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NTIMD8 05-11-2001 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by 2FastLX:
Isn't this just like a Chevy guy?? Start a fight then tuck tail and run http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/tongue.gif

I have my opinions on those new F-bodied card. I think the "F" stands for "F$#ked". They look like a door stop with that sloping shape they have and I wouldn't even care to own one if it were half the price of a new Mustang (not exaggerating a bit).

I raced an LS1 the other day. Hell, I thought it was a Probe sitting next to me because I couldn't see very much of it other than the slope and mirror on the door. When the light turned green I gave him about a car length head start (still thinking it was a Probe) and then gave it hell. It was at that moment I realized it was a Slomaro and was pi$$ed at myself for not taking him off the line. Anyway, by the time I hit 3rd gear I was gaining on him a little, and he was still only a car length ahead of me.

We stopped to talk and he said he paid $27,000 for that car. I have $10,000 wrapped up in mine and I know I'd have smoked him if I was prepared.

Pay close to $30k for a rattle box, or find a sweet looking Fox body for $4k and dump $6k into it and see who wins. I guarantee you the Mustang will every time. Plus, the chicks around here dig the Stangs more.


I would like to personaly thank you for wasting 1 minute of my life while reading your garbage. You owe me 1 minute of my life back.

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2FastLX 05-12-2001 01:52 AM

Well sorry for wasting a whole minute of your life, but I'll bet changing plugs in your car has wasted a lot more than that.

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joe4speed 05-12-2001 02:53 AM

I like anything that flies... I'll have respect for the Mustang, the GM, and the Import that flies.. It's pretty impressive to see those little cars fly when they're real fast.
But to me, I'm one of those Race-anything-that-moves Mustang owners! I just love the speed! When I want more speed I run the Ninja!

Cliff made some good points too...!!

Wanna race...? http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/wink.gif

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Steve2000SS 05-12-2001 02:17 PM

Just when you start thinking Most mustang owners are cool.. along comes 2FASTLX with the usual load of horse $hit.. I always love the new $30k car vs buying the 15year old car and putting the $$ into it.. anyone can buy ANY car for $4k and put $20k into mods and kill all our collective a$$es.. whats your point?? Ive seen Pro Street Pintos that could kick your butt, does that mean the pinto is a better car? get a clue.. And I love how when some says "i know an fbody guy that has nothing but trouble with his car" that is usually some poor guy with an 80's model.. who the hell made good cars in the 80's??

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jimberg 05-12-2001 02:27 PM

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who the hell made good cars in the 80's??
Ford did. I'm driving one. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

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2FastLX 05-12-2001 03:11 PM

I am an EX Slomaro owner so I'm not basing my opinion on what I THINK. I know what kinda quality GM puts into their cars. I bought a brand new Slomaro in 89 and it was in the shop more than it was on the road. Out of the 3 months I owned it it was in the shop for almost 2 of them. Now, I'm not basing that opinion on just one car. I've owned several GM products, and several Ford products. In my past experiences the GM cars didn't impress me much, except for the 67 Chevelle SS I once owned which was a nice car.

I have a suggestion, go back to your own boards and quit coming here talking smack unless you can handle similar responses without crying and whining about it. Boo hoo.

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Unit 5302 05-12-2001 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by MonsterTrosity:
...I'd have to say that my CRX is much faster, which doesn't say much compared to a v6... So, IMHO, a ricer won't last long on the strip, even though they are fast... Auto-x is alot of fun, and takes a fairly skilled driver to do it well. This is where the CRX, and my Porsche 914 is superior. Don't even come near me in any of your Vettes, Cobras, etc. with those on the auto-x course http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/wink.gif. TBH, I was fairly impressed that my stock '95 Mustang could hold it's own on a corner. Big difference from early models.
Damn... so much to address in this.

What do you have done to the CRX? I'm sorry, but those cars are not straight line beastie's by any means in stock form. I used to whoop them silly in my Mustang II. Granted the II was way lighter than your car, but it had less power. The CRX is a nice 17sec car without mods.

Ricer's are not fast. You need a V-8, baaaaddd.

The CRX is nowhere near a 914 for cornering performance. Anybody lumping those two into the same comparision doesn't know how to drive either one.

