Not very happy

PKRWUD · 09-18-2002, 06:39 AM

Well, I'm pretty pissed off. It seems there is a major corporation that owns close to half of the radio stations nationwide, and they have decided it would be nice to have an outdoor concert venue built at the Ventura Fairgrounds. The problem is, however, that there is no room. They have been trying for years to get the fairboard to not renew the lease for Ventura Raceway, the only racetrack of it's kind for over 100 miles in any direction, and demolish it so that they can build their theater. Each year, the fairboard always renews the contract with the racetrack, and all is well.

This year, however, the Governor is up for re-election, and the big-bucks company has become a major contributor to Gov. Davis' re-election campaign. Why is that important? Because in the past few months, the Governor himself has personally appointed 6 new members to the 9 member fairboard, and they are all outspoken against the racetrack.

The vote was to be held yesterday, but so many members of the public showed up in favor of keeping the track, that they postponed the vote for one month. The bottom line is that we are going to lose our racetrack, and it's all because of money. The city will lose money, and the best family entertainment value it has, but that doesn't seem to matter. It just makes me sick.

I love this town more than any other place I have ever been, but crap like this just kills me. Ventura Raceway has been a major part of the community, and a place where families gather on Saturday nights, for over 25 years. This town already has a major concert venue, The Ventura Theater, which has been around forever, and regularly hosts major bands. A new theater is not needed.

Anyway, I just needed to vent about it.

Thanks.

Take care,
~Chris

cyberstang5.0 · 09-18-2002, 07:32 AM

That's stupid. I would protest. I can't stand ppl that do stuff because of money that destroys "historical" stuff. I was even opposed to the new baseball and football stadium here in Houston. But since I'm only one in a few million, my vote doesn't really count that much

Maroon 5.0 LX · 09-18-2002, 09:15 AM

As a former professional pilot, the same situation angers me about small airports. Some have been around for ages, such as your track. The counties issue building permits to build subdivisions at the end of the existing runways.

Stupid people buy these houses without knowing there is an airport there, and then complain about the noise, close proximity to the end of the runways and other stuff.

The next thing you know, they try to close down the airport. They don't build too many small airports anymore, as the cost of land is out of sight. As your track, these businesses bring in a lot of money and offer employment, but it seems the tax base means more to the politicians. Too many politicians are using their personal agends while in office, instead of what the people want. Just another way for them to get fat.

The Deuce · 09-18-2002, 10:54 AM

I'm with you agaisnt that company. They own a couple of the stations I used to listen to in SB, and some more that I listen to out of San Diego.

Davis is a moron, and obviously his politcal linings are against motors of any kind. We need to write your congressman, as I am drafting a letter to the distric reps for Carlsbad. I've got a bad feeling that track is going to be on the outs soon too.

And people wonder why street racing is a problem.

Hammer · 09-18-2002, 11:03 AM

Hey Maroon,

Is Lee Field still around in Edgewater?
(Just south of Annapolis)

If you're a pilot and want to get to Annapolis via a small field, that's pretty much the place...

Maroon 5.0 LX · 09-18-2002, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hammer
Hey Maroon,

Is Lee Field still around in Edgewater?
(Just south of Annapolis)

If you're a pilot and want to get to Annapolis via a small field, that's pretty much the place...

I think it's still operating, been a few years since I've been there.

andy669 · 09-18-2002, 03:17 PM

Chris At first this sounded like the work of Cumulus Media, but a search of them showed they arent that big in California. They are the a holes who bought out Connoissuer Communications a few years ago and eliminated Howard Stern from this area.

Maroon The situation you are describing with the airports is identical to what has happened at Byron Dragway. Anyone who's ever been there is familiar with the 6 pm curfew.

Andy

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 09-18-2002, 04:18 PM

It is probably Clear Channel.

Damn Democrats! Where is MR. 5.0 when you need him to yell at the democrats lol.

