Ati Procharger
 

I own a D-1 procharger, it has a single belt running the blower and accesories. The system originaly came equiped to use the factory 6 rib pulleys but it wouldn't produce but 4-5 lbs of boost. I called ATI and they sent me a smaller pulley, this still didn't help. I figured out the belt was slipping, so they told me to purchase 8- rib pulleys from mikes mustang. The belt continues to slip with very little change in boost level. The system was sold as a 14# kit .I again called AtI and they told me that was on a compelety stock motor, and my motor flowed too well , and then they tell me they are pushing over 20lbs of boost on renegade race cars. I know my motor isn't stock but its not a RENEGADE RACE MOTOR either. ATI makes nothing but excuses for a system that is handicapped by a single drive belt, they use the same boost and horsepower numbers from their kits that use a seperate belt to run the blower. I was fooled into buying a system that wouldn't work on my application, after they got my money and covinced me I needed a 1000 dollar set of pulleys. I think these big companys should properly advertise their systems seperatly and not just throw them alltogether just because they use the same head unit. ATI doesn't care about us little guys who actually pay for our blowers , as long as the top racers are happy and win races with their race stuff they can keep fooling us into buying their street junk that doesn't work. If anyone has had problems with ATI I would like to hear about them and if you found or have any solutions to my problem. In my opinion ATI PROCHARGER SUCKS!!!!!!!!!

:rolleyes: If you only knew how WRONG you were. So ATI is junk because you had one bad experience?? Grow up:mad:

There is a guy at my track...01 GT...3.73's, cold air induction, and an automatic . He has a Procharger P1-SC running 10# of boost. He ran a 12.81@109 on the factory tires . That's not "junk" to me.

You unit is obviously defective. I my 2 years on this site, I can’t recall a single bad post about ATI. They aren’t bad blowers, your just have a fucked up unit.

applications
 

Stang crazy is talking about a 01 with a P series blower ,and my problem is with a 94-95 D-1, totally different application.Its like comparing eric4nitrous car say too doug mangrum theirs no comparson.

Both unit's come from the same company. If the D-1 is junk, then why isn't the P-1 junk also?? They are both produced from the same company. May be a different application but it is still relavent... Anyway, I hope you get your problems worked out because that D-1 can make BIG power. Good Luck :)

Re: Ati Procharger
 

You said ATI sucked altogether. You did not say JUST YOUR PROCHARGER sucks, you generalized it by saying ATI sucked.

And we're here to tell you that you're wrong. Big deal. You have a defective part that you need to replace or you need to change your application. Take it in stride and do what you need to do.:rolleyes:

Re: Ati Procharger
 

Gotta agree with that one. You're not the first person on this board to have a problem with their Procharger, then have a NIGHTMARE of a time trying to get ATI support :rolleyes:

Now, I know PLENTY of folks that have no issues with their unit, but from all the horror stories I've heard, sounds like ATI is just another company that reels you in for the sale, and leaves you high and dry when something goes wrong. Sadly, this is typical nowadays. Business is business....get money first, make customer happy later (never?) I wish you luck with your situation, but please don't yell at our members!! :eek: :(

BTW- Try and contact the MW member Skarodom through the boards. He posted several threads here and on other forums about a faulty unit, and getting the whole roundaround.

THANKS MUSTANGBELLE306
 

Most of these guys complaing don't even have a procharger in their list of mods, and their putting me down and telling me I'm wrong. Buy something with your hard earned money say a new head and cam package ,or anything and not have it perform as advertised you would be upset too when other people look down on you and never walked in your shoes. At least I got one positive comment out this whole thing thanks mustangbelle306.

You don't have to have experience with something to know if it sucks or not. I've never bought anything from Excessive Motorsports, but yeah, they suck. I've never bought a procharger from ATI either, but yeah, they don't suck. You and a couple members (Skaradom and ????) had problems with yours. Ok, there's 2 or 3 members out of 20,000+.

You think I've never bought something with my hard earned money and had it not perform? Well, there was that $1800 I spent on my Currie rear end that sprung a leak when I filled it with oil for the first time. Did I go off the hook, start yelling at people for no reason, and say that Currie sucks? NO! Does every single one of Currie's rear ends leak? Hell no!

You said don't say **** unless you've walked in a man's shoes. What did you just do then? Don't be a ******* hypocrite man. That pisses me of more than anything else.

I think maybe he was just pissy about getting the runaround. I know that things break, mistakes are made, etc. To err is human, right?

But...when the manfacturer either doesn't at least TRY to help me, or brushes me off etc, it drives me up the WALL!!! That has happened to me soooo many times, with parts, my PAINTJOB, etc. We're liable to fly off the handle, cuss the company, their owner....his mother :D...anything! I think he was just upset that Eric told him to grow up right off the bat...he guy was obviously just venting...

