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: elgin ,iL,USA Posts: 36	What a bout the guys on there harleys theree sh1t is so loud that you have to put your windows up just to talk to someone in the car and that is at idle but they never get messed with.

04-12-2001, 02:26 PM	#5
spinemup Registered Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: middleboro,ma, usa Posts: 734	hey scottlt79!....im from middleboro, what do you drive?, maybe ill se ya around town sometime. ------------------ THE MIGHTY NOTCH aol instant message= spinemup91

04-12-2001, 02:44 PM	#6
SCOTTLT79 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Raynham, Ma, USA Posts: 189	Hey spinumup, I'm from raynham and I drive a '95 red GT with tinted windows and dynomax 3" pipes. I saw some pics of your stang, i must say that it looks nice. I'll keep an eye out for you this summer, I'm at school right now in amherst so I'll be home in late May. For everyone else, I followed the link in Chevyguys post to email my rep and it's really easy, I suggest that everyone does it as well. Thanks alot guys. Later Scott aol im name: scottlt79 ------------------ 95 Red Mustang GT Pro 5.0 Mostly stock(looking to modify)

04-12-2001, 03:09 PM	#7
Chevyguy Backyard Mechanic/Chemist Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Acton MA USA Posts: 435	Right on Scott, these guys listen to voters. If we bury them with Emails they will listen. Here is a list of all the members on the committee working on this bill. If any of you have these reps or Senators representing them double make sure to contact them, they listen to the people who vote for them!!! hello: HERE ARE THE EMAIL ADDRESSES OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTE WHO WILL DECIDE THE FATE OF THIS LEGISLATION. IF THIS LEGISLATION BECOMES A LAW- ALL OUR CARS WOULD BE AFFECTED!!! PLEASE SEND A LETTER (LIKE WHAT I HAVE EMAILED TO YOU)O THESE LEGISLATORS ASKING THEM TO OPPOSE THE IMPEDING LEGISLATION. THANKS- THE FUTURE OF OUR HOBBY RESTS ON THIS! dana schaeffer ----Original Message Follows---- From: Steve McDonald To: "'bearingburners@hotmail.com'" CC: "'brianc@sema.org'" Subject: H.B. 3593 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:51:11 -0400 Dana: As promised, to follow is the contact information for the committee members. Please have your club members contact these legislators immediately to request that they OPPOSE H.B. 3593. Thanks for your help. If you need anything else, please let me know. Steve McDonald SEMA Joint Public Safety Committee Members: Rep. Bruce Ayers (D) Room 540 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-2090 Rep.BruceAyers@hou.state.ma.us Sen. Stephen Brewer (D) Room 109-B State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-1540 Sbrewer@senate.state.ma.us Rep. Michael Coppola (R) Room 540 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-2090 Rep.MichaelCoppola@hou.state.ma.us Sen. Guy Glodis (D) Room 413B State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-1485 Gglodis@senate.state.ma.us Sen. Robert Havern (D) Room 513 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-1432 Rhavern@senate.state.ma.us Rep. Bradford Hill (R) Room 443 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-2460 Rep.BradHill@hou.state.ma.us Sen. Cheryl Jacques (D) Room 312-B State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-1555 Cjacques@senate.state.ma.us Sen. James Jajuga (D) Room 216 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-1604 JJajuga@senate.state.ma.us Rep. Elizabeth Malia (D) Room 540 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-2090 Rep.Elizabeth.Malia@hou.state.ma.us Rep. Kevin Murphy (D) Room 39 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-2240 Rep.KevinMurphy@hou.state.ma.us Rep. David Nangle (D) Room 448 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-2582 Rep.DavidNangle@hou.state.ma.us Rep. Robert Nyman (D) Room 448 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-2582 Rep.RobertNyman@hou.state.ma.us Rep. Kathi-Anne Reinstein (D) Room 236 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-2430 Rep.KathiAnneReinstein@hou.state.ma.us Sen. Jo Ann Sprague (R) Room 206 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-1222 Jsprague@senate.state.ma.us Rep. David Sullivan (D) Room 443 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-2460 Rep.DavidSullivan@hou.state.ma.us Rep. Walter Timilty (D) Room 254 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-2900 Rep.WalterTimilty@hou.state.ma.us Rep. Timothy Toomey, Jr. (D) Room 39 State House Boston, MA 02133 617/722-2230 Rep.TimothyToomey@hou.state.ma.us ------------------ Frank W 90 5.0 LX coupe Daily driver. Silencer removed, K&N filter. Flexalite fan, 3 core radiator. FMS flywheel and Clutch 88 Notch 2.3L 5 speed Parts/beater car 74 Chevy Laguna Type S-3 305 fixing soon, getting a 454 to put in garage www.chevellepages.com/folingo