Anybody who cannot slaughter a CRX with a Mustang Cobra stock for stock on a auto-x course needs to give me their car. As far as the 914, it would depend on just how tight the course is. The 914 featured a terribly underpowered Volkswagen engine, a little better if it was a Series IV or modded with a turbo off a 911, but the 914 lacked braking capacity too. Unless you switch over to the 911's stuff. The 914 is super light, and super close to the ground, they corner excellent, but everything else is lacking without mods.

Compared to older Mustang??? Like what, a 1965-1978? Sorry to tell you this, but the V-6 corners like **** compared to the GT's, even the Fox GT's will outcorner a SN95 V-6 hardcore.

Token Right Guy 05-12-2001 06:47 PM

originally posted by UNIT 5302:
..."What do you have done to the CRX? I'm sorry, but those cars are not straight line beastie's by any means in stock form. I used to whoop them silly in my Mustang II. Granted the II was way lighter than your car, but it had less power. The CRX is a nice 17sec car without mods."...

Huh? Mustang II lighter than a CRX? My CRX Si, with A/C weighs under 2100 lbs. It's not a stoplight terror, you're right about that. It isn't supposed to be. Stock CRX 1/4 mile times are in the low to mid 16 range.
If you don't think a CRX Si can't show its taillights to a 914 on an autocross course, well that's your opinion & you're entitled to it. I've driven both, & I know the truth.
You also said "ricers are not fast". No kidding. That does not mean that all imports are slow, though. Also you said "you need a V8, baaad". Maybe he has a V8 as well. You're allowed to own more than one car.
We now return you to your 'Ford vs. Chevy' debate. Thanks for listening.

NTIMD8 05-12-2001 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 2FastLX:
I am an EX Slomaro owner so I'm not basing my opinion on what I THINK. I know what kinda quality GM puts into their cars. I bought a brand new Slomaro in 89 and it was in the shop more than it was on the road. Out of the 3 months I owned it it was in the shop for almost 2 of them. Now, I'm not basing that opinion on just one car. I've owned several GM products, and several Ford products. In my past experiences the GM cars didn't impress me much, except for the 67 Chevelle SS I once owned which was a nice car.

I have a suggestion, go back to your own boards and quit coming here talking smack unless you can handle similar responses without crying and whining about it. Boo hoo.


the poor build quality exists in the 3rd gen but the 4th gen is a vast improvment. As far as Camaros being Slomaros??? The fact is stock for stock a 4th gen is faster then 90% of the stock stangs. So what does that say about the mustang? Ya thats what I thought. You are truly ignorant.


Steve2000SS 05-12-2001 09:34 PM

Actually you were the one talking smack.. and the previous guy is right.. an LS1 in no more a "slomaro" than a 4.6 mustang is a "rustang".. name calling is for little kids.. You have a "too many mods to list" and you manage a 13.7 1/4 mile?.. So if my low 13 sec Camaro is slow then what are you? and I hardly have any mods.. as for Ford build quality I had a 88 GT and a 95GT.. both had there share of problems but I didnt mind because they are fun cars.. I know some guys with fbods that have small warranty probs but there are quite a few (like myself) that have had no probs (cept with mods).. If build quality is you mantra then go by a honda..

Jimberg ~ Im sure your car is great.. but you would have to agree that the 80's (not as bad as the 70's) were not the higth of american car quality.

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320rwhp & 333rwtq corrected SAE

Mach 1 05-13-2001 06:31 AM

The simple fact that a chevy guy has to come here to try to boost his ego speaks for itself. If your so happy with your camaro's, why do you need our opinion or approval? Go out and get waxed by a few 5.0 fox bodies then come back home, if you dont need the tow truck.

We all like Fords better, for whatever our reasons are, it doesnt matter, does it? Its a passion, and this argument could go on forever, so sometimes its pointless to start something like this.

My .02.

GM has the worst build quality in the world (except maybe the Koreans)so if that is what you like, more power to you. Do I think Ford is the best car on the road? No way, not a chance. Do I think Fords are superior to anything GM makes? Without a doubt.

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jimberg 05-13-2001 09:06 AM

If I could afford it, I would probably buy a BMW M5 for driving around town.

The Mustang would still be my project car.