Duece they have been threatening to tear down Carlsbad for who knows how long. I can remember JBA protesting that 4-5 years ago.

Im sorry to hear that Chris, you sound like you have an awesome time with that sprint car team

Later,
Nick

09-18-2002, 04:59 PM

dude that sucks. hopefully you all will be able to keep the track

PKRWUD · 09-18-2002, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MidNiteBlu 5.0
It is probably Clear Channel.

I think you may be correct. That name sure sounds right. Bastards.

HotRoddin · 09-18-2002, 11:41 PM

Pkrwud i've watched them tear down Lions drag strip ... Irwindale Raceway ... Orange County International Raceway ... Riverside International Raceway ... Ontario Motor Speedway ... and they have pretty much stopped everything at Pamona except the Winternationals. I feel your pain !!!
I cannot understand for the life of me why the hell someone would buy a house right next to a dragstrip or racetrack and then turn around and complain about the noise ????

silver_pilate · 09-19-2002, 12:03 AM

That sucks, man.

I've always thought Davis was a *******' idiot. Just a little puppet who thinks he knows what he's doing. In reality he's just a pawn for any liberal outlyer who wants to pull some strings.

--nathan

Crazy Horse GT · 09-19-2002, 12:45 AM

clear channel bought just about, every radio station around here, who are these clown's, what happened to the monoply law?

DRASTiK · 09-19-2002, 01:56 AM

A very similar thing happened here a few years back. Now the Yuma Speedway dirt track just sits and collects dust. Some rich snob bought it just so no one would use it.

Coupe Devil · 09-19-2002, 02:37 AM

Move here, we have two nice round track facilities within 30 minutes of my house and within 30 minutes of each other. Great action at both places.

Bradley

PKRWUD · 09-19-2002, 03:01 AM

How about you move the tracks here.

Okay, how about just one?

Take care,
~Chris

MTU 50 · 09-19-2002, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by silver_pilate
That sucks, man.

I've always thought Davis was a *******' idiot. Just a little puppet who thinks he knows what he's doing. In reality he's just a pawn for any liberal outlyer who wants to pull some strings.

--nathan

That sums up how I feel about Davis too. Complete liberal scum.

I believe MM&FF talked about people who live in newer subdivisions near Englishtown wanting to shut down the track. Even though the racetrack has been there since the 60's, long before some yahoo decided to build his 3 bedroom castle next door.

People are morons.

MidNiteBlu 5.0 · 09-19-2002, 12:40 PM

People are idiots when it comes to complaining about noise when the track or w/e was THERE BEFORE THEY MOVED THERE.

I can remember people bitching and moaning about all the helicopter noise from Miramar when the marines moved in. Now this Base has been a Naval Air Station and fighter pilot training base long before anyone started living near it. IF YOU DONT WANT NOISE DONT MOVE NEXT TO A ******* MILITARY BASE STUPID ***.

sorry had to vent lol

Later,
Nick

09-18-2002, 06:39 AM	#1
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	Not very happy Well, I'm pretty pissed off. It seems there is a major corporation that owns close to half of the radio stations nationwide, and they have decided it would be nice to have an outdoor concert venue built at the Ventura Fairgrounds. The problem is, however, that there is no room. They have been trying for years to get the fairboard to not renew the lease for Ventura Raceway, the only racetrack of it's kind for over 100 miles in any direction, and demolish it so that they can build their theater. Each year, the fairboard always renews the contract with the racetrack, and all is well. This year, however, the Governor is up for re-election, and the big-bucks company has become a major contributor to Gov. Davis' re-election campaign. Why is that important? Because in the past few months, the Governor himself has personally appointed 6 new members to the 9 member fairboard, and they are all outspoken against the racetrack. The vote was to be held yesterday, but so many members of the public showed up in favor of keeping the track, that they postponed the vote for one month. The bottom line is that we are going to lose our racetrack, and it's all because of money. The city will lose money, and the best family entertainment value it has, but that doesn't seem to matter. It just makes me sick. I love this town more than any other place I have ever been, but crap like this just kills me. Ventura Raceway has been a major part of the community, and a place where families gather on Saturday nights, for over 25 years. This town already has a major concert venue, The Ventura Theater, which has been around forever, and regularly hosts major bands. A new theater is not needed. Anyway, I just needed to vent about it. Thanks. Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

