DYNO RESULTS !!!! :)

Skyman · 03-12-2001, 06:00 PM

Well I took my car into be dynoed today and I am very please with the results. It was on a Mustang dyno, so I dont know how exactly that plays into things.

I ran the car on 87 OCTANE just like I do on the street. Also I have RAM AIR which isn't working on a dyno.

First run, hot off the free way was 292.6@5500 RWHP !! And 323.1@3750 RWTQ! He said my car was running rich and we went down to less fuel pressure. We only adjusted the timing from 15 to 16, and he said 16 is perfect fo this car and we never went any higher.

All said and done came out with 332.1 RWHP! @5500rpm And 351 RWTQ @3750 RPM! The guy was pretty impressed for a low compression motor with Performer intake and E-303 cam. With a better cam and higher revving intake Im sure I could get more power cuz it peaked at only 5500!

He said figure 18-20% loss for the manual trans so taking the low side of that. 18% thats 405 horsepower at the crank! and 428 ft/lb of torque ! The torque curve is pretty flat. With 275 lb of torque at 1900 rpm and holding above 300 from 2700 to 5250.

I'm really exciting, and I can't believe how much power this made!!

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406-TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and more. Added Eibach drag launch springs and 70/30's w/ 50/50's.
0-110MPH In car view (963k)
All Throttle through 3 gears! (497k)
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/lskymanl/burnout.mpg" TARGET=_b

lx mike · 03-12-2001, 06:10 PM

Now get that thing to a track and give us a 12 second run! 332rwhp thats great!!
you have a good combo that work great together.

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93-LX: 5 Speed, Flow's with H-Pipe, 3.73's Sub's and K&N.

toms89 · 03-12-2001, 07:57 PM

Awesome ! Now you just need to get that hp to the ground and your looking at low 12's with 110+ mph trap speeds!!

EZRIDN · 03-12-2001, 08:12 PM

Way to go Skyman!!! Nice numbers...

So is your car all dailed in now? How does it feel now that it has been straightened out?

How has the suspension affected launching

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'86 GT.
Gears & Flows

ed1371 · 03-12-2001, 08:36 PM

WOW! Great numbers Sky (Uh-Oh *bead of sweat appears*) Thats really impressive how just a little tuning can improve (gulp) your numbers so much!
Cant wait for the 24th! (*wipes bead off* ...better make sure my bottle is full+warm before racing him!)

fastang · 03-12-2001, 08:41 PM

Sweet #'s Sky, Now all you have to do is make it HOOK!

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95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

bigwhitecobra · 03-12-2001, 09:37 PM

SWEET!!!! Get some slicks, and meet me at a track!!! That's nice to hear, 332 at the wheels. Very nice!! Congrats on a good set-up.

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The Black Mamba 11.2@124
94 Cobra- MAC cold air fender kit, Motorsport underdrive pulley's, MAC 21/2" off-road H pipe, SVO mufflers, 3.73 gears, E-303 cam, 13.417@101.335mph

Skyman · 03-12-2001, 11:45 PM

Thanks guys. I gotta order a pair of slicks and rims that will fit. I sold my ET streets as they dont fit right. So hopefully we will see 110+ !!

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, 2 1/4" exhaust, and 4.10's.
332RWHP@5500
351RWTQ@3750
Runs on 87 Octane!

Rebel79 · 03-13-2001, 11:16 AM

Man I bet you are glad you never came up to race me!

Cause I still had more hp with my old setup!

Glad you finally got it tuned,, so you can put an end to the problems you have been having. Hopefully my dyno run this Saturday will have the same effect. That is, if the car is runnign well enough to go on the dyno.

WTG!

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1994 Mustang Cobra
308ci, Vortech S-trim 11#, ported GT-40 heads, E-303 cam, FMS 1 5/8 headers, BBK Offroad H-pipe, 2-chamber flows, and several other goodies.
Rebel Racing. Home of Bay Area Mustangs

SkarodoM · 03-13-2001, 11:35 AM

badaaaaaaasss

lol isnt that about 50rwhp MORE than you were expecting? hehe.. always better to play down the ride and let the numbers do the talking ; ]

thats sweet, *sigh* i think imma have to buy a 'stang b/c i dunno how daily driveable the 'maro is gonna be when im done =P

Killer numbers tho!