That's very understandable he was upset and just venting. He either needs to state things differently or be ready to take some flack when he throws out comments like he did.:rolleyes:

And yeah, that is BS that ATI is dicking him. It's just unfair to them for him to say the company completely sucks because his ONE PART doesn't work right. Why I'm defending ATI, I don't know.

I wasn't the least bit mad or irritated until his last post. That pissed me off. Did I freak out on him? Nope.:rolleyes:

Hey, its cool :) I know you weren't flaming or anything. You were being pretty polite actually :p I just saw that some people jumped him early in the thread, and I felt bad...I know I get really frustrated when companies that cater to their "fellow hobbyists" screw us sideways.

A word from the wise guy.
 

Jason,

First let me say, I'm a fan of the GTS mustangs. Was keeping an
eye out for one, but got a sweet deal on the '97.

Did you get your blower direct from ATI? If you went through a store or catalouge, start with them. Try and return the unit as defective.

If you went directly through ATI, and don't get satisfaction, request to talk to a supervisor or service manager. Let them know you are upset, and will contact the better buisness bureau in their state. Trust me, buisnesses don't like getting a bad rep from them. Enough and they can lose a retail license.

There is good feedback available around here, even from people who don't have exactly the same setup as you. One of the best people to talk to here, doesn't even have a Mustang. Doesn't mean he doesn't understand them. Personally, if you only want info from people who have what you do, good luck finding a mechanic.;)

Just sit back, relax and get to know the board. I saw Capri warned you about language, and I'd hate to see you get banned 'cuz this is the place to be. Welcome, and good luck with ATI.

By the way, the 'Performance Industry' board was set up for just this kind of problem. Might be better dropped in there next time, although the response is a little slower.

6T9PONY
 

This problem has been going on for 4 years , they gave me the run around until my warrenty was up, the unit was last returned about 2 months ago and they wanted to rebuild it.The head unit has less than 500 miles on it , its been nothing but trouble .The tech guys give false info on this paticular set up not on the head unit itself. If they would have been honest up front and told me I needed to ditch accesories or switch to a 86-93 pulley setup that would have been fine, but I was told it would work on my specific application and it doesn't. I don't mind making changes to adapt to make a new product, but this is 4 years of lies and deception. Maybe other 94-95 D-1 owners aren't trying to produce the horsepower that I I'm. My car has the following mods,TRICK FLOW INTAKE,STAGE 2 VICTOR JR. HEADS, DSS 306 PRO SHORTBLOCK,50#INJECTORS,A COMPLETE AEROMOTIVE FUEL SYSTEM,CAM MOTION CAM, 86-93 COMPUTER CONVERSION HARNESS,MSD6AL, TREMEC TKO TRANSMISSION, LONG TUBE MAC HEADERS,OFF-ROAD H-PIPE,3.73 GEARS, 6 POINT ROLL CAGE,FLOWMASTER MUFFLERS .This is not a weak *** setup, and the charger isn't holding its own because of belt slippage, it might work on a milder combo, but I told ATI every mod I did and they assured me the system would work. Now they tell me my motor flows too well and they advertise boost numbers on stock motors. I purchased direct from ATI to avoid thi crap and I still got it. If ATI would have been honest from the start I would not have purchased this system, they told me what they had too to make the sale' NOW WHO'S WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

I'm kind of curious about this comment: 'Its like comparing eric4nitrous car say too doug mangrum theirs no comparson.'
It seems to me that Eric's car has a certified chassis, a motor of the same caliber, and runs numbers that would be competitive in Pro5.0...

Just a little FYI. I was talking to a guy at Sacramento Mustang today (they sell and install hi-po Mustang parts) and asked him about install costs for ProChargers because I am interested in one for my '00 GT. He told me he has had a lot of problems with them in the past and recommended Vortech or Powerdyne. I'm just wondering if he said this because they are not an ATI dealer or if they have really encountered quality and customer service issues before???

It was just a smart *** saying , because he said I was wrong for what I said in my post. Doug mangrum runs a procharger, and he was taking up for a company that he doesn't even run their product. Just catching back.

ATI Quality
 

I can't say anything about the quality it seems to be pretty good ,it's just my particular year car has limitied room forcing the use of a single belt. In lower horse applications it might work,but in mine it doesn't .My combo should have no problem putting 550-600 horses to the wheels if the blower belt could hagin and not slip.My car made 470 horses at the wheels at 4900 rps and slowly started to fall because of belt slippage, this test was performed on CHRIS JOHNSONS DYNO in MOBILE ALA.

Re: 6T9PONY
 

WTF is this "Who's wrong?" bull ****? You titled that post to me and what the hell kind of a point are you trying to make? I said yes, it is crap that ATI is dicking you around like they are. That does suck. But ATI does not suck all around. You finally got that through your head when you said the quality seems to be pretty good. The ATI product is fine. It's just a problem because you can't get the belt to stop slipping. It is their fault because they didn't tell you that you'd have this problem, but their part is perfectly ******* fine.