09-18-2002, 09:15 AM	#3
Maroon 5.0 LX Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Southern Maryland Posts: 471	As a former professional pilot, the same situation angers me about small airports. Some have been around for ages, such as your track. The counties issue building permits to build subdivisions at the end of the existing runways. Stupid people buy these houses without knowing there is an airport there, and then complain about the noise, close proximity to the end of the runways and other stuff. The next thing you know, they try to close down the airport. They don't build too many small airports anymore, as the cost of land is out of sight. As your track, these businesses bring in a lot of money and offer employment, but it seems the tax base means more to the politicians. Too many politicians are using their personal agends while in office, instead of what the people want. Just another way for them to get fat. __________________ '89 LX 5.0 - 5 speed. Original Owner '94 E-150 4.9 Hi-Top Conversion Van '06 Mustang V-6, 5 speed

09-18-2002, 10:54 AM	#4
The Deuce Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,325	I'm with you agaisnt that company. They own a couple of the stations I used to listen to in SB, and some more that I listen to out of San Diego. Davis is a moron, and obviously his politcal linings are against motors of any kind. We need to write your congressman, as I am drafting a letter to the distric reps for Carlsbad. I've got a bad feeling that track is going to be on the outs soon too. And people wonder why street racing is a problem. __________________ 1997 Mustang GT "The Freak" - 13.80 @ 101.70, 2.07 60' 1995 Honda VFR750 - not much @ really fast (actual data pending.) 1964.5 Mustang 289 Rice Haters Club Member #13

09-18-2002, 11:03 AM	#5
Hammer AKA "Dr. Evil" Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: South Fork Ranch Posts: 1,721	Hey Maroon, Is Lee Field still around in Edgewater? (Just south of Annapolis) If you're a pilot and want to get to Annapolis via a small field, that's pretty much the place... __________________ Uncle Sam "What the hell is up with all the gauges? Calling Captain Kirk, your ride awaits... Phasers on stun...."

09-18-2002, 03:17 PM	#7
andy669 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Moline Il Posts: 901	Chris At first this sounded like the work of Cumulus Media, but a search of them showed they arent that big in California. They are the a holes who bought out Connoissuer Communications a few years ago and eliminated Howard Stern from this area. Maroon The situation you are describing with the airports is identical to what has happened at Byron Dragway. Anyone who's ever been there is familiar with the 6 pm curfew. Andy __________________ 88 coupe 91 LX NMRA Pure Street 5120

09-18-2002, 07:32 AM	#2
cyberstang5.0 347ci of HORSE POWER!!! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,416	That's stupid. I would protest. I can't stand ppl that do stuff because of money that destroys "historical" stuff. I was even opposed to the new baseball and football stadium here in Houston. But since I'm only one in a few million, my vote doesn't really count that much

09-18-2002, 04:18 PM	#8
MidNiteBlu 5.0 I got something to say Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,557	It is probably Clear Channel. Damn Democrats! Where is MR. 5.0 when you need him to yell at the democrats lol. Duece they have been threatening to tear down Carlsbad for who knows how long. I can remember JBA protesting that 4-5 years ago. Im sorry to hear that Chris, you sound like you have an awesome time with that sprint car team Later, Nick __________________ 91 LX Hatch 5.0 - made for the twisties 89 LX Hatchback 5.0 5spd. stolen/stripped 4/7/05 http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?3494 1987 Toyota Pickup Ricer Haters Club Member #33 Want a custom gauge cluster for your Vintage Mustang? www.jmeenterprises.com