Phil
Jerico Performance

Red514LX · 03-13-2001, 11:43 AM

I don't know what to say about these numbers?!?!

First, 330+RWHP on a mustang dyno with your relatively mild combo is almost unbelievable?!?! BTW, a mustang dyno takes into account real world driving conditions such as wind drag, type of road, tire resistance, etc. So, your numbers would actually be HIGHER on a "non-mustang" dyno.

Second, you picked up 30RWHP with a dyno tune?!?! I have always believed that a dyno tune was the perfect finishing touch to getting the most out of a combo. I guess this helps prove that.

I'm anxious to hear about your new 1/4 mile times. I would almost expect a 110mph trap speed (or very, very close to it) with your nubmers.

Way to go!

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Jeff Kane
1990 LX Mustang ex-5.0 Coupe
No engine. No transmission.
Prepping car for a "big" big-block.
http://hometown.aol.com/red514lx/

Skyman · 03-13-2001, 02:30 PM

Well guys thanks a ton. I am shocked as anyone else. Everyone on corral is telling me I'm a BSer and that these numbers are impossible. I think I'm going to have to scan the dyno sheets to prove it to these guys. They a much more hostile crowd than here.

I should see 110+ at the track.

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, 2 1/4" exhaust, and 4.10's.
332RWHP@5500
351RWTQ@3750
Runs on 87 Octane!

Red514LX · 03-13-2001, 04:41 PM

I saw your post on corral.net and I too noticed all of the hostility towards your hp claims. To be quite honest, the numbers (especially the post-tuneup 320+RWHP on a mustang dyno) seems high. I can buy the 290RWHP, though.

Despite this, however, I think everyone should keep their mouths shut and wait till you get some good mph numbers in the 1/4 mile. Only then I feel is it truly fair to critique the dyno numbers.

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Jeff Kane
1990 LX Mustang ex-5.0 Coupe
No engine. No transmission.
Prepping car for a "big" big-block.
http://hometown.aol.com/red514lx/

Skyman · 03-13-2001, 05:00 PM

I agree but those guys are just plain jerks it seems like. I am being as nice as possible about it all but they jsut wont buy it. DO you guys think the dyno could be off? I'm starting to wonder now. Well we'll find out on the 24th at the track.
http://www.corral.net/Forums/Forum1/HTML/061545.html

Skyler

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-1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, 2 1/4" exhaust, and 4.10's.
332RWHP@5500
351RWTQ@3750
Runs on 87 Octane!

EZRIDN · 03-13-2001, 08:14 PM

Man those guys are brutial.....

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'86 GT.
Gears & Flows

lx mike · 03-13-2001, 08:36 PM

Typical reaction for that group over there. they just don't want to beleive that someone can put together a great running engine without a stroker or running a custom cam , Those are good number sky, don't let them get you down and start doubting them at all.

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93-LX: 5 Speed, Flow's with H-Pipe, 3.73's Sub's and K&N.

EZRIDN · 03-13-2001, 09:52 PM

i know what the problem is skyman.......you can't read very well, and the numbers actually read 232 RWHP, and 251 RWTQ....

No need to thank me for helping you out man!

Have a good one.

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'86 GT.
Gears & Flows

SkarodoM · 03-13-2001, 10:11 PM

Children... children.. calm down now.

Those corral bastages... theyre jackals arent they. Jeez and i thought us f-body guys ate our young... Ignore em sky, see what the car runs, enjoy it, and to hell with those ppl. If the dyno was off... well its not like it was your fault. Post times tho.. im kinna curious if it'll run 110+

Phil
Jerico Performance

Rebel79 · 03-14-2001, 01:44 AM

Well I don't really agree that his dyno numbers seem high. I new from the start that he had at least 314rwhp...or was capable of it. You have to understand that his motor is extremely unusual... it would take 22° timing and NOT ping... any other motor would detonate like an Atom bomb.

My buddy will receive more HP than that out of his 302 with slightly ported AFR 165 heads, custom cam (.560 intake lift .565 exhaust lift), Weiland Stealth intake, and a 750 carb. He should easily make 350rwhp with just a N/A 302. Thats about 50hp less than my blown 302!

