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HotRoddin 12-22-2002 02:44 AM

Tough call ... to soft and he'll go right back out and do it again. To harsh and you'll turn him into a rebel and he'll be on a first name basis with every cop and judge within 50 miles of you.
Like many have said here, he has to know about consequences, but if you're going to be realistic, he has to know the world and its rules are made of compromise also.
I like the idea of turning it into a strip only car. You get to keep that closeness you have with him, and keep something in common between you, and keep an eye on whats going on in his life too, and at 16 thats of prime importance because this isn't the only mistake hes gonna make!

To all the people that think they have it all covered racing down a residential street ... a freekin goose !! did anybody think of that one ahead of time ?? and it could have just as easily been a child !
I'm a little troubled by the attitude of some i'm picking up that makes it sound like it would have been ok to do what he was doing if only he'd been a bit more experienced with a high performance car ? This goose thing should bring home the fact that there are unforseen things that can happen at speed that could cause even Dale Earnhart to run into a wall, if you catch my drift (pun intended). As far as him being in a lower performance car making a difference ... thats what was racing against him right ??
Keep a close eye on him ... what he does after this scare and all this hassle is extremely important. Did he learn from it or is he just brushing it off ? If you catch wind of him getting involved in that behavior again ... then you have every reason and even a responsibility to pull out all the stops and lower the boom on him hard !

sn95gt19 12-23-2002 12:17 PM

im not a father, i am actually only 21 but i was in the same boat as him, i lost my license from 17-20 i acquired over 30 tickets between the age of 16-17 i bought my first car 67 fastback w/306 went 13.0's(at the time that was REALLY fast) and all hell broke loose, my dad didnt give a shiI what i did, as long as he didnt have to spend any money to get me out of trouble, i have been street racing since the age of 16, there are two drag strips-us41 and one in wisconsin that me and my friends frequent now they have "street car chaos" and "real street drags" they keep the track open until 3:00am and after 12:00 its legal street racing at the track, you can spot people out, go off a flag or light, its really a great program that has worked in my case, i no longer race on the street. (i do go to watch sometimes though) im probably not making sense here!
basically i would take the plates off the car, and build a strictly strip car, i would not let him drive it on the street until you think that he is mature enough to obey the rules, i wouldnt sell the car, than your punishing yourself for something that he did.
also i was charged for wreckless driving in illinois, speeding 60, passing on a median, in a construction zone, with 3 people in the bed of my 95 lightning, i got 20 hours community service for that and it didnt go on my record. if he has no previous record and you go to court with him, i think he should be ok and not lose his license
hopefully he is nothing like me and he will learn his lesson from this, it took me 30 tickets, thousands of dollars, and three years without a license to learn my lesson. but i guess all that matters is that i did learn my lesson.
hopefully this will be the only idiotic thing that he will do, and maybe its a good thing that he got caught so early in the game, before he actually had time to create a lifestyle for himself.

Dark_5.0 12-23-2002 01:25 PM

If he gets the 5.0 back he will race again, It used to be only muscle cars street raced.

Now civics,neons, trucks etc... are all out there street racing.

My point being if you like to race it really doesnt matter what you drive you will find something on your level to race.

The 5.0 isnt the problem he is, maybe you should focus on him more than the car.

JMO,

302 LX Eric 12-23-2002 05:15 PM

who keeps digging up these old threads??? hehehe :D it's like a time machine or something...

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The Deuce 12-23-2002 06:49 PM

That's what I'm talking about E.

Funny how it was a couple of young one's trying to get the kid an easier punishment. If it was a 6 month thing, he's done already.

sn95gt19 12-23-2002 08:52 PM

dam i didnt even look at the date, im sure its done and over with now.

nevermind, my bad:confused:

MEDIK418 12-24-2002 03:13 AM

Been there, done that. I feel for you. My opinion (comes from raising two boys, both with 2 Mustangs each and so far only a fender bender in the snow) No matter what the outcome of the wreck or the ticket, you need to be consistant and stand by what you two agreed on.

Now. . .don't misunderstand me, my youngest would give the pope an ulcer and knows the defensive driving instructor in our county by name. ( did you know a 2001 Saturn will go 97 mph???)Our biggest agreement still stands, you get a ticket on your record and I drop the insurance. He can still drive, but he also gets to eat the rediculous insurance bill too. His choice. Yes he's had tickets and he's lost the keys to his car before and it hurts to do it but I figured if I gave in what would we agree to give up next?

