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NOTCH306 06-07-2005 06:26 PM

Boss Shinoda
 
Was there really boss shinoda mustangs every produce? I've seen cars around with the strickers before but did larry shinoda every really produce any real cars?? i would like know the turth and history and every else behind this boss mustangs.
Brian

Unit 5302 06-07-2005 10:50 PM

Re: Boss Shinoda
 
Not since the early 70's was an official Boss Mustang in production.

Mr 5 0 06-08-2005 04:24 PM

Re: Boss Shinoda
 
Unlike Carroll Shelby, Larry Shinoda never had his own production facility. The Boss Shinoda 429 - a '94 Mustang with a 429 that was loaded with performance options and ran low 11's in the quarter - was designed and developed by Larry Shinoda. Unfortunately, the 429 Shinoda Mustang had a fantasyland price tag, making it more dream than reality. Basically, it was a 'concept car'.

However, there was also a limited edition, 5.0-powered version of the 'Boss Shinoda' that actually was sold in Ford showrooms a decade ago and is still around, today.

FYI: Larry Shinoda died in 1997 at age 67.

Here's a link to the '94 'Boss Shinoda' 429 specs and an owner's 302 Boss Shinoda Mustang that you might find interesting:

http://www.streetclassics.com/mustangs/boss1.htm

Unit 5302 06-08-2005 10:59 PM

Re: Boss Shinoda
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr 5 0
Unlike Carroll Shelby, Larry Shinoda never had his own production facility. The Boss Shinoda 429 - a '94 Mustang with a 429 that was loaded with performance options and ran low 11's in the quarter - was designed and developed by Larry Shinoda. Unfortunately, the 429 Shinoda Mustang had a fantasyland price tag, making it more dream than reality. Basically, it was a 'concept car'.

However, there was also a limited edition, 5.0-powered version of the 'Boss Shinoda' that actually was sold in Ford showrooms a decade ago and is still around, today.

FYI: Larry Shinoda died in 1997 at age 67.

Here's a link to the '94 'Boss Shinoda' 429 specs and an owner's 302 Boss Shinoda Mustang that you might find interesting:

http://www.streetclassics.com/mustangs/boss1.htm

You mean the Boss 604? Hehe. They punched that 429 out to 604ci, and mated it to a C-6 automatic to handle the 800lb/ft of torque it made. It was built to answer the challenge of aa 572ci Camaro produced by the Bowtie guys. I believe both cars broke before the complete test was done, but it was obvious the Boss was a superior vehicle. It took out the engine during some hot laps at a road course. The deep sump oil pan allowed the engine oil to slosh too far to one side and starved the pickup tube, if I recall correctly. Really cool concept, though. I wonder what Ford could really do with a 427, 428 or 429 these days.

Mr 5 0 06-10-2005 03:28 PM

Re: Boss Shinoda
 
I read (in a newspaper article) awhile back that Ford engineers have stated that producing high HP engines that are fairly docile to maintain is no longer a real challenge. They said that with FI, ECM, turbo technology and the rest of the computerized wonders they have available now, 700+ HP is both possible and feasible in a factory-warranted engine under 300 cubic inches. As always, the kind of heavy duty drivetrain and suspension that would be necessary to handle such massive HP would not be feasible to produce at a reasonable price, making such extremely high HP numbers unlikely to show up in a future Ford Explorer - or even a Mustang.

However, the 300+ HP often found under the hood of today's 'Soccer Mom's' SUV and in the luxury class 'sport sedans' available shows that higher HP vehicles - most with relatively small displacement engines - are quite acceptable to the masses. That being the case, 500+ HP high-performance vehicles (besides the Corvette and other sport car 'exotics') are possible in the fairly near future in selected models of some of the pricier sedans, if not the Mustang. All this progress in the HP game kind of makes the old mega-cube, highly modified, temperamental and often unreliable high-HP engines of yesteryear seem a bit outdated but still interesting for the effort made on them with what technology and equipment was available at the time. Much like the Offenhauser engines that once totally dominated Indy Racing, the mega-cube V-8's of the recent past are always worth a look back to see where we've been and how far we've come with internal combustion engine technology and the ability to put massive amounts of HP under a driver's right foot with a relatively small and reliable engine doing the work. I think that Larry Shinoda would be pleased. :)

Of course, should gasoline prices ever get too high or an actual long-term gas shortage develops, all bets are off.

Dark_5.0 06-11-2005 11:43 AM

Re: Boss Shinoda
 
There is a Boss 99-04 mustang but it is a dealer appearance package.

The one I seen was white with a black hood scoop and a black spoiler with a black decal package. The guy was claiming it was faster than a "regular GT" I pulled the vin# and it is just a regular GT.

Rev 06-12-2005 05:49 PM

Re: Boss Shinoda
 
It's always been the same, since the 50's anyway, if the ordinary speed shops can produce an engine of a certain power/displacement, then the factory guys can always do it too if they really want to. Seems that the magic number is 1-1.2 hp/cid normally aspirated. Add for the boost.

Rev


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