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1994 Mustang Cobra
308ci, Vortech S-trim 11#, ported GT-40 heads, E-303 cam, FMS 1 5/8 headers, BBK Offroad H-pipe, 2-chamber flows, and several other goodies.
Rebel Racing. Home of Bay Area Mustangs

smooth · 03-14-2001, 02:49 AM

wow i really don't know what to say.

351 RWTQ @3750 RPM! is like.. the highest tq figure i have ever seen for a motor like this. seems almost unbelievable to me. but i am obviously not calling you a liar.

look at exgmguys car. he is running ported heads, same cam as you i think, not sure what else. he makes 270rwhp tuned with similar compression. granted he probably makes closer to 300 now, where is the 30hp coming from?

btw if you put your motor on an engine dyno i would not expect it to dyno any higher than 375-385hp. (of course you could do engine dyno tricks and probably pick it up) the drivetrain loss cannot be reliably predicted using a percentage. given the same rpm window it is a fixed number.

i've seen some built 302s dynoed, and these cars were putting up 340-350rwhp on a dynojet and less torque than that with much higher compression (one with pistons and rods, worked trickflows and close to 11:1 makes over 350rwhp now but i haven't seen it in person.)

if you took some good ported trick flows or some 165cc afrs with a little work w/ 10.5:1 and a larger cam i would expect 330ish rwhp with a 5spd stock rear and reasonable gears. and this motor would definitely make more rwhp than tq, peaking higher.

definitely makes me curious. if this dyno is telling the truth i think your dream will finally come true after what, atleast a year? 110mph trap speeds, lol

03-12-2001, 06:00 PM	#1
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	DYNO RESULTS !!!! :) Well I took my car into be dynoed today and I am very please with the results. It was on a Mustang dyno, so I dont know how exactly that plays into things. I ran the car on 87 OCTANE just like I do on the street. Also I have RAM AIR which isn't working on a dyno. First run, hot off the free way was 292.6@5500 RWHP !! And 323.1@3750 RWTQ! He said my car was running rich and we went down to less fuel pressure. We only adjusted the timing from 15 to 16, and he said 16 is perfect fo this car and we never went any higher. All said and done came out with 332.1 RWHP! @5500rpm And 351 RWTQ @3750 RPM! The guy was pretty impressed for a low compression motor with Performer intake and E-303 cam. With a better cam and higher revving intake Im sure I could get more power cuz it peaked at only 5500! He said figure 18-20% loss for the manual trans so taking the low side of that. 18% thats 405 horsepower at the crank! and 428 ft/lb of torque ! The torque curve is pretty flat. With 275 lb of torque at 1900 rpm and holding above 300 from 2700 to 5250. I'm really exciting, and I can't believe how much power this made!! Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406-TFS Heads, E-303 Cam, Edelbrock Intake, and more. Added Eibach drag launch springs and 70/30's w/ 50/50's. 0-110MPH In car view (963k) All Throttle through 3 gears! (497k) <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/lskymanl/burnout.mpg" TARGET=_b

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lx mike Undescribable Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Ft Myers Fla Posts: 1,539	Now get that thing to a track and give us a 12 second run! 332rwhp thats great!! you have a good combo that work great together. ------------------ 93-LX: 5 Speed, Flow's with H-Pipe, 3.73's Sub's and K&N.

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toms89 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Eldersburg, MD Posts: 182	Awesome ! Now you just need to get that hp to the ground and your looking at low 12's with 110+ mph trap speeds!!

03-12-2001, 08:12 PM	#4
EZRIDN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 504	Way to go Skyman!!! Nice numbers... So is your car all dailed in now? How does it feel now that it has been straightened out? How has the suspension affected launching ------------------ '86 GT. Gears & Flows

03-12-2001, 08:36 PM	#5
ed1371 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 469	WOW! Great numbers Sky (Uh-Oh bead of sweat appears) Thats really impressive how just a little tuning can improve (gulp) your numbers so much! Cant wait for the 24th! (wipes bead off ...better make sure my bottle is full+warm before racing him!)