Kids are going to make mistakes and I'm sure he's no more a monster than any other 16 year old in the world. I can only hope. . .that mine know there are consequences to actions like these and they have to own up to them and it sounds like your son is on the right track.

Stay on him is all I can say. I've had the misfortune of having to attend to 5 teenagers in our town who managed to kill themselves in car wrecks. Some from speeding, others from alcohol. All of them I knew very well. I've always prayed that I would never have to respond to one of my own kids and find him dead.

I've devoted my life to my boys and theres' no way to describe the enjoyment of building these cars over the years with them but sometimes I had to put being a Dad way out in front of being their freind.

Hope everything turns out well with da Judge and you sound like you got a plan for the rest. Good luck.

Onerare91LX 12-24-2002 10:58 PM

Yous son was dumb for street racing! He must not have much common sense to say " we could probaby race at the track on a saturday or sunday" I'm 16 and have enough common sense to say bite me to the dumb@ss who wants to race or say I'll see you at the dragstrip sunday. Street racing is stupid and he should get his license taken away!

Mustang_289 12-25-2002 06:37 AM

Well guys/gals - let me give you an update. The racing incident got dropped, the policeman was a good guy and didn't write my son up for racing but wreckless driving. In our state there's a first time offense policy for under 18 drivers. If you go to driving school the incident will be dropped from your driving record. So he was lucky on this one.

There was another incident that caused him to lose his license for 6-months. My son's best friend graduated high school and several of them decided to toast his grad with a beer. There were about 6-8 of my son's friends and they all had a single beer to toast with. Another couple of friends showed up and they moved outside to talk. Well - two policeman were walking the streets and caught my son with a beer in his hand and wrote him up for underage drinking. Man - the courts threw the book at him, lost his license for 6 months, 24 hours of community service, 20 AA meetings.. All these teenagers are great kids - as they've hung out at our house many nights watching movies videos, playing x-box.

This young man has learned a lot from this experience and hopefully he and his friends clearly understand a 20-second brain fart can impact your life for a long time.

One week before he lost his license I took him to a track for his first offical 1/4 mile race. This was awesome guys - watching your son crank down the track with a car that we've put some hard work into! He's now really got the 1/4 mile bug - and really wants to take his car to the next level for the track. Game plan is for the stang to be a weekend warrior and maybe cruise around town etc.

We're taking the time and working on the car over the winter while he's lost his license. As a matter of fact - he's getting new gears for Christmas.

NJTMustangGT 12-25-2002 03:01 PM

Some advice from someone your son's age
 
Well, my parents weren't as laid back as you are when I got my liscense. Since I was 14 I wanted a Camaro or Mustang. I begged and begged but my parents wouldnt let me get anything past 150hp for my first car. I'm now past 17, Ive had my liscense for a year and a half now, and my parents finally are allowing me to get my Mustang GT in the Spring (3 months from now). Your son did make a mistake, all kids his age would. It takes alot more willpower to say no then most people think, I know I woulda done the same thing yuor son did a year ago. My suggestion, take it away for awhile, let him work on it, and give him the disappointment of not having his mustang and have him tell his friends why. Maybe a few months from now when he learns, sell it back to him at a low price ;). Maybe a good birthday gift if you ask me.

Mustang_289 12-26-2002 08:13 AM

I wouldn't say we're laid back, my view was and still is to this day - if a teenager decides to break the law he can do it just as easily with a 100hp ricer. My wife agreed to the Mustang - but she said the car cannot run and my son and I would have to put lots of work into it to get it to run. This way our son would be less likely to do something stupid.

We also understand that we all make mistakes - even us adults.. What's important that we've stressed to our son is you made a mistake - what did you learn from it.. Hopefully from now on - seeing what can happen to him with lose of license, all that community service etc - it will be much easier to say no.

Good luck with getting your GT in 3 months!

tireburner163 12-26-2002 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Onerare91LX
Yous son was dumb for street racing! He must not have much common sense to say " we could probaby race at the track on a saturday or sunday" I'm 16 and have enough common sense to say bite me to the dumb@ss who wants to race or say I'll see you at the dragstrip sunday. Street racing is stupid and he should get his license taken away!
Don't fall off that high horse......it's a long way down.

MEDIK418 12-27-2002 12:49 AM

What he said!


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