So, what am I wrong about again?:rolleyes:

6T9PONY
 

When I purchased the system, I didn't just purchase the head unit. It was supposed to be a complete system that could produce 15-22 lbs on my application. This is supposed to be a tested system, not just a single part that works best with a 12 rib or cog belt.The Head UNIT was advertised not the whole kit. I think they should give figures on each application not just on the ideal situations. These matched componets should wok as advetised for this application not on everyother application,I have a 95 mustang , give me real boost level figuries on my set up not on the perfect 12 rib or cog set up. I could see this being my problem if I just purchased the HEAD UNIT and tried to make my own brackets, pulleys,etc.,but I didn't. I bought an enginnered group of componets that cannot work together properly to take advantage of the D-1 head unit. Misleading advetising, tech guys, AtI not wanting to lose a sale THAT SUCKS!!!!! And if you don't agree with me than stop answering my posts.

I wonder if his mommy knows he's online right now?? :D I think i hear his mommy calling him..better run Jason, she's gotta dress you for work. Have a nice day. ;)

eric4nitrous
 

That really shows how much of an idiot you are ,I'm not even going to get pissed , you HAVE A NICE DAY ***** BOY. HUGGS AND KISSES YOU JR 5.0 WANTABE

Out of line dude, bad form

Well this thread looked like it was starting to be nice but then it got all nasty again. i dont really want to get involved in this but unless you can run better than eric, i dont think you have any right calling him a JR 5.0 wanabe.

BAKE
 

Read ERICS message, he wants to play ,I didn't start it he did, I'm not going to hold my tounge , He needs to GROW UP.

If Eric sends anymore negative comments I won't respond, every time I go back at him everybody comes down on me .You WIN ERIC.

I hope you're having a nice day DARK 5.0,I really appreciate your input in this situation,I hope to get many more great ideas from you ,once again thank you and have a NICE DAY. Is it allright if I put you on my buddy list?

Bring this to e-mail or PM
You're getting nothing accomplised with either of your threads, and you lost the point of the original topic, if you want to have a internet fight with Eric, then email him instead of letting the whole board know about it!
http://www.joe4speed.com/smart.jpg

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do love the diagrams our members occasionally post. I still remember the one about the dash pad :D

Thank you 4peedjoe and mustangbelle, the info you have given me has been very help ful.

Well, I just wanted to give back to you some of the FANTASTIC information you have given us on these two threads! Get over it dude! Let it go already. :rolleyes:

Re: 6T9PONY
 

I did agree with you. Did you not read my post? ATI did dick you around and they lied to you. I've said that THREE TIMES now! The parts are not defective though. They are not producing numbers like they were advertised, but that's because of belt slippage. The parts are fine. That was my point. The quality of the products is just frickin fine. And 8 or 9 times out of 10 people will be satisfied with their setups after intalling an ATI.

So stop trying to start **** up again and try to comprehend what I post before you respond and tell me I'm wrong again.:rolleyes:

6T9PONY
 

If the belt is going to slip and only allow the system produce 8-9 lbs of boost instead of the advertised 15-22 lbs of boost I personally think it should be sold as a 8-9 pound kit instead of the falsely advertised 15-22lb kit, ATI states boost levels that can only be achived under perfect conditions , 12-rib or cog belt.You can have your opinion , and I can have mine,I have a 95 gts with a procharger, you have a69 mustang, It's easy to say theres nothing wrong with the system but it was sold to me ,not you , so back off 6t9pony.

No, nothing is wrong with your ******* belt. It was FALSELY ADVERTISED like you said. The belt is fine. And what difference does it make if it was sold to you, me, or someone else? Same damn problem either way.
Ooooooooh, ahhhh. You have a procharger. You're a GOD! Hmmmm. Not really. What's your point? You're not really coming off as the smartest person to me. You throw out pointless and redundant comments.

I know cars. Just because you have one that makes good power numbers (although, not up to par because of the belt slippage:rolleyes: ) and is faster than mine, doesn't make you frickin special. I've built two '69 Mustangs from the ground up, basically by myself, and I'm not quite 18 years old yet.

Yes, we each have our own opinion. I just wish you'd realize that if you took that system you have and threw it on a compatable engine that didn't have any space problems it would make the advertised boost numbers. What does it have to do with who it was sold to?

Will you just let it frickin go. I've made my final point about 3 times now, but yet you have to keep throwing stuff out.

And you're the one that posted this thread, but yet you're telling me to back off?:rolleyes:

I don't have a powerful car, and I'm not looking down on you, I like 69 mustangs,I stated an opinion and it got out of hand 'I' m sorry I offended everyone.I was looking for other 95 owners with D-1 chargers to see if they had experienced the same problems that I'm having. I guess this forum doesn't have the answers to my questions.