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dinomite 05-13-2001 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by Token Right Guy:

Huh? Mustang II lighter than a CRX? My CRX Si, with A/C weighs under 2100 lbs. It's not a stoplight terror, you're right about that. It isn't supposed to be. Stock CRX 1/4 mile times are in the low to mid 16 range.
If you don't think a CRX Si can't show its taillights to a 914 on an autocross course, well that's your opinion & you're entitled to it. I've driven both, & I know the truth.
You also said "ricers are not fast". No kidding. That does not mean that all imports are slow, though. Also you said "you need a V8, baaad". Maybe he has a V8 as well. You're allowed to own more than one car.
We now return you to your 'Ford vs. Chevy' debate. Thanks for listening.

Ya, my vote would be for the 914 over the crx. But on to the real issue, the comment of "you need a V8, baaad", the guy has stated previously that he has a v6 mustang and a crx Sh1tty inside (si), if he had another car, he would have mentioned it.

Token Right Guy 05-13-2001 10:44 AM

Okay, Dinomite, I missed the part where he listed his cars. ..."CRX Sh1tty Inside (Si)"...aren't you clever? I don't know why you feel the need to denigrate another person's choice of car, but I don't care either. Odd how you glaze right over the part where you say a Mustang II is lighter than a Honda, & go straight to name-calling.

There's a lot of really cool people in this forum- some drive Fords, some drive Chevrolets, some drive imports. Have a nice day.
(edit):Looking back over the comments, I see you didn't say the Mustang II weight comment, UNIT5302 did. I stand by the rest of my post.

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LT1 Z28 05-13-2001 11:29 AM

This tread sucks.

Blk89GT 05-16-2001 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by Mach 1:

We all like Fords better, for whatever our reasons are, it doesnt matter, does it? Its a passion, and this argument could go on forever, so sometimes its pointless to start something like this.

This is the one thought out of everything written in this thread that i whole-heartedly agree with. Nothing annoys me more than people who come into a forum, any forum, and tell the people there what they should like or tell them that the cars they are interested in suck. Honestly, i don't like the Mustang guys who go to Chevy forums and start arguments either. I have friends who own and race Camaros and of course i have friends who own and race Stangs. We joke around with one another about which is better, and if the above posts were just joking between friends and competitors that would be cool. But instead this is just an argument where both sides like a certain car and they think if they say "mines better than yours" enough times; they will convince their opposition to agree with them. Sorry this post is so long. But i read post after post of childish name calling in this online pi$$ing contest, and i just wanted to give my response. Now please don't let this post stop you guys from flaming one another and probably me now as well. You certainly seem to enjoy it. By the way, i apologize to the few guys from both camps who have been genuinely respectful to everyone in this thread. This rant is not aimed at you.

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2FastLX 05-16-2001 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by Steve2000SS:
an LS1 in no more a "slomaro" than a 4.6 mustang is a "rustang".. name calling is for little kids.. You have a "too many mods to list" and you manage a 13.7 1/4 mile?.. So if my low 13 sec Camaro is slow then what are you?

Slomaro is what I've been calling them ever since I owned one. Nothing really sincere about the name, and even if my car ran 16's I'd still call them that. I have friends with Slomaro's, and they don't get offended by it so why are you?

And the reason my car only ran a 13.730 is because my traction lock and clutch was worn out and the car spun badly off the line. Look at the MPH. There was more time to be taken off with more tuning and different shift points even with the traction problem but the tranny let go before I could try any more runs. 125,000 miles of abuse finally showed it's ugly face. That was over a month ago when that run was made and there have been a few more mods and lightening since then. My car is easily a 12 second car now so you are still slow.

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jimberg 05-16-2001 02:24 AM

To me, Slomaros and Slostangs are Camaros and Mustangs that don't have dual exhaust (older models are the exception). They're the muscle car fakes. If it doesn't have a V8 in it, I don't consider it a Mustang or Camaro. What I really don't like is the current trend to blur the distinguishing features between the slow versions and the real versions. It's really hard to see a difference between a GT and a V6 Mustang from a distance now. Maybe I haven't paid enough attention, though, since I'm more into fox body Mustangs.

There...Now there's some fighten words. http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard/biggrin.gif

Oh, and the way the old farts who buy Corvettes drive them, they may as well come out with a $20k version with a 4 banger in it so they don't waste all of those V8s. Maybe that would bring down the cost of the V8 Vettes.


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