09-18-2002, 04:59 PM	#9
digital3.3 Guest Posts: n/a	dude that sucks. hopefully you all will be able to keep the track

09-18-2002, 11:41 PM	#11
HotRoddin cranky old man Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Longview Texas Posts: 683	Pkrwud i've watched them tear down Lions drag strip ... Irwindale Raceway ... Orange County International Raceway ... Riverside International Raceway ... Ontario Motor Speedway ... and they have pretty much stopped everything at Pamona except the Winternationals. I feel your pain !!! I cannot understand for the life of me why the hell someone would buy a house right next to a dragstrip or racetrack and then turn around and complain about the noise ????

09-19-2002, 12:03 AM	#12
silver_pilate DURKA DURKA!! Join Date: Sep 1997 Location: Lubbock, TX...(TX panhandle) Posts: 1,418	That sucks, man. I've always thought Davis was a *****' idiot. Just a little puppet who thinks he knows what he's doing. In reality he's just a pawn for any liberal outlyer who wants to pull some strings. --nathan __________________ '91 GT, Coast 347, 9.5:1 compression, full intake, Wolverine 1087 cam, exhaust, Keith Craft ported Windsor Jr. Irons (235 cfm intake, 195 cfm exhaust), AOD, PI 3500 converter, Lentech valve body, 3.73's (4.10's in the works), and Yokohama ES100's out back. Daily Car:** '04 Infiniti G35 Sedan 6MT

09-19-2002, 12:45 AM	#13
Crazy Horse GT Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sale Creek, TN. C. S. A. Posts: 4,652	clear channel bought just about, every radio station around here, who are these clown's, what happened to the monoply law? __________________ 95 gt vert, lot's of stuff, it aint slow. 04 sonic blue v - six my beater 89 rs camaro iroc turbo hood, other stuff, my wifes ride 84 lx stang cammed up 289 hi po, etc 65 falcon, maybe by the year 2020. black 00gt, gone but never forgotten. R H C- member # 1 o.b.c. da prez- member # 1 if your under 40 dont ask. goodbye for now odie,r.i.p. 11-27-03

09-19-2002, 01:56 AM	#14
DRASTiK Registered Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 536	A very similar thing happened here a few years back. Now the Yuma Speedway dirt track just sits and collects dust. Some rich snob bought it just so no one would use it.

09-19-2002, 02:37 AM	#15
Coupe Devil Moderator Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Myrtle Beach SC Posts: 1,643	Move here, we have two nice round track facilities within 30 minutes of my house and within 30 minutes of each other. Great action at both places. Bradley __________________ 1990 GT, 347, TFS TW Heads, TFS Cam, TFS Track heat, Twin turbos, FMIC, T5. Built Ford Tough Moderator

09-19-2002, 03:01 AM	#16
PKRWUD Junior Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Ventura, California Posts: 8,981	How about you move the tracks here. Okay, how about just one? Take care, ~Chris __________________ Webmaster: Rice Haters Club Jim Porter Racing Peckerwoods Pit Stop Support Your Local RED & WHITE!

09-19-2002, 12:40 PM	#18
MidNiteBlu 5.0 I got something to say Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,557	People are idiots when it comes to complaining about noise when the track or w/e was THERE BEFORE THEY MOVED THERE. I can remember people bitching and moaning about all the helicopter noise from Miramar when the marines moved in. Now this Base has been a Naval Air Station and fighter pilot training base long before anyone started living near it. IF YOU DONT WANT NOISE DONT MOVE NEXT TO A ***** MILITARY BASE STUPID *. sorry had to vent lol Later, Nick __________________ 91 LX Hatch 5.0 - made for the twisties 89 LX Hatchback 5.0 5spd. stolen/stripped 4/7/05 http://www.mustangworks.com/cgi-bin/...splay.cgi?3494 1987 Toyota Pickup Ricer Haters Club Member #33 Want a custom gauge cluster for your Vintage Mustang? www.jmeenterprises.com

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