03-12-2001, 08:41 PM	#6
fastang Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: santa ana ca Posts: 1,349	Sweet #'s Sky, Now all you have to do is make it HOOK! ------------------ 95GT B303 cam, 1.7 rockers, 65mm TB, 73mm MAF, milled heads, 355's K&N, off road pipes, pulleys, msd coil, 9mm wires, Tremec 3550, Pro5.0 shifter,10.5 Motorsport clutch, FMS aluminum driveshaft, weld in subframe connectors

03-12-2001, 09:37 PM	#7
bigwhitecobra Huh? Whatcha said? Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 1,073	SWEET!!!! Get some slicks, and meet me at a track!!! That's nice to hear, 332 at the wheels. Very nice!! Congrats on a good set-up. ------------------ The Black Mamba 11.2@124 94 Cobra- MAC cold air fender kit, Motorsport underdrive pulley's, MAC 21/2" off-road H pipe, SVO mufflers, 3.73 gears, E-303 cam, 13.417@101.335mph

03-12-2001, 11:45 PM	#8
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Thanks guys. I gotta order a pair of slicks and rims that will fit. I sold my ET streets as they dont fit right. So hopefully we will see 110+ !! Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, 2 1/4" exhaust, and 4.10's. 332RWHP@5500 351RWTQ@3750 Runs on 87 Octane!

03-13-2001, 11:16 AM	#9
Rebel79 News Editor Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 2,101	Man I bet you are glad you never came up to race me! Cause I still had more hp with my old setup! Glad you finally got it tuned,, so you can put an end to the problems you have been having. Hopefully my dyno run this Saturday will have the same effect. That is, if the car is runnign well enough to go on the dyno. WTG! ------------------ 1994 Mustang Cobra 308ci, Vortech S-trim 11#, ported GT-40 heads, E-303 cam, FMS 1 5/8 headers, BBK Offroad H-pipe, 2-chamber flows, and several other goodies. Rebel Racing. Home of Bay Area Mustangs

03-13-2001, 11:35 AM	#10
SkarodoM Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 199	badaaaaaaasss lol isnt that about 50rwhp MORE than you were expecting? hehe.. always better to play down the ride and let the numbers do the talking ; ] thats sweet, sigh i think imma have to buy a 'stang b/c i dunno how daily driveable the 'maro is gonna be when im done =P Killer numbers tho! Phil Jerico Performance

03-13-2001, 11:43 AM	#11
Red514LX Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 119	I don't know what to say about these numbers?!?! First, 330+RWHP on a mustang dyno with your relatively mild combo is almost unbelievable?!?! BTW, a mustang dyno takes into account real world driving conditions such as wind drag, type of road, tire resistance, etc. So, your numbers would actually be HIGHER on a "non-mustang" dyno. Second, you picked up 30RWHP with a dyno tune?!?! I have always believed that a dyno tune was the perfect finishing touch to getting the most out of a combo. I guess this helps prove that. I'm anxious to hear about your new 1/4 mile times. I would almost expect a 110mph trap speed (or very, very close to it) with your nubmers. Way to go! ------------------ Jeff Kane 1990 LX Mustang ex-5.0 Coupe No engine. No transmission. Prepping car for a "big" big-block. http://hometown.aol.com/red514lx/

03-13-2001, 02:30 PM	#12
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	Well guys thanks a ton. I am shocked as anyone else. Everyone on corral is telling me I'm a BSer and that these numbers are impossible. I think I'm going to have to scan the dyno sheets to prove it to these guys. They a much more hostile crowd than here. I should see 110+ at the track. Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, 2 1/4" exhaust, and 4.10's. 332RWHP@5500 351RWTQ@3750 Runs on 87 Octane!

03-13-2001, 04:41 PM	#13
Red514LX Registered Member Join Date: Mar 1999 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 119	I saw your post on corral.net and I too noticed all of the hostility towards your hp claims. To be quite honest, the numbers (especially the post-tuneup 320+RWHP on a mustang dyno) seems high. I can buy the 290RWHP, though. Despite this, however, I think everyone should keep their mouths shut and wait till you get some good mph numbers in the 1/4 mile. Only then I feel is it truly fair to critique the dyno numbers. ------------------ Jeff Kane 1990 LX Mustang ex-5.0 Coupe No engine. No transmission. Prepping car for a "big" big-block. http://hometown.aol.com/red514lx/

03-13-2001, 05:00 PM	#14
Skyman I need 110mph Trap Speed! Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: So, CA Posts: 4,315	I agree but those guys are just plain jerks it seems like. I am being as nice as possible about it all but they jsut wont buy it. DO you guys think the dyno could be off? I'm starting to wonder now. Well we'll find out on the 24th at the track. http://www.corral.net/Forums/Forum1/HTML/061545.html Skyler ------------------ -1989 Saleen Mustang #406- TFS Heads, E-303, edelbrock intake,70MM TB, 73mm MAF, off road H, 2 1/4" exhaust, and 4.10's. 332RWHP@5500 351RWTQ@3750 Runs on 87 Octane!

03-13-2001, 08:14 PM	#15
EZRIDN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 504	Man those guys are brutial..... ------------------ '86 GT. Gears & Flows

03-13-2001, 08:36 PM	#16
lx mike Undescribable Join Date: Sep 1998 Location: Ft Myers Fla Posts: 1,539	Typical reaction for that group over there. they just don't want to beleive that someone can put together a great running engine without a stroker or running a custom cam , Those are good number sky, don't let them get you down and start doubting them at all. ------------------ 93-LX: 5 Speed, Flow's with H-Pipe, 3.73's Sub's and K&N.

03-13-2001, 09:52 PM	#17
EZRIDN Registered Member Join Date: Jan 1999 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 504	i know what the problem is skyman.......you can't read very well, and the numbers actually read 232 RWHP, and 251 RWTQ.... No need to thank me for helping you out man! Have a good one. ------------------ '86 GT. Gears & Flows

03-13-2001, 10:11 PM	#18
SkarodoM Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 199	Children... children.. calm down now. Those corral bastages... theyre jackals arent they. Jeez and i thought us f-body guys ate our young... Ignore em sky, see what the car runs, enjoy it, and to hell with those ppl. If the dyno was off... well its not like it was your fault. Post times tho.. im kinna curious if it'll run 110+ Phil Jerico Performance

03-14-2001, 01:44 AM	#19
Rebel79 News Editor Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 2,101	Well I don't really agree that his dyno numbers seem high. I new from the start that he had at least 314rwhp...or was capable of it. You have to understand that his motor is extremely unusual... it would take 22° timing and NOT ping... any other motor would detonate like an Atom bomb. My buddy will receive more HP than that out of his 302 with slightly ported AFR 165 heads, custom cam (.560 intake lift .565 exhaust lift), Weiland Stealth intake, and a 750 carb. He should easily make 350rwhp with just a N/A 302. Thats about 50hp less than my blown 302! ------------------ 1994 Mustang Cobra 308ci, Vortech S-trim 11#, ported GT-40 heads, E-303 cam, FMS 1 5/8 headers, BBK Offroad H-pipe, 2-chamber flows, and several other goodies. Rebel Racing. Home of Bay Area Mustangs

03-14-2001, 02:49 AM	#20
smooth Registered Member Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: illinois, USA Posts: 649	wow i really don't know what to say. 351 RWTQ @3750 RPM! is like.. the highest tq figure i have ever seen for a motor like this. seems almost unbelievable to me. but i am obviously not calling you a liar. look at exgmguys car. he is running ported heads, same cam as you i think, not sure what else. he makes 270rwhp tuned with similar compression. granted he probably makes closer to 300 now, where is the 30hp coming from? btw if you put your motor on an engine dyno i would not expect it to dyno any higher than 375-385hp. (of course you could do engine dyno tricks and probably pick it up) the drivetrain loss cannot be reliably predicted using a percentage. given the same rpm window it is a fixed number. i've seen some built 302s dynoed, and these cars were putting up 340-350rwhp on a dynojet and less torque than that with much higher compression (one with pistons and rods, worked trickflows and close to 11:1 makes over 350rwhp now but i haven't seen it in person.) if you took some good ported trick flows or some 165cc afrs with a little work w/ 10.5:1 and a larger cam i would expect 330ish rwhp with a 5spd stock rear and reasonable gears. and this motor would definitely make more rwhp than tq, peaking higher. definitely makes me curious. if this dyno is telling the truth i think your dream will finally come true after what, atleast a year? 110mph trap speeds, lol